[tw] Re: Featured Spaces

2010-10-23 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On Oct 22, 6:10 pm, Raji Chandrasekhar 
wrote:

> 5. hit counter .

If you are familiar with google analytics, you can use that as a hit
counter for your tiddlyspace by setting up google analytics for your
domain and then including the ganalytics space: 
http://ganalytics.tiddlyspace.com/

Once the google side of things it set up, it will provide you with a
tracker id which you put in a tiddler (described in the ganalytics
space).

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[tw] Re: What isTiddlyWiki for?

2010-10-23 Thread Seba
Very impressive guys, here is my modest contribution:
Character management tool for MMORGP game Estiah (or any other):
http://users.volja.net/adonis25/estiah.html

I also work on a project management and collaboration tool together
with Whatever, but it is still in alpha.

regards,
seba

On 23 okt., 03:42, jonas s  wrote:
> For the new Fudge Roleplaying Game System Reference 
> Document!http://fudgerpg.tiddlyspot.com/index.html

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[tw] Re: What isTiddlyWiki for?

2010-10-23 Thread Ton van Rooijen
My 2 cents:

- Notes collection/organizing tool: "http://giffmex.org/experiments/
NoteStorm.html" (Thanks David!)
- Getting Things Done (GTD) tool; various flavours, e.g.: "http://
tiddlywiki.org/wiki/MGSD"
- Usermanual, e.g. several TiddlyWiki manuals, e.g.: "http://www.ton-
van-rooijen.nl/TW/TWhandleiding.html" (a Dutch TW manual)
- Personal website
- Business website

and furthermore have a look at David Giffords "showcase": "http://
giffmex.tiddlyspot.com/"

(P.S. If the links don't work (thanks to Google interferance) plse
copy/paste the URLs to your browser).

Best regards / Ton.

On 23 okt, 11:43, Seba  wrote:
> Very impressive guys, here is my modest contribution:
> Character management tool for MMORGP game Estiah (or any 
> other):http://users.volja.net/adonis25/estiah.html
>
> I also work on a project management and collaboration tool together
> with Whatever, but it is still in alpha.
>
> regards,
> seba
>
> On 23 okt., 03:42, jonas s  wrote:
>
> > For the new Fudge Roleplaying Game System Reference 
> > Document!http://fudgerpg.tiddlyspot.com/index.html

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[tw] Re: What isTiddlyWiki for?

2010-10-23 Thread Ton van Rooijen
Apologies for the mess in my previous post (Thanks again Google!).
Let's try another layout:
My 2 cents:

- Notes collection/organizing tool:
http://giffmex.org/experiments/NoteStorm.html
(Thanks David!)
- Getting Things Done (GTD) tool; various flavours, e.g.:
http://tiddlywiki.org/wiki/MGSD
- Usermanual, e.g. several TiddlyWiki manuals, but of course suitable
for whatever you need a manual for. e.g.:
http://www.ton-van-rooijen.nl/TW/TWhandleiding.html
(a Dutch TW manual)
- Personal website
- Business website

and furthermore have a look at David Giffords "showcase":
http://giffmex.tiddlyspot.com/

(P.S. If the links don't work plse copy/paste the URLs to your
browser).

Best regards / Ton.


On 23 okt, 12:35, Ton van Rooijen  wrote:
> My 2 cents:
>
> - Notes collection/organizing tool: "http://giffmex.org/experiments/
> NoteStorm.html" (Thanks David!)
> - Getting Things Done (GTD) tool; various flavours, e.g.: "http://
> tiddlywiki.org/wiki/MGSD"
> - Usermanual, e.g. several TiddlyWiki manuals, e.g.: "http://www.ton-
> van-rooijen.nl/TW/TWhandleiding.html" (a Dutch TW manual)
> - Personal website
> - Business website
>
> and furthermore have a look at David Giffords "showcase": "http://
> giffmex.tiddlyspot.com/"
>
> (P.S. If the links don't work (thanks to Google interferance) plse
> copy/paste the URLs to your browser).
>
> Best regards / Ton.
>
> On 23 okt, 11:43, Seba  wrote:
>
> > Very impressive guys, here is my modest contribution:
> > Character management tool for MMORGP game Estiah (or any 
> > other):http://users.volja.net/adonis25/estiah.html
>
> > I also work on a project management and collaboration tool together
> > with Whatever, but it is still in alpha.
>
> > regards,
> > seba
>
> > On 23 okt., 03:42, jonas s  wrote:
>
> > > For the new Fudge Roleplaying Game System Reference 
> > > Document!http://fudgerpg.tiddlyspot.com/index.html

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[tw] Re: <> and <> errors

2010-10-23 Thread Bauwe Bijl
Hi Jon,
The activity stream still functions here.
But since about 4 day's I have the same error:
Error in macro <>
Perhaps this is related?
Browsers:
FireFox 3.6.11
Safari 5.0.2

Bauwe

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[tw] CSS/Pagetemplate question

2010-10-23 Thread Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/
Hi everyone,

I am experimenting with something and would like to have the sidebar
go all the way to the top of the browser window, so that the header
only goes as far as the sidebar and stops there. But I can't figger
out how I would do that. Anybody want to help me?

Dave

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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki Interview Questions

2010-10-23 Thread twgrp
On Oct 20, 12:30 pm, Jeremy Ruston  wrote:
> It seems that TiddlyWiki is hard for some people to get their heads
> around. I'm hoping that by exploring how people who have done so think
> about TiddlyWiki we might be able to make it easier for others to
> understand what's going on. Furthermore, because TiddlyWiki is general
> purpose it is not always obvious how it can be used until you see how
> it is being used by others.

I would think there is a difference in
1) creating interest about TW and
2) have them "get their heads around it".
...and I'd say the distinction is particularly crucial for TW because
it, as you mention, is so general. I think people typically don't
bother to begin to climb the TW threshold (i.e #2 above) unless it
appears intersting and *relevant* to them.

For this reason I think it is key to showcase things that people can
identify with, and I would therefore suggest using this as a starting
point for (thus leading) questions to be used in such a showcase.
Perhaps:

* In which way is TW your personal wikipeida?
* Which every day projects do you use TW for?
* For what tasks do you prefer TW when there are other alternatives,
and why?
* What was your first TW "about"? Why did you create a second one?
* What makes using TW fun?
* What makes using TW valuable?
* Who ought to use TW?

...etc, provoking answers from us that people hopefully feel are
relevant and of value.

:-)

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[tw] Re: Display <

2010-10-23 Thread julien23
thanks

I made the change for .viewer .button

On Oct 22, 6:43 pm, octw  wrote:
> Maybe something like this:
>
> .fourcolumns .button {border: 0px; font-weight: bold;}
>
> in StyleSheet.
>
> Cheers, octw
>
> On 10月22日, 下午11時35分, julien23  wrote:
>
> > How to display <
> > thanks
>
> > optional context : to place the link at the top of a remote FeT list :
>
> > [[FetList]] :
>
> > {{fourcolumns{< >     where
> >         'tiddler.tags.contains("$1") && !
> > tiddler.tags.contains("attachment")'
> >     sortBy
> >         tiddler.title
> >     ascending
> >    write
> >  '((index == 0) ? "*< > [[$1]] $))\n" : "\n")+"*[["+tiddler.title+"|"+tiddler.title+"]]"'
>
> > >>}}}
>
>

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[tw] Re: CSS/Pagetemplate question

2010-10-23 Thread TonG
Hi Dave,

If you put the first 10 lines of the standard PageTemplate below

your header will have the same width as your tiddler.
The Main menu and the sidebar will then reach to the top.

Cheers,

Ton



On Oct 23, 4:16 pm, "Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/";
 wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I am experimenting with something and would like to have the sidebar
> go all the way to the top of the browser window, so that the header
> only goes as far as the sidebar and stops there. But I can't figger
> out how I would do that. Anybody want to help me?
>
> Dave

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[tw] Re: CSS/Pagetemplate question

2010-10-23 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Dave,

I would suggest you try and put the header inside the displayArea of
your PageTemplate and then play with firebug until you've found css
rules that work.

Other than that - in terms of layouting - I find this seemingly simple
case to be a good example of the shortcomings in a standard
TiddlyWiki. Most themes seem to be variations of pretty much one and
the same layout.

TiddlyWiki begs for powerful layouting concepts and templates that
allow you to arrange crucial elements just the way you want, like
PMario's unfortunately somewhat obscure freestyle project. For a web-
literate this task is in no way a difficult, even if time-
consuming ...however, for most end users, it really does constrain
your flexibility.

Have a look at the TiddlySpace core theme. Does it not - instead of
creating a dedicated TiddlySpace-Theme-Recipe - simply try to
overwrite the (shortcommings of) the core TiddlyWiki distribution with
even more rules (to be overwritten later on)?

If I had a way to turn back time in TiddlyWiki land, it would be to
ask for layout flexibility being a design tenet from day one. It just
woudln't make sense to me if backwards compatibility even stretched so
far as to make sure that the sidebar were always to your right.

I'd think it rather were a relief if the core simply was stripped of
all layout preconfiguration going on in shadow tiddlers. Most of this
really has zero to do with TiddlyWiki's strong suit. There is no need
at all to declare someting as the offical way of looking at content
bits TiddlyWiki-style, even if that standard may be quite alright ...I
would not (want to) sacrifice (an end user's) design points of view.

To sum this all up, I wish TiddlyWiki would ship but only with the
bare minimum of markup requirements ...everything else being packaged
as themes, if not "core themes".

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Tiddlyspot problems

2010-10-23 Thread AlanBCohen
Sometime ago, I created a tiddlyspot wiki for the purpose of saving
the name for future use.  Everything seemed to work and I have been
able to display it in my browser from the website (I have the
password).  I now have a need to actually use it and want to create
some new content. But first, I want to upgrade it from TW Version
2.4.1 to 2.6.1 (No reason to start a new site already behind).
So, I save it locally, do the upgrade, and resave the local copy. Now
I am in position to upload it, right? Well, I enter the website
password, select save to web.  It reports it saved to the web.
So, it should now be waiting for me.  I reload it from tiddlyspot and
call up my TWversion tiddler, only to find it still reports 2.4.1.
Any idea of what I'm doing wrong? (My options include my username and
my tiddlyspot password.)

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[tw] The community space

2010-10-23 Thread Tobias Beer
Matias

So, here's what I've neglectd putting into words lately

1) I think you're doing a great job! We're getting there, for sure.
Although maybe quiet, don't think people (like me) are not being
involved.

2) I like the way you've discovered how to split up things ...and -
although the current "comunity" space today is far from being usable -
this is clearly going in the right direction! I would even strip any
additional info and leave that in the TiddlyWorld space as a kind of
reminder of where the road might eventually lead to.

3) Topmost priority for me is to identify the most wanted community
features and list them in the communitydev space. I am not sure how
we're going to vote on these things... maybe for a lack of a better
alternative, let's just put our usrenames behind every proposition,
use google forms or micropoll.com and have people sign up for
voting... or simply use this group to discuss individual ideas... I
think we're really good at that. Anyways, having a list like that
surely would give an indication of what are the most desirable
features.

4) As for community-supply... if anything, I think it really should
only contain the plugins being used by the community space, this is
wher€e components are being loaded into. On the other hand, maybe we
really need a very basic 'admin-theme' space to be
included ...allowing us to create a public tiddler - like plugins -
without requiring the system-theme space(s).

5) I think we would do good with a "community-sandbox". Don't get me
wrong, I don't mean to clutter the spaces list with yet another... but
whenever some new feature or plugin is being explored in the community
context ...it should be tested in the sandbox ...which, of course,
(re-)includes the community space, whenever a new thing is being
tested ...everything still in test-mode should therefore be tagged
'keep' or otherwise is prone to being deleted in an attempt to test,
well, something else.

6) As for collaboration, you may have noticed the TypeWithMe
integration I have created ...now being available in the semantic
space. I really am not sure if this is very fruitful... so, what would
you think of this... does it make sense to use this as a
(complemantary) discussion/annotation tool?

7) Haven't gotten around making an updated version for the poup(macro)
space yet.

Well, above all, enjoy your weekend!

Tobias.

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[tw] Re: The community space

2010-10-23 Thread Tobias Beer
Oh, by the way... I think "community" is a very good name for this
space it should remind everyone participating of #1 tenet of all
efforts going into it ...to help the community to flourish.

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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki Interview Questions

2010-10-23 Thread Handoko Suwono
Nice points Matias, great!

When targeting novice users in a TW showcase, the following might be
appropriate,
* What will be your first TW "about"?

Handoko -


On Oct 24, 2:16 am, twgrp  wrote:
> On Oct 20, 12:30 pm, Jeremy Ruston  wrote:
>
> > It seems that TiddlyWiki is hard for some people to get their heads
> > around. I'm hoping that by exploring how people who have done so think
> > about TiddlyWiki we might be able to make it easier for others to
> > understand what's going on. Furthermore, because TiddlyWiki is general
> > purpose it is not always obvious how it can be used until you see how
> > it is being used by others.
>
> I would think there is a difference in
> 1) creating interest about TW and
> 2) have them "get their heads around it".
> ...and I'd say the distinction is particularly crucial for TW because
> it, as you mention, is so general. I think people typically don't
> bother to begin to climb the TW threshold (i.e #2 above) unless it
> appears intersting and *relevant* to them.
>
> For this reason I think it is key to showcase things that people can
> identify with, and I would therefore suggest using this as a starting
> point for (thus leading) questions to be used in such a showcase.
> Perhaps:
>
> * In which way is TW your personal wikipeida?
> * Which every day projects do you use TW for?
> * For what tasks do you prefer TW when there are other alternatives,
> and why?
> * What was your first TW "about"? Why did you create a second one?
> * What makes using TW fun?
> * What makes using TW valuable?
> * Who ought to use TW?
>
> ...etc, provoking answers from us that people hopefully feel are
> relevant and of value.
>
> :-)

