Re: [Texascavers] doing sinful things in caves
Stefan, I haven't either but was Married to two women who smoked but that was two wives ago. Thank God June doesn't. Fritz fritztcr@gmail. com Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 23, 2014, at 12:42 PM, Stefan Creaser via > Texascavers wrote: > > Bill, > > It's not that I think the smoke is going to kill me, I just think the smell > is deeply unpleasant. It also makes my clothes reek. I have never smoked a > cigarette in my life and so have never needed to get used to the smell... > > Cheers, > Stefan > > -Original Message- > From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of > Mixon Bill via Texascavers > > > When I started caving, nobody thought twice about smoking in a cave. > [] Apparently some people have come to think that the merest whiff of > cigarette smoke will kill them, []. The whole anti-smoking thing is silly. > > > -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are > confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended > recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the > contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the > information in any medium. Thank you. > > ARM Limited, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, > Registered in England & Wales, Company No: 2557590 > ARM Holdings plc, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, > Registered in England & Wales, Company No: 2548782 > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] doing sinful things in caves
Several years ago... There was a large group pushing and surveying parts of Longhorn Caverns, through the Crownover entrance. The treasure hunters who originally opened that entrance left a kerosene lamp in a large room past the log entrance crawl. Someone lit the lamp on the way in and someone else extinguished it. Thanks. This caused the long crawl to be flooded with dense smoke due to the strong air at the time. Poor Russ Johnson got gravel in the bib of his overalls and he got stuck at one point. I was seriously concerned that one of us would succumb to CO. Maybe we did? Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 23, 2014, at 2:57 PM, Heather Tucek via Texascavers > wrote: > > Some people actually have allergies to the smoke and/or asthma that can be > agitated by it. Not a good recipe to smoke in a cave when your caving buddy > could have serious health problems because of it. > > -Heather > > > > > >> On Dec 23, 2014, at 1:20 PM, Bill Bentley via Texascavers >> wrote: >> >> Mike Warton passed gas on some of the trips in "Wizard's Well Cave" back in >> the early 1980's... >> He had eaten boiled eggs and drank beer the night before... >> Corroded the terminals on my Wheat Lamp Battery... >> >> A what memories... >> -- >> Bill Bentley >> ca...@caver.net >> >> ___ >> Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com >> Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ >> http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] doing sinful things in caves
Worse than passing gas... Many moons ago when the earth was still cooling and access to caves like Whirlpool was had for nothing more than a secret handshake, (and I had bad, bad habits which I would never repeat these days) - Myself and a companion went as far up the extent of that cave we knew of to a 'dig' area with mounds of soft calcite sand where we took a break, drank a couple of celebratory beers and "partied" for a while in deep dark - "wow, man" - of the cave. As we exited, we noticed that we had proceeded beyond the large amount of smoke we had created back there - but if we stopped, it'd catch up with us again. Interesting phenomena. The cave was breathing outward and we had a "marker" in the air. As we got into the Travis County room - we encountered a group of FIRE DEPT and LAW DEPT officials on a rescue training mission! Not tarrying - we quickly exchanged small talk and fake names as we exited the cave in anticipation of the deadly smoke that was coming from behind us! ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] doing sinful things in caves
Some people actually have allergies to the smoke and/or asthma that can be agitated by it. Not a good recipe to smoke in a cave when your caving buddy could have serious health problems because of it. -Heather > On Dec 23, 2014, at 1:20 PM, Bill Bentley via Texascavers > wrote: > > Mike Warton passed gas on some of the trips in "Wizard's Well Cave" back in > the early 1980's... > He had eaten boiled eggs and drank beer the night before... > Corroded the terminals on my Wheat Lamp Battery... > > A what memories... > -- > Bill Bentley > ca...@caver.net > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] doing sinful things in caves
Sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll, but nothing sinful that I recall. Well, maybe not rock 'n' roll Josh On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Mixon Bill via Texascavers < texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote: > When I started caving, nobody thought twice about smoking in a cave. No > doubt I did from time to time. (I'm one of those SOBs who quit smoking only > once.) I still don't see any problem with it. Apparently some people have > come to think that the merest whiff of cigarette smoke will kill them, and > then some people have come to worry about the wee beasties in the cave. > Never noticed any lack of wee beasties like spiders and roaches in the > homes of people who smoked (not that kind of roach, you who have evil > minds). The whole anti-smoking thing is silly. > > And a conservation-minded caver dumped his spent carbide under a rock or > down a hole, where it wouldn't be conspicuous. It hadn't been many years > since cavers had stopped smoking their NSS numbers on the wall at the end > of a difficult cave. I saw the numbers of some pretty famous cavers. -- > Mixon > > Research is known to the state of California to cause cancer in laboratory > animals. > > You may "reply" to the address this message > (unless it's a TexasCavers list post) > came from, but for long-term use, save: > Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu > AMCS: a...@mexicancaves.org or sa...@mexicancaves.org > > ___ > Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com > Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/ > texascavers@texascavers.com/ > http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers > ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
Re: [Texascavers] doing sinful things in caves
Bill, It's not that I think the smoke is going to kill me, I just think the smell is deeply unpleasant. It also makes my clothes reek. I have never smoked a cigarette in my life and so have never needed to get used to the smell... Cheers, Stefan -Original Message- From: Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] On Behalf Of Mixon Bill via Texascavers When I started caving, nobody thought twice about smoking in a cave. [] Apparently some people have come to think that the merest whiff of cigarette smoke will kill them, []. The whole anti-smoking thing is silly. -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. ARM Limited, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England & Wales, Company No: 2557590 ARM Holdings plc, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England & Wales, Company No: 2548782 ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
[Texascavers] doing sinful things in caves
When I started caving, nobody thought twice about smoking in a cave. No doubt I did from time to time. (I'm one of those SOBs who quit smoking only once.) I still don't see any problem with it. Apparently some people have come to think that the merest whiff of cigarette smoke will kill them, and then some people have come to worry about the wee beasties in the cave. Never noticed any lack of wee beasties like spiders and roaches in the homes of people who smoked (not that kind of roach, you who have evil minds). The whole anti-smoking thing is silly. And a conservation-minded caver dumped his spent carbide under a rock or down a hole, where it wouldn't be conspicuous. It hadn't been many years since cavers had stopped smoking their NSS numbers on the wall at the end of a difficult cave. I saw the numbers of some pretty famous cavers. -- Mixon Research is known to the state of California to cause cancer in laboratory animals. You may "reply" to the address this message (unless it's a TexasCavers list post) came from, but for long-term use, save: Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu AMCS: a...@mexicancaves.org or sa...@mexicancaves.org ___ Texascavers mailing list | http://texascavers.com Texascavers@texascavers.com | Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/texascavers@texascavers.com/ http://lists.texascavers.com/listinfo/texascavers
