[Therion] new snapshot

[thierrygonon]

Hi all,

Just tried out this new version regarding the problem I mentioned 
yesterday... It works very fine !!

Thank you very much

Thierry

Martin Budaj a écrit :
> Hi all,
>
> new snapshot is available. Changes include:
>
> * Austrian symbol set is implemented (just use "copy AUT" in your
> layout to activate it).
> * New coordinate system OSGB:ST is added (Andrew, please test it -- if
> it works fine, we will include other squares as well)
>
> Other news is that after a spam attack we decided to change editing
> policy for wiki pages. Editing is now allowed only for registered
> users (some of the users are already registered; for those who are not
> we will publish registration instructions soon).
>
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[Therion] VTK export from Loch

[thierrygonon]

Thanks,

By DETAILED, I mean with all changes of direction of the shot : in my 
case, shots are simplified : instead of being smooth, they are roughly 
simplified by long perpendicular shots that doesn't reflect reality.
The problem you mention regarding large coordinate numbers is probably 
mine : my datas are in WGS84, that mean 7 digits for Egypt...
So, is next snapshot coming soon ???

Thanks,

Thierry

Stacho Mudrak a écrit :
> Well, what do you mean by DETAILED export? In general, it is a problem
> to export e.g. surface texture, but all other items should be exported
> as far as I know. There was a problem when using coordinate systems
> with large numbers, it will be fixed in the next snapshot by using
> binary VTK output format.
>
> Best regards, S.
>
> On 31 May 2010 16:12, Thierry Gonon  wrote:
>   
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm actually working on Egyptian data and I have the following problem : In 
>> order to make a detailed analysis, I'm using Paraview. So I export my loch 
>> file (from Loch) to VTK file format. It opens well in Paraview, but it's 
>> quite simplified... Is there a way to make a DETAILED export that can be 
>> read in Paraview ? I tried to change the extension of the loch file, but 
>> without success... Any ideas ?
>> Is there a way to access to some settings for this kind of export in Loch ???
>>
>> Thanks !
>>
>>
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[Therion] [therion]Loch compiling on Mac OS X

[thierrygonon]

Hi all, and specially Martin,

I'm trying to compile loch on mac osx, so I have followed your step by 
step on the wiki.
Compiling VTK goes without any problem... I've changed the loch Makefile 
in the way you present, but unfortunately, loch compilation failed !
I attach to the present message the log of loch compilation
(NB : I'm running Mac OS X 10.4.11 on an Intel Core 2 Duo)



Anyone can help ?? It's probably a dummy parameter that I have to 
change, but which one...?

Thanks

Thierry
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[Therion] Transparent map-images

[thierrygonon]

Yes, you can't have transparency in jpg format. Png accept it, as pdf, 
but pdf isn't supported in therion map editor...

Here's the way I'm working (a little bit trikky, but it works !) :
from therion, get the centerline trace, with station points, in pdf format.
Open it with Inkscape, and place your scans, redraw them, using Béziers 
curves
Save the file in th2 format (for this, download and install the 
extension made by Jürgen Bohnert : see 
http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php?id=inkscape).
Once you've done this, you will be able to open your vector file in the 
map editor, and to correct it as you want (change line type...)

Regards

Thierry

Charles Ghommidh a écrit :
> To my knowledge, there is no way to make a jpeg transparent. Use png 
> instead (if Therion support this format...)
>
> Regards
>
> CG
>
> Le 14 juin 09 à 12:03, Bruce Mutton a écrit :
>
>> Hi All
>> Michael and I are putting some large scanned map-images on our 
>> therion pdf plots, but near the point where they overlap, one always 
>> overwrites the other.  We’d rather they be transparent so one 
>> map-image can be seen through the other.
>>  
>> Will it help if I can figure out how to make the white background of 
>> the original scans transparent?
>>  
>> Does anyone have any tips for making the white area of a jpg or pdf 
>> image transparent?  I have access to Adobe Elements, but I’m not very 
>> good with it, and although there are instructions for doing this I 
>> didn’t have much luck comprehending what was required.
>>  
>> Regards
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[Therion] Loch Makefile

[thierrygonon]

Hi all,

after some changes in the general makefile (so that it tries to build 
loch), here's the result... (in the attachment).
I'm trying with latest version...

