RE: [Texascavers] Lemons Ranch Cave

2010-02-22 Thread Fritz Holt
I'll remember (maybe) to use that as an excuse.

Fritz


From: Geary Schindel [mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org]
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 1:21 PM
To: Andy Zenker; mark gee
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Lemons Ranch Cave



High CO2 can cause daine bramage and make you forget things.

G



Re: [Texascavers] Lemons Ranch Cave

2010-02-19 Thread mark gee
My oversight. You are right, you both did the hard part and completed the 
survey. Bad air yes, but it probably was much worse before we blew good air 
into the pit for an hour.

--- On Tue, 2/16/10, Andy Zenker rockhugg...@gmail.com wrote:


From: Andy Zenker rockhugg...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Lemons Ranch Cave
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2010, 10:39 AM


Actually, Matt Zaldivar and I surveyed the final depth of Lemon's Ranch.  Mark 
and Rafal recorded the data.  It was bad air, very muddy and a ton of fun!

Andy Zenker


On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Preston Forsythe pns_...@bellsouth.net wrote:




We were able to complete the survey by running 225 ft of 6 air duct down into 
the cave to blow out the high concentrations of CO 2.
 
Ye Gads..hard core.
 
I have been down in one of those TX bad air pits and I back out quickly.
 
Preston in western KY
 





- Original Message - 
From: mark gee 
To: texascavers@texascavers.com 
Cc: markageetxca...@yahoo.com 
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 1:19 PM
Subject: [Texascavers] Lemons Ranch Cave






Just wanted to make you cavers aware that a new map of Lemons Ranch is now 
finished and it will be at the TSA salone for viewing. The survey is complete 
now and the survey footage totals 949 ft. with a depth of 104 ft. This is the 
third deepest cave at the park I am told.  My thanks go to those who helped 
with the survey. They are : Will Harris, Ronnie Harrison, Rafal Kedzierski, Ed 
Spaulding, Scott Boyd, Bonnie Longley, Justin Menking, Kurt Menking, Kathleen 
O-Connor, Mark Sanders, and Jessica Stevenson. There are two dig leads at both 
ends of the cave but both are grim. Both are in bad air. We were able to 
complete the survey by running 225 ft of 6 air duct down into the cave to blow 
out the high concentrations of CO 2. We plan to survey other bad air caves as 
long as bats are not present in the caves. 
Happy Caving ! 




  

Re: [Texascavers] Lemons Ranch Cave

2010-02-19 Thread Andy Zenker
Absolutely!
Without Marks air blower and 200ft of tubing into the cave, the surveying
would not have been possible at all.  It worked remarkably well. I was
impressed.

On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 11:29 AM, mark gee markageetxca...@yahoo.comwrote:

 My oversight. You are right, you both did the hard part and completed the
 survey. Bad air yes, but it probably was much worse before we blew good air
 into the pit for an hour.

 --- On *Tue, 2/16/10, Andy Zenker rockhugg...@gmail.com* wrote:


 From: Andy Zenker rockhugg...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Lemons Ranch Cave
 To: texascavers@texascavers.com
 Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2010, 10:39 AM


 Actually, Matt Zaldivar and I surveyed the final depth of Lemon's Ranch.
 Mark and Rafal recorded the data.  It was bad air, very muddy and a ton of
 fun!

 Andy Zenker

 On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Preston Forsythe 
 pns_...@bellsouth.nethttp://us.mc539.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=pns_...@bellsouth.net
  wrote:

  We were able to complete the survey by running 225 ft of 6 air duct
 down into the cave to blow out the high concentrations of CO 2.

 Ye Gads..hard core.

 I have been down in one of those TX bad air pits and I back out quickly.

