[Therion] Compatibility with Survex

[Wookey]

+++ Wookey [2014-01-23 02:50 +]:
> +++ Stacho Mudrak [2014-01-22 23:02 +0100]:
> >I have upgraded survex img parser in 5.3.13 version released few minutes
> >ago.
> >No other important changes have been made.
> 
> Thanks for including nearly all the non debian-specific patches upstream 
> Stacho.
> 
> Is there any particualar reason you didn't include the 'wrong-size tabs'
> whitespace patch? That seems like an uncontroversial upstream fix.
> 
> Anyway, it was a gloriously simple update - uscan, and quilt-delete the
> patches that are now upstream. I'll upload a 5.3.13 soon assuming it
> builds/tests OK.

OK. Therion 5.3.13 is now in Debian unstable. With the serious 'no
background images' bug finally fixed. As ever feedback is welcome if
there are remaining issues..

Hopefully this will be a good release to end up in the next stable
release (it would be good to get the wx 3.0 transition done too for
that, but currently loch hangs. Olly would be very happy if anyone did
some work on looking into that, I'm sure. There is a patch to let it
build in the package, but not applied:
http://sources.debian.net/src/therion/5.3.13-1/debian/patches/wx3.0-compat.patch.diff).

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[Graham Mullan]

Thanks Stacho

Graham
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[Stacho Mudrak]

>
> Is there any particualar reason you didn't include the 'wrong-size tabs'
> whitespace patch? That seems like an uncontroversial upstream fix.
>

To be honest, not enough time to read the "patch" manpage. See
https://xkcd.com/1168/ :)

I modified files manually in mc, I would like to clean the code later,
together with compiler warnings, there are still a lot of them.

Thanks, S.
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[Wookey]

+++ Stacho Mudrak [2014-01-22 23:02 +0100]:
>I have upgraded survex img parser in 5.3.13 version released few minutes
>ago.
>No other important changes have been made.

Thanks for including nearly all the non debian-specific patches upstream Stacho.

Is there any particualar reason you didn't include the 'wrong-size tabs'
whitespace patch? That seems like an uncontroversial upstream fix.

Anyway, it was a gloriously simple update - uscan, and quilt-delete the
patches that are now upstream. I'll upload a 5.3.13 soon assuming it
builds/tests OK.

Wookey
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[Therion] Compatibility with Survex

[Stacho Mudrak]

I have upgraded survex img parser in 5.3.13 version released few minutes
ago.

No other important changes have been made.

S.


On 15 January 2014 23:15, Ladislav Blažek  wrote:

> FYI, Stacho is working on the issue so expect updated source/Windows build
> soon.
>
> 15. 1. 2014 v 19:17, Footleg :
>
> Thanks Bruce.
>
> Just to be completely clear in case anyone is confused, the fix which
> Bruce has documented on the wiki is for when Therion is using Survex to
> generate centreline coordinates from survey data entered into Therion
> project files. My 'generate the 3d file using the -v7 argument' fix is for
> projects where you import an already generated 3d file into the Therion
> project to define the survey centreline (e.g. Within the 'survey' block:
> import West_Kingsdale_System.3d -surveys use -cs OSGB:SD  )
>
> Footleg
>
>
>
> On 15 January 2014 17:46, Bruce  wrote:
>
>>  Graham
>>
>> The Windows solution is to either install Survex 1.2.6 (I think) which
>> produces –v7 format .3d files, or
>>
>> use a current version of Survex and tell it to produce –v7 format, either
>> Footleg’ sway or as I just added to the wiki
>>
>>
>> http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php/faq#how_to_pass_survex_command_line_parameters_using_therion
>>
>>
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>>
>>  --
>>
>> *From:* therion-bounces at speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces at speleo.sk] 
>> *On
>> Behalf Of *Graham Mullan
>> *Sent:* Thursday, 16 January 2014 3:49 a.m.
>> *To:* therion at speleo.sk
>> *Subject:* [Therion] Compatibility with Survex
>>
>>
>>
>> In the latest project in which I am involved, I am having to import data
>> from Survex (actually from Compass via Survex but that's another story!).
>> This requires importing survex 3d files. The problem that I have is that
>> .3d files generated in the most recent iterations of Survex cannot be read
>> by Therion. I had the same problem some years back & eventually they caught
>> up with each other, but it seems that the Survex format has changed too
>> much once again.
>>
>>
>>
>> Can this be rectified, please 'cos it's a pain in the bum.
>>
>>
>>
>> Graham
>>
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[Bruce]

