[Texascavers] Re: [SWR] Fort Stanton Cave Study Project receives international award
This is another similar article from The Ruidoso News: http://tinyurl.com/k92g37f Lee Skinner Fort Stanton Cave Study Project receives international award From the Ruidoso Free Press: http://tinyurl.com/moxlcts Lee Skinner
[Texascavers] Re: [SWR] Fort Stanton Cave Study Project receives international award
This is another similar article from The Ruidoso News: http://tinyurl.com/k92g37f Lee Skinner Fort Stanton Cave Study Project receives international award From the Ruidoso Free Press: http://tinyurl.com/moxlcts Lee Skinner
[Texascavers] Re: [SWR] Fort Stanton Cave Study Project receives international award
This is another similar article from The Ruidoso News: http://tinyurl.com/k92g37f Lee Skinner Fort Stanton Cave Study Project receives international award From the Ruidoso Free Press: http://tinyurl.com/moxlcts Lee Skinner
Re: [SWR] Fort Stanton survey book
Of interest is the "font" on that survey book cover. Carl, that was my old electric typewriter "font", the one we used when publishing two years of the Texas Caver in Dallas in the 60's. Katherine Goodbar and Jacquelyn Robinson alternated every other month in typing up each issue "full justified" on offset paper masters. As editor I typed up each month's issue first, putting in "" to the end of each line. Then on the 2nd typing, Katherine (or Jackie) would randomly put in extra spaces to full justify each line. I sure was glad to buy a "home computer" in 1979 with a word processor. And in 1986, Karen and I bought a Mac with Microsoft Word that wasn't limited to monospaced fonts. A long ways from typesetting in the mid 60's! Oh yes, we still are working on improving our cave survey technology. It helps to have a dust proof Disto that shoots 280 feet when doing long survey shots with precision sketching. - Pete On Jul 29, 2013, at 8:20 PM, Carl Kunath wrote: Time flies when you’re having fun. . . . That appears to be a good example of the survey book that was widely in use in Texas in the 1960s. I think it was a Pete Lindsley design. It became the official TSA survey book in hopes of promoting better uniformity in our survey techniques which were not all that good at the time. Getting all that information on the front cover was a huge step forward! ===Carl Kunath From: John Corcoran Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 3:44 PM To: 'Andy Komensky' ; s...@caver.net Subject: Re: [SWR] Fort Stanton Thanks Andy, I remember that you were on the very first survey team for FSCSP when we started at the entrance and began the Main Corridor survey (see attached survey book cover)! So you helped start things some 46 years ago… Regards, John From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Andy Komensky Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 7:43 AM To: s...@caver.net Subject: [SWR] Fort Stanton Congrats to all of you who received the award. Proud to say that at one time or another I had the opportunity to cave with some of you and sorry that I never had the chance to meet the rest of you., Cave h, Andy ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
Re: [SWR] Fort Stanton survey book
Of interest is the "font" on that survey book cover. Carl, that was my old electric typewriter "font", the one we used when publishing two years of the Texas Caver in Dallas in the 60's. Katherine Goodbar and Jacquelyn Robinson alternated every other month in typing up each issue "full justified" on offset paper masters. As editor I typed up each month's issue first, putting in "" to the end of each line. Then on the 2nd typing, Katherine (or Jackie) would randomly put in extra spaces to full justify each line. I sure was glad to buy a "home computer" in 1979 with a word processor. And in 1986, Karen and I bought a Mac with Microsoft Word that wasn't limited to monospaced fonts. A long ways from typesetting in the mid 60's! Oh yes, we still are working on improving our cave survey technology. It helps to have a dust proof Disto that shoots 280 feet when doing long survey shots with precision sketching. - Pete On Jul 29, 2013, at 8:20 PM, Carl Kunath wrote: Time flies when you’re having fun. . . . That appears to be a good example of the survey book that was widely in use in Texas in the 1960s. I think it was a Pete Lindsley design. It became the official TSA survey book in hopes of promoting better uniformity in our survey techniques which were not all that good at the time. Getting all that information on the front cover was a huge step forward! ===Carl Kunath From: John Corcoran Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 3:44 PM To: 'Andy Komensky' ; s...@caver.net Subject: Re: [SWR] Fort Stanton Thanks Andy, I remember that you were on the very first survey team for FSCSP when we started at the entrance and began the Main Corridor survey (see attached survey book cover)! So you helped start things some 46 years ago… Regards, John From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Andy Komensky Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 7:43 AM To: s...@caver.net Subject: [SWR] Fort Stanton Congrats to all of you who received the award. Proud to say that at one time or another I had the opportunity to cave with some of you and sorry that I never had the chance to meet the rest of you., Cave h, Andy ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
Re: [SWR] Fort Stanton survey book
