[tw] Multiple File TiddlyWiki Request
Is there a plugin that will store a TiddlyWiki's tiddlers in separate files or alphbetically separated directories? TIA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Title Right?
On May 21, 1:56 am, rtimwest wrote: At the risk of entertaining lurkers while irritating the users who receive this by email I shall make a few comments in order to get a NET time stamp (including the date) for my journal entries :-) For those who have adopted .beat time I have no quarrel. It's horses for courses and a personal preference. Although I wonder at the mathematical gyrations it has created for anyone but a drummer:-) Dividing the day into 1000 segments modulo 24 sounds like some of the weird math Andrew Wiles used to solve Fermat's Last Theorem. Nonetheless I respect .beat time as a cute way of encrypting calendars. However once one accepts it, it is just as precise as converting 22/7 th's into decimal which is in very wide spread use. On the other hand NET time is derived from UTC which has already taken wobbling planets into consideration. The numbering system to the base 60 has stood the test of time since Babylonian days. It has a mystical relationship to 12, 24 and 360 which serendipitously happens to be the chosen number of degrees in a circle. (The French tried 400 degrees once, and even determined the circumference of the Earth using it. But it failed to catch on with anyone but the Scandinavians and nerds who put Grads on scientific calculators;-) One can navigate with NET time since all charts use nautical miles which are derived from the degrees of the Earth's circumference, so there is a direct relationship between NET time and distance without troubling with a 24 hour system. See how easily it works out that instead of miles per hour conversions it can be degrees per degree. There's no messy mathematical errors to contend with so airline pilots can radio their wives their position and they can have dinner waiting when they arrive. There is a relationship between degrees and cooking times so the wives can tell just when to start the baked dinner (and at what temperature) from where the pilots are. It's yet another serendipitous degree per degree relationship :-) So to that end I propose that TiddlyWiki adopts NET time. We'll just call it TWNET. To make it easy I have made a tiddler for TiddlyWikiers to get started until Tim finishes our macro. You can see it demonstrated on the latest version of http://twt-notes-treeview-experimental.tiddlyspot.com/index.html Since that may be but temporary you can get it here as well http://twhelp.tiddlyspot.com/#NETTime I'll just make a note of this historical moment. It is TWNET 086' 27" 21-May-2009... everywhere! Morris ;-} On May 21, 1:56 am, rtimwest wrote: > Morris, > > Thanks for the kind words. No amount of experience in the proprietary > world of PL/SQL gives much in the way of tools to contribute to free > software, I'm glad for the opportunity. The program itself should get > a lot better in the next few iterations. > > > and zero time begins at an odd > > place at a factory. It's awkward to convert and really depends on > > everyone adopting it completely after an extremely difficult learning > > curve which will never happen. > > Not sure I understand why it matters when zero time begins in any one > location? > > > Then I discovered NET time. It begins at Greenwich and goes from 0 to > > 360, The units are degrees which means each degree is 4 minutes long > > so there is 15 degrees in an hour. That makes it easy to convert to > > the old local time anywhere in the world by knowing the longitude. > > It runs parallel with local time and is easily adapted to learn and > > can be converted to conventional local time in your head for reference > > if needed > > Interesting, I haven't run across that. I'll look into it, but I'm... > not yet convinced. Seems that you'd lose most of the advantages > of .beats (one of which is that it's entirely separate from the old > system), but I'll study the issue. > > I'm sure we could bore everyone here to tears with this stuff. If you > want to discuss it, maybe we should take it to e-mail? Mine is on the > site. > > > Looking at your plugin it seems it could easily be converted to NET > > time. http://newearthtime.net/I'dlike to try if I can't convince > > you to :-) > > If I understand the basics, seems like an easy mod. If I do it, I > think you just volunteered to test it. ;-) > > I wonder if it would be preferable to have them as separate plugins, > or to have one that just adds more time systems to TiddlyWiki? I can > think of arguments for both sides... having one cuts down on > redundancy, there'd be no need to stack very similar code. On the > other hand, how many people would ever want to use more than one > alternate time system at once? I wonder if making one catchall > program might make it harder to find (by program name or whatever) for > those interested in one particular system? > > Anyone have any thoughts? > > > Speaking of plugins there is a standard format that is used that you > > might have a look at. > > Knew I'd have to deal with that when
[tw] Auto-build mainmenu ideas?
I 'm a sporadic user of TW, and I'm working on a database project. One of the things I'd like to do is cross reference the tiddlers. By that I mean; each tiddler lists those tiddlers which reference it. I know the 'references' dropdown on the toolbar does this, but I want to list it within the tiddler content. Another thing I'd like to do is to have a self building mainmenu. I now know I can do that by using the tagging macro in the mainmenu and tag the tiddlers I want listed in there. That way I don't have to build the mainmenu maually. What I don't like about this method is that TW makes the lists with bullet points, and heads the list with "tagging." Both of those I'd like to change. Any suggestions? DrCory p.s. I haven't played much with MPTW and taggely tagging, I suspect you're going to point me in that direction --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: A Slight Coloring Issue
> On my site I have a light blue color that i can't find in any of the
> style related tiddlers. It shows up when you click the popup menu
> School > Summer 2009. The site is here:www.chriscassidy.net. I am at
> my wit's end trying to find the color in the code. If anyone can help,
> it would be greatly appreciated.
It's defined programmatically by PopupPlugin:
---
#nestedpopup {background:#2E5ADF; border: 1px solid #0331BF; margin-
left:1em; }
---
You should be able to override this by pasting the above line into
your [[StyleSheet]] and then altering the values to suit your
preferences.
enjoy,
-e
Eric Shulman
TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
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[tw] Re: Title Right?
> Not near ready for prime time, though- it's bare-bones function, poor
> formatting, few comments, no docs, meets no standards yet, and there
> are some sections I want to refactor.
Try this alternative bit of code for formatting a decimal # with zero-
padding... it generates the same '000.00' format as your code, but
doesn't involve any while() loops:
function formatBeats(b) {
var out='000'+b.toString()+(b==Math.floor(b)?'.':'')+'000';
return out.substr(out.indexOf('.')-3,6);
};
enjoy,
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[tw] A Slight Coloring Issue
On my site I have a light blue color that i can't find in any of the style related tiddlers. It shows up when you click the popup menu School > Summer 2009. The site is here: www.chriscassidy.net. I am at my wit's end trying to find the color in the code. If anyone can help, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Chris --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Title Right?
