[Therion] Help with an error

[Bruce Mutton]

> I do have a warning but I always get this on this particular Win 10 machine. 
> It's a windows thing I think, I just ignore it.
> warning -- can't open cavern log file for input

This just means that you do not have survex loaded on the machine that Therion 
is running on.

If you do, and Therion is set to use survex loop closure, you will get instead 
a section in therion.log that starts like this;

### cavern log file 
 1> Survex 1.2.37
 2> Copyright ¸ 1990-2018 Olly Betts
 3> 
 4> Survey contains 140 survey stations, joined by 139 legs.

etc

Bruce

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Re: [Therion] Help with an error

[עמרי גסטר]

Thanks for the expenation Martin,
now I know this.
this was done before anyone knew Therion...






On Tue, Dec 10, 2019, 8:58 AM Martin Sluka via Therion 
wrote:

> There is not a real join "end of a line" to "end of another line" (or
> point) in your map. Just two underlying passages.
>
> Command join works in this way: after it reaches end of first line wall in
> first scrap it will find the nearest beginning of another line wall from
> second scrap and connect them. And in case it is not the correct situation
> the result will be a mess. See that yellow line on attached image
> indicating the biggest warping (connecting ends of walls) the Therion had
> to do to join those two scraps.
>
> One must „construct“ map in Therion. Always to think about how all objects
> will be organized, positioned and connected on the final map.
>
> Martin
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 9. 12. 2019 v 23:25, עמרי גסטר :
>
> Yes! this is how it should be
>
> Thanks!
>
> but I don't understand, everywhere I read about joining project there has
> to be a join, how it works without it?
> why does it cause a problem?
>
> On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 12:04 AM Nick Bairstow  wrote:
>
>> It’s the join that’s messing it up. Comment it out.
>>
>> I changed the circular line type- pit to line type-wall-subtype  pit
>>
>> Not too sure if that’s what you intended but it’s getting better.
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Therion  *On Behalf Of * 
>> *Sent:* 09 December 2019 21:04
>> *To:* List for Therion users 
>> *Subject:* Re: [Therion] Help with an error
>>
>>
>>
>> by it's own it turns out fine, The problem is that this map needs to
>> connect to another map and the connection turns out completely distorted:
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> I thought it's because of this error because this is the only error
>>
>>
>>
>> I added the files of the other map and the master th file.
>>
>> hope you can understand why this is happening.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 10:52 PM Nick Bairstow  wrote:
>>
>> I get the same as Martin. I thought it may break the kml map output but
>> that is fine as well -with my coords-
>>
>> I do have a warning but I always this on this particular Win 10 machine.
>> It's a windows thing I think, I just ignore it.
>>
>> warning -- can't open cavern log file for input
>>
>> Also, I found this:
>>
>> https://www.mail-archive.com/therion@speleo.sk/msg02736.html
>>
>> Nick
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Therion  On Behalf Of Martin Sluka via
>> Therion
>> Sent: 09 December 2019 18:33
>> To: List for Therion users 
>> Cc: Martin Sluka 
>> Subject: Re: [Therion] Help with an error
>>
>> Not any problem.
>>
>> Therion from December 6th.
>>
>> Martin
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Re: [Therion] Help with an error

[Martin Sluka via Therion]

There is not a real join "end of a line" to "end of another line" (or point) in 
your map. Just two underlying passages.

Command join works in this way: after it reaches end of first line wall in 
first scrap it will find the nearest beginning of another line wall from second 
scrap and connect them. And in case it is not the correct situation the result 
will be a mess. See that yellow line on attached image indicating the biggest 
warping (connecting ends of walls) the Therion had to do to join those two 
scraps.

One must „construct“ map in Therion. Always to think about how all objects will 
be organized, positioned and connected on the final map.

Martin









> 9. 12. 2019 v 23:25, עמרי גסטר :
> 
> Yes! this is how it should be
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> but I don't understand, everywhere I read about joining project there has to 
> be a join, how it works without it?
> why does it cause a problem? 
> 
> On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 12:04 AM Nick Bairstow  > wrote:
> It’s the join that’s messing it up. Comment it out.
> 
> I changed the circular line type- pit to line type-wall-subtype  pit
> 
> Not too sure if that’s what you intended but it’s getting better.
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> From: Therion mailto:therion-boun...@speleo.sk>> 
> On Behalf Of  
> Sent: 09 December 2019 21:04
> To: List for Therion users mailto:therion@speleo.sk>>
> Subject: Re: [Therion] Help with an error
> 
>  
> 
> by it's own it turns out fine, The problem is that this map needs to connect 
> to another map and the connection turns out completely distorted:
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> I thought it's because of this error because this is the only error
> 
>  
> 
> I added the files of the other map and the master th file.
> 
> hope you can understand why this is happening.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 10:52 PM Nick Bairstow  > wrote:
> 
> I get the same as Martin. I thought it may break the kml map output but that 
> is fine as well -with my coords-
> 
> I do have a warning but I always this on this particular Win 10 machine. It's 
> a windows thing I think, I just ignore it.
> 
> warning -- can't open cavern log file for input
> 
> Also, I found this:
> 
> https://www.mail-archive.com/therion@speleo.sk/msg02736.html 
> 
> 
> Nick
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Therion mailto:therion-boun...@speleo.sk>> 
> On Behalf Of Martin Sluka via Therion
> Sent: 09 December 2019 18:33
> To: List for Therion users mailto:therion@speleo.sk>>
> Cc: Martin Sluka mailto:martinsl...@mac.com>>
> Subject: Re: [Therion] Help with an error
> 
> Not any problem. 
> 
> Therion from December 6th.
> 
> Martin
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Re: [Therion] Software issue

