RE: [Texascavers] Lemons Ranch Cave
I'll remember (maybe) to use that as an excuse. Fritz From: Geary Schindel [mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org] Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 1:21 PM To: Andy Zenker; mark gee Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Lemons Ranch Cave High CO2 can cause daine bramage and make you forget things. G
Re: [Texascavers] Lemons Ranch Cave
My oversight. You are right, you both did the hard part and completed the survey. Bad air yes, but it probably was much worse before we blew good air into the pit for an hour. --- On Tue, 2/16/10, Andy Zenker rockhugg...@gmail.com wrote: From: Andy Zenker rockhugg...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Lemons Ranch Cave To: texascavers@texascavers.com List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2010, 10:39 AM Actually, Matt Zaldivar and I surveyed the final depth of Lemon's Ranch. Mark and Rafal recorded the data. It was bad air, very muddy and a ton of fun! Andy Zenker On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Preston Forsythe pns_...@bellsouth.net wrote: We were able to complete the survey by running 225 ft of 6 air duct down into the cave to blow out the high concentrations of CO 2. Ye Gads..hard core. I have been down in one of those TX bad air pits and I back out quickly. Preston in western KY - Original Message - From: mark gee To: texascavers@texascavers.com Cc: markageetxca...@yahoo.com Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 1:19 PM Subject: [Texascavers] Lemons Ranch Cave Just wanted to make you cavers aware that a new map of Lemons Ranch is now finished and it will be at the TSA salone for viewing. The survey is complete now and the survey footage totals 949 ft. with a depth of 104 ft. This is the third deepest cave at the park I am told. My thanks go to those who helped with the survey. They are : Will Harris, Ronnie Harrison, Rafal Kedzierski, Ed Spaulding, Scott Boyd, Bonnie Longley, Justin Menking, Kurt Menking, Kathleen O-Connor, Mark Sanders, and Jessica Stevenson. There are two dig leads at both ends of the cave but both are grim. Both are in bad air. We were able to complete the survey by running 225 ft of 6 air duct down into the cave to blow out the high concentrations of CO 2. We plan to survey other bad air caves as long as bats are not present in the caves. Happy Caving !
Re: [Texascavers] Lemons Ranch Cave
Absolutely! Without Marks air blower and 200ft of tubing into the cave, the surveying would not have been possible at all. It worked remarkably well. I was impressed. On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 11:29 AM, mark gee markageetxca...@yahoo.comwrote: My oversight. You are right, you both did the hard part and completed the survey. Bad air yes, but it probably was much worse before we blew good air into the pit for an hour. --- On *Tue, 2/16/10, Andy Zenker rockhugg...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Andy Zenker rockhugg...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Lemons Ranch Cave To: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2010, 10:39 AM Actually, Matt Zaldivar and I surveyed the final depth of Lemon's Ranch. Mark and Rafal recorded the data. It was bad air, very muddy and a ton of fun! Andy Zenker On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Preston Forsythe pns_...@bellsouth.nethttp://us.mc539.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=pns_...@bellsouth.net wrote: We were able to complete the survey by running 225 ft of 6 air duct down into the cave to blow out the high concentrations of CO 2. Ye Gads..hard core. I have been down in one of those TX bad air pits and I back out quickly. Preston in western KY - Original Message - *From:* mark geehttp://us.mc539.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=markageetxca...@yahoo.com *To:* texascavers@texascavers.comhttp://us.mc539.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=texascavers@texascavers.com *Cc:* markageetxca...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc539.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=markageetxca...@yahoo.com *Sent:* Monday, February 15, 2010 1:19 PM *Subject:* [Texascavers] Lemons Ranch Cave Just wanted to make you cavers aware that a new map of Lemons Ranch is now finished and it will be at the TSA salone for viewing. The survey is complete now and the survey footage totals 949 ft. with a depth of 104 ft. This is the third deepest cave at the park I am told. My thanks go to those who helped with the survey. They are : Will Harris, Ronnie Harrison, Rafal Kedzierski, Ed Spaulding, Scott Boyd, Bonnie Longley, Justin Menking, Kurt Menking, Kathleen O-Connor, Mark Sanders, and Jessica Stevenson. There are two dig leads at both ends of the cave but both are grim. Both are in bad air. We were able to complete the survey by running 225 ft of 6 air duct down into the cave to blow out the high concentrations of CO 2. We plan to survey other bad air caves as long as bats are not present in the caves. Happy Caving !
