Re: [Therion] Joining scraps and PDF layouts
This is a very interesting work-around! I had not thought of trying it this way. There is still a problem: If the water extends over many scraps, such as with a river in the cave, then this is not practical. I get my water areas to join by fiddling with the lines in adjoining scraps. It can get pretty close though it is never perfect. I think the ultimate solution is to have some sort of "join" directive for areas. -- Bill Gee BOINC Statistics On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 7:51:14 AM CDT Footleg via Therion wrote: > More of a problem at scrap joins where both scraps have water area fills > adjoining is that the hash lines indicating the fill type do not align. I > work around this by drawing the entire water fill area on just one of the > scraps so that it overlaps on top of the adjoining scrap (they must be in > the same 'block' of the map; without a 'break' between them). Turn 'clip > off' for the area fill so it extends outside the scrap border, overlapping > the other scrap and appears as one area fill on the PDF. I often use this > deliberately to hide colour differences at scrap joins where I am colouring > my scrap backgrounds by altitude. The water area fill is always blue in my > layout so it hides the contrast between adjoining scrap colours (circled in > red in attached graphic). > > Footleg > [image: ScrapJoinHiddenByWater.png] > > On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 8:22 PM Martin Sluka via Therion <therion@speleo.sk> > wrote: > > There is one possibility to play with invisible walls and define borders > > of scraps not as straight lines but as puzzle. > > > > In such case one scrap may include all water area. > > > > The problem is with contact of scraps, but if both scraps are on the same > > background image you may copy line from one scrap to another with plain > > text editor. Coordinates are the same. > > > > m.s. > > > > > > > > 14. 8. 2017 v 19:45, Torsten Schnitter via Therion <therion@speleo.sk>: > > > > > > Hi > > As I was told by a grafic designer problem 1 is just visible on the > > screen/monitor. > > When printing to a plotter there are no white lines anymore. > > I do have the same problem on the screen. But when plotting there are > > really no white lines anymore. > > Cheers, > > Torsten > > > > Am 14.08.2017 um 19:04 schrieb Henry Bennett via Therion < > > therion@speleo.sk>: > > > > Problem 2 can be addressed by working with some custom Tex. > > > > Take a look at this > > https://github.com/speleo/SpeleoPhilippines/blob/master/CodeLibrary/_layou > > ts.tex > > > > You’ll then need to inject the code into your thconfig file using the > > “input” command. > > > > > > https://github.com/speleo/SpeleoPhilippines/blob/master/Region-2/Baggao/th > > config-BlueWater-System > > > > or you could just cut and paste it in. > > > > Hope this helps. Should at least get you in the right direction. > > > > Problem 1 has been discussed before and I agree, it is a pain. > > > > Henry > > > > > > *From:* Therion [mailto:therion-boun...@speleo.sk > > <therion-boun...@speleo.sk>] *On Behalf Of *Steven Tucker via Therion > > *Sent:* 14 August 2017 17:29 > > *To:* therion@speleo.sk > > *Cc:* Steven Tucker <sjtucker...@gmail.com> > > *Subject:* [Therion] Joining scraps and PDF layouts > > > > > > Hello, > > > > I am busy completing a survey of a cave and I am running into two problems > > with the final PDF > > First problem. > > There are water areas that cross over two scraps and the water is coloured > > blue. In the PDF file, the line where the two scraps join show a thin > > white > > line. The kml and loch files don't show any split between the joint > > scraps. > > > > > > Any idea how to fix this? > > Second problem. > > > > I would like to display the cave name, scalebar etc in one area of the PDF > > and have my legend in a seperate area of the PDF, but I can't figure out > > how to do this. > > > > Any help will be much appreciated! > > > > Thanks in advance, > > Steven > > > > ___ > > Therion mailing list > > Therion@speleo.sk > > https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion > > > > ___ > > Therion mailing list > > Therion@speleo.sk > > https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion > > > > ___ > > Therion mailing list > > Therion@speleo.sk > > https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion
Re: [Therion] Joining scraps and PDF layouts
More of a problem at scrap joins where both scraps have water area fills adjoining is that the hash lines indicating the fill type do not align. I work around this by drawing the entire water fill area on just one of the scraps so that it overlaps on top of the adjoining scrap (they must be in the same 'block' of the map; without a 'break' between them). Turn 'clip off' for the area fill so it extends outside the scrap border, overlapping the other scrap and appears as one area fill on the PDF. I often use this deliberately to hide colour differences at scrap joins where I am colouring my scrap backgrounds by altitude. The water area fill is always blue in my layout so it hides the contrast between adjoining scrap colours (circled in red in attached graphic). Footleg [image: ScrapJoinHiddenByWater.png] On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 8:22 PM Martin Sluka via Therion <therion@speleo.sk> wrote: > There is one possibility to play with invisible walls and define borders > of scraps not as straight lines but as puzzle. > > In such case one scrap may include all water area. > > The problem is with contact of scraps, but if both scraps are on the same > background image you may copy line from one scrap to another with plain > text editor. Coordinates are the same. > > m.s. > > > > 14. 8. 