thierrygonon a écrit :
> Hi all,
>
> sorry for coming back on an old topic...
> I've installed vtk as described, and tried to compile latest therion, 
> including loch, with the indicated changes, but it doesn't work. In 
> the log file (see attachments), it seems that it didn't even try to 
> compile Loch... Any idea ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Thierry
>
> Martin Sluka a écrit :
>> This one according m.l. works too
>>
>> m.s.
>>
>> # PLATFORM MACOSX
>> CXX = c++
>> CC = cc
>> VTKPATH = /Users/confero_4/Development/VTKBin
>> VTKINCLUDEPATH = $(VTKPATH)/include/vtk-5.4
>> VTKLIBPATH = $(VTKPATH)/lib/vtk-5.4
>> VTKLIBS = -lvtkHybrid -lvtkImaging -lvtkIO -lvtkGraphics 
>> -lvtkFiltering -lvtkCommon -lvtkjpeg -lvtkpng -lvtkzlib -lvtksys 
>> -lfreetype -lGLU -lGL
>> POBJECTS = getline.o
>> CXXPFLAGS = -W -Wall -DLXMACOSX $(shell wx-config --cxxflags) 
>> -I$(VTKINCLUDEPATH) -Wno-deprecated -I/usr/X11R6/include 
>> -I/usr/X11R6/include/freetype2
>> CCPFLAGS = -W -Wall -DLXMACOSX $(shell wx-config --cflags) 
>> -I/usr/X11R6/include
>> LXLIBDIR = PLIBS = -lz -L/usr/X11R6/lib $(shell wx-config --libs 
>> --gl-libs) -L$(VTKLIBPATH) $(VTKLIBS)
>> POSTMAKE = cp -f ./loch ./loch.app/Contents/MacOS
>> STRIPFLAG =
>>
>> # PLATFORM ENDCONFIG
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[Therion] Loch Makefile

[thierrygonon]

Hi all,

sorry for coming back on an old topic...
I've installed vtk as described, and tried to compile latest therion, 
including loch, with the indicated changes, but it doesn't work. In the 
log file (see attachments), it seems that it didn't even try to compile 
Loch... Any idea ?

Thanks

Thierry

Martin Sluka a écrit :
> This one according m.l. works too
>
> m.s.
>
> # PLATFORM MACOSX
> CXX = c++
> CC = cc
> VTKPATH = /Users/confero_4/Development/VTKBin
> VTKINCLUDEPATH = $(VTKPATH)/include/vtk-5.4
> VTKLIBPATH = $(VTKPATH)/lib/vtk-5.4
> VTKLIBS = -lvtkHybrid -lvtkImaging -lvtkIO -lvtkGraphics -lvtkFiltering 
> -lvtkCommon -lvtkjpeg -lvtkpng -lvtkzlib -lvtksys -lfreetype -lGLU -lGL
> POBJECTS = getline.o
> CXXPFLAGS = -W -Wall -DLXMACOSX $(shell wx-config --cxxflags) 
> -I$(VTKINCLUDEPATH) -Wno-deprecated -I/usr/X11R6/include 
> -I/usr/X11R6/include/freetype2
> CCPFLAGS = -W -Wall -DLXMACOSX $(shell wx-config --cflags) 
> -I/usr/X11R6/include
> LXLIBDIR = 
> PLIBS = -lz -L/usr/X11R6/lib $(shell wx-config --libs --gl-libs) 
> -L$(VTKLIBPATH) $(VTKLIBS)
> POSTMAKE = cp -f ./loch ./loch.app/Contents/MacOS
> STRIPFLAG =
>
> # PLATFORM ENDCONFIG
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[Therion] DistoX and PocketTopo with Therion

[thierrygonon]

Hi all,

I should be interested too...

Thierry

Wookey a écrit :
> +++ marco corvi [2009-03-24 12:43 +0100]:
>   
>> On Tue, 2009-03-24 at 21:50 +1300, Bruce Mutton wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi there
>>>
>>> I have a Disto arriving hopefully in a few days, and looking ahead
>>> I’ve been tentatively trialling PocketTopo on my PC.
>>>
>>>  
>>>   
>> hi,
>>
>> also i have a distoX.
>> i am writing a program to use it with linux.
>> (the programs runs also on windows).
>>
>> export as therion, of course.
>>
>> anyone interested to alpha test ?
>> (cannot guarantee, but is should not damage your distox)
>> 
>
> John Pybus has a disto and no Windows machines so he will no doubt be
> interested...
>
> Wookey
>   

[Therion] Vercours 2008 conference

[thierrygonon]

Hi all !

