texascavers Digest 27 May 2012 22:59:08 -0000 Issue 1558
texascavers Digest 27 May 2012 22:59:08 - Issue 1558 Topics (messages 20044 through 20053): Re: No Tile Roof for Me 20044 by: Fritz Holt Re: Poor little rattlesnakes 20045 by: Fritz Holt 20047 by: wesley s 20048 by: Andy Gluesenkamp 20051 by: R D Milhollin 20052 by: Arburn Don Northern Region Cave Closures 20046 by: Mark Minton my ex-Facebook 20049 by: Mixon Bill 20050 by: Stefan Creaser TSA Meeting Minutes 20053 by: Denise P Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: -- --- Begin Message --- Would you like a "Tile Roof"? I've always thought they were neat that can be found in Florida, California and Mexico. And then someone sent me this video of a re-roofing project. Don't know how they kept the workers at it!!! This clip will be enough to make you swear off of tile roofs the rest of your life! Bat infestation on a roof...oh god no! - Video Fantastica!<http://www.videofantastica.com/view_video/111489/> At least they probably don't have a problem with mosquitoes. --- End Message --- --- Begin Message --- I wouldn't think a wildlife foundation would find any variety of snakes to be undesirable but I do understand the human safety factor. Fritz (troublemaker) From: bgillegi...@gmail.com [mailto:bgillegi...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Gill Edigar Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 9:14 AM To: wesley s Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] FW: Poor little rattlesnakes At the Welder Wildlife Foundation headquarters (living quarters, lab and libraries, admin offices, etc) comprising an area of 5 or so acres they have a 4-foot high hog-wire perimeter fence with a 12 or 18 inch barrier of 1/2-inch hardware cloth (set into the soil a couple of inches) wired to to the bottom of the hog-wire around the entire perimeter. The hog-wire keeps the larger animals out of the compound and the 1/2-inch mesh keeps the majority of the rattle snakes out. Desirable snakes and other beasts are permitted inside the compound. --Ediger On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 2:13 PM, wesley s mailto:mudmal...@hotmail.com>> wrote: We have deterrents in place like chickens and a cat but they still come into our territory. Drawn no doubt by the abundant food and water. We gave the last snake a three strikes policy and after being hosed down and chased off twice it came back onto our front porch where it was dispatched. I would have relocated it were i home at the time but Alia did what she could. So far the rest have been more respectful of our boundaries. I say live and let live. They keep the mice down for us and that counts for something. Wes~ List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 09:05:06 -0700 From: andrew_gluesenk...@yahoo.com<mailto:andrew_gluesenk...@yahoo.com> To: o...@texascavers.com<mailto:o...@texascavers.com>; texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com>; mandy.h...@ers.state.tx.us<mailto:mandy.h...@ers.state.tx.us>; jennyh...@anthonytravel.com<mailto:jennyh...@anthonytravel.com>; bbat...@gmail.com<mailto:bbat...@gmail.com>; sashm...@sbcglobal.net<mailto:sashm...@sbcglobal.net>; samashm...@sbcglobal.net<mailto:samashm...@sbcglobal.net>; sdear...@townandcountryins.com<mailto:sdear...@townandcountryins.com>; hea...@satx.rr.com<mailto:hea...@satx.rr.com>; kittymr...@aol.com<mailto:kittymr...@aol.com>; janjanj...@aol.com<mailto:janjanj...@aol.com>; jim.sher...@ers.state.tx.us<mailto:jim.sher...@ers.state.tx.us>; j_e_wag...@comcast.net<mailto:j_e_wag...@comcast.net>; ka...@karenashmore.com<mailto:ka...@karenashmore.com>; badba...@sbcglobal.net<mailto:badba...@sbcglobal.net>; r_isaac...@sbcglobal.net<mailto:r_isaac...@sbcglobal.net>; fh...@townandcountryins.com<mailto:fh...@townandcountryins.com> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] FW: Poor little rattlesnakes Rattlesnake conservation is a tough row to hoe, period. Not a lot of fondness on the part of the general public for a creature that the Book tells us is the definition of evil. Andy Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D. 700 Billie Brooks Drive Driftwood, Texas 78619 (512) 799-1095 a...@gluesenkamp.com<mailto:a...@gluesenkamp.com> --- On Tue, 5/22/12, Fritz Holt mailto:fh...@townandcountryins.com>> wrote: From: Fritz Holt mailto:fh...@townandcountryins.com>> Subject: [Texascavers] FW: Poor little rattlesnakes To: "Off-Topic Texas Cavers" mailto:o...@texascavers.com>>, "TexasCavers" mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com>>,
