[tw] Re: DropBox TW : publishing and including for groups on the "public" Dropbox

2011-05-11 Thread Zargron
Interesting... have created an "export.html" / ID: 5056681
Sorry, might be out of range over next few weeks.
Have fun.

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[tw] TiddlyWiki will not save to local disk

2011-05-11 Thread Paul
I use TiddlyWiki as a personal research log.  So I have multiple files, depending on the subject, on my local hard drive 
where I'm the only user.  I use dropbox to keep multiple machines in sync.  My TiddlyWiki's have worked fine for years 
but I'm now having problems on one machine that started a couple of weeks ago.  It will not allow me to save any 
changes.  I get the following error:


Javascript Alert
It's not possible to save changes.  Possible reasons include:
-your browser doesn't support saving (Firefox, Internet Explorer, Safari and 
Opera all work if properly configured)
-the pathname to your TiddlyWiki File contains illegal characters
-the TiddlyWiki HTML file has been moved or renamed

I have tried working on line, off line, incognito or normal and I get the same error on this machine with the 3 browsers 
I use.  My path name is pretty bland; file:///D:/Documents/Genealogy/_SHILLING-Research_Log.html.


The biggest difference between this machine and the others where the files save fine is the OS (they are WixXP).  
However, the bad acting machine is my main one and has things like iTunes, mozybackup, DispalyFusion, and of course 
different monitor, keyboard, printer and mice drivers.


I have the system setup to clear cookies when the browsers close and I've toggled that setting.  But it doesn't seem to 
make a difference.


I probably have set a security setting some where too high for TiddlyWiki.  I've checked the Control Panel > Internet 
Options and they seem to be the same as the well behaving machines.  Yes, "Allow active content to run in files on My 
Computer" is checked.  Programs and versions are below.  Any ideas where to look?


TiddlyWiki core v2.6.2

OS Win7 64bit patched and updated as of 11 May 2011.

Browsers:
Chrome v11.0.696.65 beta-m
Adblock Plus 2.3.31
Flashblock 0.9.31
Ghostery 2.2.2
LastPass 1.73.3
Xmarks 1.0.14
Firefox v4.0.1
Adblock Plus 1.3.6
Add Bookmark Here2 4.0.20110331
Flashblock 1.5.14.2
HTTPS-Everwhere 0.9.5b
Java Console 6.0.20 & 6.0.24
LastPass 1.72.0
NoScript 2.1.0.3
Xmarks 3.9.9
IE9 9.08112.16421 64-bit Edition
LastPass Toolbar
Xmarks for IE

Paul

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[tw] Re: list filter macro - space in tag

2011-05-11 Thread PMario
This works :)
<>

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[tw] Re: content organization: the advantage of hierarchy that tags lack, and a cure for this problem

2011-05-11 Thread Ken Girard
Check out IntelliTaggerPlugin
http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#IntelliTaggerPlugin
It suggest tags based on what is already common in your TW.
For example tagging something "Contact" would offer up Friend, Work,
Service.
Also uses Alt-1 through 0 for likely suggestions.

Ken Girard

On May 11, 2:48 pm, Yakov  wrote:
> PS I missed the Claudio's post and actually he said something similar
> about the unstructured data. Probably we should admit that TW, great
> WYSIWYM system doesn't do much with highly unstructured data. But
> perhaps we should not :)
>
> Anyway, this shows that we should be watchful of this "mind greed"
> which sometimes provides chaotic loads of contents.

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[tw] Re: content organization: the advantage of hierarchy that tags lack, and a cure for this problem

2011-05-11 Thread Yakov
PS I missed the Claudio's post and actually he said something similar
about the unstructured data. Probably we should admit that TW, great
WYSIWYM system doesn't do much with highly unstructured data. But
perhaps we should not :)

Anyway, this shows that we should be watchful of this "mind greed"
which sometimes provides chaotic loads of contents.

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[tw] Re: content organization: the advantage of hierarchy that tags lack, and a cure for this problem

2011-05-11 Thread Yakov
Hi Dani, hello everybody.
I'd like to point another aspect of the issue.