I'm responsible of the sessions of Vercors 2008... In the database and 
cave inventories session, I have a proposal of Stacho Mudrak about 
Therion. For the other session, for example "Exploration and 
Expedition", I have nothing about Therion, nor mentionning it...
For the programme, we can't put it on line yet, as you can still send 
some proposal !

Thierry

Philip Schuchardt a écrit :
> That looks awesome!
>
>
> On Feb 6, 2008, at 8:01 PM, Wookey wrote:
>
>   
>> See http://vercors2008.ffspeleo.fr
>>
>> Has anyone volunteered to talk about therion or show off posters of
>> work done with it? I don;t see anything on the site yet but I suppose
>> the programme is not yet completed.
>>
>> I think someone should. Either the authors or a French speaker
>> (perhaps both?)
>>
>> I no-one else is volunteering I could be persuaded.
>>
>> Wookey
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[Therion] Compiling on Mac Intel

[thierrygonon]

It's a message during the compilation. I think it should be in the 
macosx config that it is precised, let's say "PowerPC" instead of being 
opened to PowerPC and Intel processor...

Thanks

Thierry

Stacho Mudrak a écrit :
> Hmmm, no idea - but it is certainly not due to CPU - I have linux with 
> Intel Core 2 Duo and it works.  Is it a message of compiler or already 
> therion application?
>
> Regards, S.
>
> thierrygonon wrote:
>   
>> Hi everybody,
>>
>> I'm trying to compile the latest therion source on a Mac Intel Core 2 
>> Duo, running OS V 10.4.10
>> It doesn't work, saying "wrong cpu type", (I used the make config-macosx 
>> command).
>> How can I solve the problem...?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Thierry
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[Therion] Compiling on Mac Intel

[thierrygonon]

Hi everybody,

I'm trying to compile the latest therion source on a Mac Intel Core 2 
Duo, running OS V 10.4.10
It doesn't work, saying "wrong cpu type", (I used the make config-macosx 
command).
How can I solve the problem...?

Thanks

Thierry

[Therion] Elevation

[thierrygonon]

Thanks for your answers !!
I just tried "extend ignore", but it didn't produced any significant 
results : the elevation remains the same !!
So it seems to be deprecated...

Thanks

Thierry

Roman Muñoz a écrit :
> May be I'm wrong, but, may be "extend ignore could do the trick)
>
> Or is it deprecated?
>
> Cheers
> Roman
>
> Stacho Mudrak escribió:
>   
>>> I have just a quick question : on a survey, I have some measures between 
>>> stations that are perpendicular to the main axis, so I don't want them 
>>> to appear on the extended elevation... Can I precise it, with an 
>>> argument such as "extended no" or do I have to use the elevation tool ??
>>>   
>> Unfortunately, there is no "extended no" argument right now. If you 
>> export extended elevation from centerline, all shots/stations are shown. 
>> I will add it to the TODO list.
>>
>> Thanks, S.
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[Therion] Elevation

[thierrygonon]

Hi everyone,

I have just a quick question : on a survey, I have some measures between 
stations that are perpendicular to the main axis, so I don't want them 
to appear on the extended elevation... Can I precise it, with an 
argument such as "extended no" or do I have to use the elevation tool ??

Thank you very much for your answers !

Thierry

[Therion] Vercors 2008

[thierrygonon]

OK, I agree with all current comments. I didn't know your project 
before, Julian ! It's quite nice and working well. May be one thing I 
can point out is that the datas stored about caves are not many... You 
only have coordinates ? I think that maybe we can add other levels of 
information, for people who want to add them. But clearly, your work is 
great and a very very good base of work !!!
About Eric comments : I think that we can try to make the discussion 
very widely, including other softwares... We should organize a contest 
of Computer Aided Caving Surveys... However, the question here was to 
know if there is a dynamic to organize such a wide meeting about survey 
softs !!
I know people are interested and I will try to define more precisely the 
programm and make a call for presentation for a wide community (not only 
therion one !!)

