Re: [tw] Re: How well Tidlly scales?

2011-04-07 Thread Dani Zobin
Michael, thanks a lot for sharing this valuable information.

What do you mean by loading time? The time it takes to load every Twiddle?
Or an initial time to load the file (in which case it's amazing to download
17 MB in 30 secs)

Have you considered trying your huge wiki on a different browser?  And see
if the saving problem persists? just for the sake of debugging this

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 10:23 PM, Michael.Tarnowski  wrote:

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[tw] Re: How well Tidlly scales?

2011-04-07 Thread Michael.Tarnowski
Hi Dani,

my TW conatins
5363 items, (17209502 bytes total), including 159 plugins enabled
(from 212 plugins total), 58 scripts and 3851 glossary items.

On local drive (USB) the load time is acceptable, but not from
Internet hosting (30 sec.)

Recently I have some troubles with "save changes": the changes aren't
saved, I have to copy them to an intermediate device, restart FireFox
and update the changes manually. I'm not quit sure if this due to TW
size or FF internal issues.

Cheers Michael

On 6 Apr., 09:26, colmjude  wrote:
> > Following my previous post, I wonder: how well Tiddly scales?
>
> > How well will it handle few thousands of Tidlles and search across
> > them?  (speed, and probably also memory)
>
> > Somebody has a first hand experience with this?
>
> I have used a tiddlywiki with over a 1000 tiddlers and that worked
> ok.  I have also seen a guy's tiddlywiki which was 16mb in size.  He
> said it worked reasonable well.  He had made a few speed tweaks such
> as disabling the tags but overall it worked well.
> Tags seem to be the only thing to cause problems with huge
> tiddlywikis.
>
> Colm

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[tw] Refresh on TiddlySpace

2011-04-07 Thread teukon
I'm writing a macro for use on tiddlyspace and I'm trying to find a
way to get the text for a tiddler.  I've tried
{{{
var latestText = tiddler.text;
}}}
but this seems to try to get the text locally (and hence the text is
outdated).  I'd like a way of fetching the latest version of the
tiddler from the server on tiddlyspace.com (like the refresh button
above a tiddler does).

I've looked through the source code for tiddlywiki but it didn't help
me.  I've also tried
{{{
story.refreshTiddler(tiddler.title,1,true);
}}}
and
{{{
refreshAll();
}}}
before using tiddler.text but to no avail.

Any ideas?

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[tw] Re: INTRO: Simplicity a TiddlySpace

2011-04-07 Thread PMario
On Apr 6, 4:35 am, passingby  wrote:
> How does one create or edit tiddlers in this kind of space? ..
If you are logged in, you'll have a minimum interface in the top
toolbar.

[edit title] [edit subtitle] [new page]

Page names are automatically created and not displayed. Use !heading1
if you need a chapter title.
If you have CammelCase in your text and click that. It will create a
Tiddler as known from TW.

In edit mode you have [done] [cancel] [delete]
That's it.

> ..And how
> does one convert an existing space into this simplicity style/theme?
There is no theme yet.
What will you do with it, if I tell?

have fun!
-m

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[tw] Re: INTRO: Simplicity a TiddlySpace

2011-04-07 Thread PMario
Folks,
Thx for responding.

On Apr 4, 12:12 pm, Tobias Beer  wrote:
> I would perhaps make the navigation a little more prominent... perhaps
> bigger (font-size and padding), but then with a font-color that has
> little contrasting to the bg, pretty much as it is now I guess. Maybe
> a padding to the buttons alone would do already.
Added a little little more padding.

> Eventually, if clicking on any blank space in a tiddler (that isn't a
> link or the likes itself) would allow to move on to the next or
> previous tiddler - as in a fancybox or lightbox - that would be
> fantastic. ..
> .. For example, if you hover over (the left or right side of)
> a tiddler you would see the arrows on top highlighted, indicating that
> clicking right where you are will take you to the next or previous
> tiddler in the sequence.
Hm, not that easy. It would need some extra div or span with some
cracy CSS. I'll think about it :)

> Great job!
thx

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[tw] Re: INTRO: Simplicity a TiddlySpace

2011-04-07 Thread PMario
Hi Jeremy,
Thx.