RE: [Texascavers] Lemons Ranch Cave
High CO2 can cause daine bramage and make you forget things. G From: Andy Zenker [mailto:rockhugg...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 12:24 PM To: mark gee Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Lemons Ranch Cave Absolutely! Without Marks air blower and 200ft of tubing into the cave, the surveying would not have been possible at all. It worked remarkably well. I was impressed. On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 11:29 AM, mark gee markageetxca...@yahoo.commailto:markageetxca...@yahoo.com wrote: My oversight. You are right, you both did the hard part and completed the survey. Bad air yes, but it probably was much worse before we blew good air into the pit for an hour. --- On Tue, 2/16/10, Andy Zenker rockhugg...@gmail.commailto:rockhugg...@gmail.com wrote: From: Andy Zenker rockhugg...@gmail.commailto:rockhugg...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Lemons Ranch Cave To: texascavers@texascavers.commailto:texascavers@texascavers.com List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2010, 10:39 AM Actually, Matt Zaldivar and I surveyed the final depth of Lemon's Ranch. Mark and Rafal recorded the data. It was bad air, very muddy and a ton of fun! Andy Zenker On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Preston Forsythe pns_...@bellsouth.nethttp://us.mc539.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=pns_...@bellsouth.net wrote: We were able to complete the survey by running 225 ft of 6 air duct down into the cave to blow out the high concentrations of CO 2. Ye Gads..hard core. I have been down in one of those TX bad air pits and I back out quickly. Preston in western KY - Original Message - From: mark geehttp://us.mc539.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=markageetxca...@yahoo.com To: texascavers@texascavers.comhttp://us.mc539.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=texascavers@texascavers.com Cc: markageetxca...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc539.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=markageetxca...@yahoo.com Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 1:19 PM Subject: [Texascavers] Lemons Ranch Cave Just wanted to make you cavers aware that a new map of Lemons Ranch is now finished and it will be at the TSA salone for viewing. The survey is complete now and the survey footage totals 949 ft. with a depth of 104 ft. This is the third deepest cave at the park I am told. My thanks go to those who helped with the survey. They are : Will Harris, Ronnie Harrison, Rafal Kedzierski, Ed Spaulding, Scott Boyd, Bonnie Longley, Justin Menking, Kurt Menking, Kathleen O-Connor, Mark Sanders, and Jessica Stevenson. There are two dig leads at both ends of the cave but both are grim. Both are in bad air. We were able to complete the survey by running 225 ft of 6 air duct down into the cave to blow out the high concentrations of CO 2. We plan to survey other bad air caves as long as bats are not present in the caves. Happy Caving !
RE: [Texascavers] Lemons Ranch Cave
What were we talking about?! aMrk From: Geary Schindel [mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org] Sent: Fri 2/19/2010 1:20 PM To: Andy Zenker; mark gee Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Lemons Ranch Cave High CO2 can cause daine bramage and make you forget things. G
Re: [Texascavers] Lemons Ranch Cave
So far I've escaped most of the adverse effects of bad air caving- knock on wood. Ooh! I think someones at the door, excuse me. -Brain On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 1:24 PM, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote: What were we talking about?! aMrk -- *From:* Geary Schindel [mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org] *Sent:* Fri 2/19/2010 1:20 PM *To:* Andy Zenker; mark gee *Cc:* texascavers@texascavers.com *Subject:* RE: [Texascavers] Lemons Ranch Cave High CO2 can cause daine bramage and make you forget things. G -- Brian Riordan 979-218-8009 (Mobile) riordan.br...@gmail.com
Re: [Texascavers] Lemons Ranch Cave
Actually, Matt Zaldivar and I surveyed the final depth of Lemon's Ranch. Mark and Rafal recorded the data. It was bad air, very muddy and a ton of fun! Andy Zenker On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Preston Forsythe pns_...@bellsouth.netwrote: We were able to complete the survey by running 225 ft of 6 air duct down into the cave to blow out the high concentrations of CO 2. Ye Gads..hard core. I have been down in one of those TX bad air pits and I back out quickly. Preston in western KY - Original Message - *From:* mark gee markageetxca...@yahoo.com *To:* texascavers@texascavers.com *Cc:* markageetxca...@yahoo.com *Sent:* Monday, February 15, 2010 1:19 PM *Subject:* [Texascavers] Lemons Ranch Cave Just wanted to make you cavers aware that a new map of Lemons Ranch is now finished and it will be at the TSA salone for viewing. The survey is complete now and the survey footage totals 949 ft. with a depth of 104 ft. This is the third deepest cave at the park I am told. My thanks go to those who helped with the survey. They are : Will Harris, Ronnie Harrison, Rafal Kedzierski, Ed Spaulding, Scott Boyd, Bonnie Longley, Justin Menking, Kurt Menking, Kathleen O-Connor, Mark Sanders, and Jessica Stevenson. There are two dig leads at both ends of the cave but both are grim. Both are in bad air. We were able to complete the survey by running 225 ft of 6 air duct down into the cave to blow out the high concentrations of CO 2. We plan to survey other bad air caves as long as bats are not present in the caves. Happy Caving !
Re: [Texascavers] Lemons Ranch Cave
We were able to complete the survey by running 225 ft of 6 air duct down into the cave to blow out the high concentrations of CO 2. Ye Gads..hard core. I have been down in one of those TX bad air pits and I back out quickly. Preston in western KY - Original Message - From: mark gee To: texascavers@texascavers.com Cc: markageetxca...@yahoo.com Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 1:19 PM Subject: [Texascavers] Lemons Ranch Cave Just wanted to make you cavers aware that a new map of Lemons Ranch is now finished and it will be at the TSA salone for viewing. The survey is complete now and the survey footage totals 949 ft. with a depth of 104 ft. This is the third deepest cave at the park I am told. My thanks go to those who helped with the survey. They are : Will Harris, Ronnie Harrison, Rafal Kedzierski, Ed Spaulding, Scott Boyd, Bonnie Longley, Justin Menking, Kurt Menking, Kathleen O-Connor, Mark Sanders, and Jessica Stevenson. There are two dig leads at both ends of the cave but both are grim. Both are in bad air. We were able to complete the survey by running 225 ft of 6 air duct down into the cave to blow out the high concentrations of CO 2. We plan to survey other bad air caves as long as bats are not present in the caves. Happy Caving !