Thierry

Julian Todd a écrit :
> thierrygonon wrote:
>   
>> I plan to make a full day of presentation and after 
>> that, a half-day round-table about CAVE INVENTORIES : I'd like to put on 
>> paper some general guidelines for european inventories, so that we can 
>> find on every national inventories in Europe some common features, at 
>> the same (top) level of records...
>>   
>> 
>
> Well, there's no point in waiting two years to do something.  If I may 
> make an observation that no inventory can work unless it actually does 
> something -- you have to get rewarded for putting something into it  
> because we can't punish people for not putting data into it.  Here's a 
> contribution to the effort:
>
>http://seagrass.goatchurch.org.uk/~mjg/cgi-bin/map.py
>
>
> All you need to post on the web is a location, scale, orientation and 
> bitmap of a survey of whatever (low) quality you are comfortable with 
> that doesn't infringe on your control of the data, and it can be seen in 
> the global geographical context on any cave portal someone chooses to 
> write (not necessarily on my own server).  This would form the backbone 
> of any cave inventory, and you guys can start adding a few examples to 
> it now. 
>
>
> Only after you've gathered some material examples from around the world, 
> and shown that there is a method of engaging people in the project, is 
> it worth doing a meeting to make it better organized. 
>
>
> Julian T.
>
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[Therion] Vercors 2008

[thierrygonon]

Well, so here's my summary of the talks of this week : we can make a 
general discussion about cave surveys softwares (for example in the 
karst and cave inventory session already planned (with nothing inside 
and which I'm responsible for)) and after that, we propose to make a 
2-levels workshop : for beginners or new users ; for advanced users and 
developpers. I propose that the second workshop take place AFTER the 
beginner's one, to take the advantage of the discussion of this first one.
Now, the problem is to know the SIZE of our workshops. For the session, 
I think it's OK. I plan to make a full day of presentation and after 
that, a half-day round-table about CAVE INVENTORIES : I'd like to put on 
paper some general guidelines for european inventories, so that we can 
find on every national inventories in Europe some common features, at 
the same (top) level of records...
For the workshops, the problem I know is that we don't have a lot of big 
rooms in Lans (Eric, it's in *Lans en Vercors*, not in La Chapelle)... 
And at the same time, it's not easy to make a workshop with a lot of 
persons. So it could be better to organize 2 level 1 workshops (one in 
the morning, the second in the afternoon) with maybe 20 persons. I think 
it could be better if the persons interested could register, to know how 
many persons will come (register directly at Vercors 2008 to me, and 
just after the general presentations). Do we ask the persons who will 
come to come with their laptop ?? Maybe 2 persons can work on one laptop ?
For this first workshop, we could prepare a liveCD with a Linux and 
therion (last version) for the people who doesn't have therion 
installed... If someone know how to make such a LiveCD...?
For the second workshop, I think we could register directly on this list !

So, that will be this in my opinion :
Day 1 : (all day) General session about karst and cave inventories and 
survey softs (not only therion...)

Day 2 : (morning) Round-table about cave inventories
 (morning) Therion workshop (level 1)

 (afternoon) Therion workshop (level 1)

Day 3 : (morning) Therion workshop (level 2)

Any comments are welcome of course 

Thierry

Olly Betts a écrit :
> On Fri, Feb 23, 2007 at 02:14:23PM +0100, Eric Madelaine, INRIA wrote:
>   
>> Does not change the requirements, we have to provide practical info to 
>> the organizers. I think it is important that the workshop should be 
>> explicitely in the Congres program, both for visibility reasons and for 
>> practical reasons (no way to find a room in La Chapelle by ourself at 
>> that time).
>> 
>
> Well, I'd certainly like to come along, and I'm probably up for giving
> some sort of talk or presentation if I do.
>
> Cheers,
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[Therion] Vercors 2008

[thierrygonon]

I will take more time tomorrow to make detailed replies to this subject, 
and make a point of what we want to make during this event...
I will have more time tomorrow (doesn't it, Eric ?)!!

