Re: [Thunar-dev] thunar-volman

2007-01-12 Thread Nick Schermer
Does this mean we have a working volume manager and we don't need
Brian's xfce4-volume-manager test project (in the Xfce repo) anymore?

Nick
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Re: [Thunar-dev] thunar-volman

2007-01-12 Thread Benedikt Meurer
Nick Schermer wrote:
 Does this mean we have a working volume manager and we don't need
 Brian's xfce4-volume-manager test project (in the Xfce repo) anymore?

Hm, didn't even that this test project existed. Well, basically, yes.

 Nick

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Re: [Thunar-dev] A Standard for Thumbnailers

2007-01-12 Thread Benedikt Meurer
Jens Luedicke wrote:
 On 1/12/07, Benedikt Meurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Checking my own source again... you should be able to store the
 thumbnail as JPEG. thunar_vfs_thumb_factory_generate_thumbnail() will
 also accept JPEGs and convert them to PNGs internally.

 
 does it also accept PPM?
 
  -e Extract the camera-generated thumbnail, not the raw image.
 You'll get either a JPEG or a PPM file, depending on the camera.

If GdkPixbuf accepts PPM's, then yes. Check the output of
gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders.

 Jens

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Re: [Thunar-dev] thunar-volman

2007-01-12 Thread Jani Monoses
Benedikt Meurer wrote:
 For the brave: I've just imported an initial version of the
 thunar-volman, which provides automatic handling of removable drives and
 media for Thunar. This requires a really recent version of Thunar.
 
 It's designed to look and behave similar to gnome-volume-manager, tho of
 course, it's not bug-compatible. ;-)
 

this looks nice. In the past weeks I was considering moving to g-v-m in 
xubuntu because it's pref GUI and autostart spec support but seems like 
there will be no need. The reason ubuntu is going with gnome-mount and 
dropping pmount for the next version is support for encrypted disks and 
a GUI for the mount utility. Will these be matched by exo-mount and 
thunar-volman?

thanks
Jani

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Re: [Thunar-dev] thunar-volman

2007-01-12 Thread Benedikt Meurer
Jani Monoses wrote:
 Benedikt Meurer wrote:
 For the brave: I've just imported an initial version of the
 thunar-volman, which provides automatic handling of removable drives and
 media for Thunar. This requires a really recent version of Thunar.

 It's designed to look and behave similar to gnome-volume-manager, tho of
 course, it's not bug-compatible. ;-)
 
 this looks nice. In the past weeks I was considering moving to g-v-m in 
 xubuntu because it's pref GUI and autostart spec support but seems like 
 there will be no need. The reason ubuntu is going with gnome-mount and 
 dropping pmount for the next version is support for encrypted disks and 
 a GUI for the mount utility. Will these be matched by exo-mount and 
 thunar-volman?

thunar-volman lets exo-mount handle encrypted file systems, just like
every other file system. exo-mount currently doesn't support encrypted
file systems, simply because I haven't bothered to figure out how to
test that. It should be relatively easy to add. If anyone wants to help,
go ahead.

I don't know what you mean by GUI for the mount utility. exo-mount
uses libnotify to give visual feedback of progress and pops up an error
dialog if mount/eject/unmount fails. Besides that, what kind of GUI do
you need?

 thanks
 Jani

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[Thunar-dev] Mounting fails due to no available org.freedesktop.Hal services

2007-01-12 Thread Jannis Pohlmann
Hey Benny,

I just updated my exo and Thunar checkouts and installed them. But when
I try to mount my USB disk, the following error message pops up:

  The name org.freedesktop.Hal was not provided by any .service files.

I wouldn't wonder if my setup is b0rked to a certain degree, but I
didn't touch any .service files. Any ideas what might be wrong?

Regards,
Jannis


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Re: [Thunar-dev] A Standard for Thumbnailers

2007-01-12 Thread Jens Luedicke
On 1/12/07, Benedikt Meurer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If GdkPixbuf accepts PPM's, then yes. Check the output of
 gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders | grep PPM
pnm 4 gtk20 The PNM/PBM/PGM/PPM image format family

So the | convert call can be removed.

Jens

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Re: [Thunar-dev] [Patch] Make Properties Dialog track selection

2007-01-12 Thread Benedikt Meurer
Ori Bernstein wrote:
 I've written a patch to make Thunar reuse the same properties dialog and 
 change
 the contents based on the last-selected file. This is quite useful when
 managing stuff like manually renaming a large number of files by hand, or 
 just
 for managing screen clutter when going thorugh a large number of files.

 The patch is attached at http://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2666
 I'm aware of this patch, but I don't think it's something for Thunar by
 default.
 
 Ok, that's your choice to make, although I'll keep applying this patch to 
 Thunar
 whenever I build it, since it really does make managing properties of large
 numbers of files at once a breeze. For example, I just copied over a bunch of
 files from a backup, and wanted to change permissions on a few, so I just 
 opened
 properties and rolled through all the files.
 
 I'm just wondering if you could explain your reasons for rejecting this
 patch -- Perhaps there's some way I can keep the increased functionality,
 but modify it to be acceptable.

It changes the way the properties dialog works, which is unexpected and
probably confusing for the user.

 Ori

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Re: [Thunar-dev] thunar-volman

2007-01-12 Thread Brian J. Tarricone
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Benedikt Meurer wrote:
 Nick Schermer wrote:
 Does this mean we have a working volume manager and we don't need
 Brian's xfce4-volume-manager test project (in the Xfce repo) anymore?
 
 Hm, didn't even that this test project existed. Well, basically, yes.

Yeah, I'm gonna ditch it.  I don't really have the time for it that I
thought I had (too many projects!), and Benny's already done far more
work on his version than I had on mine.  Someone with svnroot perms can
feel free to 'svn rm' it, or I'll do it when I have the time.

-brian

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Re: [Thunar-dev] thunar-volman

2007-01-12 Thread Jani Monoses

 Ok, gnome-mount installed and nautilus says
 
  Initializing gnome-mount extension
 
 on startup. Where I can't seem to be able to locate the Mount options.

that's exactly what I saw as well. While gnome-mount code seems to use a 
gnome-mount-properties.glade file it is not obvious how.

Jani

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Re: [Thunar-dev] thunar-volman

2007-01-12 Thread Andrey Fedoseev
В Птн, 12/01/2007 в 00:29 +0100, Benedikt Meurer пишет:
 For the brave: I've just imported an initial version of the
 thunar-volman, which provides automatic handling of removable drives and
 media for Thunar. This requires a really recent version of Thunar.
 

First, thank you for this tool!

The problem is that I can't get it working properly :(

When I do 'thunar-volman
-a /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/volume_uuid_844F_3118' (this is my USB
stick) it works as expected, but when I just insert the device nothing
happens.

Am I missing something?


My system: Debian Etch, Thunar (revision 24372), thunar-volman (revision
2345), HAL 0.5.8.1

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Regards!
Andrey Fedoseev [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [Thunar-dev] Mounting fails due to no available org.freedesktop.Hal services

2007-01-12 Thread Jannis Pohlmann
On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 18:42:10 +0100, Benedikt Meurer wrote:

 Jannis Pohlmann wrote:
  Hey Benny,
 
  I just updated my exo and Thunar checkouts and installed them. But
  when I try to mount my USB disk, the following error message pops
  up:
 
The name org.freedesktop.Hal was not provided by any .service
  files.
 
  I wouldn't wonder if my setup is b0rked to a certain degree, but I
  didn't touch any .service files. Any ideas what might be wrong?

 Do you have hald running? Because hald doesn't provide a .service file
 indeed, it must be running.

Yes:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ps ax|grep hal
 3221 ?S  0:00 hald-addon-acpi: listening on acpi kernel
  interface /proc/acpi/event
 18056 ?S  0:00 hald-addon-storage: polling /dev/sda
 15876 ?S  0:00 /usr/libexec/hald-addon-acpi
 24928 ?S  0:00 hald-addon-storage: polling /dev/sda
 20943 ?S  0:00 /usr/libexec/hald-addon-acpi
 20950 ?S  0:00 hald-addon-keyboard: listening
  on /dev/input/event0
 20962 ?S  0:00 hald-addon-storage: polling /dev/sda
 20965 ?S  0:00 hald-addon-storage: polling /dev/hdc
 21506 ?S  0:00 /usr/libexec/hald-addon-acpi
 21513 ?S  0:00 hald-addon-keyboard: listening
  on /dev/input/event0
 21525 ?S  0:00 hald-addon-storage: polling /dev/sda
 21528 ?S  0:00 hald-addon-storage: polling /dev/hdc

- Jannis


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Re: [Thunar-dev] Mounting fails due to no available org.freedesktop.Hal services

2007-01-12 Thread Jannis Pohlmann
On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 23:04:56 +0100, Jannis Pohlmann wrote:

 On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 18:42:10 +0100, Benedikt Meurer wrote:

  Jannis Pohlmann wrote:
   Hey Benny,
  
   I just updated my exo and Thunar checkouts and installed them. But
   when I try to mount my USB disk, the following error message pops
   up:
  
 The name org.freedesktop.Hal was not provided by any .service
   files.
  
   I wouldn't wonder if my setup is b0rked to a certain degree, but I
   didn't touch any .service files. Any ideas what might be wrong?
 
  Do you have hald running? Because hald doesn't provide a .service
  file indeed, it must be running.

 Yes:

But: Whenever I start thunar with a running hald (sorry, my last mail
contained a lot of hald-* processes, but not hald itself) and try to
mount one of the devices, I get this:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ thunar
Thunar: Failed to connect to the D-BUS session bus: Failed to connect
to socket /tmp/dbus-TTavTtFLD4: Verbindungsaufbau abgelehnt

And after that, hald is not running anymore (but the helper apps are,
as listed my last mail). Weird, isn't it?

- Jannis


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Re: [Thunar-dev] Mounting fails due to no available org.freedesktop.Hal services

2007-01-12 Thread Benedikt Meurer
Jannis Pohlmann wrote:
 But: Whenever I start thunar with a running hald (sorry, my last mail
 contained a lot of hald-* processes, but not hald itself) and try to
 mount one of the devices, I get this:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ thunar
 Thunar: Failed to connect to the D-BUS session bus: Failed to connect
 to socket /tmp/dbus-TTavTtFLD4: Verbindungsaufbau abgelehnt

D-Bus system daemon not running.

 And after that, hald is not running anymore (but the helper apps are,
 as listed my last mail). Weird, isn't it?

Well, either a problem with D-Bus or a problem with HAL.

 - Jannis

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Re: [Thunar-dev] Mounting fails due to no available org.freedesktop.Hal services

2007-01-12 Thread Jannis Pohlmann
On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 22:40:10 +0100, Benedikt Meurer wrote:

 Jannis Pohlmann wrote:
  But: Whenever I start thunar with a running hald (sorry, my last
  mail contained a lot of hald-* processes, but not hald itself)
  and try to mount one of the devices, I get this:
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ thunar
  Thunar: Failed to connect to the D-BUS session bus: Failed to
  connect to socket /tmp/dbus-TTavTtFLD4: Verbindungsaufbau abgelehnt

 D-Bus system daemon not running.

  And after that, hald is not running anymore (but the helper apps
  are, as listed my last mail). Weird, isn't it?

 Well, either a problem with D-Bus or a problem with HAL.

Probably, yes. It's just that I can't really verify what's wrong. I've
D-BUS 1.0.1, D-BUS GLib bindings 0.72 and HAL 0.5.8.1 installed on my
system (Lunar Linux, so none of the original config files - like
/etc/dbus-1/system.d/hal.conf - were modified).

Now if I start D-BUS and HAL and try to mount something, I get this
... is not provided by any .service files error message. After that,
hald isn't running anymore. This is what happens as root. Now if I set
up D-BUS to give normal users access to some HAL-related D-BUS
services, like you suggested to Samuel in his bug report, I get exactly
the same error.

I know the package versions are pretty much bleeding edge as Lunar
isn't bound to fixed package release cycles, but nonetheless I'd love
to be able to get some more debugging information out of
Thunar/HAL/D-BUS to find a fix for this annoyance. After all, I
remember that it worked before exo-mount was introduced.

- Jannis


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