[Therion] Therion et al on Win 7 or 8.1

2013-12-04 Thread Bruce
I'm staring down the barrel of having to migrate away from Windows XP.



To help me get started on the decision making process, are there any tales
of terror or reassurance from the Therion family of application users with
Win7 or Win8.1?



To name a few applications that need to integrate well,  a text editor (in
my case Notepad++), Therion, Survex, PocketTopo, Topparser and Foxit or
Adobe pdf readers.



For example Michael had (has?) a problem where Win7 will not open thconfig
files from the os explorer window, whereas windows xp works fine.  I think
it gets stuck with wish84 as I mentioned on
http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php/windows



Bruce





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[Therion] Therion et al on Win 7 or 8.1

2013-12-04 Thread Xavier Pennec
Hi Bruce,

I am running Notepad++, Therion, Survex, PocketTopo, Topparser and Adobe 
readers in Win7 without problem.
It took me a while to find a workaround the problem with the config file 
but I finally found out that renaming the config file with a th 
extension (e.g. mycave.thconfig -> mycave_thconfig.th) was the solution 
as xtherion recognizes it as a config file and opens it automatically in 
the right config window.

I have no clue about Win8.1.

Xavier


Le 04/12/2013 08:26, Bruce a écrit :
>
> I'm staring down the barrel of having to migrate away from Windows XP.
>
> To help me get started on the decision making process, are there any 
> tales of terror or reassurance from the Therion family of application 
> users with Win7 or Win8.1?
>
> To name a few applications that need to integrate well,  a text editor 
> (in my case Notepad++), Therion, Survex, PocketTopo, Topparser and 
> Foxit or Adobe pdf readers.
>
> For example Michael had (has?) a problem where Win7 will not open 
> thconfig files from the os explorer window, whereas windows xp works 
> fine.  I think it gets stuck with wish84 as I mentioned on 
> http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php/windows
>
> Bruce
>
>
>
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[Therion] -- Re: Therion et al on Win 7 or 8.1

2013-12-04 Thread Martin Sluka

Dec 4, 2013 v 8:26 AM, Bruce :

> I’m staring down the barrel of having to migrate away from Windows XP.


My condolences.

Martin
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[Therion] Therion et al on Win 7 or 8.1

2013-12-04 Thread Footleg
I have been using most of those applications on Windows 7 on both 32bit and
64bit machines with no problems for several years. My recent upgrade of a
laptop to Windows 8 resulted in me being unable to run either Aven (the
Survex model viewer) or Loch. But the recent free upgrade to Windows 8.1
fixed both those issues for me (an some other graphics rendering
applications which had the same issue of crashing on launch). So now I am
seeing no issues with any of these applications on Windows 8.1 (32 bit) on
the laptop.

Footleg


On 4 December 2013 07:26, Bruce  wrote:

>  I’m staring down the barrel of having to migrate away from Windows XP.
>
>
>
> To help me get started on the decision making process, are there any tales
> of terror or reassurance from the Therion family of application users with
> Win7 or Win8.1?
>
>
>
> To name a few applications that need to integrate well,  a text editor (in
> my case Notepad++), Therion, Survex, PocketTopo, Topparser and Foxit or
> Adobe pdf readers.
>
>
>
> For example Michael had (has?) a problem where Win7 will not open thconfig
> files from the os explorer window, whereas windows xp works fine.  I think
> it gets stuck with wish84 as I mentioned on
> http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php/windows
>
>
>
> Bruce
>
>
>
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[Therion] Therion et al on Win 7 or 8.1

2013-12-04 Thread Footleg
I should add that I use the Sumatra PDF reader on Windows as it is the only
PDF reader I have found on Windows which correctly renders my Therion
generated PDFs without locking the file. So I can recompile my projects
without needing to close the PDF viewer and the PDF is refreshed in the
Sumatra window automatically, making for a much smoother workflow.

Footleg


On 4 December 2013 10:07, Footleg  wrote:

> I have been using most of those applications on Windows 7 on both 32bit
> and 64bit machines with no problems for several years. My recent upgrade of
> a laptop to Windows 8 resulted in me being unable to run either Aven (the
> Survex model viewer) or Loch. But the recent free upgrade to Windows 8.1
> fixed both those issues for me (an some other graphics rendering
> applications which had the same issue of crashing on launch). So now I am
> seeing no issues with any of these applications on Windows 8.1 (32 bit) on
> the laptop.
>
> Footleg
>
>
> On 4 December 2013 07:26, Bruce  wrote:
>
>>  I’m staring down the barrel of having to migrate away from Windows XP.
>>
>>
>>
>> To help me get started on the decision making process, are there any
>> tales of terror or reassurance from the Therion family of application users
>> with Win7 or Win8.1?
>>
>>
>>
>> To name a few applications that need to integrate well,  a text editor
>> (in my case Notepad++), Therion, Survex, PocketTopo, Topparser and Foxit or
>> Adobe pdf readers.
>>
>>
>>
>> For example Michael had (has?) a problem where Win7 will not open
>> thconfig files from the os explorer window, whereas windows xp works fine.
>> I think it gets stuck with wish84 as I mentioned on
>> http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php/windows
>>
>>
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion
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[Therion] Therion et al on Win 7 or 8.1

2013-12-04 Thread Wookey
+++ Bruce [2013-12-04 20:26 +1300]:
>I’m staring down the barrel of having to migrate away from Windows XP.
> 
> 
> 
>To help me get started on the decision making process, are there any tales
>of terror or reassurance from the Therion family of application users with
>Win7 or Win8.1?

I shall just point out that world's best-maintained cave-surveying
operating system is (IMHO) Debian, so if you have to change OS you should at
least consider that one.


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[Therion] Therion et al on Win 7 or 8.1

2013-12-04 Thread Wookey
+++ Footleg [2013-12-04 10:11 +]:
>I should add that I use the Sumatra PDF reader on Windows as it is the
>only PDF reader I have found on Windows which correctly renders my Therion
>generated PDFs without locking the file. So I can recompile my projects
>without needing to close the PDF viewer and the PDF is refreshed in the
>Sumatra window automatically, making for a much smoother workflow.
>Footleg

Did you try evince? That solves the Adobe locking problem, and I didn't
see rendering issues, but I've not used it seriously.


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[Therion] Therion et al on Win 7 or 8.1

2013-12-04 Thread Graham Mullan
I have been running Notepad++, Therion, Survex, PocketTopo, Topparser and
Adobe pdf readers on W7 for several years.

The only problems I have had are with Aven & that's down to that program not
W7. I have never had a problem with Xtherion not recognising thconfig files
without a name extension. 

I have run all of them under W8 as well, without issues, but haven't done so
since the W8.1 free upgrade happened last week, so I'll not comment on that.

Graham




[Therion] FW: Duff address

2013-12-04 Thread Wookey
+++ Bruce [2013-10-12 09:02 +1300]:
> 
> >>Every message to the list (that I send, and I presume it's the same
> >>for everyone else), gets this bounce.
> 
> >Nope.  I have never received this
> 
> Cancel that. I did just now!!
> "Your message was addressed to a nonexistent recipient."
>   for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 15:56:32 -0400

Who maintains the therion mailing list? This dead address
 is still sending bounces to anyone mailing the
list.

Please remove it.

Wookey
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[Therion] Therion et al on Win 7 or 8.1

2013-12-04 Thread Footleg
I did try evince. I think it was the one which struggled to render what I
wanted (limited zoom). Foxit locked files on Windows, but I don't think it
does on Linux?

Footleg
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[Therion] FW: Duff address

2013-12-04 Thread Ladislav Blažek
Hi, sorry, address removed. L.


2013/12/4 Wookey 

> +++ Bruce [2013-10-12 09:02 +1300]:
> >
> > >>Every message to the list (that I send, and I presume it's the same
> > >>for everyone else), gets this bounce.
> >
> > >Nope.  I have never received this
> >
> > Cancel that. I did just now!!
> > "Your message was addressed to a nonexistent recipient."
> >   for ; Fri, 11 Oct 2013 15:56:32 -0400
>
> Who maintains the therion mailing list? This dead address
>  is still sending bounces to anyone mailing the
> list.
>
> Please remove it.
>
> Wookey
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[Therion] Therion et al on Win 7 or 8.1 (Wookey)

2013-12-04 Thread Graham Mullan
Wookey wrote:
I shall just point out that world's best-maintained cave-surveying operating
system is (IMHO) Debian, so if you have to change OS you should at least
consider that one.


If cave surveying was all that I did, I would, but it isn't, so I can't.

Graham




[Therion] Therion et al on Win 7 or 8.1 (Wookey)

2013-12-04 Thread Ladislav Blažek
Even Windows are not my primary OS I can say that Win7 is much much better
system than WinXP. It is actually probably the best OS from Microsoft not
crippled by Modern (Metro) = Win 8.x. I have only positive experience with
Win7 32/64bit and therion stuff. I am big fan of free software and
GNU/Linux but it is still not 100% alternative to Windows/OS X on desktop.
L.


2013/12/4 Graham Mullan 

> Wookey wrote:
> I shall just point out that world's best-maintained cave-surveying
> operating
> system is (IMHO) Debian, so if you have to change OS you should at least
> consider that one.
>
>
> If cave surveying was all that I did, I would, but it isn't, so I can't.
>
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[Therion] Therion et al on Win 7 or 8.1 (Wookey)

2013-12-04 Thread Wookey
+++ Ladislav Blažek [2013-12-04 14:22 +0100]:
>I am big fan of free software and
>GNU/Linux but it is still not 100% alternative to Windows/OS X on desktop.

Which aspect do you find 'not 100%'?

Clearly this can be true if you have to use some particular windows-only
application (In my case I can only file expenses at work with IE due to
a crappy 3rd-party website design, and have had reason to run a windows
app once every couple of years for some reason or another - such as
demoing tortoisesvn use in a windows environment for cavers at hidden
earth this year, and running pockettopo)

But wine and virtual machines (virtualbox) take care of this nicely.

The point being that my life is a great deal more civilised running
GNU/Linux daily and digging out an instance of Windows occaisionally
when needed, than it would be the other way round. Obviously others
might make different choices, and I don't want to overdo the
prosletysing, but just wanted make clear that I can't agree with the
idea that it's not a viable alternative desktop OS.

Wookey
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