Re: [ot_caving] Gas mileage.
Both Volkswagen and Mitsubishi had a small diesel truck back around 1984. Mitsu's was available with real 4x4.They were hard to find. Does anybody know somebody who owned one? I believe they had a reputation for being slow, un-reliable and noisy. You certainly don't see them around anymore. I thought the diesel was supposed to last 500,000 miles if you took care of it? I am glad I don't own a diesel.I saw a pump 2 weeks ago that was $ 5 a gallon. Jim McLane owns 2 diesel 4x4 SUV's. A rare International Harvester Scout 2. The other is a giant Seismic Truck, that I think he drove to the 1964 Texas NSS Convention. That truck should be parked at a caver site somewhere and used as a flower garden decoration. I think that is what Jim has been using it for the last 10 years or so. David
Re: [ot_caving] Gas mileage.
VW Diesels have been on the US roads since about 1981 and getting around 40-45mpg the whole time. They have not been popular with the masses mostly because they are diesels (i.e. they smell, are noisy, vibrate, hard to find fuel, cost more, and are slow). In the recent years VW (and Daimler) have come out with electronic injection for these cars and they have seen good improvements on the acceleration end of non-turbo versions of these cars (and trucks) as well as improvements in emissions. The noise and vibration has been fixed (as it has in many newer cars and trucks) by general improvements in automotive built quality. As for caver folks driving these diesels, here in Austin, Walt Olneck drives an old 80's VW Rabbit, one of the San Antonio caver's has a new Passat station wagon. Also one of my relatives living in California has a diesel motor home (slide out wall and such) by Daimler and is getting just over 30 mpg in it, of course it does not have the over sized diesel like is found in US built trucks. Terry H. Fritz Holt wrote: I am switching this string to OT as Bill Steele reminded that it is a stretch to consider this topic caving related. The linear savings is a little deep for me but there may be a non-hybrid car or two that averages 40 mpg city and highway. I seem to have read recently that VW produced a small sedan, I believe a Jetta, with a small diesel engine that averaged at least 40mpg. How about it, David, am I remembering correctly? I don't consider a Smart for two a real automobile. Fritz - Give this to a friend: ot-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: ot-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: ot-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [ot_caving] Gas mileage.
Has anyone else suspended their disbelief long enough to look into some of this Water For Fuel business? The last one I looked at talked about 'using your battery to seperate the water into HHO which is THREE times more powerful than gasoline' I mean - I've been told I shoot ideas down before trying them - (physics classes aside) but does anyone actually believe you can get a net gain from recombining H2 and O after applying the energy to split them apart? Is this recombination in concert with gasoline supposed to make it feasible? I've even seen news reports about 'some great new inventor' using water for fuel. I think these reporters are amazingly not smart and gullible. I'd like to see some response to what others think about this hooey... -WaV On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 6:05 PM, Terry Holsinger tr...@sprynet.com wrote: VW Diesels have been on the US roads since about 1981 and getting around 40-45mpg the whole time. They have not been popular with the masses mostly because they are diesels (i.e. they smell, are noisy, vibrate, hard to find fuel, cost more, and are slow). In the recent years VW (and Daimler) have come out with electronic injection for these cars and they have seen good improvements on the acceleration end of non-turbo versions of these cars (and trucks) as well as improvements in emissions. The noise and vibration has been fixed (as it has in many newer cars and trucks) by general improvements in automotive built quality. As for caver folks driving these diesels, here in Austin, Walt Olneck drives an old 80's VW Rabbit, one of the San Antonio caver's has a new Passat station wagon. Also one of my relatives living in California has a diesel motor home (slide out wall and such) by Daimler and is getting just over 30 mpg in it, of course it does not have the over sized diesel like is found in US built trucks. Terry H. Fritz Holt wrote: I am switching this string to OT as Bill Steele reminded that it is a stretch to consider this topic caving related. The linear savings is a little deep for me but there may be a non-hybrid car or two that averages 40 mpg city and highway. I seem to have read recently that VW produced a small sedan, I believe a Jetta, with a small diesel engine that averaged at least 40mpg. How about it, David, am I remembering correctly? I don't consider a Smart for two a real automobile. Fritz - Give this to a friend: ot-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: ot-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: ot-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [ot_caving] Gas mileage.
I think this is CRAP, but apparently not everyone thinks so - http://www.gas4freebonus.com/?id=G5888003 -WaV On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 7:49 PM, Don Cooper wavyca...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone else suspended their disbelief long enough to look into some of this Water For Fuel business?