Thierry

Martin Sluka a écrit :
>> On 23.2.2007, at 13:56, Eric Madelaine, INRIA wrote:
>> Sorry Martin, are you now speaking of the London Meeting, or of the
>> Vercors UIS Congress ?
>> We should change the title of this thread.
>> 
>
> I apologize myself - there is subject "Re: [Therion] Meeting in  
> London?... Vercors 2008", so my meaning was it is about Vercors.
>
>   
>> I guess it is Vercors you had in mind. So what I know for sure is that
>> there is already one half day slot allocated for a survey, with at  
>> least
>> people from Toporobot.
>> In any case, we need to gather enough information on people interested
>> to present something on the various subjects already mentionned, and
>> provide the organizers with our requests, including:
>> - number (and duration) of presentations
>> - size of the planned attendance (= size of the room)
>> - requested equipement: computers, videopro, walls or grids for
>> expositions (linear ?)
>> - etc
>> 
>
> No, my meaning of point 2 was not only the presentation of something,  
> but real workshop for probably more than one day to exchange  
> experience with using computer assisted cave cartography.
>
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[Therion] Meeting in London?... Vercors 2008

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Wookey a écrit :
> On 2007-02-21 17:16 +0100, thierrygonon wrote:
>   
>> Martin Sluka a écrit :
>> 
>>> What to make (or named it as) a "Workshop of Therion"?
>>>   
>
> That is perhaps a little too specific. I would prefer a 'digital cave
> drawings' session so we can exchange ideas with people using other
> software and techniques.
>
>   
>>> On 21.2.2007, at 16:56, thierrygonon wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
>>>> During
>>>> this congress, there will be a session about "Karst Data Bases & Caves
>>>> Inventories", and I will organize it
>>>> 
>
> I didn't know there was a euro spelo congress in the vercours, no. I
> would like to come if there is going to be a good surveying session. I
> have to see how my holidays are arranged to see if this is possible.
>
> Wookey
>   
I think that all together, we could make a very good surveying session : 
we have more than one year to prepare it !!

Thierry

[Therion] Meeting in London?... Vercors 2008

[thierrygonon]

Martin Sluka a écrit :
> What to make (or named it as) a "Workshop of Therion"?
>
> m.
>
> On 21.2.2007, at 16:56, thierrygonon wrote:
>
>   
>> During
>> this congress, there will be a session about "Karst Data Bases & Caves
>> Inventories", and I will organize it
>> 
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It would be a great idea, but in this case, we will need to know the 
needs... For example, do we need computers, and how many (or people 
interested brings their own computer) ? How many people (for the size of 
the room)
We will have our next meeting at the end of August, so we should have a 
detailed plan for that for this time, and this list could be a good 
place for discussion !!

Thierry

[Therion] Meeting in London?... Vercors 2008

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Wolfgang Zillig a écrit :
>> On 2007-02-20 15:00 +0100, Martin Budaj wrote:
>>   
>> 
>>> I'll stay in London on March 30 -- April 2. If anybody would like to
>>> discuss Therion and its future, we could arrange a meeting one
>>> evening.
>>> 
>>>   
> I would like to come, but I have no time that weekend ;-((
>
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Hi all,

I won't be able
 to come to London on these days... unfortunately !

But... as you might know, at the end of August 2008, the European 
congress of Speleology will take place in the Vercors mountains. During 
this congress, there will be a session about "Karst Data Bases & Caves 
Inventories", and I will organize it (it's not yet written like this on 
the site, but it will soon be updated !). I think that we should 
organize a meeting during this event... We could make a general 
presentation to everybody (with some examples of work), and after that, 
organize a meeting between programmers, users, and newbies if there are 
some interested after our presentation...
Any proposal welcome !!

Thierry
thierrygonon at mac.com

[Therion] therion and DEMs

[thierrygonon]

Hi Wolfgang,

I'm using the Nasa SRTM DEMs, with the 90m precision. I've also used the 
functions that allows the transformation of vector level lines in DEMs, 
so that I can visualize them through nviz (include in GRASS) or Paraview 
(own installation). To import therion datas, I export them from therion 
in SQL format, but it only delivers the axis points... I still didn't 
try the new feature (ESRI Shapefile export)...

