Re: [ot_caving] Re: [Texascavers] RE: Music in Caves

2008-07-13 Thread Don Cooper 
Bassist for the album "Zoot Alures" was a different guy than Zappa had back
when he recorded Bongo Fury, but Patrick O'Hearn wasn't his name. In 1975,
Zappa was still working with several of the original "Mothers" - but by
1978, he had basically alienated the Mothers and had put together a new
group of younger musicians for Zoot Alures (Richard Redus, Jeff Moris
Tepper,
Bruce Fowler  (Tom Fowlers
brother, who played bass on Bongo Fury), Eric Drew
Feldmanand Robert
Williams).
Perhaps the 'Zoot Alures' you mention is something other than the Album.
Patrick O'Hearn is very young compared to the Zappa camp - (his bio says he
was born in 1954)  It seems that he did some studio work with Zappa during
and after 1978.
Albiet - yes, I concur with what you're saying about O'Hearns deep cave
studio.

In a somewhat off coincidence though - Beefheart did an album in 1976 that
was never released - called "Bat Chain Puller".

-WaV


On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 2:08 AM, RD Milhollin 
wrote:

>  Naaa, it was Patrick O'Hearn.
>
>
>
> I was working off a mobile e-mail platform and didn't have access to the
> web when I posted before, but O'Hearn was the bass player for the "Zoot
> Alures" Zappa Band as well as for Missing Persons later. The 2008 Dallas
> performance of Dweezel's "Zappa Plays Zappa" tour opened with the title
> track. Here is a link to a P. O'Hearn Bio:
>
>
>
> http://www.musicianguide.com/biographies/1608003520/Patrick-O-39-Hearn.html
>
>
>
> Oh. The studio, it is apparently Deep Cave Studio (or records) and is in
> Bat Cave, NC.
>
>
>
> http://www.epinions.com/content_119979675268
>
>
>
> I gather that this period in O'Hearn's career is over, but perhaps he has
> some residual interest in caves,  perhaps he would be willing to perform in
> a cave for some regional gathering of cavers. I don't think the music he
> produces today would be likely to (literally) "bring the house down."
>
>
>  --
>
> *From:* Don Cooper [mailto:wavyca...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Saturday, July 12, 2008 6:36 PM
> *To:* rdmilhol...@charter.net
> *Cc:* Minton, Mark; o...@texascavers.com
> *Subject:* [ot_caving] Re: [Texascavers] RE: Music in Caves
>
>
>
> Ah yes, that would have been Don Van Vliet - otherwise known as "Captain
> Beefheart".
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Beefheart
> They recorded "Bongo Fury" in 1976 right here in Austin at the World
> Armadillo Headquarters.
> -WaV
>
> On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 2:13 PM, RD Milhollin 
> wrote:
>
> Definitely Wakemen, sans Yes. The album was recorded live, with a full
> orchestra if I remember correctly. I seem to remember he set out on a tour
> with the whole ensemble, but the costs were too great and it ended before
> schedule.
>
>
>
> Unrelated, I seem to have a foggy memory about a former sideman of Zappa,
> from the Bongo Fury (recorded in Austin, center of …) days who after going
> solo concentrated on mood music and established Cave Records somewhere in
> NC. This is a stretch, but I think his studio was in a real cave.
>
>
>  --
>
> *From:* Minton, Mark [mailto:mmin...@nmhu.edu]
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 10, 2008 4:42 PM
> *To:* texascavers@texascavers.com
> *Subject:* [Texascavers] RE: Music in Caves
>
>
>
> Gill,
>
>
>
> >The musical bill-of-fare was Jethro Tull's "Journey to the Center of the
> Earth"
>
>
>
>   I was a big Jethro Tull fan, but I've never heard of that one.
> Neither has  and <
> http://remus.rutgers.edu/JethroTull/disco.html>.  Maybe it was someone
> else?  Rick Wakeman of Yes had an album by that name.
>
>
>
> Mark Minton
>
>
>

RE: [ot_caving] Re: [Texascavers] RE: Music in Caves

2008-07-12 Thread RD Milhollin 
Naaa, it was Patrick O'Hearn.

 

I was working off a mobile e-mail platform and didn't have access to the web
when I posted before, but O'Hearn was the bass player for the "Zoot Alures"
Zappa Band as well as for Missing Persons later. The 2008 Dallas performance
of Dweezel's "Zappa Plays Zappa" tour opened with the title track. Here is a
link to a P. O'Hearn Bio:

 

http://www.musicianguide.com/biographies/1608003520/Patrick-O-39-Hearn.html

 

Oh. The studio, it is apparently Deep Cave Studio (or records) and is in Bat
Cave, NC.

 

http://www.epinions.com/content_119979675268

 

I gather that this period in O'Hearn's career is over, but perhaps he has
some residual interest in caves,  perhaps he would be willing to perform in
a cave for some regional gathering of cavers. I don't think the music he
produces today would be likely to (literally) "bring the house down."

 

  _  

From: Don Cooper [mailto:wavyca...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 6:36 PM
To: rdmilhol...@charter.net
Cc: Minton, Mark; o...@texascavers.com
Subject: [ot_caving] Re: [Texascavers] RE: Music in Caves

 

Ah yes, that would have been Don Van Vliet - otherwise known as "Captain
Beefheart".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Beefheart
They recorded "Bongo Fury" in 1976 right here in Austin at the World
Armadillo Headquarters.
-WaV

On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 2:13 PM, RD Milhollin 
wrote:

Definitely Wakemen, sans Yes. The album was recorded live, with a full
orchestra if I remember correctly. I seem to remember he set out on a tour
with the whole ensemble, but the costs were too great and it ended before
schedule. 

 

Unrelated, I seem to have a foggy memory about a former sideman of Zappa,
from the Bongo Fury (recorded in Austin, center of .) days who after going
solo concentrated on mood music and established Cave Records somewhere in
NC. This is a stretch, but I think his studio was in a real cave. 

 

  _  

From: Minton, Mark [mailto:mmin...@nmhu.edu] 
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 4:42 PM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] RE: Music in Caves

 

Gill,

 

>The musical bill-of-fare was Jethro Tull's "Journey to the Center of the
Earth"

 

  I was a big Jethro Tull fan, but I've never heard of that one.
Neither has  and
.  Maybe it was someone
else?  Rick Wakeman of Yes had an album by that name.

 

Mark Minton