[Therion] Using autonamed station named from PocketTopo sketches incomplex projects

2013-06-15 Thread Footleg
Hi Bruce,

Interesting observations on PDAs and where to store files. I was aware that
PocketTopo writes backup copies of the data file in use to the memory card,
but I thought it cleaned these up when you saved the file (or maybe it is
when you open a new file or close PocketTopo). I have never noticed my PDA
memory cards littered with back-up files. Just seen one instance on the
card when PocketTopo is running. So on that basis I assumed that the
auto-backup feature will only save you if PocketTopo crashes or the PDA was
destroyed (or battery ran flat) while in the middle of surveying. Once you
finish and close the project (or switch to a different file in PocketTopo
which I often do on a trip when working on large projects with several
areas active) then you lose any auto-backup of the file you were last
working on. If it is not on the memory card and the PDA then gets damaged
(in transit in the cave rather than while in active use) then you would
lose the data if only stored on the PDA internal memory.

I always take my cards out to copy data, but then my PDA is not sealed so
it is not a problem. Instead I use the PDA inside a waterproof Aquapaq case
which I can draw through but makes everything completely submersible (to 5m
it is claimed, but mainly I just wash it in a stream if too muddy).

I am working on a system to organise data for a larger cave, mixing
historical data and recent data. I'll try to document it once I have
determined that it really works. I have spent much more time working out
how best to do things than actually drawing anything yet, as I want to be
sure I am doing it right before spending the next few years drawing!

Footleg
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[Therion] How to mark station with labels and make them appear in plan and extended projection

2013-06-15 Thread Marco Menchise
Hello,
maybe it's a silly question, maybe not: It would be useful to have a
station point labelled with some text and get the label appear either in
plan than in extended projection.


I made many attempt to achieve this but I cannot see any label unless I
define a "label" point in 2 .th2 scraps (one for the plan, another for the
extended projection) and include them in the map. I know it is possible to
label a station in the centerline file but the label does not appear in
projections.

I was searching if there is any simpler way to get those labels visible
than defining 2 scraps.

Thanks,
Marco
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[Therion] Using autonamed station named from PocketTopo sketches in complex projects

2013-06-15 Thread Footleg
Having embarked on drawing up a larger cave system with data from various
sources, I discovered that PocketTopo sketches brought into the drawing
editor just get names local to that sketch (e.g. 3.3, 3.4, etc.) but my
project builds up the centreline from multiple centreline surveys. So the
actual name of the stations in my cave is like
3.3 at subsection.dataset.cavename

Thinking there must be a solution to this, I searched the wiki, and found
it (Thanks Bruce!). I can use the -station-names option on my scraps in the
sketch to say what the full name of the station should be. But my station
names do not need a prefix (it is already set from the xvi file by the
editor) and with a bit of experimentation I discovered that to omit the
prefix I have to put a pair of double-quotes as the prefix. This works, but
is there a neater way to do it?

e.g.  -station-names "" @ShortDryWay.swildons
means my station with -name 3.3 will be treated as
3.3 at ShortDryWay.swildonsin the scrap and this is what my station in
the complete cave centreline
data is named so it works. It just seems unintuitive to have to give a
blank prefix this way. Bruce's example also includes author and copyright
options on the scraps. How does Therion use these? Or are they just allowed
on the scrap options but not used in any generated output?

While reading Bruce's excellent advice pages on data structures I spotted
some places where more recent developments or ways I work make things
easier since the section was written. So I've added a tip on getting data
off PDA via memory card, and a link to Andrew's TopParser application to
this wiki page:
http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php/paperless#data_transfer_from_pockettopo_to_therion

Footleg
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