> Than, one day you figure out: this piece of content is related to more than
> only one category. And my data model (directories tree) is not expressive
> enough to reflect this fact.

I also think it is an important point. I use symlinks on both PC and
handheld and I'm going to introduce hardlinks in both ones (the second
was changed to a one working on Maemo) though I haven't found a tool
for Windows which is good enough (extend context menu, assigne hot
keys and allow to create multiple hardlinks; not mentioning copying
hardlinks from one disk with NTFS to another, say, external hard
disk).

> Than tags step in - you can tag a piece of content by many tags. If it only
> belongs to one - than great, tag it with only one tag. And here we have a
> more expressive data model. Great.

Because of this I rarely use tags, mostly for "pinning" big notes to
~topics and for technical uses (for instance, I mark tiddlers with
relative html links with a special tag, so that if I need to rename or
move something, it's not an unsolvable problem).

> But (!) on the way we lost something important . Hierarchical structure
> hides from us the vast majority of our content, exposing on each step only a
> small part of relevant content. This follows one of our biggest natural
> cognitive limitations: *attention*.

This is why I think the "hardlinks" approache would be the most
powerfull one. It also has "backward compability" in file systems and
any tree systems, but we don't have any tree structure in TW and don't
have any "converter" which would load a part of file system with txt
files, for instance. So, the first questoin is how to implement the
"hardlinks" approache in TW.

It is quite simple. I have one TW which is built almost totally in
this concept frames. It is called "info-node" and is used for
aggregating info from web -- links to info resources, communication
flows, notes and links for searches in progress and others. It relies
heavily on PasteUpPlugin [1] which supports the workflow (but not the
appearence of a "finished" document, so is not important for reading).
I have a "Root" tiddler with specific CSS applied. It is the only
tiddler in the DefaultTiddlers. And next thing is Root contains
<> macros and <> macros used along with sections,
like in the example below. Finally, I can use multiple <> macros (in different tiddlers). I have to note, though,
that this is more "symbolic links" rather "hardlinks": if I want to
rename my "tiddlerA", I have to see the references and change the
links there.

== in the Searches tiddler, imaginary example ==
...
<>
.../%
..
!mobile phone
{{indent{
<>}}}
!..
...
!end
%/
== end of the example ==
the "edit" option can be skipped since the latest versions of
PasteUpPlugin has a global chkPasteUpEditAll option thanks to Eric.
Though, to my shame, I haven't introduces use of this in my documents
yet.

A side note: this approache shows that a corresponding extension of
the slider macro would be of considerable value. Also, I'd note that
transclusion is not the only possible approach -- links can be used as
well; all this is "manual" and "custom" and I have no idea of
"automatic" analogues. Keep in mind that I use "new tiddler" button
*very* seldom in this document: first I create <>, then I follow the link to create and sometimes add a slider to
hide the new content. More than that, I do so in most of my tw-
documents -- create <> macro or a pretty link first. The "new
tiddler" button is heavily used in documents which aggregate highly
unstructured information, like news.

One though can see the lack of autogenerated "contents" to be a
shortcoming of the approach. I can see some ways to implement it but
no really beatiful one (aside creating some big script or plugin).



Now let's move to the work with highly "unstructured" data (I'll refer
to the news aggregating which I do from time to time). This is where I
use tags heavily and where things about "categorizing tags" really
apply. Actually something goes wrong here, I must admit. The intention
of using tags here is to define the value of the news to provide
further rereading flow. Acting in this frame I face the fact that many
things are interesting very indirectly -- as materials for
~statistics, as precedents, or only if I become interested in a narrow
branch of science, or they are announcements which will be interested
only if they don't become reality (otherwise they are replaced with
the actual news). In fact, many news pieces remain in the RSS
aggregator; and I'm not sure whether I can say something substantial
in this aspect.

[1] http://www.tiddlytools.com/#PasteUpPlugin

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[tw] Re: list filter macro - space in tag

2011-05-11 Thread Keith Silva
I've double-checked that syntax and it doesn't work. I also tried
single and double quotes in lieu of brackets, even with brackets!
Thanks for the input, though.

