RE: [Texascavers] caving and insurance
You also hadn't heard of lawsuits by those trying to make a fast buck with the aid of an attorney with the same motive. Fritz -Original Message- From: wa5...@peoplepc.com [mailto:wa5...@peoplepc.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 6:10 PM To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] caving and insurance How would a student organization like the geology club be different from a student organization like the caving club? Does that mean that so long as it's not announced as a club trip then everyone would be considered to be an individual caver--not a club member? --Ediger Well ... at Sul Ross (early '70s) I belonged to a Geology Club sponsored by one geology professor and I belonged to the Cave club sponsored by another geology professor (our own DirtDoc) Somethings were the same (meetings) we... Something were different (trips) ... insurance then ... never heard of it Mike - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: RE: [Texascavers] caving and insurance
They were there.. the abogados hadn't got that diversified yet. TJan 26, 2010 11:24:00 AM, fh...@townandcountryins.com wrote: You also hadn't heard of lawsuits by those trying to make a fast buck with the aid of an attorney with the same motive. Fritz-Original Message-From: wa5...@peoplepc.com [mailto:wa5...@peoplepc.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 6:10 PMTo: Texascavers@texascavers.comSubject: Re: [Texascavers] caving and insurance How would a student organization like the geology club be different from a student organization like the caving club? Does that mean that so long as it's not announced as a club trip then everyone would be considered to be an individual caver--not a club member? --Ediger Well ... at Sul Ross (early '70s) I belonged to a Geology Club sponsored by one geology professor and I belonged to the Cave club sponsored by another geology professor (our own DirtDoc) Somethings were the same (meetings) we... Something were different (trips) ... insurance then ... never heard of itMike -Visit our website: http://texascavers.comTo unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.comFor additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com-Visit our website: http://texascavers.comTo unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.comFor additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
RE: RE: [Texascavers] caving and insurance
Lawyers may not have been allowed to advertise in the early 70's but they certainly do now. Fritz From: tbsam...@verizon.net [mailto:tbsam...@verizon.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 11:31 AM To: Fritz Holt Cc: wa5...@peoplepc.com; Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: RE: [Texascavers] caving and insurance They were there.. the abogados hadn't got that diversified yet. T Jan 26, 2010 11:24:00 AM, fh...@townandcountryins.com wrote: You also hadn't heard of lawsuits by those trying to make a fast buck with the aid of an attorney with the same motive. Fritz -Original Message- From: wa5...@peoplepc.com [mailto:wa5...@peoplepc.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 6:10 PM To: Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] caving and insurance How would a student organization like the geology club be different from a student organization like the caving club? Does that mean that so long as it's not announced as a club trip then everyone would be considered to be an individual caver--not a club member? --Ediger Well ... at Sul Ross (early '70s) I belonged to a Geology Club sponsored by one geology professor and I belonged to the Cave club sponsored by another geology professor (our own DirtDoc) Somethings were the same (meetings) we... Something were different (trips) ... insurance then ... never heard of it Mike - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] caving and insurance
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:30 AM, Ryan Monjaras muviduder...@hotmail.comwrote: thats only if its a student organization like the geology club, but if an individual student wants to go to CBSP then that persons regular insurance would cover it if that person got injured How would a student organization like the geology club be different from a student organization like the caving club? Does that mean that so long as it's not announced as a club trip then everyone would be considered to be an individual caver--not a club member? --Ediger
Re: [Texascavers] caving and insurance
I distinctly recall having ASS meetings where we talked about caves that individuals COULD go to if they had the correct permission. And then after the meeting, someone would let it slip that they had information where that was, and invite all their friends... Who of course happened to be at the meeting. I think we were vaguely aware of some sort of red tape we might encounter if we officially invited people representing ourselves as the organization and not as an individual. You can't assume people will take responsibility for their own actions- adult or not. Waivers were always signed, just in case. I only remember meeting the faculty advisor once, however, who evidently was the original advisor in 1977. He never came to a meeting, he'd just sign the club approval and sponsorship papers once a year- a practice I'm pretty sure that has been grandfathered in. -B On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Gill Edigar gi...@att.net wrote: On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:30 AM, Ryan Monjaras muviduder...@hotmail.com wrote: thats only if its a student organization like the geology club, but if an individual student wants to go to CBSP then that persons regular insurance would cover it if that person got injured How would a student organization like the geology club be different from a student organization like the caving club? Does that mean that so long as it's not announced as a club trip then everyone would be considered to be an individual caver--not a club member? --Ediger - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] caving and insurance
How would a student organization like the geology club be different from a student organization like the caving club? Does that mean that so long as it's not announced as a club trip then everyone would be considered to be an individual caver--not a club member? --Ediger Well ... at Sul Ross (early '70s) I belonged to a Geology Club sponsored by one geology professor and I belonged to the Cave club sponsored by another geology professor (our own DirtDoc) Somethings were the same (meetings) we... Something were different (trips) ... insurance then ... never heard of it Mike - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] caving and insurance
When I was in college ( mid 80's ), if we wanted to go on a caving trip, our biggest issue was where to find someone with a car. It seems now, all college kids have cars, but their big issue seems to be dealing with red tape. According to the web-site below, students who participate in dangerous activities like camping are required to purchase special event medical insurance. http://ss.utpb.edu/student-life/student-travel/ I doubt we ever tried to get the university to loan us a van. That idea either never crossed our minds, or we could not have imagined them loaning it to us. Years later, I saw the A.S.S. with a university van parked near the entrance of Palmito up above the town of Bustamante. David Locklear - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [Texascavers] caving and insurance
thats only if its a student organization like the geology club, but if an individual student wants to go to CBSP then that persons regular insurance would cover it if that person got injured Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 23:40:21 -0600 From: dlocklea...@gmail.com To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: [Texascavers] caving and insurance When I was in college ( mid 80's ), if we wanted to go on a caving trip, our biggest issue was where to find someone with a car. It seems now, all college kids have cars, but their big issue seems to be dealing with red tape. According to the web-site below, students who participate in dangerous activities like camping are required to purchase special event medical insurance. http://ss.utpb.edu/student-life/student-travel/ I doubt we ever tried to get the university to loan us a van. That idea either never crossed our minds, or we could not have imagined them loaning it to us. Years later, I saw the A.S.S. with a university van parked near the entrance of Palmito up above the town of Bustamante. David Locklear - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390710/direct/01/