 Preston in western KY

 

 - Original Message -
 *From:* mark 
 geehttp://us.mc539.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=markageetxca...@yahoo.com
 *To:* 
 texascavers@texascavers.comhttp://us.mc539.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=texascavers@texascavers.com
 *Cc:* 
 markageetxca...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc539.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=markageetxca...@yahoo.com
 *Sent:* Monday, February 15, 2010 1:19 PM
 *Subject:* [Texascavers] Lemons Ranch Cave

   Just wanted to make you cavers aware that a new map of Lemons Ranch is
 now finished and it will be at the TSA salone for viewing. The survey is
 complete now and the survey footage totals 949 ft. with a depth of 104 ft.
 This is the third deepest cave at the park I am told.  My thanks go to those
 who helped with the survey. They are : Will Harris, Ronnie Harrison, Rafal
 Kedzierski, Ed Spaulding, Scott Boyd, Bonnie Longley, Justin Menking, Kurt
 Menking, Kathleen O-Connor, Mark Sanders, and Jessica Stevenson. There are
 two dig leads at both ends of the cave but both are grim. Both are in bad
 air. We were able to complete the survey by running 225 ft of 6 air duct
 down into the cave to blow out the high concentrations of CO 2. We plan to
 survey other bad air caves as long as bats are not present in the caves.
 Happy Caving !






RE: [Texascavers] Lemons Ranch Cave

2010-02-19 Thread Geary Schindel


High CO2 can cause daine bramage and make you forget things.

G

From: Andy Zenker [mailto:rockhugg...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 12:24 PM
To: mark gee
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Lemons Ranch Cave

Absolutely!
Without Marks air blower and 200ft of tubing into the cave, the surveying would 
not have been possible at all.  It worked remarkably well. I was impressed.
On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 11:29 AM, mark gee 
markageetxca...@yahoo.commailto:markageetxca...@yahoo.com wrote:
My oversight. You are right, you both did the hard part and completed the 
survey. Bad air yes, but it probably was much worse before we blew good air 
into the pit for an hour.

--- On Tue, 2/16/10, Andy Zenker 
rockhugg...@gmail.commailto:rockhugg...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Andy Zenker rockhugg...@gmail.commailto:rockhugg...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Lemons Ranch Cave
To: texascavers@texascavers.commailto:texascavers@texascavers.com
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2010, 10:39 AM

Actually, Matt Zaldivar and I surveyed the final depth of Lemon's Ranch.  Mark 
and Rafal recorded the data.  It was bad air, very muddy and a ton of fun!

Andy Zenker
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Preston Forsythe 
pns_...@bellsouth.nethttp://us.mc539.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=pns_...@bellsouth.net
 wrote:
We were able to complete the survey by running 225 ft of 6 air duct down into 
the cave to blow out the high concentrations of CO 2.

Ye Gads..hard core.

I have been down in one of those TX bad air pits and I back out quickly.

Preston in western KY


- Original Message -
From: mark 
geehttp://us.mc539.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=markageetxca...@yahoo.com
To: 
texascavers@texascavers.comhttp://us.mc539.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=texascavers@texascavers.com
Cc: 
markageetxca...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc539.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=markageetxca...@yahoo.com
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 1:19 PM
Subject: [Texascavers] Lemons Ranch Cave

Just wanted to make you cavers aware that a new map of Lemons Ranch is now 
finished and it will be at the TSA salone for viewing. The survey is complete 
now and the survey footage totals 949 ft. with a depth of 104 ft. This is the 
third deepest cave at the park I am told.  My thanks go to those who helped 
with the survey. They are : Will Harris, Ronnie Harrison, Rafal Kedzierski, Ed 
Spaulding, Scott Boyd, Bonnie Longley, Justin Menking, Kurt Menking, Kathleen 
O-Connor, Mark Sanders, and Jessica Stevenson. There are two dig leads at both 
ends of the cave but both are grim. Both are in bad air. We were able to 
complete the survey by running 225 ft of 6 air duct down into the cave to blow 
out the high concentrations of CO 2. We plan to survey other bad air caves as 
long as bats are not present in the caves.
Happy Caving !







RE: [Texascavers] Lemons Ranch Cave

2010-02-19 Thread Mark . Alman
What were we talking about?!
 
 
aMrk



From: Geary Schindel [mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org]
Sent: Fri 2/19/2010 1:20 PM
To: Andy Zenker; mark gee
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Lemons Ranch Cave



 

 

High CO2 can cause daine bramage and make you forget things.