Graham

The Windows solution is to either install Survex 1.2.6 (I think) which
produces -v7 format .3d files, or

use a current version of Survex and tell it to produce -v7 format, either
Footleg' sway or as I just added to the wiki

http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php/faq#how_to_pass_survex_command_line_p
arameters_using_therion



Bruce



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From: therion-bounces at speleo.sk [mailto:therion-boun...@speleo.sk] On Behalf
Of Graham Mullan
Sent: Thursday, 16 January 2014 3:49 a.m.
To: therion at speleo.sk
Subject: [Therion] Compatibility with Survex



In the latest project in which I am involved, I am having to import data
from Survex (actually from Compass via Survex but that's another story!).
This requires importing survex 3d files. The problem that I have is that .3d
files generated in the most recent iterations of Survex cannot be read by
Therion. I had the same problem some years back & eventually they caught up
with each other, but it seems that the Survex format has changed too much
once again.



Can this be rectified, please 'cos it's a pain in the bum.



Graham

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[Ladislav Blažek]

FYI, Stacho is working on the issue so expect updated source/Windows build soon.

15. 1. 2014 v 19:17, Footleg :

> Thanks Bruce.
> 
> Just to be completely clear in case anyone is confused, the fix which Bruce 
> has documented on the wiki is for when Therion is using Survex to generate 
> centreline coordinates from survey data entered into Therion project files. 
> My 'generate the 3d file using the -v7 argument' fix is for projects where 
> you import an already generated 3d file into the Therion project to define 
> the survey centreline (e.g. Within the 'survey' block: import 
> West_Kingsdale_System.3d -surveys use -cs OSGB:SD  )
> 
> Footleg
> 
> 
> 
>> On 15 January 2014 17:46, Bruce  wrote:
>> Graham
>> 
>> The Windows solution is to either install Survex 1.2.6 (I think) which 
>> produces –v7 format .3d files, or
>> 
>> use a current version of Survex and tell it to produce –v7 format, either 
>> Footleg’ sway or as I just added to the wiki
>> 
>> http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php/faq#how_to_pass_survex_command_line_parameters_using_therion
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Bruce
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: therion-bounces at speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces at speleo.sk] On 
>> Behalf Of Graham Mullan
>> Sent: Thursday, 16 January 2014 3:49 a.m.
>> To: therion at speleo.sk
>> Subject: [Therion] Compatibility with Survex
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> In the latest project in which I am involved, I am having to import data 
>> from Survex (actually from Compass via Survex but that's another story!). 
>> This requires importing survex 3d files. The problem that I have is that .3d 
>> files generated in the most recent iterations of Survex cannot be read by 
>> Therion. I had the same problem some years back & eventually they caught up 
>> with each other, but it seems that the Survex format has changed too much 
>> once again.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Can this be rectified, please 'cos it's a pain in the bum.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Graham
>> 
>> 
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[Graham Mullan]

Thanks guys.

Yes, I am doing as Footleg suspected and importing already generated
survex.3d files in this case. That's partially to save time, as I seem to be
on a deadline with this, strange feeling for a survey project, and that's
the way much of the data is getting to me. I have also been given some data
in Compass.dat files & I can import that into Survex to generate a .3d but
I've been never been able to get it to import directly into Therion. Does
it?

I could convert the data to Therion but that's time consuming to get right &
as I said, I seem to have a deadline on this.

However, thanks to Footleg I now know which version of Survex to use. I'd
gone all the way back to 1.1.15 just to make sure it worked!

Graham

[Therion] Compatibility with Survex

[Footleg]

Thanks Bruce.

Just to be completely clear in case anyone is confused, the fix which Bruce
has documented on the wiki is for when Therion is using Survex to generate
centreline coordinates from survey data entered into Therion project files.
My 'generate the 3d file using the -v7 argument' fix is for projects where
you import an already generated 3d file into the Therion project to define
the survey centreline (e.g. Within the 'survey' block: import
West_Kingsdale_System.3d -surveys use -cs OSGB:SD  )

Footleg



On 15 January 2014 17:46, Bruce  wrote:

>  Graham
>
> The Windows solution is to either install Survex 1.2.6 (I think) which
> produces –v7 format .3d files, or
>
> use a current version of Survex and tell it to produce –v7 format, either
> Footleg’ sway or as I just added to the wiki
>
>
> http://therion.speleo.sk/wiki/doku.php/faq#how_to_pass_survex_command_line_parameters_using_therion
>
>
>
> Bruce
>
>
>  --
>
> *From:* therion-bounces at speleo.sk [mailto:therion-bounces at speleo.sk] *On
> Behalf Of *Graham Mullan
> *Sent:* Thursday, 16 January 2014 3:49 a.m.
> *To:* therion at speleo.sk
> *Subject:* [Therion] Compatibility with Survex
>
>
>
> In the latest project in which I am involved, I am having to import data
> from Survex (actually from Compass via Survex but that's another story!).
> This requires importing survex 3d files. The problem that I have is that
> .3d files generated in the most recent iterations of Survex cannot be read
> by Therion. I had the same problem some years back & eventually they caught
> up with each other, but it seems that the Survex format has changed too
> much once again.
>
>
>
> Can this be rectified, please 'cos it's a pain in the bum.
>
>
>
> Graham
>
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[Wookey]