Thierry

[Therion] therion by examples

[thierrygonon]

I've put in the *FRENCH* section of wiki (I'm planning a translation, 
one day !!) about integration of Therion datas in OpenSource GIS, in 
this case, GRASS, and DEM use... If Wolfgang want some help...
I could help Marco, but don't have many time !!

Thierry

Wolfgang Zillig a écrit :
> I could add a passage about digital elevation models (DEM) and 
> airophotos, coordinate systems and transformations. But I'm not an 
> expert in these things, I just use some tools to do that ;-)
>
> Wolfgang
>
> marco corvi schrieb:
>   
>> hi,
>>
>> with the new version of therion out there, i realized that
>> "therion by examples" as it is on the wiki, is getting outdated,
>> and it is less and less useful.
>>
>> i would like to bring it up to the novelties of therion 0.5.0
>> (and beyond).
>>
>> i have been keeping a "personal" version of tbe, more uptodate,
>> but it diverged from the wiki, because i did not have the time
>> nor the patience to keep them aligned,
>> and, above all, i can work on it mostly offline.
>>
>> now i would like to bring them together.
>> any suggestion ?
>> anyone willing to help ?
>>
>> thanks, marco 
>>
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[Therion] Compiling the latest source on Mac OS X

[thierrygonon]

Hello,

I've just downloaded the latest version of therion (0.4.1, dev. snapshot 
of 2006_10_12).
When I compile these sources, everything goes OK till it starts to 
compile loch, the new 3D viewer... The problem mainly seems to be in 
some headers : it answer frequently that it doesn't find the vtk 
headers, such as vtkPointData.h, so that it generates a lot of 
consequent errors
But in my case, I have an installation of vtk, coming with Paraview... 
This should be ok, no ? Otherwise, how can I show the path to these 
headers to the compiler ???
Apart from this point, it works well !!

Thanks

Thierry

[Therion] how to use cedil in map-comment

[thierrygonon]

I don't know These parts of the work (the .tex file writing) is 
completely done by therion... I think it should be directly in the 
therion script that you have to do this (I didn't tried till now...)? I 
think Martin or Stacho would answer better !!

Thierry

Carlos "Guâno" Grohmann a écrit :
> Hello Thierry!
>
> thanks for the quick answer. But how do you call the babel package in Therion?
>
> I tryed
>
> \usepackage[brazil,brazilian]{babel}
>
> but therion doesn't recognizes it...
>
> thanks
>
> Carlos
>
> On 10/9/06, thierrygonon  wrote:
>   
>> Hi Carlos !!
>>
>> You probably have to use the tex syntax instead of the html one...
>> So : \c{c}
>> Note : for this (in current tex documents...), I use french package...
>> Don't know if it will work for your language settings and if you have
>> this package...
>>
>> P.S. : For everyone (and particularly Eric Madelaine), I've started a
>> french wiki on the global therion wiki with, right now, only the french
>> translation of the tutorial of Roman Muñoz (Special thanks to him !!).
>> Each one can add his participation !!!
>>
>> Thierry Gonon
>>
>>
>> Carlos "Guâno" Grohmann a écrit :
>> 
>>> Hi, I need to use a cedil (ç) in a citie's name in map-comment, but so
>>> far, nothing.
>>>
>>> attempts:
>>> in thconfig - in pdf
>>>
>>> Itaguaçu - Itaguau (the "ç" is missing)
>>> Itaguaçu - Itaguaçu (doesn't recognize html)
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>
>>>   
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[Therion] how to use cedil in map-comment

[thierrygonon]

Hi Carlos !!

You probably have to use the tex syntax instead of the html one...
So : \c{c}
Note : for this (in current tex documents...), I use french package... 
Don't know if it will work for your language settings and if you have 
this package...

P.S. : For everyone (and particularly Eric Madelaine), I've started a 
french wiki on the global therion wiki with, right now, only the french 
translation of the tutorial of Roman Muñoz (Special thanks to him !!). 
Each one can add his participation !!!