Of interest is the "font" on that survey book cover. Carl, that was my old electric typewriter "font", the one we used when publishing two years of the Texas Caver in Dallas in the 60's. Katherine Goodbar and Jacquelyn Robinson alternated every other month in typing up each issue "full justified" on offset paper masters. As editor I typed up each month's issue first, putting in "" to the end of each line. Then on the 2nd typing, Katherine (or Jackie) would randomly put in extra spaces to full justify each line. I sure was glad to buy a "home computer" in 1979 with a word processor. And in 1986, Karen and I bought a Mac with Microsoft Word that wasn't limited to monospaced fonts. A long ways from typesetting in the mid 60's! Oh yes, we still are working on improving our cave survey technology. It helps to have a dust proof Disto that shoots 280 feet when doing long survey shots with precision sketching. - Pete On Jul 29, 2013, at 8:20 PM, Carl Kunath wrote: Time flies when you’re having fun. . . . That appears to be a good example of the survey book that was widely in use in Texas in the 1960s. I think it was a Pete Lindsley design. It became the official TSA survey book in hopes of promoting better uniformity in our survey techniques which were not all that good at the time. Getting all that information on the front cover was a huge step forward! ===Carl Kunath From: John Corcoran Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 3:44 PM To: 'Andy Komensky' ; s...@caver.net Subject: Re: [SWR] Fort Stanton Thanks Andy, I remember that you were on the very first survey team for FSCSP when we started at the entrance and began the Main Corridor survey (see attached survey book cover)! So you helped start things some 46 years ago… Regards, John From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Andy Komensky Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 7:43 AM To: s...@caver.net Subject: [SWR] Fort Stanton Congrats to all of you who received the award. Proud to say that at one time or another I had the opportunity to cave with some of you and sorry that I never had the chance to meet the rest of you., Cave h, Andy ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
Re: [SWR] Fort Stanton survey book
Carl, Yes indeed, that was one of Pete Lindsley’s survey book designs which we used for the first few years of work at Fort Stanton Cave. Regards, John From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Carl Kunath Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 8:21 PM To: s...@caver.net Subject: [SWR] Fort Stanton survey book Time flies when you’re having fun. . . . That appears to be a good example of the survey book that was widely in use in Texas in the 1960s. I think it was a Pete Lindsley design. It became the official TSA survey book in hopes of promoting better uniformity in our survey techniques which were not all that good at the time. Getting all that information on the front cover was a huge step forward! ===Carl Kunath From: John Corcoran <mailto:john_j_corcoran_...@msn.com> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 3:44 PM To: 'Andy Komensky' <mailto:andru...@sbcglobal.net> ; s...@caver.net Subject: Re: [SWR] Fort Stanton Thanks Andy, I remember that you were on the very first survey team for FSCSP when we started at the entrance and began the Main Corridor survey (see attached survey book cover)! So you helped start things some 46 years ago… Regards, John From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Andy Komensky Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 7:43 AM To: s...@caver.net Subject: [SWR] Fort Stanton Congrats to all of you who received the award. Proud to say that at one time or another I had the opportunity to cave with some of you and sorry that I never had the chance to meet the rest of you., Cave h, Andy _ ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
Re: [SWR] Fort Stanton survey book
Carl, Yes indeed, that was one of Pete Lindsley’s survey book designs which we used for the first few years of work at Fort Stanton Cave. Regards, John From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Carl Kunath Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 8:21 PM To: s...@caver.net Subject: [SWR] Fort Stanton survey book Time flies when you’re having fun. . . . That appears to be a good example of the survey book that was widely in use in Texas in the 1960s. I think it was a Pete Lindsley design. It became the official TSA survey book in hopes of promoting better uniformity in our survey techniques which were not all that good at the time. Getting all that information on the front cover was a huge step forward! ===Carl Kunath From: John Corcoran <mailto:john_j_corcoran_...@msn.com> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 3:44 PM To: 'Andy Komensky' <mailto:andru...@sbcglobal.net> ; s...@caver.net Subject: Re: [SWR] Fort Stanton Thanks Andy, I remember that you were on the very first survey team for FSCSP when we started at the entrance and began the Main Corridor survey (see attached survey book cover)! So you helped start things some 46 years ago… Regards, John From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Andy Komensky Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 7:43 AM To: s...@caver.net Subject: [SWR] Fort Stanton Congrats to all of you who received the award. Proud to say that at one time or another I had the opportunity to cave with some of you and sorry that I never had the chance to meet the rest of you., Cave h, Andy _ ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
Re: [SWR] Fort Stanton survey book