Dirk, > You could, but so far it doesn't bore. So please stay here for the > lurkers around... ;-) Well, okay, but remember you asked for it... discussions of time systems can get truly Byzantine, sometimes even heated (which seems odd for such a "dry" subject, but ask me how I know...), and tend to have nothing in particular to do with TiddlyWiki. -- For anyone interested: On the progress front, I've incorporated Eric's helpful suggestions and as of right now my site is weaned off of the old (well, a few days old) "newJournalSIT" macro entirely. It's been rewritten as a plugin, no installation steps required, and is now driving the journal titles and an UNALTERED version of Eric's "DigitalClock" for the real-time displays. Not near ready for prime time, though- it's bare-bones function, poor formatting, few comments, no docs, meets no standards yet, and there are some sections I want to refactor. -- Morris, I had a hard time finding ANYTHING on NET time, until I ran across it as an acronym for "New Earth Time". That led to some information... This: http://www.newearthtime.net/ seems to be the main site, though the Wikipedia entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Earth_Time Is a lot easier to deal with. I don't see any fundamental problem in implementing it, though there are some potentially thorny details. Still a bit unconvinced of it's advantages... point by point: > I looked at Swatch time some time ago had an applet on my site and > studied its implications. The trouble is it was designed for > commercial reasons to sell watches... Not sure I really see that as a problem, but we all get to determine our own ethical systems. It's not like they tried to make the system proprietary. If a company can sell more product by giving the world a useful tool, I can't see refusing to use it to better things in order to deny the company any benefit from it. > ...and zero time begins at an odd > place at a factory. Really lost me there. Not sure why that would matter- what does midnight in Greenwich or Biel have to relate to for you in Australia or me in the US? In any case "zero time" is only an hour different in the two systems. >>It's awkward to convert... It is awkward to convert both mentally and precisely, but either is easy enough. I have no problem knowing about what Internet Time I typically get up, eat, and go to bed- you get accustomed to that pretty quickly. Knowing what time things happen locally is not intrinsically easier with any given notation, it's just what you're used to. "Daylight Savings Time" is harder, and certainly makes less sense. > ...and really depends on > everyone adopting it completely I think I respectfully disagree there. It depends on people adopting it, but not completely. It was never intended to be a replacement for local time, just an additional tool. I think it will be generations, perhaps several generations, before people quit using the archaic system for local time, but we need something different very soon for synchronous global communications, and I think it's actually easier if it's very distinct from the old system. > ... after an extremely difficult learning > curve Not really. There's nothing intrinsically difficult about it, and doing arithmetic with a day divided into 1,000 units is much, much simpler than the system we've grown accustomed to by the time we can tie our shoes. > which will never happen. THAT may certainly be true. I've often gotten into trouble by underestimating society's resistance to change. > Then I discovered NET time. It begins at Greenwich and goes from 0 to > 360, The units are degrees which means each degree is 4 minutes long > so there is 15 degrees in an hour. That makes it easy to convert to > the old local time anywhere in the world by knowing the longitude. Um, you mean time zone? The local time is not going to be 4 minutes different than Greenwich for each degree of longitude separating you from it. I agree that it's probably easier to mentally convert NET to local time and vice-versa, but I personally see that as a disadvantage. In Internet Time, by keeping the notation, display, and nomenclature completely different, they've separated the "namespaces" in our minds, so theres' little potential to get crossed up. Calling the 360 divisions of the day "degrees" is fine, but calling the finer divisions "minutes" and "seconds" (based on longitude, of course) is bound to cause confusion. It seems to me that the two systems share one great advantage: in each it's the same time everywhere. However, while dealing with a day divided into 360 parts is not too bad, when you get into "minutes" and "seconds" you're dealing with elapsed time and interval computations based on 360x60x60, which is certainly no simpler than 24x60x60, and is the sort of system that's led to the current nonsensical situation where (as I've pointed out) a typical microwave oven runs for LONGER if you key in "80" than it does if you
[tw] What in the world did I do wrong?
Hi all, I thought I had this TW perfect so that my lovely and talented assistant Suni could enter the data. However when she tried to use Monkey Tagger dropdowns to add a tag in edit mode, it reverted the tiddler back to view mode. I had tested it before and the Monkey Tagger worked fine (yes, the file has deprecated functions plugin). But now it doesn't. Any clue as to what I've done wrong? Here is the file http://www.giffmex.org/IndiceHimnos.html Appreciate any wisdom I can get on this one. Blessings, Dave --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Before I give up - database/spreadsheet features?
Hi Matt > I would need separate "queries" to look for tiddlers with missing or invalid data, different sorted lists, etc. < As long as you don't have missing data(or field-)names as a needed value in the first part of the fET it's not nessecary to make separate "queries" - they will just appear as "undefined" in the resulting list/ table. This way you will quickly get an overview and see what you haven't specified yet ie: <\n"' >> If you havn't specified author . it will be rendered as "undefined". Tables: <|>|>|>|>|>| !<\> |h\n" +"| # | Titel | [[Author|Sort by author]] | [[Theme|Sort by theme]] | Cover | Note | <\> |h\n"' end 'count+" books\n"' none '"no books \n"'>> Regards Måns Mårtensson On May 20, 11:10 pm, "Matt L." wrote: > Hi all, > I am very close to giving up hope that TW will fit my > requirements... > > I have various lists (books, movies, passwords, etc) that would fit > quite well in an advanced spreadsheet or database - sortable columns, > validated data, required fields, etc. I cannot seem to find any > functionality that encompasses all of these features easily. > > I have tried using the DataDB plugin, but it cannot sort on either the > display or editing modes, so it is easy to lose track of data (new > entries always end up on the bottom of the list). > > I am hesitant to try using a combination of DataTiddlerPlugin and > FormTiddlerPlugin and ForEachTiddlerPlugin - it seems like it would > take a fair bit of effort to set up. I would need separate "queries" > to look for tiddlers with missing or invalid data, different sorted > lists, etc. > > Using extended fields would not work either - they appear on every > tiddler, and would still require using the ForEachTiddler plugin to > generate lists and find missing data. > > Using a plain table and the TableSortingPlugin is okay for display > purposes, but has no validation and editing a table with a large > number of both rows and columns quickly becomes unmanageable. > > I couldn't find anything that cleanly allows me to edit table cells > inline (without going into edit mode). I even looked for external > tools and Firefox extensions. > > Does anyone have any ideas that I have not tried yet? If I cannot > come up with something else, I may just stick my "big lists" into > Google Docs and leave everything else in TW... > > Here is an example of one of my lists: > > BOOKS: > * Author > * Title > * Format (validated: ebook, audio, hardcover, softcover) > * Owned (validated and required - y/n) > * Year Read (blank allowed) > * Audiobook available from library (validated and required - y/n) > > Thanks in advance for any suggestions! > - Matt L. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Before I give up - database/spreadsheet features?
Hi Matt
I've learned to use fETs, sortable tables and formTemplates over the
past few months. This way I get automatically updated tables - and I'm
very happy with the results.
It's true that it won't happen for you if you want it to work in a
way that you are used to in spreadsheet applications - but in TW it's
much more "organic" and now I prefer TW's fET produced tables to the
spreadsheet way...
I have used Dave Giffords bibblywiki (http://www.giffmex.org/
bibblywiki.html) formtemplate and changed his very sparse fET lists
into sortable tables, and now I've got automatically updated sortable
tables.
When I change anything in the forms - it gets instantly reflected in
my tables. If I make a new tiddler tagged with AuthorBook, it gets
into the table right away - AND is sorted exactly as I defined in the
fET. ie: sortBy 'tiddler.title.toUpperCase()' or sortBy 'tiddler.data
("author")' or sortBy 'GroupTitle = tiddler.data("primtopic")
+"###"+tiddler.title'
In another context a found a way to view and edit fielddata from
inside a sortable table by using this syntax: | < linebreaks not to
break the table... but it's usable!!) You could simply have an
automatically generated wikilink to the tiddlers with the data, in
each row like this: [["+tiddler.title+"]] - when you click the link it
opens up the tiddler with the formtemplate, and you make your changes
directly in the tiddler. The tables are updated from these changes -
not the other way around...
I don't think you should give up yet. Take Dave Giffords bibblywiki
(http://www.giffmex.org/bibblywiki.html) for a spin - and make the
changes you want... I'm sure you will prefer it to the spreadsheet...
YS Måns Mårtensson
On May 20, 11:10 pm, "Matt L." wrote:
> Hi all,
> I am very close to giving up hope that TW will fit my
> requirements...