Thierry Gonon


Carlos "Guâno" Grohmann a écrit :
> Hi, I need to use a cedil (ç) in a citie's name in map-comment, but so
> far, nothing.
>
> attempts:
> in thconfig - in pdf
>
> Itaguaçu - Itaguau (the "ç" is missing)
> Itaguaçu - Itaguaçu (doesn't recognize html)
>
> thanks
>   

[Therion] dxf export

[thierrygonon]

Hello,

Im' just trying to make a dxf export of my dataset. My problem is that I 
want to export all the features I've drawn in the .th2 files (i. e., the 
pits, the steps...) in my dxf files, and also the walls as Iv'e drawn 
them... (I want to add them in Autocad /Covadis) The dxf export, as it's 
treated true the model export, doesn't include this feature... Is it 
possible to precise what features I want to export ??

Thank you

[Therion] Elevation

[thierrygonon]

Hello,

Iv'e solved my problem of scrap in multiple parts : I make a first 
compilation with only my centerline, then I join my different sketches 
in a graphical software (like Illustrator) using transparencies, and 
then I draw on this in the map editor, and that's OK !!


But now, I have a new problem... I want to draw the elevation of my 
galleries independantly : one gallery on one file (each gallery is in 
one scrap). Can I precise in the "export" command which scrap (or 
scraps) to use ?


Thank you very much !!

Thierry Gonon, alias T2

[Therion] scrap in multiple parts

[thierrygonon]

Stacho Mudrak a écrit :
>> I've got the following problem : I've made a survey (in a ptolemaic
>> cistern, in Alexandria) and my plan is, on the sketch, in multiple parts
>> : each time I've change the direction, I've made a new part, without any
>> link (problem of angle between both parts, that I can't report
>> precisely). How can I do ?
>> 
>
> I am not sure, I understand your problem correctly - may be a little image 
> would
> help. But I will try.
>
> Original idea was - each part = one scrap. But in your case (and lot of other
> cases), it is a lot of work, especially adjusting those scraps to join each
> other correctly. And also our transformation generates extremly skewed maps in
> these cases.
>
>   
OK !
>> I've tried to put every parts on the same scan and to precise for each
>> the 2 survey points, but the result isn't very good... Do I have to join
>> all parts (with the right angles...) before drawing it with the map
>> editor ? Is there another way to do this ?
>> 
>
> Last month, we are "intensively" working on this topic. We would like to add
> idea of registered sketches (Winkarst and Carto) to therion. It means, you 
> will
> specify station coordinates on bitmaps and then these bitmaps will be morphed 
> to
> match centerline data. Afterwards they will be shown on the map or in the
> map-editor to enable fast digitalization of these sketches. Would something
> like this solve your problem?
>
> S.
>   
I think that's exactly what will solve my problem and allow me to make 
perfect plans !! In fact, that's what I was doing with Illustrator after 
having made my "skeleton" in Toporobot before... But it will be much 
more precise this way !!
I hope this function can be added easily (I'm not sure !!)

Thank you very much.

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[Therion] scrap in multiple parts

[thierrygonon]

Hello everybody...

I've got the following problem : I've made a survey (in a ptolemaic 
cistern, in Alexandria) and my plan is, on the sketch, in multiple parts 
: each time I've change the direction, I've made a new part, without any 
link (problem of angle between both parts, that I can't report 
precisely). How can I do ?
I've tried to put every parts on the same scan and to precise for each 
the 2 survey points, but the result isn't very good... Do I have to join 
all parts (with the right angles...) before drawing it with the map 
editor ? Is there another way to do this ?

Thank you very much

Thierry

[Therion] French translation of R. Muñoz's "therion for (plain) cavers"

[thierrygonon]

Hello,

this mail is mainly for R. Muñoz... I'm currently working on the 
translation in French of your guide to Therion, to help Therion to be 
spread in the french speleological community...
In the old ladies promenade, part 3.1.2- CENTERLINE DATA AND .th FILES, 
you're talking about a template.th file... Where can we find it ???

Thank you very much for your answer.

And now, for Martin Budaj : I can now compile my therion files, but not 
through Xtherion : I have to use "therion..." in the terminal...

[Therion] Metapost problem...

[thierrygonon]

I also use this distribution... but have this problem with the latest 
snapshot!!
In March, I use therion 0.3.10 without any problems and I haven't made 
big changes since this time...

T2

Martin Sluka a écrit :
> On 14.5.2006, at 10:55, thierrygonon wrote:
>
>   
>> Hello, I've finally succeed in changing the mpost and pdfetex path...
>> 
>
> Which TeX you use?
>
> I use the standard installation through i-installer and no any problems.
>
> Martin
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[Therion] Metapost problem...

