Re: [Texascavers] Ironite - Alternative
I don't want to know what they pour on railroad lines to keep the weeds from growing. I've seen them using burning petrolium (smelled like kerosene) down the Mo-Pac line in Austin. Is that what they use everywhere? Someone was/is a railroad tycoon/engineer/conductor here on texascavers (Gill Ediger I think it was). Maybe they can comment. I suppose the worst of it has become chemically inert over the years. Those spikes are bound to be safe by now? (I wouldn't lick them..well maybe for a small wager.) On 3/28/07, Daniel Hogenauer dhogena...@msn.com wrote: Ron asked, perhaps with drawbar in cheek, What am I supposed to do now, bury some old tractor parts? Well, what I did was to pick up discarded railroad spikes along the railroad roadbed and plant one with each shrub that needed more iron. I don't remember which they were, but it worked well, as I recall. - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] Ironite - Alternative
Go to a machine shop and take the small cuttings from the mill or lathe that usually get thrown away, it works great...and if they are small enough chips you can barely see them... Bill - Original Message - From: Daniel Hogenauer To: rcrutherf...@gmail.com ; Texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 3:21 PM Subject: [Texascavers] Ironite - Alternative Ron asked, perhaps with drawbar in cheek, What am I supposed to do now, bury some old tractor parts? Well, what I did was to pick up discarded railroad spikes along the railroad roadbed and plant one with each shrub that needed more iron. I don't remember which they were, but it worked well, as I recall. From: Ron Rutherford rcrutherf...@gmail.com To: S S back2scool...@hotmail.com, CaveTex Texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Ironite..good and good for you too! Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 15:04:23 -0500 But nothing makes them roses grow in calcium rich/iron poor soil like a good dose of Ironite! What am I supposed to do now, bury some old tractor parts to rust away in the dirt and provide that much needed iron for my plants?!? Now we've got greasy tractor parts leaching (who knows what chemicals that old tractor has spread over it's lifetime) gak into the water/soil. I guess without the Atrazine, the weeds will just take over anyway. How is it that those weeds grow so well in iron poor soil? On 3/28/07, S S back2scool...@hotmail.com wrote: Why I am glad you asked.. Ironite is obtained from the wastes of mining tailings and along with it contains a lot of heavy metals and arsenic. Although the mining companies have reported that such waste products are harmless for use in your backyard, I have serious doubts. They stated that it is even safe for rats, based on their toxicology tests and the form is not biologically active. Here's my unscientific concerns about using ironite. For one thing, I am a human being and not a rat. Then that stuff piles up in your soil and there is nowhere to go, keep using it and it will all add up. When young children play in the yard, they might play with the soil and some will put the soil straight into their mouth. Most likely it will ultimately leach down to into the water, perhaps not within my lifetime, but for future generations. No matter how safe the tests would state, no heavy metals added in my yard for me. I don't need to be convinced with a short term study on this, I am no longer touching that stuff. So if you enjoy Lead and Arsenic in your garden, lawn, and in the Aquifer then go for it. Otherwise...leave it on the shelf. Check the link below to the Lawsuit filled against the company.. http://www.envirolaw.org/poison.html - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com -- i'm making a difference. Make every IM count for the cause of your choice. Join Now. - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] Ironite - Alternative
You guys got me to remembering when my family moved into a new house in Snyder,Texas circa 1959. We planted a couple of peach trees in that alkaline soil. Around one of them we threw nails pulled from some salvaged lumber. That tree sprouted more branches and grew bigger than the other, that's all. Rick From: "Bill Bentley" ca...@caver.netTo: "Daniel Hogenauer" dhogena...@msn.com,rcrutherf...@gmail.com,Texascavers@texascavers.comSubject: Re: [Texascavers] Ironite - AlternativeDate: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 16:34:13 -0600 Go to a machine shop and take the small cuttings from the mill or lathe that usually get thrown away, it works great...and if they are small enough chips you can barely see them... Bill - Original Message - From: Daniel Hogenauer To: rcrutherf...@gmail.com ; Texascavers@texascavers.com Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 3:21 PM Subject: [Texascavers] Ironite - Alternative Ron asked, perhaps with drawbar in cheek, "What am I supposed to do now, bury some old tractor parts?" Well, what I did was to pick up discarded railroad spikes along the railroad roadbed and plant one with each shrub that needed more iron. I don't remember which they were, but it worked well, as I recall. From:"Ron Rutherford" rcrutherf...@gmail.comTo:"S S" back2scool...@hotmail.com, CaveTex Texascavers@texascavers.comSubject:Re: [Texascavers] Ironite..good and good for you too!Date:Wed, 28 Mar 2007 15:04:23 -0500But nothing makes them roses grow in calcium rich/iron poor soil likea good dose of Ironite!What am I supposed to do now, bury some oldtractor parts to rust away in the dirt and provide that much needediron for my plants?!?Now we've got greasy tractor parts leaching(who knows what chemicals that old tractor has spread over it'slifetime) gak into the water/soil.I guess without the Atrazine, theweeds will just take over anyway.How is it that those weeds grow sowell in iron poor soil?On 3/28/07, S S back2scool...@hotmail.com wrote:Why I am glad you asked..Ironite is obtained from the wastes of mining tailings and along with itcontains a lot of heavy metals and arsenic. Although the mining companieshave reported that such waste products are harmless for use in yourbackyard, I have serious doubts. They stated that it is even safe for rats,based on their toxicology tests and the form is not biologically active.Here's my unscientific concerns about using ironite. For one thing, I am ahuman being and not a rat. Then that stuff piles up in your soil and thereis nowhere to go, keep using it and it will all add up. When young childrenplay in the yard, they might play with the soil and some will put the soilstraight into their mouth. Most likely it will ultimately leach down to intothe water, perhaps not within my lifetime, but for future generations.Nomatter how safe the tests would state, no heavy metals added in my yard forme. I don't need to be convinced with a short term study on this, I am nolonger touching that stuff.So if you enjoy Lead and Arsenic in yourgarden, lawn, and in the Aquifer then go for it.Otherwise...leave iton the shelf.Check the link below to the Lawsuit filled against thecompany..http://www.envirolaw.org/poison.html-Visit our website: http://texascavers.comTo unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.comFor additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com i'm making a difference.Make every IM count for the cause of your choice. Join Now. - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com Watch free concerts with Pink, Rod Stewart, Oasis and more. Visit MSN Presents today. - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