>
> I have various lists (books, movies, passwords, etc) that would fit
> quite well in an advanced spreadsheet or database - sortable columns,
> validated data, required fields, etc. I cannot seem to find any
> functionality that encompasses all of these features easily.
>
> I have tried using the DataDB plugin, but it cannot sort on either the
> display or editing modes, so it is easy to lose track of data (new
> entries always end up on the bottom of the list).
>
> I am hesitant to try using a combination of DataTiddlerPlugin and
> FormTiddlerPlugin and ForEachTiddlerPlugin - it seems like it would
> take a fair bit of effort to set up. I would need separate "queries"
> to look for tiddlers with missing or invalid data, different sorted
> lists, etc.
>
> Using extended fields would not work either - they appear on every
> tiddler, and would still require using the ForEachTiddler plugin to
> generate lists and find missing data.
>
> Using a plain table and the TableSortingPlugin is okay for display
> purposes, but has no validation and editing a table with a large
> number of both rows and columns quickly becomes unmanageable.
>
> I couldn't find anything that cleanly allows me to edit table cells
> inline (without going into edit mode). I even looked for external
> tools and Firefox extensions.
>
> Does anyone have any ideas that I have not tried yet? If I cannot
> come up with something else, I may just stick my "big lists" into
> Google Docs and leave everything else in TW...
>
> Here is an example of one of my lists:
>
> BOOKS:
> * Author
> * Title
> * Format (validated: ebook, audio, hardcover, softcover)
> * Owned (validated and required - y/n)
> * Year Read (blank allowed)
> * Audiobook available from library (validated and required - y/n)
>
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions!
> - Matt L.
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[tw] Re: Before I give up - database/spreadsheet features?
Take a look at: http://no-sin.com/wiki/WorkTracker.html#Completed I use custom templates/fields, HideWhen, ForEach, TableSorting, ToggleTag, etc. Try using "add new request" button to see how I add new entries. Yes, it is a lot to set up at first, but once it is in there, it is nothing to do. Make each row in your list be a tiddler, then have them all linked together by some common denominator, like all tiddler tagged 'book'. Refine it further in a different tiddler by adding in more conditions (All books where the author is "Elizabeth Donald"). Also if you look at the "Search - Assigned to" tiddler you can see an example of a customized search that uses a preset field to match. Ken Girard On May 20, 4:10 pm, "Matt L." wrote: > Hi all, > I am very close to giving up hope that TW will fit my > requirements... > > I have various lists (books, movies, passwords, etc) that would fit > quite well in an advanced spreadsheet or database - sortable columns, > validated data, required fields, etc. I cannot seem to find any > functionality that encompasses all of these features easily. > > I have tried using the DataDB plugin, but it cannot sort on either the > display or editing modes, so it is easy to lose track of data (new > entries always end up on the bottom of the list). > > I am hesitant to try using a combination of DataTiddlerPlugin and > FormTiddlerPlugin and ForEachTiddlerPlugin - it seems like it would > take a fair bit of effort to set up. I would need separate "queries" > to look for tiddlers with missing or invalid data, different sorted > lists, etc. > > Using extended fields would not work either - they appear on every > tiddler, and would still require using the ForEachTiddler plugin to > generate lists and find missing data. > > Using a plain table and the TableSortingPlugin is okay for display > purposes, but has no validation and editing a table with a large > number of both rows and columns quickly becomes unmanageable. > > I couldn't find anything that cleanly allows me to edit table cells > inline (without going into edit mode). I even looked for external > tools and Firefox extensions. > > Does anyone have any ideas that I have not tried yet? If I cannot > come up with something else, I may just stick my "big lists" into > Google Docs and leave everything else in TW... > > Here is an example of one of my lists: > > BOOKS: > * Author > * Title > * Format (validated: ebook, audio, hardcover, softcover) > * Owned (validated and required - y/n) > * Year Read (blank allowed) > * Audiobook available from library (validated and required - y/n) > > Thanks in advance for any suggestions! > - Matt L. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Here's an example of a tree structure (treeview) implemented on TW
The code I'm seeing on your site says version 0.2. The current code should say 0.21. Maybe you didn't upload after experimenting? Just checking. Thanks, Mark On May 20, 12:47 pm, Morris Gray wrote: > Hi Mark, > > I've been unsuccessful in making antisesame work on my site. I've > disabled your other versions, tried it on various little branches, I > copied and pasted your antisesame code (but not your tiddlers I admit) > I am a bit thick in the head right now though. > > Perhaps you could try it on the latest version of my site since that's > what I tried it on. You got it all fresh in your mind so you might > find I was doing something wrong. > > Oh I did notice the +s and -s do get mixed up when trees are open on > startup, I think that was always the case. > > Morris > > On May 21, 4:24 am, "Mark S." wrote: > > > Hi Morris, > > > I've just updated plugin2 with a new, undocumented feature. > > Undocumented, because we'll have to see if its worth it. > > > Now when you specify the settings, you can specify a "sesame" and an > > "antisesame" tag. Like > > > 'collapsed: false, antisesame: "closed" ' > > > "sesame" (case matters) gives the name of the tag to indicate that a > > tiddler should be OPEN by default. "antisesame" gives the name of the > > tag to indicate that a tiddler should be CLOSED by default. > > > So far, I haven't found any use for "sesame" -- in fact, I'm not > > entirely sure that it works -- it may be that it only works when you > > have a rootless tree. > > > But for your purposes, the 'antisesame' does seem to work. So if you > > say that you want a menu to be open (collapsed: false), but specify > > 'antisesame' as "closed", and then tag each of the tier two menu items > > with "closed", then the tree will be open, but each of the branches > > will be closed. > > > I allow you to specify your own tags, in case you're already using > > "open" and "closed" for something, or in case you want to have > > different menu trees with different defaults. > > > The extra code to do this may slow things down a bit ... not sure. > > Seems fine on FF so far. Oh, code seems to work on IE 6 so far as > > well ... if you want to put that on your front page. > > > Persistence problems ... well, one thing at a time ;-) > > > Thanks, > > Mark > > > On May 20, 2:51 am, Morris Gray wrote: > > > > On May 20, 1:53 pm, "Mark S." wrote: > > > > Well done Mark. I have added Plugin2 to my site. It is working just > > > fine, have a look. > > > > For a big menu like I'm using to see how it feels; opening the whole > > > thing is a bit over the top. > > > > However I put it in the persist state and it remembers where it was > > > when you last had it open during any session but doesn't persist with > > > a reload. > > > > The next problem is how to keep it partially open because I'd like a > > > chosen number of top levels to be open on startup. You might be > > > interested to know that my first three levels are three different > > > tiddlers and are where they are because of tags. However they > > > obviously inherit the open all command. > > > > > I hope you don't mind, but I've borrowed your stylesheet setup. > > > > Not at all but we do need to work something out for the images > > > though. I can't guarantee I can keep them on my site for everyone for > > > all time. You might try ImageShack. > > > > Keep on truckin' :-) > > > > Morris > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Before I give up - database/spreadsheet features?