Keith S.

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[tw] Re: list filter macro - space in tag

2011-05-11 Thread PMario
may be to many brackets. Try this:

<>

-m

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[tw] Re: TiddlyRedirect: a question for dev

2011-05-11 Thread Yakov
> Give this a try:
>    http://www.tiddlytools.com/#MissingTiddlersPlugin
>    http://www.tiddlytools.com/#MissingTiddlersPluginInfo

MissingTiddlersPlugin is nice for inner redirection, like in the case
of SelectStylesheetPlugin. However, the purpose I mean would demand
some tweaking with <> macro with which I'm still not familiar
(somewhat like: in MissingTiddler -- <> with a script which
pushes tiddler.title into an array and a <> macro somewhere
else which would read the array and make the redirection). And anyway
this looks too devious.

Why I want the direct redirection instead of new fallback content?
because I want to try the first approach of personal "site" as
following: blog at LJ + TW-page with iframes for discussions connected
to the tiddlers. I don't want to learn the the domain registering and
other stories of site hosting for the first time. At the same time I
don't want the links in the blog become "click once more to go to the
page" things. I want to be sure that once I decide to move to another
service/new domain I can just stick the redirection engine and then
remove the deprecated links from the blog gradually.

So, I think I need to learn the paramifiers engine and use it. I can
in [1] that there's the config.paramifiers object but I as for now I
don't understand how to grab paramifier values.

Also, I've made two notes on the redirection. First, the redirecting
page should remain editable, so the author could "enter" TW without
being redirected. This can be done by using a "key" paramifier which
should be caught by the redirection engine. Second, redirection
mechanism can cause the new TW-page to open an additional tiddler
which would prompt to change the bookmark. But this is rather bad
practice since the user can just have followed a link from a site so
he or she can't refresh anything.

[1] http://www.tiddlytools.com/insideTW/

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Re: [tw] Absolute path for backup folder

2011-05-11 Thread Jeremy Ruston
> Is it possible to define a backup folder that is not a subdirectory to
> the one TiddlyWiki resides in?
>
> How would one have to specify config.options.txtBackupFolder?
>
> These do not work:
> config.options.txtBackupFolder = 'file:///C:\BackupFolder';
> config.options.txtBackupFolder = 'C:\BackupFolder';
>
> Ir is it that filesystem access for TiddlySaver.jar is restricted to
> subdirectories?

It was an intentional design decision to restrict the backup directory
to be a subdirectory of the TiddlyWiki directory. I was concerned
about making it too easy for an errant TiddlyWiki to smash ones
filesystem.

As far as I remember, all three of the underlying APIs allow for
absolute paths to be used, so I think it would be possible to make
this modification to TiddlyWiki.

Cheers

jeremy

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> Cheers, Tobias.
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[tw] list filter macro - space in tag

2011-05-11 Thread Keith Silva
I'm trying to use the list filter macro with tags that contain spaces,
such as:

<>

It works if there is no space in the tag, but fails when the tag
contains a space. Is there a syntax that will allow tags with spaces?
I've tried a few things with no luck.

Thanks, Keith Silva

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[tw] Re: list filter macro broken.

2011-05-11 Thread Eric Shulman
> im trying to list the journal entrys in reverse dat order on the start
> page. i'm using IE7 on XPSP3
> the most successfull attempt is [tag[journal]] however this is in the
> incorrect order, if this can be fixed i'd be very happy.

> however the main reason i did this is the <> command seems to be
> broken.

> <> works however <> seems to be broken by the
> space.
> i get a list of three nonexistant tiddlers below

I assume that when you say "on the start page" you are attempting to
use a macro entered into DefaultTiddlers in order to auto-generate the
list of starting tiddlers.  However, you CANNOT use macro syntax in
DefaultTiddlers, which must contain only a whitespace-separated list
of tiddler titles and/or filter syntax (i.e., [tag[...]]).  During
startup, the TWCore is parsing your *macro* as a space-separated list
of tiddlers (because that's what is expected in DefaultTiddlers).  As
a result, it attempts to display three tiddlers named:
   "<>"

Try this instead:
   [tag[journal]][sort[-modified]]

enjoy,
-e
Eric Shulman
TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
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[tw] list filter macro broken.

2011-05-11 Thread marlijx
What im doing
im trying to list the journal entrys in reverse dat order on the start
page.
i'm using IE7 on XPSP3

what i've tried
the most successfull attempt is [tag[journal]] however this is in the
incorrect order, if this can be fixed i'd be very happy.

however the main reason i did this is the <> command seems to be
broken.
<> works however <> seems to be broken by the
space.
i get a list of three nonexistant tiddlers beloe
removing the space throws an error.
OUTPUT BELOW

<>
(missing), 6 January 2011(created 6 January 2011)
not tagging
no tags
The tiddler '>>' doesn't yet exist. Double-click to create it

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[tw] Re: Out of Memory Error Crashes, Overwrites Existing TW File

2011-05-11 Thread Yakov
Hi Scott.

Did you make any tiddler really big before you saved TW? There is
(was?) also a bug which appeared in Opera [1], the whole content of
wiki was smashed, but it was not emptied. I'm not sure whether these
two are connected.

[1] 
https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/628ae4abdc7a95ec?hl=ru

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[tw] Re: Help with wikify

2011-05-11 Thread axelm
Still doesn't work. The horizontal scroll bar is gone now, but the text 
still runs of to the right in the slider.

axelm


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[tw] Re: TW for essay writing

2011-05-11 Thread Måns
Hi passingby

> Is there any existing tiddlywiki adaptation which is oriented towards essay
> writing? Something in which one can start an essay by writing an outline of
> ideas and then expanding those ideas later one.

Lisa Janice Cohen made one based one the devfire theme:
http://www.ljcohen.net/TiddlywikiWrite-upgrade.html
http://www.ljcohen.net/
http://www.ljcohen.net/resources-wiki.html
http://www.ljcohen.net/Tiddlywikiwrite-2-6-1.html

Then there is this one: 
http://wiki.libertyhallwriters.org/doku.php?id=tiddlywiki
Here's a live example: http://db.tt/IYABnvZ

>There could be other
> features like maintaining different version of an idea which can be shuffled
> around and added or subtracted from main essay. In other words the essay
> tiddler could be a composite of ideas tiddlers which can be freely shuffled
> around. Does this sound viable?

I had a lot of fun combinating Pmario's JQSorter, Eric's StorySaver,
StoryViewer and CollapseTiddlersPlugin here: http://tinyurl.com/68goa5l

PMario has made XListPlugin http://apm-plugins.tiddlyspot.com/#XListPluginTest

Cheers Måns Mårtensson

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[tw] Re: Collaboration using Dropbox - looking for investigators

2011-05-11 Thread Saverio
I agree.  Standardize the back-end (tiddlers as independent files)
with DropBox, leveraging its version control and ubiquitous syncing.
Then built multiple/varied front ends for manipulating those files.
The simplest ones would enable a single user to access (create, edit,
view) their own tiddlers from any platform (PC, Mac, web, iOS,
Android, etc.).  More complicated ones could layer on view-only
sharing, first of individual tiddlers or whole collections of tiddlers
(ie. tiddywikis).  Even more complicated front ends could enable
actual collaboration (two-way sharing), either synchronously or
asynchronously.  But let's not lose sight of the benefit of even the
simplest use case.

On May 11, 1:56 am, HansBKK  wrote:
> My 2 cents:
>
> To me, Jeremy's tiddlers-as-independent-files is the core enabling
> idea, for the reason he gave - it exposes each tiddler as an
> independent entity for version control.
>
> Many people using Dropbox, that's all fine and good, but I'd hate to
> see a lot of Dropbox-specific work done when there are so many other
> version control systems out there suitable for enabling multi-user
> collaboration on TW-hosted content.
>
> IMO we should let people use the version control & distribution
> implementation they prefer - some are rabid Git'ers, others are
> already set up with a Subversion network, and so on. These solutions
> are very robust, both in features and reliability and IMO should be
> the basis for handling the distributed authoring side of things.
>
> TW's strength is in the presentation side of things, and if the TW
> developers focus on simply implementing that one key concept - TW
> dynamically pulling tiddler content from external files - it could be
> done pretty quickly.
>
> I don't think the TW code should be trying to overcome Dropbox's
> limitations as a "back end" file-hosting/version control system - it
> makes more sense for those users that need more than what Dropbox
> offers to then just swap over to a more mature and widely implemented
> platform for that side of things.
>
> To the extent developers do want to code to a specific back-end, then
> I would recommend a plug-in architecture, allowing for the same front-
> end code to talk to different file-hosting/version control systems,
> but of course that would be a much bigger project, and IMO premature
> at this stage.

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[tw] Re: Help with wikify

2011-05-11 Thread PMario
A code block looks like this

{{{
some text
}}}

eg:
return "{{{\n"+valueofformfield+"\n}}}"

"\n" ... line feed

-m

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[tw] Re: TiddlySpace cookie authentication problem

2011-05-11 Thread cd...@peermore.com
On May 11, 9:14 am, Peter Neumark  wrote:
> Hi!

Hi! For stuff related to TiddlySpace you are likely to get the
quickest responses by posting to the TiddlyWeb group:
http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlyweb

I'll go head and answer you here, but if we could continue the thread
in that group, that would be great.

> I'd like to use TiddlySpace in a corporate setting, so I need to host
> it myself. I followed all the steps 
> in:http://cdent.tiddlyspace.com/bags/cdent_public/tiddlers/Hosting%20you...
> At first it seemed like everything works, but I can't register or log
> in.

It is most likely this is related to a problem in your
tiddlywebconfig.py file, especially the server_host setting. Can you
post (or send to me privately if you don't want to expose your domain
to the public) your tiddlywebconfig.py so I can get some sense of
what's going on in there?

TiddlySpace requires that the server_host['host'] be set to an
externally visible domain and that you access the server by one of two
ways:

* that domain (e.g. tiddlyspace.com)
* a host within that domain (e.g. cdent.tiddlyspace.com)

If you access over 'localhost' you will reach the server, but then a
few things won't work predictably including:

* domain setting on cookies
* doing PUTs of tiddlers from within a generated TiddlyWiki

On tiddlyspace.com that domain points to an IP but so too does the
wildcard domain of *.tiddlyspace.com. A similar setup is what you want
for your server.

If messing with DNS is not possible, or at least not in a testing
scenario, then you can do something like this in /etc/hosts of the
server and the client machines you are testing with:

127.0.0.1   tiddlyspace.org cdent.tiddlyspace.org
fnd.tiddlyspace.org psd.tiddlyspace.org monkey.tiddlyspace.org system-
theme.tiddlyspace.org

replace '127.0.0.1' with the IP of the server in the /etc/hosts on the
client machines.

> Registration *does* create a record in the user mysql table, but I
> also get an error message (the HTTP PUT seems to fails).

You can get more detail about what's happening on the server by
adding:

   'log_level': 'DEBUG'

within the config dictionary of tiddlywebconfig.py and restarting the
server. Debugging messages will be sent to a file named
'tiddlyweb.log' in the instance directory.

> 1. HTTP GET tohttp://localhost/challenge/tiddlywebplugins.tiddlyspace.cookie
> 2. The server responds with a 303 redirect /status and issues a
> set_cookie for 'tiddlyweb_user' in the header
> 3. When the client does an HTTP GET for /status, it does not send the
> tiddlyweb_user cookie in the request.

Is the cookie restricted to a different domain than the one to which
the GET for /status is sent?

> When I log in to my tiddlyspace.com account, I can see that in step 3,
> the client (correctly sends the tiddlyweb_user cookie in the request
> headers). I also noticed that tiddlyspace.com uses a cscf_token
> cookie, which my local installation does not. Could this be the
> problem? If so, how can I fix it.

The csrf_token cookie should start showing up once the other cookie
issues have resolved. As you have said in your subsequent posting
using another hostname gets you a bit closer. Make sure that you have
flushed all your tiddlyweb/space related cookies before trying the
process again.

> I would really appreciate some answers, because we are on a very tight
> deadline for this project.

I'm going to be away from the network for the next 8 hours or so, but
will be back later and will be happy to continue helping however I
can. Seeing the tiddlywebconfig.py will be a good starting point. That
you got things running at all means you've made it past what ought to
be the hard parts, what's left are just tweaky details (I think). We
should be able to figure it out.

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[tw] Absolute path for backup folder

2011-05-11 Thread Tobias Beer
Is it possible to define a backup folder that is not a subdirectory to
the one TiddlyWiki resides in?

How would one have to specify config.options.txtBackupFolder?

These do not work:
config.options.txtBackupFolder = 'file:///C:\BackupFolder';
config.options.txtBackupFolder = 'C:\BackupFolder';

Ir is it that filesystem access for TiddlySaver.jar is restricted to
subdirectories?

Cheers, Tobias.

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[tw] DropBox TW : publishing and including for groups on the "public" Dropbox

2011-05-11 Thread Bauwe Bijl
Hi everybody

This time the export html (pure store) and a include tiddlers
tiddlywiki is worked out on the public side op DropBox ... so anyone
interested can join in ... from your local public DropBox folder!

I started a new post about dropbox and tw...
New because here is one of the options we explored and worked out..the
other post is about exploring more optionsthis is just one that
works -ish.

To make things work you need the following conditions...

1) DropBox installed on your PC
2) inside the Public folder a folder named : DropBoxPublisher
3) the DropBox PUBLISHER TiddlyWiki  inside that folder [1]

About the DropBox PUBLISHER (publishnotes.html):
This is a very simplified TiddlyWiki ... configured to work with the
including "public tw".
(since "notes" are "hip" @april... I was curious how such would
work ... so I made a basic NoteTiddlyWiki ...mockup...working a
little)

features:
only 1 type of tiddlers can be created (tagged "note" is default ... a
la newJournal)
Autosafe to "backup" is true
no sidebar/tabs etc.. just a list for the tiddlers tagged
"note" (tweaker bookmarklet can be used to rip the tw apart)
No option to set siteTitle etc. ... use as is
Export plugin installed ... so a export html file will be created in
the:
 /Public/DropBoxPublisher/  (if publishnotes.html is also there !
important)

You can download the Notepublisher (publishnotes.html [1] ) here:

Note Publisher
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9670094/DropBoxPublisher/publishnotes.html
(save as - html only ... )

More info is inside the PublishNotes TiddlyWiki (publishnotes.html)
links:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9670094/DropBoxPublisher/publishnotes.html#PublishNotes

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9670094/DropBoxPublisher/publishnotes.html#TiddlyWiki


What happens:
as you can see ... all urls from DropBox folder /Public//
DropBoxPublisher/
are similarapart from that number
Alex: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1316865/DropBoxPublisher/export.html
Bauwe: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9670094/DropBoxPublisher/export.html

This is because the default path of the export plugin is build up that
way (I adjusted the plugin so the default option is the PureStore to
export

So if you create tiddlers (Notes) and tag them with your name we can
Include them in lists inside the Include TiddlyWiki
So you "publish" in there via your own desktopfolder (all possible
since it's the same domain)

You can reach that tiddlywiki here:
TiddlyWiki DropBox Includer
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9670094/TiddlyWikiDBIncluder/twdbinc.html

At the moment TiddlyWiki DropBox Includer  [2] is Recieving:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1316865/DropBoxPublisher/export.html (tag
"alex")
and
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9670094/DropBoxPublisher/export.html (tag
"bauwe")

You can also check in the TiddlyWiki DropBox Includer's IncludeList
what urls are included.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9670094/TiddlyWikiDBIncluder/twdbinc.html#IncludeList

Everybody is invited to post tiddlers via this method in their
DropBox
... just have the paths ok and post me the url of your:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/ [your unique number here ] /DropBoxPublisher/
export.html
and tell me which name you add to the tags (just post here ... like
the rest of the "Public" DropBox url's of TiddlyWiki's are posted in
this group.

Next:
Also the Includer
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9670094/TiddlyWikiDBIncluder/twdbinc.html
can be downloaded (all the urls and include plugin inside) so
developers can give a twist on the workings...explore ideas (ask for
more tags etc.)..add scripts...explore and brake
I used a vanilla tw as Includeralso interesting how people would
shape that to their needs...
These new includers.html's  can be linked in this group again.

Last ...
I'm aware of the over-simplified concepts used here ...it's about
giving "shapes" to an idea.
... and inspiring others ... even if you dislike (also that generates
ideas)

Enjoy!

Bauwe

[1] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9670094/DropBoxPublisher/publishnotes.html
[2] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9670094/TiddlyWikiDBIncluder/twdbinc.html

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Re: [tw] TiddlySpace cookie authentication problem

2011-05-11 Thread Peter Neumark
A small correction:
It seems that the cookie will be correctly sent to the server if I use any
other hostname than localhost. Right now I am running into the problem that
the server is responding with a HTTP400 (originating from csrf.py).

All help is appreciated!
Peter

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Peter Neumark wrote:

> Hi!
>
> I'd like to use TiddlySpace in a corporate setting, so I need to host
> it myself. I followed all the steps in:
>
> http://cdent.tiddlyspace.com/bags/cdent_public/tiddlers/Hosting%20your%20own%20tiddlyspace
> At first it seemed like everything works, but I can't register or log
> in.
>
> Registration *does* create a record in the user mysql table, but I
> also get an error message (the HTTP PUT seems to fails).
> Then, when I try to log in, I see the following:
>
> 1. HTTP GET to
> http://localhost/challenge/tiddlywebplugins.tiddlyspace.cookie
> 2. The server responds with a 303 redirect /status and issues a
> set_cookie for 'tiddlyweb_user' in the header
> 3. When the client does an HTTP GET for /status, it does not send the
> tiddlyweb_user cookie in the request.
>
> I have tried logging in from both Firefox and Chrome under linux (from
> the same virtual machine). I edited cookie_form.py so the path is not
> set, added a valid 'expires' value far in the future, but nothing has
> changed!
>
> When I log in to my tiddlyspace.com account, I can see that in step 3,
> the client (correctly sends the tiddlyweb_user cookie in the request
> headers). I also noticed that tiddlyspace.com uses a cscf_token
> cookie, which my local installation does not. Could this be the
> problem? If so, how can I fix it.
>
> I would really appreciate some answers, because we are on a very tight
> deadline for this project.
> Thank you in advance,
> Peter Neumark
>
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[tw] TiddlySpace cookie authentication problem

2011-05-11 Thread Peter Neumark
Hi!

I'd like to use TiddlySpace in a corporate setting, so I need to host
it myself. I followed all the steps in:
http://cdent.tiddlyspace.com/bags/cdent_public/tiddlers/Hosting%20your%20own%20tiddlyspace
At first it seemed like everything works, but I can't register or log
in.

Registration *does* create a record in the user mysql table, but I
also get an error message (the HTTP PUT seems to fails).
Then, when I try to log in, I see the following:

1. HTTP GET to http://localhost/challenge/tiddlywebplugins.tiddlyspace.cookie
2. The server responds with a 303 redirect /status and issues a
set_cookie for 'tiddlyweb_user' in the header
3. When the client does an HTTP GET for /status, it does not send the
tiddlyweb_user cookie in the request.

I have tried logging in from both Firefox and Chrome under linux (from
the same virtual machine). I edited cookie_form.py so the path is not
set, added a valid 'expires' value far in the future, but nothing has
changed!

When I log in to my tiddlyspace.com account, I can see that in step 3,
the client (correctly sends the tiddlyweb_user cookie in the request
headers). I also noticed that tiddlyspace.com uses a cscf_token
cookie, which my local installation does not. Could this be the
problem? If so, how can I fix it.

I would really appreciate some answers, because we are on a very tight
deadline for this project.
Thank you in advance,
Peter Neumark

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