[Texascavers] When flags are flying...

[Thomas Sitch]

Interesting, I’m seeing and hearing two different things.
 
When it comes to the narco-traffickers and the violence I hear some folks 
saying something to the effect of “crime happens to other people,” “I went to 
Mexico and nothing bad happened, therefore there are no problems,” etc.
 
I consistently hear from my Mexican friends such as Nico and Maria (and Nico 
can correct me if I’ve got it wrong) that you have to respect and stay the hell 
out of the way of the narco-traffickers.
 
My grandfather likes the nautical term, “when there are flags flying, pay 
attention to the wind.”  There is clear and obvious danger.  No, we shouldn’t 
change our plans to go to Mexico; we cavers know the back roads, have many 
friends south of the boarder, and are generally wise and savvy travelers.  But 
beware of the “it happens to other people” attitude.
 
The murders and kidnappings have gotten bad enough that the highest levels of 
the Mexican government have been forced to pay attention (even in Cancun, I 
hear).  Crackdowns are probably a good thing in the long run, but it probably 
means more bullets flying in the short term.
 
~~Thomas

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Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Traval Advisory for Mexico 3
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Date: Tuesday, March 24, 2009, 1:24 PM


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I agree with your statement, Gill.  But, I do have to say that my uncle has 
lived in Harlingen for the last 30 years and he is now talking of moving to San 
Antonio because of all the trouble down there.  They have had some drug war 
shootings down there as well.  He is worried and he never worries.  

Sheryl



Gill said:

I'd say avoid giving credibility to any information you receive 
through the popular media. They create misinformation both 
intentionally and unintentionally--but it's still misinformation. 
Fear-mongering sells news and incites emotions.

--Ediger 






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Re: [Texascavers] When flags are flying...

[Nico Escamilla]

Thomas

You indeed got it a bit wrong, Ive always said that as long as you dont mess
with the bad guys they will pretty much leave you alone at least thats how
it works in places like this
it might work a different way in border towns I'm not sure.. Getting
kidnapped its a whole different animal, usually they kidnap people who they
already know have the means to pay ransom and they usually study your all
your movements before they make a move on you.
As for getting caught in the middle of a gun fight well that'd be plain bad
luck, the odds are pretty slim though something along the lines of getting
struck by lightning, same thing goes to getting robbed on the streets.

Of course there is problems but one must learn how to avoid them.

Happy Mexico traveling everyone
Nico

On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Thomas Sitch dreadfl...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Interesting, I’m seeing and hearing two different things.



 When it comes to the narco-traffickers and the violence I hear some folks
 saying something to the effect of “crime happens to other people,” “I went
 to Mexico and nothing bad happened, therefore there are no problems,” etc.



 I consistently hear from my Mexican friends such as Nico and Maria (and
 Nico can correct me if I’ve got it wrong) that you have to respect and stay
 the hell out of the way of the narco-traffickers.