Hi all, I am very close to giving up hope that TW will fit my requirements... I have various lists (books, movies, passwords, etc) that would fit quite well in an advanced spreadsheet or database - sortable columns, validated data, required fields, etc. I cannot seem to find any functionality that encompasses all of these features easily. I have tried using the DataDB plugin, but it cannot sort on either the display or editing modes, so it is easy to lose track of data (new entries always end up on the bottom of the list). I am hesitant to try using a combination of DataTiddlerPlugin and FormTiddlerPlugin and ForEachTiddlerPlugin - it seems like it would take a fair bit of effort to set up. I would need separate "queries" to look for tiddlers with missing or invalid data, different sorted lists, etc. Using extended fields would not work either - they appear on every tiddler, and would still require using the ForEachTiddler plugin to generate lists and find missing data. Using a plain table and the TableSortingPlugin is okay for display purposes, but has no validation and editing a table with a large number of both rows and columns quickly becomes unmanageable. I couldn't find anything that cleanly allows me to edit table cells inline (without going into edit mode). I even looked for external tools and Firefox extensions. Does anyone have any ideas that I have not tried yet? If I cannot come up with something else, I may just stick my "big lists" into Google Docs and leave everything else in TW... Here is an example of one of my lists: BOOKS: * Author * Title * Format (validated: ebook, audio, hardcover, softcover) * Owned (validated and required - y/n) * Year Read (blank allowed) * Audiobook available from library (validated and required - y/n) Thanks in advance for any suggestions! - Matt L. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: FatSlicePlugin
Thanks Paul, I'll give it a try... DP On May 20, 3:38 am, "Paul Downey (psd)" wrote: > > There's a discussion > > here:http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki/browse_frm/thread/546c0d777... > > > ...back in October about this experimental plugin that gives you > > "slices with multiple columns" > > I think the word "experimental" was really around whether the > functionality was suitable for inclusion in the core. I don't think > that conversation has moved on since then. > > The plugin is here: > > http://whatfettle.com/2008/07/FatSlicePlugin/ > http://svn.tiddlywiki.org/Trunk/contributors/PaulDowney/plugins/FatSl... > > > Is this something that will be worked on any further? > > Well, it does what I needed at the time, and little more. > > > What I mean is, > > should I be using this in a big project, or is there a more current/ > > stable way of doing the same thing now? > > Not that I'm aware of .. I suggest you give it a whirl, and let me > know if you have any issues .. I'm keen for this not to balloon, so > might push back on requests for new features, but that doesn't stop > you or anyone else building a version which better suites their needs, > in fact I'd encourage that since there may indeed be better approaches > in this area worth exploring. > > Paul (psd) > --http://blog.whatfettle.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Appearance Settings issues in non-Firefox Browsers
Thanks so much. It works perfectly. I tried something similar and PluginManager found an error every time. On May 20, 4:06 pm, Eric Shulman wrote: > > On my site I would ideally like the animations to be off by default > > and the SinglePageMode Plugin to display one tiddler at a time and it > > works fantastically in firefox. In any other browser, however, neither > > of these work. (Safari, Opera, and IE tested) Is there a way to fix > > this or is firefox the only browser that can work properly? > > Settings are usually stored as cookies. However, some browsers seem > to have problems with cookies for locally-stored (file://) documents. > In addition, because the cookies are tied to a specific browser, the > settings don't travel with the document, so that if you view it with a > different browser (or on a different system), your local cookie-based > settings are not applied. > > Fortunately, it is possible to "hard code" a setting so that it *will* > travel with the document, regardless of where it is stored or what > browser/system is used to view it: > > First, create a tiddler called [[CookieJar]], containing lines like > this: > > config.options.chkAnimate=false; > config.options.chkSinglePageMode=true; > > Next, tag that tiddler with 'systemConfig' (so it will can be > processed as a plugin) > > Then, save and reload your document. During startup, the lines of > code in the CookieJar will be invoked, and the values indicated will > be applied, overriding any local cookie value that may (or may not) be > defined for those settings. > > Note: to make the CookieJar settings easier to maintain, you might > want to try: > http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#CookieManagerPlugin > In particular, you should check out the "bake cookies" button, which > will automatically generate the CookieJar contents from the current > cookie-based settings. You can then edit the resulting CookieJar to > tailor the settings to your needs. > > enjoy, > -e > Eric Shulman > TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Extended fields...other input types?
> ...unfortunately I realized once I tried it that by definition these > custom fields will appear on every tiddler - thereby defeating my > purpose of data integrity. http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#TaggedTemplateTweak provides a kind of 'typed' tiddler mechanism that associates a custom ViewTemplate and/or EditTemplate with particular tiddlers by tagging them with a specific tag value that is also used as a prefix on the custom template titles. For example, with TaggedTemplateTweak installed, any tiddlers tagged with 'book' (or 'Book') could automatically use BookViewTemplate/BookEditTemplate, while tiddlers tagged with 'movie' would use MovieViewTemplate/MoveEditTemplate. enjoy, -e Eric Shulman TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Here's an example of a tree structure (treeview) implemented on TW
Hi Mark, I've been unsuccessful in making antisesame work on my site. I've disabled your other versions, tried it on various little branches, I copied and pasted your antisesame code (but not your tiddlers I admit) I am a bit thick in the head right now though. Perhaps you could try it on the latest version of my site since that's what I tried it on. You got it all fresh in your mind so you might find I was doing something wrong. Oh I did notice the +s and -s do get mixed up when trees are open on startup, I think that was always the case. Morris On May 21, 4:24 am, "Mark S." wrote: > Hi Morris, > > I've just updated plugin2 with a new, undocumented feature. > Undocumented, because we'll have to see if its worth it. > > Now when you specify the settings, you can specify a "sesame" and an > "antisesame" tag. Like > > 'collapsed: false, antisesame: "closed" ' > > "sesame" (case matters) gives the name of the tag to indicate that a > tiddler should be OPEN by default. "antisesame" gives the name of the > tag to indicate that a tiddler should be CLOSED by default. > > So far, I haven't found any use for "sesame" -- in fact, I'm not > entirely sure that it works -- it may be that it only works when you > have a rootless tree. > > But for your purposes, the 'antisesame' does seem to work. So if you > say that you want a menu to be open (collapsed: false), but specify > 'antisesame' as "closed", and then tag each of the tier two menu items > with "closed", then the tree will be open, but each of the branches > will be closed. > > I allow you to specify your own tags, in case you're already using > "open" and "closed" for something, or in case you want to have > different menu trees with different defaults. > > The extra code to do this may slow things down a bit ... not sure. > Seems fine on FF so far. Oh, code seems to work on IE 6 so far as > well ... if you want to put that on your front page. > > Persistence problems ... well, one thing at a time ;-) > > Thanks, > Mark > > On May 20, 2:51 am, Morris Gray wrote: > > > On May 20, 1:53 pm, "Mark S." wrote: > > > Well done Mark. I have added Plugin2 to my site. It is working just > > fine, have a look. > > > For a big menu like I'm using to see how it feels; opening the whole > > thing is a bit over the top. > > > However I put it in the persist state and it remembers where it was > > when you last had it open during any session but doesn't persist with > > a reload. > > > The next problem is how to keep it partially open because I'd like a > > chosen number of top levels to be open on startup. You might be > > interested to know that my first three levels are three different > > tiddlers and are where they are because of tags. However they > > obviously inherit the open all command. > > > > I hope you don't mind, but I've borrowed your stylesheet setup. > > > Not at all but we do need to work something out for the images > > though. I can't guarantee I can keep them on my site for everyone for > > all time. You might try ImageShack. > > > Keep on truckin' :-) > > > Morris --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Extended fields...other input types?
