Re: [Texascavers] ...accident on rope
I rappelled, changed over and came back up once on the catwalk that Fritz mentioned, back around 1990. An Aggie caver, named Roger Sorrells, told me he had rappelled off of it back in the 80's. Why don't they let us have a Bridge Day.That would generate tourist dollars. David Locklear - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [Texascavers] ...accident on rope
One word, David: Lawsuits Mark -Original Message- From: David Locklear [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 4:56 AM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] ...accident on rope I rappelled, changed over and came back up once on the catwalk that Fritz mentioned, back around 1990. An Aggie caver, named Roger Sorrells, told me he had rappelled off of it back in the 80's. Why don't they let us have a Bridge Day.That would generate tourist dollars. David Locklear - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [Texascavers] ...accident on rope
You mean, they don't have lawsuits in West *byGawd* Virginia? Ted -Original Message- From: mark.al...@l-3com.com Sent: May 11, 2007 7:31 AM To: David Locklear dlocklea...@gmail.com, texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: RE: [Texascavers] ...accident on rope One word, David: Lawsuits Mark -Original Message- From: David Locklear [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 4:56 AM To: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] ...accident on rope I rappelled, changed over and came back up once on the catwalk that Fritz mentioned, back around 1990. An Aggie caver, named Roger Sorrells, told me he had rappelled off of it back in the 80's. Why don't they let us have a Bridge Day.That would generate tourist dollars. David Locklear - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com http://home.infionline.net/~tbsamsel/ - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [Texascavers] ...accident on rope
Spideyman don't need no stinkin rope. I have little rope experience but have done sky diving. This post relates to a particular bridge which would be ideal for rope or chute. Years ago (60's thru 80's) while driving to Big Bend and points west during daylight hours, friends and I ( yes, I had some) would always stop at the highway 90 Pecos River high bridge on the north side of the east entrance for a thrill. You could easily climb on the support girders beneath the bridge and access a cat walk which extended about half way across the bridge. It was safe unless you had vertigo or were deathly afraid of heights. One could look straight down into the river and surrounding cliffs. What a view and quite exciting as I have always liked heights. I forgot the height but it is up there. I haven't done this in at least twenty years as it is usually dark when I am passing through. If they could do so, by now I would imagine that the highway department has taken some measure to prevent people from accessing the cat walk. If not, try it the next time through and I know that you will enjoy it. Fritz -Original Message- From: Rick [mailto:r...@linenoise.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 6:28 PM To: 'Pete Lindsley'; 'Antonio Aguirre Alvarez' Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: RE: [Texascavers] ...accident on rope Back in the day I used to sneak around at night and go off of bridges in the city, what put a stop to it is one of my friends did a jump style (non aussie, just jump out from the bridge) rap with the idea of grabbing the rope then getting control, he almost didn't get it. -Original Message- From: Pete Lindsley [mailto:linds...@raytheon.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 6:13 PM To: Antonio Aguirre Alvarez Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] ...accident on rope I noticed the other day that all the REI handouts on ropes, harnesses, vertical gear, etc. have a new disclaimer that they do not support this style of Aussie rappelling and state that it is dangerous. A few years ago we had one of the local swat team members ask if it was OK if he set up next to our boy scout training session on the cliff. It looked like he knew what he was doing so I said OK. 10 minutes later out of the corner of my eye I saw him run down the 30 foot cliff Aussie style. That was interesting, but then a while later he had one of our scout leaders (who had never been on a rope before) give it a try. I tried it myself, once. But I wouldn't let anyone else in our group of 12-15 do it. In contrast, one of our guys accidentally kicked one of this guy's biners over the edge and it hit the ground 30 feet below, on what was probably dirt. He said not to worry about it and refused our offer to retrieve the biner. He was willing to do the Aussie rappel, but NOT to re-use a biner that may have had a nick on it. As far as I am concerned this style is only good for sneaking down the face of a building to take care of the bad guys as you look in the window from just above. - Pete Antonio Aguirre Alvarez wrote: what the f... was this guy trying to do? :( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0bI7GUJcEc Download Messenger. Start an i'm conversation. Support a cause. Join Now! http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGWL_MAY07 - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] ...accident on rope