2017 v 19:45, Torsten Schnitter via Therion <therion@speleo.sk>: > > > Hi > As I was told by a grafic designer problem 1 is just visible on the > screen/monitor. > When printing to a plotter there are no white lines anymore. > I do have the same problem on the screen. But when plotting there are > really no white lines anymore. > Cheers, > Torsten > > Am 14.08.2017 um 19:04 schrieb Henry Bennett via Therion < > therion@speleo.sk>: > > Problem 2 can be addressed by working with some custom Tex. > > Take a look at this > https://github.com/speleo/SpeleoPhilippines/blob/master/CodeLibrary/_layouts.tex > > You’ll then need to inject the code into your thconfig file using the > “input” command. > > > https://github.com/speleo/SpeleoPhilippines/blob/master/Region-2/Baggao/thconfig-BlueWater-System > > or you could just cut and paste it in. > > Hope this helps. Should at least get you in the right direction. > > Problem 1 has been discussed before and I agree, it is a pain. > > Henry > > > *From:* Therion [mailto:therion-boun...@speleo.sk > <therion-boun...@speleo.sk>] *On Behalf Of *Steven Tucker via Therion > *Sent:* 14 August 2017 17:29 > *To:* therion@speleo.sk > *Cc:* Steven Tucker <sjtucker...@gmail.com> > *Subject:* [Therion] Joining scraps and PDF layouts > > > Hello, > > I am busy completing a survey of a cave and I am running into two problems > with the final PDF > First problem. > There are water areas that cross over two scraps and the water is coloured > blue. In the PDF file, the line where the two scraps join show a thin white > line. The kml and loch files don't show any split between the joint scraps. > > > Any idea how to fix this? > Second problem. > > I would like to display the cave name, scalebar etc in one area of the PDF > and have my legend in a seperate area of the PDF, but I can't figure out > how to do this. > > Any help will be much appreciated! > > Thanks in advance, > Steven > > ___ > Therion mailing list > Therion@speleo.sk > https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion > > ___ > Therion mailing list > Therion@speleo.sk > https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion > > ___ > Therion mailing list > Therion@speleo.sk > https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion > ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion
Re: [Therion] Joining scraps and PDF layouts
Hi As I was told by a grafic designer problem 1 is just visible on the screen/monitor. When printing to a plotter there are no white lines anymore. I do have the same problem on the screen. But when plotting there are really no white lines anymore. Cheers, Torsten > Am 14.08.2017 um 19:04 schrieb Henry Bennett via Therion <therion@speleo.sk>: > > Problem 2 can be addressed by working with some custom Tex. > > Take a look at this > https://github.com/speleo/SpeleoPhilippines/blob/master/CodeLibrary/_layouts.tex > > You’ll then need to inject the code into your thconfig file using the “input” > command. > > https://github.com/speleo/SpeleoPhilippines/blob/master/Region-2/Baggao/thconfig-BlueWater-System > > or you could just cut and paste it in. > > Hope this helps. Should at least get you in the right direction. > > Problem 1 has been discussed before and I agree, it is a pain. > > Henry > > > From: Therion [mailto:therion-boun...@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Steven Tucker > via Therion > Sent: 14 August 2017 17:29 > To: therion@speleo.sk > Cc: Steven Tucker <sjtucker...@gmail.com> > Subject: [Therion] Joining scraps and PDF layouts > > Hello, > > I am busy completing a survey of a cave and I am running into two problems > with the final PDF > > First problem. > There are water areas that cross over two scraps and the water is coloured > blue. In the PDF file, the line where the two scraps join show a thin white > line. The kml and loch files don't show any split between the joint scraps. > Any idea how to fix this? > > Second problem. > I would like to display the cave name, scalebar etc in one area of the PDF > and have my legend in a seperate area of the PDF, but I can't figure out how > to do this. > > Any help will be much appreciated! > > Thanks in advance, > > Steven > ___ > Therion mailing list > Therion@speleo.sk > https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion
Re: [Therion] Joining scraps and PDF layouts
Problem 2 can be addressed by working with some custom Tex. Take a look at this https://github.com/speleo/SpeleoPhilippines/blob/master/CodeLibrary/_layouts.tex You’ll then need to inject the code into your thconfig file using the “input” command. https://github.com/speleo/SpeleoPhilippines/blob/master/Region-2/Baggao/thconfig-BlueWater-System or you could just cut and paste it in. Hope this helps. Should at least get you in the right direction. Problem 1 has been discussed before and I agree, it is a pain. Henry From: Therion [mailto:therion-boun...@speleo.sk] On Behalf Of Steven Tucker via Therion Sent: 14 August 2017 17:29 To: therion@speleo.sk Cc: Steven Tucker <sjtucker...@gmail.com> Subject: [Therion] Joining scraps and PDF layouts Hello, I am busy completing a survey of a cave and I am running into two problems with the final PDF First problem. There are water areas that cross over two scraps and the water is coloured blue. In the PDF file, the line where the two scraps join show a thin white line. The kml and loch files don't show any split between the joint scraps. Any idea how to fix this? Second problem. I would like to display the cave name, scalebar etc in one area of the PDF and have my legend in a seperate area of the PDF, but I can't figure out how to do this. Any help will be much appreciated! Thanks in advance, Steven ___ Therion mailing list Therion@speleo.sk https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion
