[Therion] PDF display
> But for A1 or A0 posters I give pdf files to the > print shop. As yet, as far as memory tells me (I have none to hand) they > look like the Acrobat rendition, but others may have different experiences > to me. It is usual for me to have difficulty with print shops having subtle problems with printing maps - areas in particular. Even when they display OK on screen. Adobe Illustrator I think is what they use. A solution I have used for small files is to convert to jpg. Large files crash any converter I have, so no overall solution other than to live in hope... Bruce
[Therion] PDF display
I see now why I did not upload the example source before. It was using a compiled Survex .3d file as the source of the survey station positions. I have sorted that out now, with the required fragment of the cave used in the example now included in the .th file. The example source project for my overlapping areas is now in a zip file linked from the end of that section on the wiki: http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php/contrib:externalviewers#examples_of_rendering_differences_between_pdf_viewers Footleg On 15 December 2013 22:57, Footleg wrote: > Ah, that makes much more sense. I'll see if I can find the once from my > examples. They will be somewhere as I never delete anything! > > Footleg > > > On 15 December 2013 21:54, Wookey wrote: > >> [bloody top-posters - rearranging to make sense] >> >> Footleg [2013-12-15 21:29 +] wrote: >> > Wookey wrote: >> >> On 15 December 2013 19:30, Bruce <[1]bruce at tomo.co.nz> wrote: >> > >> >>> [2] >> http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php/contrib:externalviewers#examples_of_r >> >>> endering_differences_between_pdf_viewers and the commentary above it. >> >> >> >> Bruce - that's a very handy page. But it's missing the test therion >> >> source you used to do the test. >> > >> >And as for the Therion source I used to render these, it would have >> been >> >whatever the current Windows executable was current at the date I >> put them >> >onto the wiki (the wiki history should be able to tell you that). >> >> You misunderstand. I don't mean the source code for there therion >> program, I mean the .th/th2/thconfig source used to generate the images. >> That's the bit that would make it easy for someone else to run the same >> tests. >> >> Wookey >> -- >> Principal hats: Linaro, Emdebian, Wookware, Balloonboard, ARM >> http://wookware.org/ >> ___ >> Therion mailing list >> Therion at speleo.sk >> http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion >> > > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mailman.speleo.sk/pipermail/therion/attachments/20131216/7d1ed06a/attachment.html>
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One thing more: I save rendered files as TIFF without compression. The reasons are - there is no problem to manipulate with gigabyte files today, the RIP (program to print) must raster the vector format or decompress the JPG file. TIFF file is more fast. To add appropriate ICC profile is necessary too. Many RIPs are able to work with RGB images without any problem, but use the sRGB rather than Adobe RGB. m. Dec 16, 2013 v 5:56 AM, Bruce : >> But for A1 or A0 posters I give pdf files to the >> print shop. As yet, as far as memory tells me (I have none to hand) they >> look like the Acrobat rendition, but others may have different experiences >> to me. > > It is usual for me to have difficulty with print shops having subtle > problems with printing maps - areas in particular. Even when they display > OK on screen. Adobe Illustrator I think is what they use. A solution I > have used for small files is to convert to jpg. Large files crash any > converter I have, so no overall solution other than to live in hope... > > Bruce > > ___ > Therion mailing list > Therion at speleo.sk > http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion Martin Sluka - Studio Sluka prodej Hahnemühle DFA tisk fotografiÃ, reprodukcà a volné tvorby Na Rovnosti 2692/21 130 00 Praha 3 tel.: +420 603513640 mail: martinsluka at mac.com web: http://www.piezografie.cz -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mailman.speleo.sk/pipermail/therion/attachments/20131216/d9228b8b/attachment.html>
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Photoshop - raster to image. I use it for years. Resolution depends on printer you will use: Canon and HP 300/600 dpi, Epson 360 dpi. Both for final size!. The reason is print in native resolution of printing head and don't make interpolations. m. Dec 16, 2013 v 5:56 AM, Bruce : >> But for A1 or A0 posters I give pdf files to the >> print shop. As yet, as far as memory tells me (I have none to hand) they >> look like the Acrobat rendition, but others may have different experiences >> to me. > > It is usual for me to have difficulty with print shops having subtle > problems with printing maps - areas in particular. Even when they display > OK on screen. Adobe Illustrator I think is what they use. A solution I > have used for small files is to convert to jpg. Large files crash any > converter I have, so no overall solution other than to live in hope... > > Bruce > > ___ > Therion mailing list > Therion at speleo.sk > http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion Martin Sluka - Studio Sluka prodej Hahnemühle DFA tisk fotografiÃ, reprodukcà a volné tvorby Na Rovnosti 2692/21 130 00 Praha 3 tel.: +420 603513640 mail: martinsluka at mac.com web: http://www.piezografie.cz -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://mailman.speleo.sk/pipermail/therion/attachments/20131216/d4b8b96f/attachment.html>
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Every time i want to print something in a "shop", I ask my printer witch Printer-profile he will use. May be "Forga" for example. Then I save my File from Adobe Indesign or Acrobat with this profile. And I will have no problems with the colors - normaly... Merry Christmas and a happy new year to all Greetings Markus -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: therion-bounces at speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces at speleo.sk] Im Auftrag von Graham Mullan Gesendet: Sonntag, 15. Dezember 2013 22:47 An: therion at speleo.sk Betreff: Re: [Therion] PDF display It's strange, but I thought that the whole point of pdf was that the document would present in identical fashion across displays and platforms. Has anyone tried printing from different rendering engines & seeing in what ways the results differ? Screen display is all very well, but if you are having printing done, especially by a print shop whose software you have no control over, how do you know what the results are going to look like before you have coughed up the (frequently not inconsiderable) price. What I do know is that if I export to jpg from, Acrobat then the results do seem to look the same as the Acrobat rendition & those are what get incorporated into journals. But for A1 or A0 posters I give pdf files to the print shop. As yet, as far as memory tells me (I have none to hand) they look like the Acrobat rendition, but others may have different experiences to me. Graham ___ Therion mailing list Therion at speleo.sk http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion
[Therion] PDF display
http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php/contrib:externalviewers#examples_of_r > endering_differences_between_pdf_viewers and the commentary above it. > Bruce - that's a very handy page. But it's missing the test therion source you used to do the test. If you could add that, then others could do other tests, on later versions, and on linux viewers, for example. Wooky, I think those are Footleg's examples. I put a complete sample dataset in http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php/examples#all_areas_all_symbol_sets some time ago. An example attached. It shows all areas (as at Nov 2012) overlaid with each other and various lines and symbols in each of the symbol sets - and labelled as well. It also indicates the drawing order. It is messier than Footleg's example, but perhaps more comprehensive. Bruce -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: AreasPlanMap-BCRA.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 256070 bytes Desc: AreasPlanMap-BCRA.pdf URL: <http://mailman.speleo.sk/pipermail/therion/attachments/20131216/af566f2b/attachment.pdf>