Thanks Eric! That is what I was looking for... ...unfortunately I realized once I tried it that by definition these custom fields will appear on every tiddler - thereby defeating my purpose of data integrity. Thanks again for your help! Sorry to have wasted your time... - Matt L. On May 20, 10:50 am, Eric Shulman wrote: > > In my quest to make TW easily usable for database-like purposes, I > > started looking at extended fields. Adding a simple text input field > > is easy, but is it possible to add a drop-down list field instead? > > Try this: > http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#ListboxPlugin > http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#ListboxPluginInfo > > enjoy, > -e --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Appearance Settings issues in non-Firefox Browsers
> On my site I would ideally like the animations to be off by default > and the SinglePageMode Plugin to display one tiddler at a time and it > works fantastically in firefox. In any other browser, however, neither > of these work. (Safari, Opera, and IE tested) Is there a way to fix > this or is firefox the only browser that can work properly? Settings are usually stored as cookies. However, some browsers seem to have problems with cookies for locally-stored (file://) documents. In addition, because the cookies are tied to a specific browser, the settings don't travel with the document, so that if you view it with a different browser (or on a different system), your local cookie-based settings are not applied. Fortunately, it is possible to "hard code" a setting so that it *will* travel with the document, regardless of where it is stored or what browser/system is used to view it: First, create a tiddler called [[CookieJar]], containing lines like this: config.options.chkAnimate=false; config.options.chkSinglePageMode=true; Next, tag that tiddler with 'systemConfig' (so it will can be processed as a plugin) Then, save and reload your document. During startup, the lines of code in the CookieJar will be invoked, and the values indicated will be applied, overriding any local cookie value that may (or may not) be defined for those settings. Note: to make the CookieJar settings easier to maintain, you might want to try: http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#CookieManagerPlugin In particular, you should check out the "bake cookies" button, which will automatically generate the CookieJar contents from the current cookie-based settings. You can then edit the resulting CookieJar to tailor the settings to your needs. enjoy, -e Eric Shulman TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Appearance Settings issues in non-Firefox Browsers
On my site I would ideally like the animations to be off by default and the SinglePageMode Plugin to display one tiddler at a time and it works fantastically in firefox. In any other browser, however, neither of these work. (Safari, Opera, and IE tested) Is there a way to fix this or is firefox the only browser that can work properly? Thanks, Chris --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Here's an example of a tree structure (treeview) implemented on TW
On May 20, 2009, at 2:24 PM, Mark S. wrote: > I've just updated plugin2 with a new, undocumented feature. > Undocumented, because we'll have to see if its worth it. Somewhere TreeView was described as being "like Windows Explorer." I think I know the answer, but thought I would ask to make sure, and to get the feature request out there: Might it be possible to provide for rearranging items in the tree, e.g., by dragging? I wonder also about controlling tiddlers from the tree, e.g., close a selected tiddler, all tiddlers at a node, or ranges of tiddlers and nodes of tiddlers. Probably asking a lot, but they say, "If you don't know ask." Regards, -- Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@bellsouth.net --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Title Right?
>> I'm sure we could bore everyone here to tears with this stuff. If you >> want to discuss it, maybe we should take it to e-mail? > > You could, but so far it doesn't bore. So please stay here for the > lurkers around... ;-) Ditto. I for one would be happy if people at least adopted UTC - but even that seems unlikely. -- F. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Here's an example of a tree structure (treeview) implemented on TW
Hi Morris, I've just updated plugin2 with a new, undocumented feature. Undocumented, because we'll have to see if its worth it. Now when you specify the settings, you can specify a "sesame" and an "antisesame" tag. Like 'collapsed: false, antisesame: "closed" ' "sesame" (case matters) gives the name of the tag to indicate that a tiddler should be OPEN by default. "antisesame" gives the name of the tag to indicate that a tiddler should be CLOSED by default. So far, I haven't found any use for "sesame" -- in fact, I'm not entirely sure that it works -- it may be that it only works when you have a rootless tree. But for your purposes, the 'antisesame' does seem to work. So if you say that you want a menu to be open (collapsed: false), but specify 'antisesame' as "closed", and then tag each of the tier two menu items with "closed", then the tree will be open, but each of the branches will be closed. I allow you to specify your own tags, in case you're already using "open" and "closed" for something, or in case you want to have different menu trees with different defaults. The extra code to do this may slow things down a bit ... not sure. Seems fine on FF so far. Oh, code seems to work on IE 6 so far as well ... if you want to put that on your front page. Persistence problems ... well, one thing at a time ;-) Thanks, Mark On May 20, 2:51 am, Morris Gray wrote: > On May 20, 1:53 pm, "Mark S." wrote: > > Well done Mark. I have added Plugin2 to my site. It is working just > fine, have a look. > > For a big menu like I'm using to see how it feels; opening the whole > thing is a bit over the top. > > However I put it in the persist state and it remembers where it was > when you last had it open during any session but doesn't persist with > a reload. > > The next problem is how to keep it partially open because I'd like a > chosen number of top levels to be open on startup. You might be > interested to know that my first three levels are three different > tiddlers and are where they are because of tags. However they > obviously inherit the open all command. > > > I hope you don't mind, but I've borrowed your stylesheet setup. > > Not at all but we do need to work something out for the images > though. I can't guarantee I can keep them on my site for everyone for > all time. You might try ImageShack. > > Keep on truckin' :-) > > Morris > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Treeview comments and bugs
Transferred from thread http://tinyurl.com/o37b47 because bloat. On May 21, 1:01 am, Mike Norman wrote: > I tried the experimental treeview and it worked on my system (WinXP/ > SP3, Firefox 3.0.10); however, when > I navigated away, the portion of the page where the Menu was did not > get re-drawn by FF - tried a couple > different sites, forced a refresh: nothing worked. Somehow, the Menu > 'damage' doesn't get 'repaired'. > > Anyone else see this? Are you talking about: http://twt-notes-treeview-experimental.tiddlyspot.com/ Built on FF3.05 - Vista , tested on IE7 and Chrome You say you've tried a couple of different sites; was it your own implementation of TreeView plugin? It sounds like a CSS problem. There have been several ways of accessing the CSS and images floating around. I've changed the name of the CSS tiddler from jquery.treeview.css to JqueryTreeviewCSS because something didn't like the dots. The latest instructions are under SetUp on the Treeview menus. I've put a version number on it now to avoid confusion I've started with Version: 1.0.1 Please keep us informed. Morris --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Title Right?
Hi Tim, hello All, rtimwest wrote: > I'm sure we could bore everyone here to tears with this stuff. If you > want to discuss it, maybe we should take it to e-mail? You could, but so far it doesn't bore. So please stay here for the lurkers around... ;-) Regards! Dirk -- signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[tw] Re: Title Right?
Morris, Thanks for the kind words. No amount of experience in the proprietary world of PL/SQL gives much in the way of tools to contribute to free software, I'm glad for the opportunity. The program itself should get a lot better in the next few iterations. > and zero time begins at an odd > place at a factory. It's awkward to convert and really depends on > everyone adopting it completely after an extremely difficult learning > curve which will never happen. Not sure I understand why it matters when zero time begins in any one location? > Then I discovered NET time. It begins at Greenwich and goes from 0 to > 360, The units are degrees which means each degree is 4 minutes long > so there is 15 degrees in an hour. That makes it easy to convert to > the old local time anywhere in the world by knowing the longitude. > It runs parallel with local time and is easily adapted to learn and > can be converted to conventional local time in your head for reference > if needed Interesting, I haven't run across that. I'll look into it, but I'm... not yet convinced. Seems that you'd lose most of the advantages of .beats (one of which is that it's entirely separate from the old system), but I'll study the issue. I'm sure we could bore everyone here to tears with this stuff. If you want to discuss it, maybe we should take it to e-mail? Mine is on the site. > Looking at your plugin it seems it could easily be converted to NET > time. http://newearthtime.net/I'd like to try if I can't convince > you to :-) If I understand the basics, seems like an easy mod. If I do it, I think you just volunteered to test it. ;-) I wonder if it would be preferable to have them as separate plugins, or to have one that just adds more time systems to TiddlyWiki? I can think of arguments for both sides... having one cuts down on redundancy, there'd be no need to stack very similar code. On the other hand, how many people would ever want to use more than one alternate time system at once? I wonder if making one catchall program might make it harder to find (by program name or whatever) for those interested in one particular system? Anyone have any thoughts? > Speaking of plugins there is a standard format that is used that you > might have a look at. Knew I'd have to deal with that when moving from macros to plugins, if not before. > Also I think you modified the TW core with some > of your styling. This causes trouble because of the frequent updates > of the core. Nope. At least, don't think so. Not sure what "styling" you're referring to in particular, but the Internet Time program certainly does nothing of that sort. I added a few characters to the button label and button prompt mostly to aid my own debugging, but that's about to go away since we're losing interest in any particular application of the code anyway (fine by me, I'm a back-end programmer by nature). Other than that, nothing. I have a couple of other substitute macros that I'm using on the site, but they're just mostly just wrappers for the core macros, no low- level stuff. Tim > > On May 20, 9:40 pm, rtimwest wrote: > > > I've got a "non-techie" question.. > > > I did a Google image search, and virtually nobody's TiddlyWiki site > > (always excluding yours, Eric) has much of anything up in the upper > > right corner, title or subtitle areas. > > > Is it just that there's no convenient (non-programmer) way to float > > something to the right in that area, or is there a real downside to > > doing it? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Here's an example of a tree structure (treeview) implemented on TW
I tried the experimental treeview and it worked on my system (WinXP/ SP3, Firefox 3.0.10); however, when I navigated away, the portion of the page where the Menu was did not get re-drawn by FF - tried a couple different sites, forced a refresh: nothing worked. Somehow, the Menu 'damage' doesn't get 'repaired'. Anyone else see this? Mike Norman On May 20, 3:33 am, Morris Gray wrote: > On May 20, 9:57 am, IainS wrote: > > > Am I missing something - what does it look like at the end? It sounds > > interesting but I am not sure what it looks like and not sure whether > > I have the time to try it out. > > To see it working you only have to click here: > > http://twt-notes-treeview-experimental.tiddlyspot.com/ > > If and when you get time you can download it and experiment. > Instructions are provided to try it in your own TW but you will need > something like that in the above link to add items to the menu > easily. Or you can add the tags manually. > > Hi Dickon, > > I tried it in you site offline and it works perfectly whether it works > on TiddlyWeb you will have to try it. > > Morris > > On May 20, 9:57 am, IainS wrote: > > > Am I missing something - what does it look like at the end? It sounds > > interesting but I am not sure what it looks like and not sure whether > > I have the time to try it out. > > > Iain > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Extended fields...other input types?
> In my quest to make TW easily usable for database-like purposes, I > started looking at extended fields. Adding a simple text input field > is easy, but is it possible to add a drop-down list field instead? Try this: http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#ListboxPlugin http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#ListboxPluginInfo enjoy, -e --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Title Right?
> I did a Google image search, and virtually nobody's TiddlyWiki site > (always excluding yours, Eric) has much of anything up in the upper > right corner, title or subtitle areas. Welcome to the Group Tim. The empty space is an old (western culture) marketing technique :-) Empty space draws your eye away from it to the important information to the left from which one is used to start reading. However it would be a good place to put a clock, if it is the right one :-) I like your beat time clock, a sterling achievement. I looked at Swatch time some time ago had an applet on my site and studied its implications. The trouble is it was designed for commercial reasons to sell watches and zero time begins at an odd place at a factory. It's awkward to convert and really depends on everyone adopting it completely after an extremely difficult learning curve which will never happen. Then I discovered NET time. It begins at Greenwich and goes from 0 to 360, The units are degrees which means each degree is 4 minutes long so there is 15 degrees in an hour. That makes it easy to convert to the old local time anywhere in the world by knowing the longitude. It runs parallel with local time and is easily adapted to learn and can be converted to conventional local time in your head for reference if needed Looking at your plugin it seems it could easily be converted to NET time. http://newearthtime.net/ I'd like to try if I can't convince you to :-) Speaking of plugins there is a standard format that is used that you might have a look at. Also I think you modified the TW core with some of your styling. This causes trouble because of the frequent updates of the core. There are shadow tiddlers for that like MarkupPostBody, MarkupPostHead, MarkupPreBody, and MarkupPreHead for scripts and styling. Anyhow I think it's good to have a professional database man in the group :-) Morris On May 20, 9:40 pm, rtimwest wrote: > I've got a "non-techie" question.. > > I did a Google image search, and virtually nobody's TiddlyWiki site > (always excluding yours, Eric) has much of anything up in the upper > right corner, title or subtitle areas. > > Is it just that there's no convenient (non-programmer) way to float > something to the right in that area, or is there a real downside to > doing it? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Extended fields...other input types?
Hi all, In my quest to make TW easily usable for database-like purposes, I started looking at extended fields. Adding a simple text input field is easy, but is it possible to add a drop-down list field instead? I want to ensure data integrity, so I need to make sure input is limited to valid entries. For example, I want to use separate TW's for my book list, movie list and password list. On my book list, I would like to see a drop-down of what type of book it is - hardcover, softcover, audio or ebook. On my movie list, I want to know if I own it or wish to buy it or neither. I have tried using the DataDB plugin, but it has some features missing that I need - like sorting. I am hesitant to try using a combination of DataTiddlerPlugin and FormTiddlerPlugin and ForEachTiddlerPlugin - it seems like it would take a fair bit of effort to set up. If anyone has any other suggestions of features I have missed, I am more than open to ideas. Thanks! - Matt L. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] javascript how to sort datatiddler
I use the script below, it should sort on name and show 10 tiddlers,
name is a data tiddler field, with normal field it works fine, this
data field is not recognised.
var out="";
var tids=store.sortTiddlers(store.getTaggedTiddlers
("vld"),DataTiddler.getData(tiddler.title,("name")));
for (var t=0; t
[tw] Title Right?
I've got a "non-techie" question.. I did a Google image search, and virtually nobody's TiddlyWiki site (always excluding yours, Eric) has much of anything up in the upper right corner, title or subtitle areas. Is it just that there's no convenient (non-programmer) way to float something to the right in that area, or is there a real downside to doing it? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Here's an example of a tree structure (treeview) implemented on TW
On May 20, 1:53 pm, "Mark S." wrote: Well done Mark. I have added Plugin2 to my site. It is working just fine, have a look. For a big menu like I'm using to see how it feels; opening the whole thing is a bit over the top. However I put it in the persist state and it remembers where it was when you last had it open during any session but doesn't persist with a reload. The next problem is how to keep it partially open because I'd like a chosen number of top levels to be open on startup. You might be interested to know that my first three levels are three different tiddlers and are where they are because of tags. However they obviously inherit the open all command. > I hope you don't mind, but I've borrowed your stylesheet setup. Not at all but we do need to work something out for the images though. I can't guarantee I can keep them on my site for everyone for all time. You might try ImageShack. Keep on truckin' :-) Morris On May 20, 1:53 pm, "Mark S." wrote: > Thanks for the encouragement, Morris. > > I've just made an update. There is now a new macro (treeview2 off of > TreeviewPluginPlugin2) that will allow you to specify the other tree > styles and some basic settings such as animation, collapse state, > speed. > > I hope you don't mind, but I've borrowed your stylesheet setup so > maybe people won't be so puzzled when they see the site and wonder > what its supposed to do. I've also put a referral to your site in the > opening text. Let me know if you want it worded differently or more > prominently ;-) > > Thanks, > Mark > > On May 18, 4:43 pm, Morris Gray wrote: > > > On May 19, 7:36 am, "Mark S." wrote: > > > > Hi Morris, > > > > Looking good. > > > > The way you installed the CSS, by putting the name of the tiddler, is > > > that standard TW, or is there a plugin that makes that possible? > > > Oh I just named the CSS tiddler the name of the javascript because I > > was lazy and copied and pasted, also I turned it off and on so many > > times it stood out in the Timeline so I could find it easily... Its > > just a tiddler name. What you might not have noticed is that it is > > inserted near the bottom of my messy StyleSheet as a nested > > stylesheet. > > > By the way you've done a wonderful job on the plugin for first time > > around... or any time around for that matter :-) > > > I basically set up my site to save you time so you would have an > > actual working situation to run it through the mill and get it to the > > release stage that much quicker. There has been a lot of people > > waiting a long time for something like this. > > > I've been changing it and uploading it constantly so get the latest > > version. I'm going to give it a rest now. > > >http://twt-notes-treeview-experimental.tiddlyspot.com/index.html > > > A very tired Morris :-) > > > On May 19, 7:36 am, "Mark S." wrote: > > > > Hi Morris, > > > > Looking good. > > > > The way you installed the CSS, by putting the name of the tiddler, is > > > that standard TW, or is there a plugin that makes that possible? > > > > Thanks, > > > Mark > > > > On May 18, 1:02 pm, Morris Gray wrote: > > > > > On May 19, 2:47 am, "Mark S." wrote: > > > > > > Just a guess, but I suspect that the server at dynamicdrive stops > > > > > serving up the all-important images after it has been hit by a 3rd > > > > > party site more than 3 or 4 times. Think this may be a common > > > > > technique to prevent abuse. BUT, if you download the TW file, and open > > > > > from your own system, I think you'll find that it works. Possibly dc > > > > > doesn't care if local pages use their images. > > > > > I think I've worked a few bugs out. I don't see the refresh problem > > > > however I did put the images on my own site because I felt > > > > uncomfortable accessing DynamicDrive. It is now independent I think > > > > except for the images. Perhaps Eric will tell us a way to access the > > > > images via CSS using the Attach plugin. > > > > > I think I've 'almost' got everything working now. It needs tidying up > > > > a lot but I've rushed some instructions. > > > > > Please give it a try and add a few things and see what needs fixing. > > > > >http://twt-notes-treeview-experimental.tiddlyspot.com/index.html > > > > > Morris > > > > > On May 19, 2:47 am, "Mark S." wrote: > > > > > > Hah! And now I have the same problem! On all remotely hosted TW's. But > > > > > everything is OK on locally hosted TW's. > > > > > > If you go to Morris' site, and refresh a couple times, you may find it > > > > > stops working there as well. > > > > > > Just a guess, but I suspect that the server at dynamicdrive stops > > > > > serving up the all-important images after it has been hit by a 3rd > > > > > party site more than 3 or 4 times. Think this may be a common > > > > > technique to prevent abuse. BUT, if you download the TW file, and open > > > > > from your own system, I think you'll find that it works. Possibly dc > > > > > doesn't care if local p
[tw] Re: FatSlicePlugin
> There's a discussion > here:http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki/browse_frm/thread/546c0d777... > > ...back in October about this experimental plugin that gives you > "slices with multiple columns" I think the word "experimental" was really around whether the functionality was suitable for inclusion in the core. I don't think that conversation has moved on since then. The plugin is here: http://whatfettle.com/2008/07/FatSlicePlugin/ http://svn.tiddlywiki.org/Trunk/contributors/PaulDowney/plugins/FatSlicePlugin/ > Is this something that will be worked on any further? Well, it does what I needed at the time, and little more. > What I mean is, > should I be using this in a big project, or is there a more current/ > stable way of doing the same thing now? Not that I'm aware of .. I suggest you give it a whirl, and let me know if you have any issues .. I'm keen for this not to balloon, so might push back on requests for new features, but that doesn't stop you or anyone else building a version which better suites their needs, in fact I'd encourage that since there may indeed be better approaches in this area worth exploring. Paul (psd) -- http://blog.whatfettle.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: PrettyLink to a macro.. Swatch Internet Time in TiddlyWiki
Eric,
Thanks for taking a look. I'll respond to this and then move any
further discussion to the other section.
I think we're very much on the same page; this first (pre-Alpha)
version does leverage Date.formatString, n times for however many "@@"
Biel-date strings (probably should be once for all), and again with
the whole string for local datetime, just as you suggest. The big
difference in what you're saying seems to be the point of
interception, that the replacement macro really isn't necessary, and I
agree that the hijack approach on the Date method itself is much more
elegant.
Not sure I would have had the audacity to try it as a first attempt
even if I had been aware that the hijack syntax applied to core
objects (it's doing that with button object, I wasn't thinking of
broader applications at the time), but I will. Should be fun.
It's going to need another name...
Thanks.
On May 19, 11:01 pm, Eric Shulman wrote:
> > A couple of days ago it occurred to me that it might be preferable to
> > have the core date-handling routine as a stand-alone pure Javascript
> > function (declared as a window variable), so that it could be called
> > by any other program in TiddlyWiki... or maybe even ported elsewhere.
> > If anyone decides to critique the code, please keep in mind that less
> > than three weeks ago I had never touched a line of Javascript.
>
> Even though you are just starting out with both TiddlyWiki and
> Javascript, it's quite apparent that you 'grok' software, and you've
> done reasonably well by following the patterns in the existing code.
> However, for this particular use-case, there may be a *much* simpler,
> more generalized way to add your functionality...
>
> The key is to know that the TW core is already defining an
> extended .formatString() method that converts standard JS Date()
> objects into formatted text strings, using specified 'date format
> codes':
> --
> Date.prototype.formatString = function(template)
> {
> var t = template.replace(/0hh12/g,String.zeroPad(this.getHours12(),
> 2));
> t = t.replace(/hh12/g,this.getHours12());
> t = t.replace(/0hh/g,String.zeroPad(this.getHours(),2));
> ...
> t = t.replace(/\\/g,"");
> return t;};
>
> -
> When applied to a date object ('this'), the function uses regular
> expressions to selectively match and replace the various format codes
> (e.g., "0hh12", "hh12", etc.) contained in the input parameter
> ('template') with their respective values and then returns the
> resulting text string.
>
> For your purposes, all you really want to do is to add your "bbb.bb"
> and @...@ format processing to the existing .formatString() code, so
> that use of the SIT format codes with all *existing* TW features --
> including the core's <> macro, as well as any plugins that
> render formatted dates -- without needing any new macro definitions at
> all!
>
> The best way to do this is to *hijack* the existing function, like
> this:
>
> //save existing function
> Date.prototype.formatString_SIT_orig=Date.prototype.formatString;
> //redefine function
> Date.prototype.formatString = function(template) {
> ... SIT processing goes here ...
> ... replaces "bbb.bb" and "@...@" sequences in template ...
> // let core do rest of the work...
> return this.formatString_SIT_orig(template);
>
> }
>
> When .formatString() is invoked, any SIT format sequences in the input
> 'template' (date format string) are first replaced with their
> respective output text (e.g. 921.54) and then the modified template is
> passed on to the core so any remaining format codes can be converted.