 

G



Re: [Texascavers] Lemons Ranch Cave

2010-02-19 Thread Brian Riordan
So far I've escaped most of the adverse effects of bad air caving- knock on
wood.  Ooh!  I think someones at the door, excuse me.

-Brain

On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 1:24 PM, mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote:

  What were we talking about?!


 aMrk

 --
 *From:* Geary Schindel [mailto:gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org]
 *Sent:* Fri 2/19/2010 1:20 PM
 *To:* Andy Zenker; mark gee
 *Cc:* texascavers@texascavers.com
 *Subject:* RE: [Texascavers] Lemons Ranch Cave





 High CO2 can cause daine bramage and make you forget things.



 G




-- 
Brian Riordan
979-218-8009 (Mobile)
riordan.br...@gmail.com


Re: [Texascavers] Lemons Ranch Cave

2010-02-16 Thread Andy Zenker
Actually, Matt Zaldivar and I surveyed the final depth of Lemon's Ranch.
Mark and Rafal recorded the data.  It was bad air, very muddy and a ton of
fun!

Andy Zenker

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Preston Forsythe pns_...@bellsouth.netwrote:

  We were able to complete the survey by running 225 ft of 6 air duct down
 into the cave to blow out the high concentrations of CO 2.

 Ye Gads..hard core.

 I have been down in one of those TX bad air pits and I back out quickly.

 Preston in western KY

 

 - Original Message -
 *From:* mark gee markageetxca...@yahoo.com
 *To:* texascavers@texascavers.com
 *Cc:* markageetxca...@yahoo.com
 *Sent:* Monday, February 15, 2010 1:19 PM
 *Subject:* [Texascavers] Lemons Ranch Cave

   Just wanted to make you cavers aware that a new map of Lemons Ranch is
 now finished and it will be at the TSA salone for viewing. The survey is
 complete now and the survey footage totals 949 ft. with a depth of 104 ft.
 This is the third deepest cave at the park I am told.  My thanks go to those
 who helped with the survey. They are : Will Harris, Ronnie Harrison, Rafal
 Kedzierski, Ed Spaulding, Scott Boyd, Bonnie Longley, Justin Menking, Kurt
 Menking, Kathleen O-Connor, Mark Sanders, and Jessica Stevenson. There are
 two dig leads at both ends of the cave but both are grim. Both are in bad
 air. We were able to complete the survey by running 225 ft of 6 air duct
 down into the cave to blow out the high concentrations of CO 2. We plan to
 survey other bad air caves as long as bats are not present in the caves.
 Happy Caving !




Re: [Texascavers] Lemons Ranch Cave

2010-02-15 Thread Preston Forsythe
We were able to complete the survey by running 225 ft of 6 air duct down into 
the cave to blow out the high concentrations of CO 2.

Ye Gads..hard core.

I have been down in one of those TX bad air pits and I back out quickly.

Preston in western KY


  - Original Message - 
  From: mark gee 
  To: texascavers@texascavers.com 
  Cc: markageetxca...@yahoo.com 
  Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 1:19 PM
  Subject: [Texascavers] Lemons Ranch Cave


Just wanted to make you cavers aware that a new map of Lemons Ranch is 
now finished and it will be at the TSA salone for viewing. The survey is 
complete now and the survey footage totals 949 ft. with a depth of 104 ft. This 
is the third deepest cave at the park I am told.  My thanks go to those who 
helped with the survey. They are : Will Harris, Ronnie Harrison, Rafal 
Kedzierski, Ed Spaulding, Scott Boyd, Bonnie Longley, Justin Menking, Kurt 
Menking, Kathleen O-Connor, Mark Sanders, and Jessica Stevenson. There are two 
dig leads at both ends of the cave but both are grim. Both are in bad air. We 
were able to complete the survey by running 225 ft of 6 air duct down into the 
cave to blow out the high concentrations of CO 2. We plan to survey other bad 
air caves as long as bats are not present in the caves. 
Happy Caving !