[thierrygonon]

Hello, I've finally succeed in changing the mpost and pdfetex path...
So, now, the error message is different !! (It still doesn't work !!)
It looks like this :
### metapost log file 
This is MetaPost, Version 0.641 (Web2C 7.5.4) (mem=mpost 2005.10.5)  14 
MAY 2006 10:46
**data.mp
(data.mp [4001] [4002] [4003] [4004] [4005]
[1] [2] (mptextmp.mp
 >> mptextmp.mp
 >> mptextmp.mpx
! Unable to make mpx file.
l.2 btex
 \thfa 10\thinspace\thfa\char109 {} etex
The two files given above are one of your source files
and an auxiliary file I need to read to find out what your
btex..etex blocks mean. If you don't know why I had trouble,
try running it manually through MPto -tex, TeX, and DVItoMP.


Here is how much of MetaPost's memory you used:
 670 strings out of 31349
 8618 string characters out of 1226375
 27160 words of memory out of 150
 1034 symbolic tokens out of 9500
 7i,66n,11p,111b stack positions out of 300i,300n,1500p,20b
 0 string compactions (moved 0 characters, 0 strings)
7 output files written: data.1 .. data.4005

 end of metapost log file 
therion: error -- metapost exit code -- 256

So, error code 256 for mpost...

Thank you for your help !

T2

Stacho Mudrak a écrit :
>> I've made the changes you've indicated, but I don't know where is the 
>> THERION environnement variable, so I can't modify this ! My therion.ini 
>> file stands in the general therion directory...
>> 
>
> OK. Run therion like:
>
> therion --print-environment
>
> Output like this should appear:
> therion 0.3.11
> cavern.exe - Survex 1.0.23
> initialization file: C:\Program Files\Therion/therion.ini
> reading ... done
> INIT=C:\Documents and Settings\stacho\.therion;C:\Program Files\Therion
> SOURCE=C:\Documents and Settings\stacho\.therion;C:\Program Files\Therion
> METAPOST=C:\Program Files\Therion\bin\win32\mpost.exe
> PDFTEX=C:\Program Files\Therion\bin\win32\pdfetex.exe
>
> Then you need to copy therion.ini into one of the folders listed in INIT 
> variable. When you receive correct path to mpost and pdfetex in items 
> METAPOST and PDFTEX, then your therion configuration is OK.
>
> I am not sure, but may be there is something about Mac installation on 
> therion wiki pages.
>
> S.
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[Therion] Metapost problem...

[thierrygonon]

Stacho Mudrak a écrit :
> It looks, like therion is not able to run mpost from command line. Are 
> you able to run mpost from console?
>
> You will probably need to uncomment "mpost-path" and set it to path to 
> your mpost executable in therion.ini file (same with pdfetex). Then you 
> will need to set THERION environment variable to directory, where 
> therion.ini file stands.
>
> Martin Sluka is using therion on Mac OS X intensively, so may be he will 
> give you some hints about it also.
>
> HTH, S.
>
> thierrygonon wrote:
>   
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm using therion 0.3.11 with Mac OS X. When I try to compile my files 
>> (in my case, just a .th one), the result is :
>> ### metapost log file 
>> therion: warning -- can't open data.log file for input
>> can't open data.log file for input end of metapost 
>> log file 
>> therion: error -- metapost exit code -- 32512
>>
>> The problem seems to be linked with Metapost...
>>
>> What's the problem ???
>>
>> Thank you very much for your help !!
>>
>> Thierry
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Thank you for your very quick answer Stacho !

I've made the changes you've indicated, but I don't know where is the 
THERION environnement variable, so I can't modify this ! My therion.ini 
file stands in the general therion directory...

Thierry

[Therion] Metapost problem...

[thierrygonon]

Hello,

I'm using therion 0.3.11 with Mac OS X. When I try to compile my files 
(in my case, just a .th one), the result is :
### metapost log file 
therion: warning -- can't open data.log file for input
can't open data.log file for input end of metapost 
log file 
therion: error -- metapost exit code -- 32512

The problem seems to be linked with Metapost...

What's the problem ???

Thank you very much for your help !!

Thierry