+++ Wookey [2014-01-15 14:57 +]:
> +++ Graham Mullan [2014-01-15 14:48 -]:
> >In the latest project in which I am involved, I am having to import data
> >from Survex (actually from Compass via Survex but that's another story!).
> >This requires importing survex 3d files. The problem that I have is that
> >.3d files generated in the most recent iterations of Survex cannot be 
> > read
> >by Therion. I had the same problem some years back & eventually they
> >caught up with each other, but it seems that the Survex format has 
> > changed
> >too much once again.
> > 
> >Can this be rectified, please 'cos it's a pain in the bum.
> 
> I already fixed this in Debian, and the necessary patch is here:
> http://sources.debian.net/src/therion/5.3.11-2/debian/patches/update-survex-img-parser-to-v8.patch
> 
> There an uptodate 5.3.12 version in here:
> http://www.wookware.org/software/repo/pool/main/t/therion/therion_5.3.12-1.debian.tar.xz
> 
> (That's not uploaded officially yet as I'm trying to solve the tk-img
> missing background image issue first)  ( 
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=718294 )

Sorry, forgot to go on to say that I realise this isn't directly very
useful to Graham or other Windows users, but it does mean that it should
be very easy for the developers to just apply that and rebuild the
Windows version.


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[Footleg]

Hi Graham,

I have the same scenario (some of my Therion projects import a Survex 3d
file to define the centreline. The easiest solution is to use the version
switch when generating the 3d files to generate the 3d file version which
Therion can read. I wrote a batch file with the following line to do this
for my main project:
"C:\Program Files (x86)\Survex\cavern.exe" -v7 mycavedata.svx

Other more technical solutions may enable Therion to read the newer format
3D files (I expect Wookey is already typing something about the Debian
version as I write this!)

Footleg


On 15 January 2014 14:48, Graham Mullan  wrote:

>  In the latest project in which I am involved, I am having to import data
> from Survex (actually from Compass via Survex but that's another story!).
> This requires importing survex 3d files. The problem that I have is that
> .3d files generated in the most recent iterations of Survex cannot be read
> by Therion. I had the same problem some years back & eventually they caught
> up with each other, but it seems that the Survex format has changed too
> much once again.
>
> Can this be rectified, please 'cos it's a pain in the bum.
>
> Graham
>
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[Wookey]

+++ Graham Mullan [2014-01-15 14:48 -]:
>In the latest project in which I am involved, I am having to import data
>from Survex (actually from Compass via Survex but that's another story!).
>This requires importing survex 3d files. The problem that I have is that
>.3d files generated in the most recent iterations of Survex cannot be read
>by Therion. I had the same problem some years back & eventually they
>caught up with each other, but it seems that the Survex format has changed
>too much once again.
> 
>Can this be rectified, please 'cos it's a pain in the bum.

I already fixed this in Debian, and the necessary patch is here:
http://sources.debian.net/src/therion/5.3.11-2/debian/patches/update-survex-img-parser-to-v8.patch

There an uptodate 5.3.12 version in here:
http://www.wookware.org/software/repo/pool/main/t/therion/therion_5.3.12-1.debian.tar.xz

(That's not uploaded officially yet as I'm trying to solve the tk-img
missing background image issue first)  ( 
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=718294 )

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[Therion] Compatibility with Survex

[Graham Mullan]

In the latest project in which I am involved, I am having to import data
from Survex (actually from Compass via Survex but that's another story!).
This requires importing survex 3d files. The problem that I have is that .3d
files generated in the most recent iterations of Survex cannot be read by
Therion. I had the same problem some years back & eventually they caught up
with each other, but it seems that the Survex format has changed too much
once again.

Can this be rectified, please 'cos it's a pain in the bum.

Graham
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[Graham Mullan]

I made a comment recently about compatibility with the most recent 
version of Survex, so that I didn't need to change between versions of 
the latter when viewing 3d files generated with either Survex or 
Therion. This was to be takien on board with the next development 
snapshot. I see this morning that Olly has uploaded Survex 1.1.16. Aven 
seems smoother in use on this. Could this be borne in mind when the next 
Therion snapshot is produced?

Many thanks

Graham