Does the iPad allow to navigate the next and previous buttons. since
they are invisible, until the tiddler is hovered?
-m

On Apr 3, 8:18 pm, Jeremy Ruston  wrote:
> That's terrific Mario, thank you. I tested it on the iPad and it's
> pretty usable, and looks great.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
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>
> On 3 Apr 2011, at 18:59, PMario  wrote:
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>
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>
>
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>
> > uups,
> > [1]http://simplicity.tiddlyspace.com/
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[tw] Re: ChangeModePlugin alters ColorPalette every day

2011-04-07 Thread magev958
It seems the ColorPalett changes by "none" (just blank) when I change
to admin-mode, not from read to edit, but from edit to admin. Also the
tag changes from whatever I set there to "admin".

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[tw] Re: Help with autosave in form

2011-04-07 Thread magev958
Thank you, now it works, with the change you suggested. Strange thing
the closeAll did work in the old code but not he saveChanges. Any way,
thanks :)

On Apr 5, 3:33 pm, magev958  wrote:
> Hi, I have managed to create a simple form with a autosave onClick-
> function and it seems to work, but it seems it saves the TiddlyWiki
> and THEN creates the new tiddler.
>
>  onclick="story.closeAllTiddlers();autoSaveChanges()"> type="submit" value="Save">
>
> What am I doing wrong?
>
> Whole code
>
>  action="javascript:;"
>         onsubmit="
>                 /* validate new title */
>                 var t=this.title.value;
>                 if (!t.length || t==this.title.defaultValue)
>                         { alert('A title is required'); this.title.focus(); 
> return false; }
>                 if (store.tiddlerExists(t) && !
> confirm(config.messages.overwriteWarning.format([t])))
>                         { this.title.focus(); return false; }
>
>                 /* get current tiddler (if any) */
>                 var tid=store.getTiddler(t);
>                 var who=tid?tid.modifier:config.options.txtUserName;
>                 var when=tid?tid.modified:new Date();
>                 var txt=tid?tid.text:'';
>                 var tags=tid?tid.tags:[];
>                 var fields=tid?tid.fields:{};
>
>                 /* get form values and construct new tiddler text */
>                 var fmt='%0\n' ;
>                 var newtxt=fmt.format([this.field1.value]);
>
>                 /* insert new text at marker (or end, if no marker) */
>                 var marker='/%MARKER%/';
>                 if (txt.indexOf(marker)==-1) txt=txt+newtxt;
>                 else txt=txt.replace(new RegExp(marker.escapeRegExp()),newtxt
> +marker);
>
>                 /* get new tags and add to existing tags (if any) */
>                 var newtags=this.tagsfield.value.readBracketedList();
>                 for (var i=0; i tags.pushUnique(newtags[i]);
>
>                 /* write and show tiddler */
>                 store.saveTiddler(t,t,txt, who, when, tags, fields);
>                 story.displayTiddler(story.findContainingTiddler(this),t);
>                 return false;">
> varje inlägg måste ha en unik rubrik, i annat fall kommer det
> nya inlägget skriva över det äldre
>  onfocus="this.select()">
> skriv texten till inlägget
> 
>  href="javascript:;"
> onclick="story.closeAllTiddlers();autoSaveChanges()"> type="submit" value="Save">
> 

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[tw] Re: How well Tidlly scales?

2011-04-07 Thread PMario
On Apr 6, 7:44 pm, Dani Zobin  wrote:
> Mario,
>
> Thanks a lot for taking the effort to write this (especially for me? I
> prefer to beileve that yes :-) )
Yes. Hopefully you'll post your performance results.

If you go to TW backstage and check the "Show unknown options" at the
bootom of the tiddler, you'll get a list of all cookies.
If you check "chkDisplayInstrumentation" you'll get some built in
timing info.
Reload TW!

> I'll use it as a base and maybe add some more twists
I thought, it would be easier to use TW, than to mess around with
exporting / hacking / importing.

btw. The file format is not very difficult.
There are two tools [1] Ginsu and Cook which can dismantle and bake TW
files. There ruby sorce can be found at github [2].
A TW source [3] can be found at github too.

You can cook a TW,
Open and create different types of tiddlers.
Ginsu the tw, and you'll see how the files look like.

More possibilities, little bit more complicated :)

-m

[1] http://trac.tiddlywiki.org/wiki/TiddlyWikiDevelopmentTools
[2] https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/cooker
[3] https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/tiddlywiki

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[tw] Re: What is the best Tiddlywiki template/theme for documentation

2011-04-07 Thread PMario
Are your pictures screenshots of an eg: bash script output like:
===
$ ls --help

Aufruf: ls [OPTION]... [DATEI]...

Erforderliche Argumente für..  auch für kurze erforderlich.
  -a, --all  do not ignore entries starting with .
  -A, --almost-all   do not list implied . and ..

===
I shortened the above lines.

If so, there are better possibilities, than using screenshots. If you
include .jpg's of .gif, they'll make your html file big. If you only
store the links and keep the pictures with the html. Handling is more
work.

-m

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[tw] Re: TiddlySpace backstage in Opera: dead here, alive there

2011-04-07 Thread rakugo
Thanks for pointing this out. I can replicate this weird issue.
I'm not sure what's going on but I'm sure we can get to the bottom of
this.

Sigh.. I remember when Opera used to be a nice browser. :)

Jon

On Apr 7, 9:23 am, Kosmaton  wrote:
> Hmm...
>
> And you find the same behaviour for all the spaces I mentioned?
>
> I am testing the same version/build, but on Mint/Ubuntu and old WinXP.
>
> On the spaces where it doesn't work, there is the 'close' link on the
> right of the backstage bar, and the 'login' dropdown on the left,
> which shows the "TiddlySpace Username", "OpenID" and "Register" tabs.
> But only the "Register" tab contains actual input boxes. So you can't
> login with an existing username. And all the TS-specific stuff is
> unavailable.
>
> Since for some spaces the full TS-specific backstage works (on my
> system), I wonder what exactly is breaking the 'bad' ones.
>
> Kosmaton
>
> On Apr 6, 8:03 pm, PMario  wrote:
>
>
>
> > I Tested it with:
> > Version
> > 11.01
>
> > Build
> > 1190
>
> > Platform
> > Win32
>
> > System
> > Windows NT 6.1 / Win7 :)
> > ===
> > It is messud up, but it was possible to log in.
> > -m

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[tw] Re: Ignoring TW markup in search

2011-04-07 Thread PMario
I can think about a workaround, which will be ugly for the editor.

use:
{{A1B05817{}}} or

{{redrob_eulb{{}}}

Which I think nobody will search for :)
If you have trouble using the number 666 you may have trouble with the
second possibility too :)

-m

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[tw] Re: How to Insert a Tiddlers Name in a Macro?

2011-04-07 Thread PMario
Hi Jan,
I assume you talk about MatchTagsPlugin [1] where you have the
possibility to have "filter [tag[this AND that]]"

Since the plugin also extends the default <> macro you can write
something like this.

You'll need a template eg:
[[myTemplate]]
<>

call it like
[[Körper]]
<>

If you have [[Tags with spaces]] the whole thing will be a little bit
trickier.
===

If you use matchTags the mechanism will be the same. Info about the
syntax is at [2].

have fun!
mario

[1] http://www.tiddlytools.com/#MatchTagsPlugin
[2] http://www.tiddlytools.com/#MatchTagsPluginInfo

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Re: [tw] Re: What's so special about Tiddly

2011-04-07 Thread Jeremy Ruston
I'd maybe emphasise an aspect that Eric Shulman mentioned: with
TiddlyWiki, you can control your own data much more directly than
using a service like WordPress. Many TiddlyWiki users value features
that emerge from this capability: the ability to keep documents
TiddlyWikis private, the ability to add TiddlyWikis to source code
control systems, the ability to email TiddlyWikis, or store them on a
USB stick. In contrast, online services are often easier to use, but
you have to trust the operators to look after your data. TiddlyWiki
users can feel confident that their TiddlyWiki documents will still be
accessible in the decades to come.

Cheers

Jeremy

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 4:43 AM, Eric Weir  wrote:
>
> On Apr 6, 2011, at 7:50 PM, iain wrote:
>
>> I use a version of "No Brainer notes" - I have a master formatted
>> version which I copy every time I need a TW for note taking.
>
> I do the same with a slightly modified version of TWT-Blackicity-Lite, itself 
> tweak of a TW-Treeview, both by Morris Gray. In addition to A Treeview menu 
> it uses TiddlersBar and makes sophisticated use of tagging.
>
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[tw] Re: How to Insert a Tiddlers Name in a Macro?

2011-04-07 Thread whatever
Try Udo's ForEachTiddlerPlugin (1) first. There are plenty of examples
on his site, so you should probably find what you're looking for.

(1) http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#ForEachTiddlerPlugin

w

On 7 apr., 10:20, Jan Johannpeter  wrote:
> Hello
> I want to write to use the match-tiddler-plugin to produce a lists of
> the Tiddlers that are tagged by the Name of tiddler which contains the
> list and other Tag.
>
> For example I want to create  a list/index within the Tiddler K rper
> that contains all tiddlers tagged with "K rper"  and "Gestaltungsaufgabe".
>
> As I plan to to about a sixty of analogous lists, it would be a great
> help if i could insert the Name of the tiddler by an expreesion.
>
> Thanks a lot Jan
>
> Can anyone tell me how to construct a Popup list with the
> MatchTagsPlugin, that Automatically inserts the Name of the Tiddler it
> stans in as one of the requested Tags?
> Thanks a lot.
> Jan

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[tw] Re: TiddlySpace backstage in Opera: dead here, alive there

2011-04-07 Thread Kosmaton
Hmm...

And you find the same behaviour for all the spaces I mentioned?

I am testing the same version/build, but on Mint/Ubuntu and old WinXP.

On the spaces where it doesn't work, there is the 'close' link on the
right of the backstage bar, and the 'login' dropdown on the left,
which shows the "TiddlySpace Username", "OpenID" and "Register" tabs.
But only the "Register" tab contains actual input boxes. So you can't
login with an existing username. And all the TS-specific stuff is
unavailable.

Since for some spaces the full TS-specific backstage works (on my
system), I wonder what exactly is breaking the 'bad' ones.

Kosmaton


On Apr 6, 8:03 pm, PMario  wrote:
> I Tested it with:
> Version
> 11.01
>
> Build
> 1190
>
> Platform
> Win32
>
> System
> Windows NT 6.1 / Win7 :)
> ===
> It is messud up, but it was possible to log in.
> -m

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[tw] How to Insert a Tiddlers Name in a Macro?

2011-04-07 Thread Jan Johannpeter
Hello
I want to write to use the match-tiddler-plugin to produce a lists of
the Tiddlers that are tagged by the Name of tiddler which contains the
list and other Tag.

For example I want to create  a list/index within the Tiddler Körper
that contains all tiddlers tagged with "Körper"  and "Gestaltungsaufgabe".

As I plan to to about a sixty of analogous lists, it would be a great
help if i could insert the Name of the tiddler by an expreesion.

Thanks a lot Jan








Can anyone tell me how to construct a Popup list with the
MatchTagsPlugin, that Automatically inserts the Name of the Tiddler it
stans in as one of the requested Tags?
Thanks a lot.
Jan

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[tw] Re: Ignoring TW markup in search

2011-04-07 Thread Kosmaton
Hello,

The problem is not with shadow tiddlers (I have chkSearchShadows =
false).

The issue is with custom inline formatting, e.g.

   In this tiddler {{blue_border{some text}}} stands out.

On a search of 'blue' the tiddler will be returned, confusing the user
since the word 'blue' is not visible to them.

So either the search would have to recognize and ignore inline
formatting, or pre-render the tiddler and search the result. I don't
know if either is feasible.

I included a checkbox to only search for whole words, which helps but
does not fully solve the problem.

=K=

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