Re: [Therion] Splays appearing when not selected
In that case and if there is just one station in this wrong scrap, maybe inserting point dimensions with some reasonable -value [ m] over this station in the scrap should help to normalize these crazy heights. If there are no up/down data in the centreline, therion calculates up/down dimensions from shots from a given station. It is not a perfect algorithm and in your case, there is some issue. Placing a point dimension close to the station should override this calculation. HTH, S. On Mon, 1 Feb 2021 at 23:10, Benedikt Hallinger wrote: > It's hard to isolate. > > The structure is like this: > Hirlatzhoehle/Zubringer/, > where Zubringer contains more surveys. > Each folder has its own therion/ subfolder containing the therion > sources. > > If i do "source ../../../Hirlatzhoehle/therion/Hirlatzhoehle.th" the bug > occurs. > That command sources the entire cave. > > If i do source just the region with "source > ../../../Hirlatzhoehle/Zubringer/therion/Zubringer.th" (which contains > essentially the same maps and scraps!) the bug occurs. > I have no idea how to track this don further, since we already talk > about alot of data (2.4 km). > > > Am 2021-02-01 21:37, schrieb Benedikt Hallinger: > > I try to boil it down > > > > Am 2021-02-01 21:12, schrieb Stacho Mudrak: > >> Hmmm, even scraps extending far beyond a known station could cause a > >> problem - usually, it is the case with steep passages. In your case, > >> it looks like some outline problem. > >> > >> Are you able to isolate such scrap and send me some minimalistic > >> sample? > >> > >> Thanks, S. > >> > >> On Mon, 1 Feb 2021 at 20:10, Benedikt Hallinger > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Hi, thanks for responding, > >>> > >>> i have the problem only tested with the lox. > >>> The red box fits nicely my selected data. > >>> The survex file also is OK. > >>> > >>> Probably it's caused by artifacts, see screenshot. > >>> Thats an old bug, and caused by some scraps extending far beyond a > >>> known > >>> station (walls are marked unsurveyed). > >>> > >>> Am 2021-02-01 19:52, schrieb Stacho Mudrak: > Hi Beni, > > thanks for review. > > Are you having coloring problem with .lox file or .pdf map? > > I have tried on my dataset, but when I select whole cave - entire > color range is used - from magenta to red. > > When I select just a part of the cave, coloring changes and the > >>> whole > range is used for selected part. > > Does your red rectangle fit selected data or is it much bigger? If > >>> the > latter is the case, there must be some artifacts still remaining - > that were not removed with selection. Maybe some stations? Does > >>> this > problem remain also with aven .3d export? > > It would be great if we could find this bug before therion goes to > debian release. > > S. > > On Mon, 1 Feb 2021 at 10:17, Benedikt Hallinger > >>> > wrote: > > > Checked it, looks good for me (data selection, and pdf map > >>> printout > > with > > people showing up again), with one exception: > > > > - I source all of the cave's data. (ok) > > - Then i select jsut a part of it. (ok) > > - The lox output contains just the selected part (ok) > > - The altitude coloring is all the same, despite having > >>> significant > > altitude changes in the dataset. > > The reason seems to be that the coloring is done according in > > relation > > to ALL the cave, not just the selected parts - in comparison to > >>> the > > entire system the altitude difference is negligible, but i > >>> expected > > the > > lox to generate the altitude band according to the actual min/max > > values > > of the selected dataset. > > > > $ therion -v > > therion 5.5.6 (2020-12-27) > > - using Proj 7.2.1, compiled against 7.2.1 > > > > But: therion compile cdf201b5bf921 has the same behaviour. > > > > Am 2021-01-27 8:59, schrieb Benedikt Hallinger: > >> I just did apt-get update, and see 5.5.6ds1-5 > >> > >> That is the old version, right? I do wait for 5.5.6ds1-6 ? > >> > >> > >> Am 2021-01-26 16:16, schrieb Wookey: > >>> On 2021-01-24 14:40 +0100, Benedikt Hallinger wrote: > Wookey, when is this expected to appear in testing? > I would test it > >>> > >>> It's there now. > >>> > >>> Wookey > >>> ___ > >>> Therion mailing list > >>> Therion@speleo.sk > >>> https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion > >> ___ > >> Therion mailing list > >> Therion@speleo.sk > >> https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion > > ___ > > Therion mailing list > > Therion@speleo.sk > > https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion >
Re: [Therion] Splays appearing when not selected
On 2021-01-27 08:59 +0100, Benedikt Hallinger wrote: > I just did apt-get update, and see 5.5.6ds1-5 > > That is the old version, right? I do wait for 5.5.6ds1-6 ? No 5.5.6ds1-5 is the latest, including the fix discussed inthis thread. There isn't a -6 (yet) Wookey -- Principal hats: Linaro, Debian, Wookware, ARM http://wookware.org/ signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion
Re: [Therion] Splays appearing when not selected
It's hard to isolate. The structure is like this: Hirlatzhoehle/Zubringer/, where Zubringer contains more surveys. Each folder has its own therion/ subfolder containing the therion sources. If i do "source ../../../Hirlatzhoehle/therion/Hirlatzhoehle.th" the bug occurs. That command sources the entire cave. If i do source just the region with "source ../../../Hirlatzhoehle/Zubringer/therion/Zubringer.th" (which contains essentially the same maps and scraps!) the bug occurs. I have no idea how to track this don further, since we already talk about alot of data (2.4 km). Am 2021-02-01 21:37, schrieb Benedikt Hallinger: I try to boil it down Am 2021-02-01 21:12, schrieb Stacho Mudrak: Hmmm, even scraps extending far beyond a known station could cause a problem - usually, it is the case with steep passages. In your case, it looks like some outline problem. Are you able to isolate such scrap and send me some minimalistic sample? Thanks, S. On Mon, 1 Feb 2021 at 20:10, Benedikt Hallinger wrote: Hi, thanks for responding, i have the problem only tested with the lox. The red box fits nicely my selected data. The survex file also is OK. Probably it's caused by artifacts, see screenshot. Thats an old bug, and caused by some scraps extending far beyond a known station (walls are marked unsurveyed). Am 2021-02-01 19:52, schrieb Stacho Mudrak: Hi Beni, thanks for review. Are you having coloring problem with .lox file or .pdf map? I have tried on my dataset, but when I select whole cave - entire color range is used - from magenta to red. When I select just a part of the cave, coloring changes and the whole range is used for selected part. Does your red rectangle fit selected data or is it much bigger? If the latter is the case, there must be some artifacts still remaining - that were not removed with selection. Maybe some stations? Does this problem remain also with aven .3d export? It would be great if we could find this bug before therion goes to debian release. S. On Mon, 1 Feb 2021 at 10:17, Benedikt Hallinger wrote: Checked it, looks good for me (data selection, and pdf map printout with people showing up again), with one exception: - I source all of the cave's data. (ok) - Then i select jsut a part of it. (ok) - The lox output contains just the selected part (ok) - The altitude coloring is all the same, despite having significant altitude changes in the dataset. The reason seems to be that the coloring is done according in relation to ALL the cave, not just the selected parts - in comparison to the entire system the altitude difference is negligible, but i expected the lox to generate the altitude band according to the actual min/max values of the selected dataset. $ therion -v therion 5.5.6 (2020-12-27) - using Proj 7.2.1, compiled against 7.2.1 But: therion compile cdf201b5bf921 has the same behaviour. Am 2021-01-27 8:59, schrieb Benedikt Hallinger: I just did apt-get update, and see 5.5.6ds1-5 That is the old version, right? I do wait for 5.5.6ds1-6 ? Am 2021-01-26 16:16, schrieb Wookey: On 2021-01-24 14:40 +0100, Benedikt Hallinger wrote: Wookey, when is this expected to appear in testing? I would test it It's there now. Wookey ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion
Re: [Therion] Splays appearing when not selected
