Re: [ot_caving] crime in the city
Tragically funny - the statement about the world in the future "being a grim place for my children and my children's children" is almost like a self fulfilling prophecy. If more people were truly serious about reducing their footprint - they'd be committed to having no footprints following their own! With NO progeny - -WaV- On 6/20/08, Louise Power wrote: > > You're right about the population. In 2000, there were just about 530,000 > people in PDX, making it the most populous city in Oregon and the third most > populous city in the Northwest--we're not all that big up here. The > demographics, however, are extremely varied (per Wiki, > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portland%2C_Oregon): > > As of 2000, there are 529,121 people residing in the city, organized into > 223,737 households and 118,356 families. The population density is 3,939.2 > people per square mile (1,521/km²). There are 237,307 housing units at an > average density of 1,766.7/sq mi (682.1/km²). The racial makeup of the city > is 77.91% White, 6.64% African American, 6.33% Asian, 1.06% Native American, > 0.38% Pacific Islander, 3.55% from other races, and 4.15% from two or more > races. 6.81% of the population are Hispanic or Latino of any race. 15.3% > were of German, 8.9% Irish and 8.8% English ancestry according to Census > 2000. 83.3% spoke English, 5.6% Spanish, 2.0% Vietnamese and 1.3% Russian as > their first language. > So if Houston is so Dog-awful, why are you still living there. I don't know > what you do for a living except blog, but surely your job is portable. By > the way, where did you grow up that you had to walk to school in snow? Not > Houston, obviously. And the house that I lived in when I lived in Houston > went on the market last year for $300,000. I happen to know that it was sold > to that owner for $15,000 in 1976. > > Sending out good thoughts to the universe, > > Louise >> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 16:05:11 -0500> From: dlocklea...@gmail.com> To: >> o...@texascavers.com> Subject: [ot_caving] crime in the city> > Louise,> > >> In 1976, I used to walk 2 miles to elementary school in the snow> all by >> myself. I crossed private property, hopped fences, chased> wild animals, >> entered sewer tunnels, took short cuts across industrial> work zones. >> Those were different times, or maybe I was extremely> lucky to survive >> that.> > I can't imagine a kid doing those things today.> > Inner city >> Houston 2008, is almost as bad as the Kurt Russell movie> "Escape From New >> York." You don't walk or bicycle,in the 1st> ward, 2nd ward,> or 5th ward, >> alone at night. Especially in the remote areas of those areas.> That is >> were Search groups 1st go look for bodies.> > You would probably have to >> spend $ 200,000 on a house to live in the> inner city and not be in the >> ghetto. And the taxes would kill you.> > I have never been to Portand, but >> I bet it doesn't have 5 million people within> a 100 mile radius.> > I >> don't believe there is any town with a melting pot like Houston. We have> >> every single nationality here. We maybe New York has more Puerto Ricans,> >> or Jews or Catholics. But we have them beat on the Iranians, the Iraquis,> >> the Pakistanis, the Mongolians, the Mexicans, the Guatamalans, the >> Hondurans,> the Costa Ricans, the Panamanians, the Peruvians, the >> Columbians, the> Equadorans, the Brazilians, the Chileans, Chinese, the >> Japanese, the Koreans,> the Phillipinos, the Vietnamese, the Africans, the >> African-Americans, etc.> > I just don't think what works in one town will >> necessarily work in Houston.> Latinos don't like to sit next to Blacks on >> the bus, especially if they are in> gangs.> > I think what I am trying to >> say,> > is that I would rather live in Portland.> > David Locklear> > >> -> >> Give this to a friend: ot-subscr...@texascavers.com> To unsubscribe, >> e-mail: ot-unsubscr...@texascavers.com> For additional commands, e-mail: >> ot-h...@texascavers.com> - Give this to a friend: ot-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: ot-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: ot-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [ot_caving] crime in the city
You're right about the population. In 2000, there were just about 530,000 people in PDX, making it the most populous city in Oregon and the third most populous city in the Northwest--we're not all that big up here. The demographics, however, are extremely varied (per Wiki, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portland%2C_Oregon): As of 2000, there are 529,121 people residing in the city, organized into 223,737 households and 118,356 families. The population density is 3,939.2 people per square mile (1,521/km²). There are 237,307 housing units at an average density of 1,766.7/sq mi (682.1/km²). The racial makeup of the city is 77.91% White, 6.64% African American, 6.33% Asian, 1.06% Native American, 0.38% Pacific Islander, 3.55% from other races, and 4.15% from two or more races. 6.81% of the population are Hispanic or Latino of any race. 15.3% were of German, 8.9% Irish and 8.8% English ancestry according to Census 2000. 83.3% spoke English, 5.6% Spanish, 2.0% Vietnamese and 1.3% Russian as their first language. So if Houston is so Dog-awful, why are you still living there. I don't know what you do for a living except blog, but surely your job is portable. By the way, where did you grow up that you had to walk to school in snow? Not Houston, obviously. And the house that I lived in when I lived in Houston went on the market last year for $300,000. I happen to know that it was sold to that owner for $15,000 in 1976. Sending out good thoughts to the universe, Louise > Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 16:05:11 -0500> From: dlocklea...@gmail.com> To: > o...@texascavers.com> Subject: [ot_caving] crime in the city> > Louise,> > In > 1976, I used to walk 2 miles to elementary school in the snow> all by myself. > I crossed private property, hopped fences, chased> wild animals, entered > sewer tunnels, took short cuts across industrial> work zones. Those were > different times, or maybe I was extremely> lucky to survive that.> > I can't > imagine a kid doing those things today.> > Inner city Houston 2008, is almost > as bad as the Kurt Russell movie> "Escape From New York." You don't walk or > bicycle,in the 1st> ward, 2nd ward,> or 5th ward, alone at night. Especially > in the remote areas of those areas.> That is were Search groups 1st go look > for bodies.> > You would probably have to spend $ 200,000 on a house to live > in the> inner city and not be in the ghetto. And the taxes would kill you.> > > I have never been to Portand, but I bet it doesn't have 5 million people > within> a 100 mile radius.> > I don't believe there is any town with a > melting pot like Houston. We have> every single nationality here. We maybe > New York has more Puerto Ricans,> or Jews or Catholics. But we have them beat > on the Iranians, the Iraquis,> the Pakistanis, the Mongolians, the Mexicans, > the Guatamalans, the Hondurans,> the Costa Ricans, the Panamanians, the > Peruvians, the Columbians, the> Equadorans, the Brazilians, the Chileans, > Chinese, the Japanese, the Koreans,> the Phillipinos, the Vietnamese, the > Africans, the African-Americans, etc.> > I just don't think what works in one > town will necessarily work in Houston.> Latinos don't like to sit next to > Blacks on the bus, especially if they are in> gangs.> > I think what I am > trying to say,> > is that I would rather live in Portland.> > David Locklear> > > -> Give > this to a friend: ot-subscr...@texascavers.com> To unsubscribe, e-mail: > ot-unsubscr...@texascavers.com> For additional commands, e-mail: > ot-h...@texascavers.com>
[ot_caving] crime in the city
Louise, In 1976, I used to walk 2 miles to elementary school in the snow all by myself. I crossed private property, hopped fences, chased wild animals, entered sewer tunnels, took short cuts across industrial work zones.Those were different times, or maybe I was extremely lucky to survive that. I can't imagine a kid doing those things today. Inner city Houston 2008, is almost as bad as the Kurt Russell movie "Escape From New York." You don't walk or bicycle,in the 1st ward, 2nd ward, or 5th ward, alone at night. Especially in the remote areas of those areas. That is were Search groups 1st go look for bodies. You would probably have to spend $ 200,000 on a house to live in the inner city and not be in the ghetto. And the taxes would kill you. I have never been to Portand, but I bet it doesn't have 5 million people within a 100 mile radius. I don't believe there is any town with a melting pot like Houston. We have every single nationality here. We maybe New York has more Puerto Ricans, or Jews or Catholics. But we have them beat on the Iranians, the Iraquis, the Pakistanis, the Mongolians, the Mexicans, the Guatamalans, the Hondurans, the Costa Ricans, the Panamanians, the Peruvians, the Columbians, the Equadorans, the Brazilians, the Chileans, Chinese, the Japanese, the Koreans, the Phillipinos, the Vietnamese, the Africans, the African-Americans, etc. I just don't think what works in one town will necessarily work in Houston. Latinos don't like to sit next to Blacks on the bus, especially if they are in gangs. I think what I am trying to say, is that I would rather live in Portland. David Locklear - Give this to a friend: ot-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: ot-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: ot-h...@texascavers.com