Carl, Yes indeed, that was one of Pete Lindsley’s survey book designs which we used for the first few years of work at Fort Stanton Cave. Regards, John From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Carl Kunath Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 8:21 PM To: s...@caver.net Subject: [SWR] Fort Stanton survey book Time flies when you’re having fun. . . . That appears to be a good example of the survey book that was widely in use in Texas in the 1960s. I think it was a Pete Lindsley design. It became the official TSA survey book in hopes of promoting better uniformity in our survey techniques which were not all that good at the time. Getting all that information on the front cover was a huge step forward! ===Carl Kunath From: John Corcoran <mailto:john_j_corcoran_...@msn.com> Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 3:44 PM To: 'Andy Komensky' <mailto:andru...@sbcglobal.net> ; s...@caver.net Subject: Re: [SWR] Fort Stanton Thanks Andy, I remember that you were on the very first survey team for FSCSP when we started at the entrance and began the Main Corridor survey (see attached survey book cover)! So you helped start things some 46 years ago… Regards, John From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Andy Komensky Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 7:43 AM To: s...@caver.net Subject: [SWR] Fort Stanton Congrats to all of you who received the award. Proud to say that at one time or another I had the opportunity to cave with some of you and sorry that I never had the chance to meet the rest of you., Cave h, Andy _ ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
Re: [SWR] Fort Stanton
Wow, how cool is that that Andy was on the first survey in Ft Stanton so many years ago. Congrats to everyone for a well-deserved award. Anyone going to venture back east for Convention next week? Hope so as I'll be there on Vendors Row. Stop by, say hello, have a beer, buy some pots. Helps me get out to NM to go caving in the best caves in the world with the best cavers in the world!! Peter On Jul 29, 2013, at 4:44 PM, John Corcoran wrote: > Thanks Andy, > > I remember that you were on the very first survey team for FSCSP when we > started at the entrance and began the Main Corridor survey (see attached > survey book cover)! So you helped start things some 46 years ago… > > Regards, > > John > > From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Andy > Komensky > Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 7:43 AM > To: s...@caver.net > Subject: [SWR] Fort Stanton > > Congrats to all of you who received the award. > Proud to say that at one time or another I had the opportunity to cave with > some of you and sorry that I never had the chance to meet the rest of you., > Cave h, > Andy > p01.jpg>___ > SWR mailing list > s...@caver.net > http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr > ___ > This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
Re: [SWR] Fort Stanton
Wow, how cool is that that Andy was on the first survey in Ft Stanton so many years ago. Congrats to everyone for a well-deserved award. Anyone going to venture back east for Convention next week? Hope so as I'll be there on Vendors Row. Stop by, say hello, have a beer, buy some pots. Helps me get out to NM to go caving in the best caves in the world with the best cavers in the world!! Peter On Jul 29, 2013, at 4:44 PM, John Corcoran wrote: > Thanks Andy, > > I remember that you were on the very first survey team for FSCSP when we > started at the entrance and began the Main Corridor survey (see attached > survey book cover)! So you helped start things some 46 years ago… > > Regards, > > John > > From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Andy > Komensky > Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 7:43 AM > To: s...@caver.net > Subject: [SWR] Fort Stanton > > Congrats to all of you who received the award. > Proud to say that at one time or another I had the opportunity to cave with > some of you and sorry that I never had the chance to meet the rest of you., > Cave h, > Andy > p01.jpg>___ > SWR mailing list > s...@caver.net > http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr > ___ > This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
Re: [SWR] Fort Stanton
Wow, how cool is that that Andy was on the first survey in Ft Stanton so many years ago. Congrats to everyone for a well-deserved award. Anyone going to venture back east for Convention next week? Hope so as I'll be there on Vendors Row. Stop by, say hello, have a beer, buy some pots. Helps me get out to NM to go caving in the best caves in the world with the best cavers in the world!! Peter On Jul 29, 2013, at 4:44 PM, John Corcoran wrote: > Thanks Andy, > > I remember that you were on the very first survey team for FSCSP when we > started at the entrance and began the Main Corridor survey (see attached > survey book cover)! So you helped start things some 46 years ago… > > Regards, > > John > > From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Andy > Komensky > Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 7:43 AM > To: s...@caver.net > Subject: [SWR] Fort Stanton > > Congrats to all of you who received the award. > Proud to say that at one time or another I had the opportunity to cave with > some of you and sorry that I never had the chance to meet the rest of you., > Cave h, > Andy > p01.jpg>___ > SWR mailing list > s...@caver.net > http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr > ___ > This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
Re: [SWR] Fort Stanton
Thanks Andy, I remember that you were on the very first survey team for FSCSP when we started at the entrance and began the Main Corridor survey (see attached survey book cover)! So you helped start things some 46 years ago. Regards, John From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Andy Komensky Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 7:43 AM To: s...@caver.net Subject: [SWR] Fort Stanton Congrats to all of you who received the award. Proud to say that at one time or another I had the opportunity to cave with some of you and sorry that I never had the chance to meet the rest of you., Cave h, Andy ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
Re: [SWR] Fort Stanton
Thanks Andy, I remember that you were on the very first survey team for FSCSP when we started at the entrance and began the Main Corridor survey (see attached survey book cover)! So you helped start things some 46 years ago. Regards, John From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Andy Komensky Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 7:43 AM To: s...@caver.net Subject: [SWR] Fort Stanton Congrats to all of you who received the award. Proud to say that at one time or another I had the opportunity to cave with some of you and sorry that I never had the chance to meet the rest of you., Cave h, Andy ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
Re: [SWR] Fort Stanton
Thanks Andy, I remember that you were on the very first survey team for FSCSP when we started at the entrance and began the Main Corridor survey (see attached survey book cover)! So you helped start things some 46 years ago. Regards, John From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Andy Komensky Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 7:43 AM To: s...@caver.net Subject: [SWR] Fort Stanton Congrats to all of you who received the award. Proud to say that at one time or another I had the opportunity to cave with some of you and sorry that I never had the chance to meet the rest of you., Cave h, Andy ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
Re: [SWR] Fort Stanton Cave mapping continues
Thanks, Lee! On Apr 9, 2013, at 1:55 PM, Lee H. Skinner wrote: > Today's Ruidoso News has a great article about surveying in Fort Stanton Cave: > > http://tinyurl.com/c4nnwfa > > Two photos (click to enlarge) are included. > > Lee Skinner > ___ > SWR mailing list > s...@caver.net > http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr > ___ > This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET Steve Peerman "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did. So throw off the bowlines, Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." attributed to Mark Twain, but no record exists of his having written this. ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
Re: [SWR] Fort Stanton Cave mapping continues
Thanks, Lee! On Apr 9, 2013, at 1:55 PM, Lee H. Skinner wrote: > Today's Ruidoso News has a great article about surveying in Fort Stanton Cave: > > http://tinyurl.com/c4nnwfa > > Two photos (click to enlarge) are included. > > Lee Skinner > ___ > SWR mailing list > s...@caver.net > http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr > ___ > This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET Steve Peerman "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did. So throw off the bowlines, Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." attributed to Mark Twain, but no record exists of his having written this. ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
Re: [SWR] Fort Stanton Cave mapping continues
Thanks, Lee! On Apr 9, 2013, at 1:55 PM, Lee H. Skinner wrote: > Today's Ruidoso News has a great article about surveying in Fort Stanton Cave: > > http://tinyurl.com/c4nnwfa > > Two photos (click to enlarge) are included. > > Lee Skinner > ___ > SWR mailing list > s...@caver.net > http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr > ___ > This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET Steve Peerman "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did. So throw off the bowlines, Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." attributed to Mark Twain, but no record exists of his having written this. ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
Re: [SWR] Fort Stanton Cave Study Project receives national conservation award
EXCELLENT ! ! ! ! Carol From: Lee H. Skinner To: nmcaver list ; Lynda Sanchez Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 2:44 PM Subject: [SWR] Fort Stanton Cave Study Project receives national conservation award from the Las Cruces Sun-News: http://www.lcsun-news.com/las_cruces-news/ci_19139124 Congratulations to all of the hard working members of the project! Lee Skinner ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
Re: [SWR] Fort Stanton Cave Study Project receives national conservation award
EXCELLENT ! ! ! ! Carol From: Lee H. Skinner To: nmcaver list ; Lynda Sanchez Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 2:44 PM Subject: [SWR] Fort Stanton Cave Study Project receives national conservation award from the Las Cruces Sun-News: http://www.lcsun-news.com/las_cruces-news/ci_19139124 Congratulations to all of the hard working members of the project! Lee Skinner ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net
Re: [SWR] Fort Stanton Cave Study Project receives national conservation award
EXCELLENT ! ! ! ! Carol From: Lee H. Skinner To: nmcaver list ; Lynda Sanchez Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 2:44 PM Subject: [SWR] Fort Stanton Cave Study Project receives national conservation award from the Las Cruces Sun-News: http://www.lcsun-news.com/las_cruces-news/ci_19139124 Congratulations to all of the hard working members of the project! Lee Skinner ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://caver.net/mailman/listinfo/swr_caver.net