texascavers Digest 27 May 2012 22:59:08 -0000 Issue 1558
texascavers Digest 27 May 2012 22:59:08 - Issue 1558 Topics (messages 20044 through 20053): Re: No Tile Roof for Me 20044 by: Fritz Holt Re: Poor little rattlesnakes 20045 by: Fritz Holt 20047 by: wesley s 20048 by: Andy Gluesenkamp 20051 by: R D Milhollin 20052 by: Arburn Don Northern Region Cave Closures 20046 by: Mark Minton my ex-Facebook 20049 by: Mixon Bill 20050 by: Stefan Creaser TSA Meeting Minutes 20053 by: Denise P Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: -- --- Begin Message --- Would you like a "Tile Roof"? I've always thought they were neat that can be found in Florida, California and Mexico. And then someone sent me this video of a re-roofing project. Don't know how they kept the workers at it!!! This clip will be enough to make you swear off of tile roofs the rest of your life! Bat infestation on a roof...oh god no! - Video Fantastica!<http://www.videofantastica.com/view_video/111489/> At least they probably don't have a problem with mosquitoes. --- End Message --- --- Begin Message --- I wouldn't think a wildlife foundation would find any variety of snakes to be undesirable but I do understand the human safety factor. Fritz (troublemaker) From: bgillegi...@gmail.com [mailto:bgillegi...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Gill Edigar Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 9:14 AM To: wesley s Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] FW: Poor little rattlesnakes At the Welder Wildlife Foundation headquarters (living quarters, lab and libraries, admin offices, etc) comprising an area of 5 or so acres they have a 4-foot high hog-wire perimeter fence with a 12 or 18 inch barrier of 1/2-inch hardware cloth (set into the soil a couple of inches) wired to to the bottom of the hog-wire around the entire perimeter. The hog-wire keeps the larger animals out of the compound and the 1/2-inch mesh keeps the majority of the rattle snakes out. Desirable snakes and other beasts are permitted inside the compound. --Ediger On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 2:13 PM, wesley s mailto:mudmal...@hotmail.com>> wrote: We have deterrents in place like chickens and a cat but they still come into our territory. Drawn no doubt by the abundant food and water. We gave the last snake a three strikes policy and after being hosed down and chased off twice it came back onto our front porch where it was dispatched. I would have relocated it were i home at the time but Alia did what she could. So far the rest have been more respectful of our boundaries. I say live and let live. They keep the mice down for us and that counts for something. Wes~ Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 09:05:06 -0700 From: andrew_gluesenk...@yahoo.com<mailto:andrew_gluesenk...@yahoo.com> To: o...@texascavers.com<mailto:o...@texascavers.com>; texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com>; mandy.h...@ers.state.tx.us<mailto:mandy.h...@ers.state.tx.us>; jennyh...@anthonytravel.com<mailto:jennyh...@anthonytravel.com>; bbat...@gmail.com<mailto:bbat...@gmail.com>; sashm...@sbcglobal.net<mailto:sashm...@sbcglobal.net>; samashm...@sbcglobal.net<mailto:samashm...@sbcglobal.net>; sdear...@townandcountryins.com<mailto:sdear...@townandcountryins.com>; hea...@satx.rr.com<mailto:hea...@satx.rr.com>; kittymr...@aol.com<mailto:kittymr...@aol.com>; janjanj...@aol.com<mailto:janjanj...@aol.com>; jim.sher...@ers.state.tx.us<mailto:jim.sher...@ers.state.tx.us>; j_e_wag...@comcast.net<mailto:j_e_wag...@comcast.net>; ka...@karenashmore.com<mailto:ka...@karenashmore.com>; badba...@sbcglobal.net<mailto:badba...@sbcglobal.net>; r_isaac...@sbcglobal.net<mailto:r_isaac...@sbcglobal.net>; fh...@townandcountryins.com<mailto:fh...@townandcountryins.com> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] FW: Poor little rattlesnakes Rattlesnake conservation is a tough row to hoe, period. Not a lot of fondness on the part of the general public for a creature that the Book tells us is the definition of evil. Andy Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D. 700 Billie Brooks Drive Driftwood, Texas 78619 (512) 799-1095 a...@gluesenkamp.com<mailto:a...@gluesenkamp.com> --- On Tue, 5/22/12, Fritz Holt mailto:fh...@townandcountryins.com>> wrote: From: Fritz Holt mailto:fh...@townandcountryins.com>> Subject: [Texascavers] FW: Poor little rattlesnakes To: "Off-Topic Texas Cavers" mailto:o...@texascavers.com>>, "TexasCavers" mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com>>, "'Mandy Holt'" mailto