I noticed the other day that all the REI handouts on ropes, harnesses, vertical gear, etc. have a new disclaimer that they do not support this style of Aussie rappelling and state that it is dangerous. A few years ago we had one of the local swat team members ask if it was OK if he set up next to our boy scout training session on the cliff. It looked like he knew what he was doing so I said OK. 10 minutes later out of the corner of my eye I saw him run down the 30 foot cliff Aussie style. That was interesting, but then a while later he had one of our scout leaders (who had never been on a rope before) give it a try. I tried it myself, once. But I wouldn't let anyone else in our group of 12-15 do it. In contrast, one of our guys accidentally kicked one of this guy's biners over the edge and it hit the ground 30 feet below, on what was probably dirt. He said not to worry about it and refused our offer to retrieve the biner. He was willing to do the Aussie rappel, but NOT to re-use a biner that may have had a nick on it. As far as I am concerned this style is only good for sneaking down the face of a building to take care of the bad guys as you look in the window from just above. - Pete Antonio Aguirre Alvarez wrote: what the f... was this guy trying to do? :( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0bI7GUJcEc Download Messenger. Start an i’m conversation. Support a cause. Join Now! http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGWL_MAY07 - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
RE: [Texascavers] ...accident on rope
Back in the day I used to sneak around at night and go off of bridges in the city, what put a stop to it is one of my friends did a jump style (non aussie, just jump out from the bridge) rap with the idea of grabbing the rope then getting control, he almost didn't get it. -Original Message- From: Pete Lindsley [mailto:linds...@raytheon.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 6:13 PM To: Antonio Aguirre Alvarez Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] ...accident on rope I noticed the other day that all the REI handouts on ropes, harnesses, vertical gear, etc. have a new disclaimer that they do not support this style of Aussie rappelling and state that it is dangerous. A few years ago we had one of the local swat team members ask if it was OK if he set up next to our boy scout training session on the cliff. It looked like he knew what he was doing so I said OK. 10 minutes later out of the corner of my eye I saw him run down the 30 foot cliff Aussie style. That was interesting, but then a while later he had one of our scout leaders (who had never been on a rope before) give it a try. I tried it myself, once. But I wouldn't let anyone else in our group of 12-15 do it. In contrast, one of our guys accidentally kicked one of this guy's biners over the edge and it hit the ground 30 feet below, on what was probably dirt. He said not to worry about it and refused our offer to retrieve the biner. He was willing to do the Aussie rappel, but NOT to re-use a biner that may have had a nick on it. As far as I am concerned this style is only good for sneaking down the face of a building to take care of the bad guys as you look in the window from just above. - Pete Antonio Aguirre Alvarez wrote: what the f... was this guy trying to do? :( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0bI7GUJcEc Download Messenger. Start an i'm conversation. Support a cause. Join Now! http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGWL_MAY07 - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] ...accident on rope
I smoked a burned line in my leather gloves one time going off the Gorman Falls cliff on a brand new rope. It was 3/8 ths inch Goldline. It pays to know your equipment ;-) - Pete Rick wrote: Back in the day I used to sneak around at night and go off of bridges in the city, what put a stop to it is one of my friends did a jump style (non aussie, just jump out from the bridge) rap with the idea of grabbing the rope then getting control, he almost didn't get it. -Original Message- From: Pete Lindsley [mailto:linds...@raytheon.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 6:13 PM To: Antonio Aguirre Alvarez Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] ...accident on rope I noticed the other day that all the REI handouts on ropes, harnesses, vertical gear, etc. have a new disclaimer that they do not support this style of Aussie rappelling and state that it is dangerous. A few years ago we had one of the local swat team members ask if it was OK if he set up next to our boy scout training session on the cliff. It looked like he knew what he was doing so I said OK. 10 minutes later out of the corner of my eye I saw him run down the 30 foot cliff Aussie style. That was interesting, but then a while later he had one of our scout leaders (who had never been on a rope before) give it a try. I tried it myself, once. But I wouldn't let anyone else in our group of 12-15 do it. In contrast, one of our guys accidentally kicked one of this guy's biners over the edge and it hit the ground 30 feet below, on what was probably dirt. He said not to worry about it and refused our offer to retrieve the biner. He was willing to do the Aussie rappel, but NOT to re-use a biner that may have had a nick on it. As far as I am concerned this style is only good for sneaking down the face of a building to take care of the bad guys as you look in the window from just above. - Pete Antonio Aguirre Alvarez wrote: what the f... was this guy trying to do? :( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0bI7GUJcEc Download Messenger. Start an i'm conversation. Support a cause. Join Now! http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGWL_MAY07 - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