>
> Of course, the specific code for "SIT processing" is up to you to
> figure out... but I think you get the idea...
>
> enjoy,
> -e
> Eric Shulman
> TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
>
> note: in order to avoid becoming too "tech heavy" in this group,
> further discussions about TiddlyWiki plugin development and javascript
> programming techniques should be moved to the TiddlyWikiDev group.
> Thanks.
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[tw] Re: Here's an example of a tree structure (treeview) implemented on TW
It looks fantastic. May I suggest something for a future tweek: make it so that it works without external files. Maybe characters can be used for the line such as : _ | – ALex 2009/5/20 Morris Gray : > > On May 20, 9:57 am, IainS wrote: >> Am I missing something - what does it look like at the end? It sounds >> interesting but I am not sure what it looks like and not sure whether >> I have the time to try it out. > > To see it working you only have to click here: > > http://twt-notes-treeview-experimental.tiddlyspot.com/ > > If and when you get time you can download it and experiment. > Instructions are provided to try it in your own TW but you will need > something like that in the above link to add items to the menu > easily. Or you can add the tags manually. > > Hi Dickon, > > I tried it in you site offline and it works perfectly whether it works > on TiddlyWeb you will have to try it. > > Morris > > On May 20, 9:57 am, IainS wrote: >> Am I missing something - what does it look like at the end? It sounds >> interesting but I am not sure what it looks like and not sure whether >> I have the time to try it out. >> >> Iain > > > -- t: 0161 442 2202 m: 0781 372 50 17 skype: alexhough delicious: alexhough --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Strange. default values in config tiddler not reset after reload on local TW, yet on online version its ok.
Removing trasnclusion of values solves this problem. Somehow, old values get caught up in transclusion. 2009/5/20 Alex Hough : > I think it is when values are transcluded into other tiddlers that > they are not refreshed. on my example, i transcluded twice. > > > > Alex > > 2009/5/20 alex : >> >> If anyone else gets this problem, I solved it by adding the variables >> using inline script. The script is executed when the tiddler is >> loaded, so the default values are defined right before they are >> needed, not at the outset. Is this a good practice? >> >> ALex >> >> On May 19, 10:11 pm, alex wrote: >>> its a problem with firefox. fine in safari. >>> >>> browser = Firefox/3.0.10 >>> >>> I've tried clearing cookies and clearing private data - there some >>> values i added ages ago that won't go away, won't get overwriten by >>> the default values. >>> >>> Alex >>> >>> On May 19, 9:37 pm, Alex Hough wrote: >>> >>> > DefaultValues tidder contains the below is tagged with systemConfig. >>> > When viewed online [1] [2] they all show up as default values. >>> >>> > HOWEVER >>> >>> > Despite refreshing my local version, the default values seem to take >>> > no effect. >>> >>> > STRANGE >>> >>> > I characterise this as strange. I simply don't understand. I guess it >>> > is easiliy explained. >>> >>> > HELP >>> >>> > Any help would be most gladly received >>> >>> > best wishes >>> >>> > Alex >>> >>> > >>> > DefaltValues >>> > >>> > config.options.txtOurOrg = "The Organisation"; >>> > config.options.txtOurDepartment = "Your Department"; >>> > config.options.txtMyUnit = "Your Unit"; >>> > config.options.txtOurPeerUnits = "Peer Units"; >>> > config.options.txtDepartmentManagers = "Other departments"; >>> > config.options.txtMyManager = "Your Manager"; >>> > config.options.txtManagersManager = "Your Manager's Manager"; >>> > config.options.txtCustomersOrServiceUsers = "Customers or Service >>> > users"; >>> > config.options.txtSuppliers = "Suppliers"; >>> > config.options.txtOurPartners = "Your Partners"; >>> > config.options.txtOperationalEnvironment = "Operational Environment"; >>> > --- >>> > systemConfig >>> >>> > [1]http://scio-maturity-model.googlegroups.com/web/OMM.html?gda=akXMLT8A... >>> > [2]http://r.a.hough.googlepages.com/OMM.html >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > > -- > t: 0161 442 2202 > m: 0781 372 50 17 > skype: alexhough > delicious: alexhough > -- t: 0161 442 2202 m: 0781 372 50 17 skype: alexhough delicious: alexhough --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Strange. default values in config tiddler not reset after reload on local TW, yet on online version its ok.
I think it is when values are transcluded into other tiddlers that they are not refreshed. on my example, i transcluded twice. Alex 2009/5/20 alex : > > If anyone else gets this problem, I solved it by adding the variables > using inline script. The script is executed when the tiddler is > loaded, so the default values are defined right before they are > needed, not at the outset. Is this a good practice? > > ALex > > On May 19, 10:11 pm, alex wrote: >> its a problem with firefox. fine in safari. >> >> browser = Firefox/3.0.10 >> >> I've tried clearing cookies and clearing private data - there some >> values i added ages ago that won't go away, won't get overwriten by >> the default values. >> >> Alex >> >> On May 19, 9:37 pm, Alex Hough wrote: >> >> > DefaultValues tidder contains the below is tagged with systemConfig. >> > When viewed online [1] [2] they all show up as default values. >> >> > HOWEVER >> >> > Despite refreshing my local version, the default values seem to take >> > no effect. >> >> > STRANGE >> >> > I characterise this as strange. I simply don't understand. I guess it >> > is easiliy explained. >> >> > HELP >> >> > Any help would be most gladly received >> >> > best wishes >> >> > Alex >> >> > >> > DefaltValues >> > >> > config.options.txtOurOrg = "The Organisation"; >> > config.options.txtOurDepartment = "Your Department"; >> > config.options.txtMyUnit = "Your Unit"; >> > config.options.txtOurPeerUnits = "Peer Units"; >> > config.options.txtDepartmentManagers = "Other departments"; >> > config.options.txtMyManager = "Your Manager"; >> > config.options.txtManagersManager = "Your Manager's Manager"; >> > config.options.txtCustomersOrServiceUsers = "Customers or Service >> > users"; >> > config.options.txtSuppliers = "Suppliers"; >> > config.options.txtOurPartners = "Your Partners"; >> > config.options.txtOperationalEnvironment = "Operational Environment"; >> > --- >> > systemConfig >> >> > [1]http://scio-maturity-model.googlegroups.com/web/OMM.html?gda=akXMLT8A... >> > [2]http://r.a.hough.googlepages.com/OMM.html >> >> > > > -- t: 0161 442 2202 m: 0781 372 50 17 skype: alexhough delicious: alexhough --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Here's an example of a tree structure (treeview) implemented on TW
On May 20, 9:57 am, IainS wrote: > Am I missing something - what does it look like at the end? It sounds > interesting but I am not sure what it looks like and not sure whether > I have the time to try it out. To see it working you only have to click here: http://twt-notes-treeview-experimental.tiddlyspot.com/ If and when you get time you can download it and experiment. Instructions are provided to try it in your own TW but you will need something like that in the above link to add items to the menu easily. Or you can add the tags manually. Hi Dickon, I tried it in you site offline and it works perfectly whether it works on TiddlyWeb you will have to try it. Morris On May 20, 9:57 am, IainS wrote: > Am I missing something - what does it look like at the end? It sounds > interesting but I am not sure what it looks like and not sure whether > I have the time to try it out. > > Iain --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[tw] Re: Linking to tiddlers from hotspot on image
Ah! Now I understand! ...and it works fine! Thank you for your assistance - I've been searching for just this thing for months! Kino --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to TiddlyWiki@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