I try to boil it down Am 2021-02-01 21:12, schrieb Stacho Mudrak: Hmmm, even scraps extending far beyond a known station could cause a problem - usually, it is the case with steep passages. In your case, it looks like some outline problem. Are you able to isolate such scrap and send me some minimalistic sample? Thanks, S. On Mon, 1 Feb 2021 at 20:10, Benedikt Hallinger wrote: Hi, thanks for responding, i have the problem only tested with the lox. The red box fits nicely my selected data. The survex file also is OK. Probably it's caused by artifacts, see screenshot. Thats an old bug, and caused by some scraps extending far beyond a known station (walls are marked unsurveyed). Am 2021-02-01 19:52, schrieb Stacho Mudrak: Hi Beni, thanks for review. Are you having coloring problem with .lox file or .pdf map? I have tried on my dataset, but when I select whole cave - entire color range is used - from magenta to red. When I select just a part of the cave, coloring changes and the whole range is used for selected part. Does your red rectangle fit selected data or is it much bigger? If the latter is the case, there must be some artifacts still remaining - that were not removed with selection. Maybe some stations? Does this problem remain also with aven .3d export? It would be great if we could find this bug before therion goes to debian release. S. On Mon, 1 Feb 2021 at 10:17, Benedikt Hallinger wrote: Checked it, looks good for me (data selection, and pdf map printout with people showing up again), with one exception: - I source all of the cave's data. (ok) - Then i select jsut a part of it. (ok) - The lox output contains just the selected part (ok) - The altitude coloring is all the same, despite having significant altitude changes in the dataset. The reason seems to be that the coloring is done according in relation to ALL the cave, not just the selected parts - in comparison to the entire system the altitude difference is negligible, but i expected the lox to generate the altitude band according to the actual min/max values of the selected dataset. $ therion -v therion 5.5.6 (2020-12-27) - using Proj 7.2.1, compiled against 7.2.1 But: therion compile cdf201b5bf921 has the same behaviour. Am 2021-01-27 8:59, schrieb Benedikt Hallinger: I just did apt-get update, and see 5.5.6ds1-5 That is the old version, right? I do wait for 5.5.6ds1-6 ? Am 2021-01-26 16:16, schrieb Wookey: On 2021-01-24 14:40 +0100, Benedikt Hallinger wrote: Wookey, when is this expected to appear in testing? I would test it It's there now. Wookey ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion
Re: [Therion] Splays appearing when not selected
Yes, the scraps are like this (s=station:) [good scrap: s1 s2 s3] joined [bad scrap: s3 ..only walls] Am 2021-02-01 20:19, schrieb Martin Sluka via Therion: 1. 2. 2021 v 20:10, Benedikt Hallinger : Probably it's caused by artifacts, see screenshot. Thats an old bug, and caused by some scraps extending far beyond a known station (walls are marked unsurveyed). I had the same artifact when I created two overlapped scraps of the same part of passage referenced by the same stations. Martin ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion
Re: [Therion] Splays appearing when not selected
> 1. 2. 2021 v 20:10, Benedikt Hallinger : > > Probably it's caused by artifacts, see screenshot. > Thats an old bug, and caused by some scraps extending far beyond a known > station (walls are marked unsurveyed). I had the same artifact when I created two overlapped scraps of the same part of passage referenced by the same stations. Martin ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion
Re: [Therion] Splays appearing when not selected
Hi, thanks for responding, i have the problem only tested with the lox. The red box fits nicely my selected data. The survex file also is OK. Probably it's caused by artifacts, see screenshot. Thats an old bug, and caused by some scraps extending far beyond a known station (walls are marked unsurveyed). Am 2021-02-01 19:52, schrieb Stacho Mudrak: Hi Beni, thanks for review. Are you having coloring problem with .lox file or .pdf map? I have tried on my dataset, but when I select whole cave - entire color range is used - from magenta to red. When I select just a part of the cave, coloring changes and the whole range is used for selected part. Does your red rectangle fit selected data or is it much bigger? If the latter is the case, there must be some artifacts still remaining - that were not removed with selection. Maybe some stations? Does this problem remain also with aven .3d export? It would be great if we could find this bug before therion goes to debian release. S. On Mon, 1 Feb 2021 at 10:17, Benedikt Hallinger wrote: Checked it, looks good for me (data selection, and pdf map printout with people showing up again), with one exception: - I source all of the cave's data. (ok) - Then i select jsut a part of it. (ok) - The lox output contains just the selected part (ok) - The altitude coloring is all the same, despite having significant altitude changes in the dataset. The reason seems to