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Re: [tw] Re: Featured Spaces

2010-10-23 Thread Raji Chandrasekhar
Dear Cdent

Thank you Very much.

1. I created an anlytic account. I hope it will work well.

2. Is there any method to know the number of downloads of my space..

Thanking You again,

Raji Chandrasekhar

On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 3:11 PM, cd...@peermore.com wrote:

> On Oct 22, 6:10 pm, Raji Chandrasekhar 
> wrote:
>
> > 5. hit counter .
>
> If you are familiar with google analytics, you can use that as a hit
> counter for your tiddlyspace by setting up google analytics for your
> domain and then including the ganalytics space:
> http://ganalytics.tiddlyspace.com/
>
> Once the google side of things it set up, it will provide you with a
> tracker id which you put in a tiddler (described in the ganalytics
> space).
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[tw] Reverting a tiddlyspace to its defaults

2010-10-23 Thread passingby
I want this space http://intrinsic-chunks.tiddlyspace.com/ to revert
to its default, colors and layout both. Whats the correct way of doing
it?

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[tw] Whats exactly happens when you include a space?

2010-10-23 Thread passingby
# Does it mean that public tiddlers from the other space get included
into your space?
# If I have a tiddler named foo in my space and the included space
also has a tiddler by the same name, would the included foo tiddler
override the original foo?
# What if I want to block a particular tiddler from the included
space? Is that possible too?

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[tw] Re: Reverting a tiddlyspace to its defaults

2010-10-23 Thread passingby
Another question concerning the same space as mentioned above. In the
sidebar under the 'Tags' why isnt 'excludeLists' tag not visible? And
why is there a tiddler (intrinsic-chunksSetupFlag) tagged
'excludePublisher' ? When I created another space it did not have any
tiddler tagged such.

On Oct 24, 10:36 am, passingby  wrote:
> I want this spacehttp://intrinsic-chunks.tiddlyspace.com/to revert
> to its default, colors and layout both. Whats the correct way of doing
> it?

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[tw] Re: CSS/Pagetemplate question

2010-10-23 Thread passingby
I second Tobi on his thoughts.

On Oct 24, 1:26 am, Tobias Beer  wrote:
> Hi Dave,
>
> I would suggest you try and put the header inside the displayArea of
> your PageTemplate and then play with firebug until you've found css
> rules that work.
>
> Other than that - in terms of layouting - I find this seemingly simple
> case to be a good example of the shortcomings in a standard
> TiddlyWiki. Most themes seem to be variations of pretty much one and
> the same layout.
>
> TiddlyWiki begs for powerful layouting concepts and templates that
> allow you to arrange crucial elements just the way you want, like
> PMario's unfortunately somewhat obscure freestyle project. For a web-
> literate this task is in no way a difficult, even if time-
> consuming ...however, for most end users, it really does constrain
> your flexibility.
>
> Have a look at the TiddlySpace core theme. Does it not - instead of
> creating a dedicated TiddlySpace-Theme-Recipe - simply try to
> overwrite the (shortcommings of) the core TiddlyWiki distribution with
> even more rules (to be overwritten later on)?
>
> If I had a way to turn back time in TiddlyWiki land, it would be to
> ask for layout flexibility being a design tenet from day one. It just
> woudln't make sense to me if backwards compatibility even stretched so
> far as to make sure that the sidebar were always to your right.
>
> I'd think it rather were a relief if the core simply was stripped of
> all layout preconfiguration going on in shadow tiddlers. Most of this
> really has zero to do with TiddlyWiki's strong suit. There is no need
> at all to declare someting as the offical way of looking at content
> bits TiddlyWiki-style, even if that standard may be quite alright ...I
> would not (want to) sacrifice (an end user's) design points of view.
>
> To sum this all up, I wish TiddlyWiki would ship but only with the
> bare minimum of markup requirements ...everything else being packaged
> as themes, if not "core themes".
>
> Best wishes, Tobias.

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