Re: [NMCAVER] Karst topography found on Saturn's moon Titan

2010-03-05 Thread DONALD G. DAVIS
See the article at:

http://is.gd/9IEMJ

Anyone up for a trip?

Lee Skinner

Does anyone know where White Canyon, Utah is, and its geologic 
context?  I'm skeptical that the karst terrain image shown there at the 
above Web site displays limestone karst topography--though some features 
might reflect gypsum karst or piping pseudokarst.  It's surely not alpine 
karst, and I know of no extensive low-elevation surface karst in Utah.

--Donald

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Re: [NMCAVER] Karst topography found on Saturn's moon Titan

2010-03-05 Thread matariki1
I just want anyone who is planning a caving trip to Titan, Mars, or the Moon 
know that I am available to serve as the team's field archaeologist should you 
encounter any exo-cultural materials; I could use a long vacation. Unless, of 
course, you are planning to survey The Vaults of Yoh-Vombis. Being attacked 
by brain-eating parasites sounds too much like my actual job.

http://www.eldritchdark.com/writings/short-stories/231/the-vaults-of-yoh-vombis

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From: DONALD G. DAVIS dgda...@nyx.net
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Subject: Re: [NMCAVER] Karst topography found on Saturn's moon Titan

See the article at:

http://is.gd/9IEMJ

Anyone up for a trip?

Lee Skinner

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Re: [NMCAVER] Karst topography found on Saturn's moon Titan

2010-03-05 Thread Larry Pardue
Donald,

I am not familiar with White Canyon, Utah, but a Google search reveals a canyon 
by that name in the Lake Powell area. It appears to be a slot canyon, at least 
in places, in sandstone.

Larry Pardue

http://www.americansouthwest.net/slot_canyons/white_canyon/

On Mar 5, 2010, at 10:40 AM, DONALD G. DAVIS wrote:

 See the article at:
 
 http://is.gd/9IEMJ
 
 Anyone up for a trip?
 
 Lee Skinner
 
   Does anyone know where White Canyon, Utah is, and its geologic 
 context?  I'm skeptical that the karst terrain image shown there at the 
 above Web site displays limestone karst topography--though some features 
 might reflect gypsum karst or piping pseudokarst.  It's surely not alpine 
 karst, and I know of no extensive low-elevation surface karst in Utah.
 
   --Donald
 
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Re: [NMCAVER] Karst topography found on Saturn's moon Titan

2010-03-05 Thread DONALD G. DAVIS
Donald,

I am not familiar with White Canyon, Utah, but a Google search 
reveals a canyon by that name in the Lake Powell area. It appears to be a 
slot canyon, at least in places, in sandstone.

Larry Pardue

http://www.americansouthwest.net/slot_canyons/white_canyon/

Evidently so.  Here's a comment by a professor of geology at 
Eastern Washington University, pasted from:

http://thebuelement.blogspot.com/2010/03/karst-topography-hypothesized.html

Friday, March 5, 2010
Karst topography hypothesized...
 
on Titan: Is That Saturn's Moon Titan or Utah?

Hmm, perhaps. But I don't agree that White Canyon, Utah is representative 
of karst topography at all. The interesting area certainly hosts an array 
of classic slot canyons (I've engaged in canyoneering in some of them) but 
there's no significant limestone and/or gypsum present. Here's the 
geologic map and stratigraphic column for your perusal. 
Posted by J.P. Buchanan at 7:09 AM

http://geology.utah.gov/online/mp/mp08-3.pdf

--Donald

On Mar 5, 2010, at 10:40 AM, DONALD G. DAVIS wrote:

 See the article at:
 
 http://is.gd/9IEMJ
 
 Anyone up for a trip?
 
 Lee Skinner
 
  Does anyone know where White Canyon, Utah is, and its geologic 
 context?  I'm skeptical that the karst terrain image shown there at the 
 above Web site displays limestone karst topography--though some features 
 might reflect gypsum karst or piping pseudokarst.  It's surely not alpine 
 karst, and I know of no extensive low-elevation surface karst in Utah.
 
  --Donald

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Re: [NMCAVER] Karst topography found on Saturn's moon Titan

2010-03-05 Thread Jon Broholm
I have hiked a section of White Canyon, Utah, an area I believe is called the 
Black Box, and I agree that it is not karst topography.  It is mostly, if not 
all, formed in sandstone, like other Southern Utah slot canyons.  While there 
could be limestone layers present, the canyon has been formed through erosion 
and is not a solutional feature.

In spite of that, it is a spectacular hike, and even a little cavey in places.

- Jon




From: DONALD G. DAVIS dgda...@nyx.net
To: nmca...@caver.net
Sent: Fri, March 5, 2010 11:23:53 AM
Subject: Re: [NMCAVER] Karst topography found on Saturn's moon Titan

Donald,

I am not familiar with White Canyon, Utah, but a Google search 
reveals a canyon by that name in the Lake Powell area. It appears to be a 
slot canyon, at least in places, in sandstone.

Larry Pardue

http://www.americansouthwest.net/slot_canyons/white_canyon/

    Evidently so.  Here's a comment by a professor of geology at 
Eastern Washington University, pasted from:

http://thebuelement.blogspot.com/2010/03/karst-topography-hypothesized.html

Friday, March 5, 2010
Karst topography hypothesized...

on Titan: Is That Saturn's Moon Titan or Utah?

Hmm, perhaps. But I don't agree that White Canyon, Utah is representative 
of karst topography at all. The interesting area certainly hosts an array 
of classic slot canyons (I've engaged in canyoneering in some of them) but 
there's no significant limestone and/or gypsum present. Here's the 
geologic map and stratigraphic column for your perusal. 
Posted by J.P. Buchanan at 7:09 AM

http://geology.utah.gov/online/mp/mp08-3.pdf

                            --Donald

On Mar 5, 2010, at 10:40 AM, DONALD G. DAVIS wrote:

 See the article at:
 
 http://is.gd/9IEMJ
 
 Anyone up for a trip?
 
 Lee Skinner
 
     Does anyone know where White Canyon, Utah is, and its geologic 
 context?  I'm skeptical that the karst terrain image shown there at the 
 above Web site displays limestone karst topography--though some features 
 might reflect gypsum karst or piping pseudokarst.  It's surely not alpine 
 karst, and I know of no extensive low-elevation surface karst in Utah.
 
                             --Donald

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