texascavers Digest 27 May 2012 22:59:08 -0000 Issue 1558
texascavers Digest 27 May 2012 22:59:08 - Issue 1558 Topics (messages 20044 through 20053): Re: No Tile Roof for Me 20044 by: Fritz Holt Re: Poor little rattlesnakes 20045 by: Fritz Holt 20047 by: wesley s 20048 by: Andy Gluesenkamp 20051 by: R D Milhollin 20052 by: Arburn Don Northern Region Cave Closures 20046 by: Mark Minton my ex-Facebook 20049 by: Mixon Bill 20050 by: Stefan Creaser TSA Meeting Minutes 20053 by: Denise P Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: To post to the list, e-mail: -- --- Begin Message --- Would you like a "Tile Roof"? I've always thought they were neat that can be found in Florida, California and Mexico. And then someone sent me this video of a re-roofing project. Don't know how they kept the workers at it!!! This clip will be enough to make you swear off of tile roofs the rest of your life! Bat infestation on a roof...oh god no! - Video Fantastica!<http://www.videofantastica.com/view_video/111489/> At least they probably don't have a problem with mosquitoes. --- End Message --- --- Begin Message --- I wouldn't think a wildlife foundation would find any variety of snakes to be undesirable but I do understand the human safety factor. Fritz (troublemaker) From: bgillegi...@gmail.com [mailto:bgillegi...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Gill Edigar Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 9:14 AM To: wesley s Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] FW: Poor little rattlesnakes At the Welder Wildlife Foundation headquarters (living quarters, lab and libraries, admin offices, etc) comprising an area of 5 or so acres they have a 4-foot high hog-wire perimeter fence with a 12 or 18 inch barrier of 1/2-inch hardware cloth (set into the soil a couple of inches) wired to to the bottom of the hog-wire around the entire perimeter. The hog-wire keeps the larger animals out of the compound and the 1/2-inch mesh keeps the majority of the rattle snakes out. Desirable snakes and other beasts are permitted inside the compound. --Ediger On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 2:13 PM, wesley s mailto:mudmal...@hotmail.com>> wrote: We have deterrents in place like chickens and a cat but they still come into our territory. Drawn no doubt by the abundant food and water. We gave the last snake a three strikes policy and after being hosed down and chased off twice it came back onto our front porch where it was dispatched. I would have relocated it were i home at the time but Alia did what she could. So far the rest have been more respectful of our boundaries. I say live and let live. They keep the mice down for us and that counts for something. Wes~ List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 09:05:06 -0700 From: andrew_gluesenk...@yahoo.com<mailto:andrew_gluesenk...@yahoo.com> To: o...@texascavers.com<mailto:o...@texascavers.com>; texascavers@texascavers.com<mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com>; mandy.h...@ers.state.tx.us<mailto:mandy.h...@ers.state.tx.us>; jennyh...@anthonytravel.com<mailto:jennyh...@anthonytravel.com>; bbat...@gmail.com<mailto:bbat...@gmail.com>; sashm...@sbcglobal.net<mailto:sashm...@sbcglobal.net>; samashm...@sbcglobal.net<mailto:samashm...@sbcglobal.net>; sdear...@townandcountryins.com<mailto:sdear...@townandcountryins.com>; hea...@satx.rr.com<mailto:hea...@satx.rr.com>; kittymr...@aol.com<mailto:kittymr...@aol.com>; janjanj...@aol.com<mailto:janjanj...@aol.com>; jim.sher...@ers.state.tx.us<mailto:jim.sher...@ers.state.tx.us>; j_e_wag...@comcast.net<mailto:j_e_wag...@comcast.net>; ka...@karenashmore.com<mailto:ka...@karenashmore.com>; badba...@sbcglobal.net<mailto:badba...@sbcglobal.net>; r_isaac...@sbcglobal.net<mailto:r_isaac...@sbcglobal.net>; fh...@townandcountryins.com<mailto:fh...@townandcountryins.com> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] FW: Poor little rattlesnakes Rattlesnake conservation is a tough row to hoe, period. Not a lot of fondness on the part of the general public for a creature that the Book tells us is the definition of evil. Andy Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D. 700 Billie Brooks Drive Driftwood, Texas 78619 (512) 799-1095 a...@gluesenkamp.com<mailto:a...@gluesenkamp.com> --- On Tue, 5/22/12, Fritz Holt mailto:fh...@townandcountryins.com>> wrote: From: Fritz Holt mailto:fh...@townandcountryins.com>> Subject: [Texascavers] FW: Poor little rattlesnakes To: "Off-Topic Texas Cavers" mailto:o...@texascavers.com>>, "TexasCavers" mailto:texascavers@texascavers.com>>,
