Re: [ot_caving] ultracapacitor flashlight

2008-11-13 Thread CaverArch
Here is another ultra-capacitor flashlight, apparently from the firm that 
created the energy storage technology.

Lightning Flashlights

or

http://www.lightningflashlights.com/

The light is variable, and produced 200 lumen on high beam, but only runs at 
that capactiy for 25 minutes, then goes into low power mode for another 20 
minutes.  It lasts 90 minutes at standard beam, plus the 20 minute auto 
emergency level.  However, I could find no price and when I followed the 
partners link to a retailer they were selling the Light for Life instead.

Roger Moore

In a message dated 11/12/08 19:11:57 Central Standard Time, 
pitboun...@gmail.com writes:
Saw this flashlight on the Goat blog, Locklear would you please get one and 
write a review for us?

Nico


[ot_caving] ultracapacitor flashlight

2008-11-12 Thread Nico Escamilla
Saw this flashlight http://flashlightnews.org/story1762.shtml on the Goat
blog, Locklear would you please get one and write a review for us?

Nico


Re: [ot_caving] ultracapacitor flashlight

2008-11-12 Thread David
Nico,

That post was the most interesting to ever appear on OT ( IMHO ).

However, I always thought the problem with the ultra-capacitors was
size, and that the unit would never fit
into the housing of a flashlight.

Let's hope it works and lets hope somebody builds a headlamp.


On a related note,

Sports Authority is now selling a fully waterproof LED flashlight
suitable for mounting on the side of the helmet,
and suitable for all the extremes of wet caving - waterfalls,
whirlpools, duck-unders, rapids, etc.It was $ 58
I think and not only is it a bright yellow neon color, but the
headpiece glows in the dark.  Again, I ask, why
not in a headlamp?  This is a new Pelican product.

Academy is selling a frickin bright new T4 by Streamlight. It was
$ 80. It is probably too big to mount on
the side of a helmet, unless you are going to Golondrinas or Guaguas.


David Locklear
Fort Bend County Armchair Cavers Association ( FBACA )

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Re: [ot_caving] ultracapacitor flashlight

2008-11-12 Thread Bill Bentley
Is the Ultracapitor similar to a fluxcapacitor?  So if you get a lot of
superbright LED's that are powered by a fluxcapacitor and get it to spin at
a high velocity, will it make you
A. Go back in time?
B. Go forward in time?
C. Smell like spent carbide as it heats up?
D. Blow up in a microfarad implosion?


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Subject: Re: [ot_caving] ultracapacitor flashlight


 Nico,

 That post was the most interesting to ever appear on OT ( IMHO ).

 However, I always thought the problem with the ultra-capacitors was
 size, and that the unit would never fit
 into the housing of a flashlight.

 Let's hope it works and lets hope somebody builds a headlamp.


 On a related note,

 Sports Authority is now selling a fully waterproof LED flashlight
 suitable for mounting on the side of the helmet,
 and suitable for all the extremes of wet caving - waterfalls,
 whirlpools, duck-unders, rapids, etc.It was $ 58
 I think and not only is it a bright yellow neon color, but the
 headpiece glows in the dark.  Again, I ask, why
 not in a headlamp?  This is a new Pelican product.

 Academy is selling a frickin bright new T4 by Streamlight. It was
 $ 80. It is probably too big to mount on
 the side of a helmet, unless you are going to Golondrinas or Guaguas.


 David Locklear
 Fort Bend County Armchair Cavers Association ( FBACA )

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Re: [ot_caving] ultracapacitor flashlight

2008-11-12 Thread David
Advantages to Super Capacitors:


1.   Can be used and recharged millions of time.

2.Low impedance - enhances load handling when put in paralleled
with a battery.
( I think this means a flashlight could be designed to run
longer with less batteries )

3.Re-charge in seconds.

4.Simple charge methods - no full-charge detection is needed; no
danger of overcharge.
  ( thus easier to charge in cigarette lighter, Right ? )


Limitations to Super Capacitors:


1.Linear discharge voltage prevents use of the full energy spectrum.
   ( I think this means LED light goes out immediately, instead of
running dim for several hours )

2.Low energy density - typically holds one-fifth to one-tenth the
energy of an electrochemical battery.
   ( thus more bulky than a AA battery )

3.Cells have low voltages - serial connections are needed to
obtain higher voltages. Voltage balancing is required if more than
threecapacitors are connected in series.( I think this means
more of a problem with brighter LED lamps )

4.High self-discharge - the rate is considerably higher than that
of an electrochemical battery.
   ( thus not good for expedition trips underground )

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Re: [ot_caving] ultracapacitor flashlight

2008-11-12 Thread Don Cooper
Ultracapacitors are what's used in the shake and shine flashlights.
Remember those?  Maybe not so ultra - but a capacitor, neverthesless
-WAV

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 7:35 PM, David dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote:

 Nico,

 That post was the most interesting to ever appear on OT ( IMHO ).

 However, I always thought the problem with the ultra-capacitors was
 size, and that the unit would never fit
 into the housing of a flashlight.

 Let's hope it works and lets hope somebody builds a headlamp.


 On a related note,

 Sports Authority is now selling a fully waterproof LED flashlight
 suitable for mounting on the side of the helmet,
 and suitable for all the extremes of wet caving - waterfalls,
 whirlpools, duck-unders, rapids, etc.It was $ 58
 I think and not only is it a bright yellow neon color, but the
 headpiece glows in the dark.  Again, I ask, why
 not in a headlamp?  This is a new Pelican product.

 Academy is selling a frickin bright new T4 by Streamlight. It was
 $ 80. It is probably too big to mount on
 the side of a helmet, unless you are going to Golondrinas or Guaguas.


 David Locklear
 Fort Bend County Armchair Cavers Association ( FBACA )

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