[Tarquin Wilton-Jones via Therion]

Gareth,

> Hi, looks like a bug. Could you please try latest dev snapshot, whether
> it fixes the issue?

https://therion.speleo.sk/download.php

See the links:

1. "Therion for Windows" - this is the main download that you will
probably have used.

2. "Development files: [...] current Therion for Windows." - this is the
one you should try (the one we were discussing today).


Tarquin
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Re: [Therion] silhouette of trees

[Tarquin Wilton-Jones via Therion]

> I found a page with many silhoutte of trees. You may use it as png files
> and placed them to final TeX output from Therion.
> 
> https://www.etsy.com/   find: trees-silhouette-vectors


Nice one. John was showing a nice method to trace over things, and turn
it into a point symbol, so you can place it where you need. Would work
well with those.
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Re: [Therion] Help with an error

[Nick Bairstow]

I get the same as Martin. I thought it may break the kml map output but that is 
fine as well -with my coords-

I do have a warning but I always this on this particular Win 10 machine. It's a 
windows thing I think, I just ignore it.

warning -- can't open cavern log file for input

Also, I found this:

https://www.mail-archive.com/therion@speleo.sk/msg02736.html

Nick


-Original Message-
From: Therion  On Behalf Of Martin Sluka via Therion
Sent: 09 December 2019 18:33
To: List for Therion users 
Cc: Martin Sluka 
Subject: Re: [Therion] Help with an error

Not any problem. 

Therion from December 6th.

Martin

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[Therion] Help with an error

[עמרי גסטר]

Hi everyone,
I need some help Identifying an "multiple scrap outer outlines not
supported yet" error.

I checked all of the lines for the right -outline definition and I am
running out of ideas for what's causing this problem...

the files are attached to this email

many thanks to you all!

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sis.th
Description: Binary data


sis-4p.th2
Description: Binary data
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Re: [Therion] Therion/loch crashes in sid (issue #158)

[Stacho Mudrak]

After investigation, I realized that even if OpenGL context is created for
pixmap rendering, printing from loch on my Linux machine actually does not
work.

So I have rearranged the code and disabled rendering to pixmap on Linux
completely. It seems to work using just screen OpenGL buffer for tiled
rendering (for big images).

If anybody is interested in testing, your feedback is welcome.

S.

On Sat, 7 Dec 2019 at 00:15, Olly Betts  wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 06, 2019 at 05:03:15PM +0100, Stacho Mudrak wrote:
> > If it is lxR2P.c what fails (it is off-screen rendering to pixmap - for
> > large renderings) then it should be quite easy to disable it. Could you
> > please somebody try to comment out following line (lxGLC.cxx:1938)?
> >
> > this->m_OSC->m_r2p = R2PCreate(w, h);
> >
> > then recompile loch and try whether it can start?
>
> Yes.  I've applied slightly more nuanced version of that (which tries
> to create the context, but on failure doesn't exit) and uploaded a
> new debian package to unstable.  This obviously isn't a perfect fix,
> but it beats loch being unusable, and if it was working for anyone
> before it should still with off-screen rendering.
>
> I've attached the patch I applied.
>
> Cheers,
> Olly
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Re: [Therion] Software issue

[Stacho Mudrak]

Hi, looks like a bug. Could you please try latest dev snapshot, whether it
fixes the issue?

S.

On Sun, 8 Dec 2019 at 11:39, Gareth Davies  wrote:

> All,
>
> I've bought a new touchscreen tablet running Windows10 with the thought it
> might make the drawing by up easier than on my old computer.
> I can't seem to get the software to load, I've enclosed an image of the
> screen error. I'm hoping someone here will have an idea what may be going
> wrong here.
>
> Best regards
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[Therion] silhouette of trees

[Martin Sluka via Therion]

Hi Tarquin,

I found a page with many silhoutte of trees. You may use it as png files and 
placed them to final TeX output from Therion.

https://www.etsy.com/    find: trees-silhouette-vectors

Regards

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