be that the coloring is done according in relation to ALL the cave, not just the selected parts - in comparison to the entire system the altitude difference is negligible, but i expected the lox to generate the altitude band according to the actual min/max values of the selected dataset. $ therion -v therion 5.5.6 (2020-12-27) - using Proj 7.2.1, compiled against 7.2.1 But: therion compile cdf201b5bf921 has the same behaviour. Am 2021-01-27 8:59, schrieb Benedikt Hallinger: I just did apt-get update, and see 5.5.6ds1-5 That is the old version, right? I do wait for 5.5.6ds1-6 ? Am 2021-01-26 16:16, schrieb Wookey: On 2021-01-24 14:40 +0100, Benedikt Hallinger wrote: Wookey, when is this expected to appear in testing? I would test it It's there now. Wookey ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion
Re: [Therion] Splays appearing when not selected
Hi Beni, thanks for review. Are you having coloring problem with .lox file or .pdf map? I have tried on my dataset, but when I select whole cave - entire color range is used - from magenta to red. [image: image.png] When I select just a part of the cave, coloring changes and the whole range is used for selected part. [image: image.png] Does your red rectangle fit selected data or is it much bigger? If the latter is the case, there must be some artifacts still remaining - that were not removed with selection. Maybe some stations? Does this problem remain also with aven .3d export? It would be great if we could find this bug before therion goes to debian release. S. On Mon, 1 Feb 2021 at 10:17, Benedikt Hallinger wrote: > Checked it, looks good for me (data selection, and pdf map printout with > people showing up again), with one exception: > > > - I source all of the cave's data. (ok) > - Then i select jsut a part of it. (ok) > - The lox output contains just the selected part (ok) > - The altitude coloring is all the same, despite having significant > altitude changes in the dataset. >The reason seems to be that the coloring is done according in relation > to ALL the cave, not just the selected parts - in comparison to the > entire system the altitude difference is negligible, but i expected the > lox to generate the altitude band according to the actual min/max values > of the selected dataset. > > > $ therion -v > therion 5.5.6 (2020-12-27) >- using Proj 7.2.1, compiled against 7.2.1 > > > But: therion compile cdf201b5bf921 has the same behaviour. > > > > Am 2021-01-27 8:59, schrieb Benedikt Hallinger: > > I just did apt-get update, and see 5.5.6ds1-5 > > > > That is the old version, right? I do wait for 5.5.6ds1-6 ? > > > > > > Am 2021-01-26 16:16, schrieb Wookey: > >> On 2021-01-24 14:40 +0100, Benedikt Hallinger wrote: > >>> Wookey, when is this expected to appear in testing? > >>> I would test it > >> > >> It's there now. > >> > >> Wookey > >> ___ > >> Therion mailing list > >> Therion@speleo.sk > >> https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion > > ___ > > Therion mailing list > > Therion@speleo.sk > > https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion > ___ > Therion mailing list > Therion@speleo.sk > https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion > ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion
Re: [Therion] Splays appearing when not selected
Checked it, looks good for me (data selection, and pdf map printout with people showing up again), with one exception: - I source all of the cave's data. (ok) - Then i select jsut a part of it. (ok) - The lox output contains just the selected part (ok) - The altitude coloring is all the same, despite having significant altitude changes in the dataset. The reason seems to be that the coloring is done according in relation to ALL the cave, not just the selected parts - in comparison to the entire system the altitude difference is negligible, but i expected the lox to generate the altitude band according to the actual min/max values of the selected dataset. $ therion -v therion 5.5.6 (2020-12-27) - using Proj 7.2.1, compiled against 7.2.1 But: therion compile cdf201b5bf921 has the same behaviour. Am 2021-01-27 8:59, schrieb Benedikt Hallinger: I just did apt-get update, and see 5.5.6ds1-5 That is the old version, right? I do wait for 5.5.6ds1-6 ? Am 2021-01-26 16:16, schrieb Wookey: On 2021-01-24 14:40 +0100, Benedikt Hallinger wrote: Wookey, when is this expected to appear in testing? I would test it It's there now. Wookey ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion
