RE: [Texascavers] aquifer question

2009-11-20 Thread Geary Schindel
If you're getting stinky water, sounds like there is something wrong with your 
treatment plant.  If it is a small plant that doesn't have a full time 
operator, there probably needs to maintenance or adjustments somewhere. Call up 
the regional office of the TCEQ and let them know.

Regarding the Edwards, some houses have on-site septic system and others are on 
sewer that run from higher elevations in the recharge zone to the lower 
elevations on the south side of town were the waste water treatment sites are 
located.

Geary

From: David [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 12:55 AM
To: Cavers Texas
Subject: [Texascavers] aquifer question

I live about 300 meters from sewage treatment plant that dumps the treated 
sewage directly into
a creek that flows 1 mile downstream to the Brazos River, and then 100 miles or 
so
later ends up in the Gulf.

What happens to all the treated sewage water in the Edwards Aquifer area ?


On a related note, but mainly for you birders:

If you look at the discharge into this creek, it stinks really bad
for over 100 meters.   The marshy creek at the discharge is full of cattail 
like vegetation growing in the water and lots of water birds.

I am not a birder ( yet ), but I think it is common to see the marsh
feeding birds at the discharge, like:  Great Blue Heron, Black-crowed Night 
Heron,
Reddish Egret, Roseate Spoonbill, Snowy Egret, Tri-colored Heron, White Ibis, 
etc.

There is also lots of nutria in a culvert downstream.  Other critters in the 
area are turtles.

But I haven't seen any fish.   The marshy creek is only a foot deep, so there 
is no where
for them to hide from the birds.( This creek may just be a man-made dredged
channel, or at least that is what it is now. )

What I am getting at here, is this discharge does not appear to be hurting the 
environment,
but I wouldn't want to go swimming in the Brazos River downstream of there.   
You wouldn't swim there anyways, as the gators would swallow you whole in one 
gulp.


Re: [Texascavers] aquifer question

2009-11-20 Thread Josh Rubinstein
And / or it is anaerobic digestion in a marsh. .  It is not unusual for
marshs to stink.  It could be that the plant is supplying nutrients that
contribute to the low dissolved oxygen

Josh

On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Geary Schindel 
gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org wrote:

  If you’re getting stinky water, sounds like there is something wrong with
 your treatment plant.  If it is a small plant that doesn’t have a full time
 operator, there probably needs to maintenance or adjustments somewhere. Call
 up the regional office of the TCEQ and let them know.



 Regarding the Edwards, some houses have on-site septic system and others
 are on sewer that run from higher elevations in the recharge zone to the
 lower elevations on the south side of town were the waste water treatment
 sites are located.



 Geary



 *From:* David [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, November 20, 2009 12:55 AM
 *To:* Cavers Texas
 *Subject:* [Texascavers] aquifer question



 I live about 300 meters from sewage treatment plant that dumps the treated
 sewage directly into

 a creek that flows 1 mile downstream to the Brazos River, and then 100
 miles or so

 later ends up in the Gulf.



 What happens to all the treated sewage water in the Edwards Aquifer area ?





 On a related note, but mainly for you birders:



 If you look at the discharge into this creek, it stinks really bad

 for over 100 meters.   The marshy creek at the discharge is full of cattail
 like vegetation growing in the water and lots of water birds.



 I am not a birder ( yet ), but I think it is common to see the marsh

 feeding birds at the discharge, like:  Great Blue Heron, Black-crowed Night
 Heron,

 Reddish Egret, Roseate Spoonbill, Snowy Egret, Tri-colored Heron, White
 Ibis, etc.



 There is also lots of nutria in a culvert downstream.  Other critters in
 the area are turtles.



 But I haven't seen any fish.   The marshy creek is only a foot deep, so
 there is no where

 for them to hide from the birds.( This creek may just be a man-made
 dredged

 channel, or at least that is what it is now. )



 What I am getting at here, is this discharge does not appear to be hurting
 the environment,

 but I wouldn't want to go swimming in the Brazos River downstream of there.
   You wouldn't swim there anyways, as the gators would swallow you whole in
 one gulp.



RE: [Texascavers] aquifer question

2009-11-20 Thread Louise Power

Hi David,

 

One thing to remember is that the marsh helps further filter the water before 
it flows on down to the Brazos and the Gulf. That's part of the importance of 
leaving marshes as is and not building condos on them--or just filling them in 
altogether. It also provides, as you've discovered, nutrients for snails, 
tadpoles, etc which provide food on down the chain. 

 

Here in Medford, we have big settling ponds which the birds just love to be 
around. That water eventually goes into the Rogue River. We have an irrigation 
ditch near our office which has bullfrog tadpoles, mosquito fish, etc. The 
great blue herons and the egrets love them as do the mallards. Since bullfrogs 
are an invasive species here, we love it when they get gobbled up.

 

Love your marshes,

 

Louise
 


From: dlocklea...@gmail.com
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:55:22 -0600
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] aquifer question

I live about 300 meters from sewage treatment plant that dumps the treated 
sewage directly into

a creek that flows 1 mile downstream to the Brazos River, and then 100 miles or 
so
later ends up in the Gulf.


What happens to all the treated sewage water in the Edwards Aquifer area ?




On a related note, but mainly for you birders:


If you look at the discharge into this creek, it stinks really bad
for over 100 meters.   The marshy creek at the discharge is full of cattail 
like vegetation growing in the water and lots of water birds.  


I am not a birder ( yet ), but I think it is common to see the marsh
feeding birds at the discharge, like:  Great Blue Heron, Black-crowed Night 
Heron,
Reddish Egret, Roseate Spoonbill, Snowy Egret, Tri-colored Heron, White Ibis, 
etc.


There is also lots of nutria in a culvert downstream.  Other critters in the 
area are turtles.   


But I haven't seen any fish.   The marshy creek is only a foot deep, so there 
is no where
for them to hide from the birds.( This creek may just be a man-made dredged
channel, or at least that is what it is now. )


What I am getting at here, is this discharge does not appear to be hurting the 
environment,
but I wouldn't want to go swimming in the Brazos River downstream of there.   
You wouldn't swim there anyways, as the gators would swallow you whole in one 
gulp. 

[Texascavers] aquifer question

2009-11-19 Thread David
I live about 300 meters from sewage treatment plant that dumps the treated
sewage directly into
a creek that flows 1 mile downstream to the Brazos River, and then 100 miles
or so
later ends up in the Gulf.

What happens to all the treated sewage water in the Edwards Aquifer area ?


On a related note, but mainly for you birders:

If you look at the discharge into this creek, it stinks really bad
for over 100 meters.   The marshy creek at the discharge is full of cattail
like vegetation growing in the water and lots of water birds.

I am not a birder ( yet ), but I think it is common to see the marsh
feeding birds at the discharge, like:  Great Blue Heron, Black-crowed Night
Heron,
Reddish Egret, Roseate Spoonbill, Snowy Egret, Tri-colored Heron, White
Ibis, etc.

There is also lots of nutria in a culvert downstream.  Other critters in the
area are turtles.

But I haven't seen any fish.   The marshy creek is only a foot deep, so
there is no where
for them to hide from the birds.( This creek may just be a man-made
dredged
channel, or at least that is what it is now. )

What I am getting at here, is this discharge does not appear to be hurting
the environment,
but I wouldn't want to go swimming in the Brazos River downstream of there.
  You wouldn't swim there anyways, as the gators would swallow you whole in
one gulp.