[tw] Re: TW interactions with php echo.

2011-12-02 Thread Eric Shulman
> its possible to say query a MySQL database and have the php file
> return a value using the print or echo functions.. with that
> result showing up as text in the target iframe "responseframe".
>
> However I want to use that feedback and process it inside TW. Thats
> the question.

> While the html /php functioning is well documented elsewhere... this
> interaction within TW is...well only you guys can answer that part of
> the question??? I hope.

In order to render the output using the TWCore wikify() processing,
you can't use an iframe, because that iframe is a completely separate
document environment, isolated from the TW run-time.

Fortunately, this plugin may offer a possible solution:
   http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#ExternalTiddlersPlugin
   http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#ExternalTiddlersPluginInfo

enjoy,
-e

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[tw] TW interactions with php echo.

2011-12-02 Thread skye riquelme
Hi All

I have asked this before. and haven't yet got a response. Not sure
its off topic or what?

I am playing with having TW interact with mySQL, to store references
and the like.

Using HTML forms and server-side php I can get data from TW stored
into mySQL.

The challenge is getting it back in a useable form. Using code that
starts like -

<>http://domian/
uploadPDF/estudando.php" method="POST" target="responseframe">.

its possible to say query a MySQL database and have the php file
return a value using the print or echo functions.. with that
result showing up as text in the target iframe "responseframe".

However I want to use that feedback and process it inside TW. Thats
the question.

For example, the php file could format the echo response to read
something like "[[open off-site file|refURL]]"...where refURL is an
actual url...this text is not that useful. I want to be able
to "wikify" is so that the output is an actual functioning link...
within TW.

While the html /php functioning is well documented elsewhere... this
interaction within TW is...well only you guys can answer that part of
the question??? I hope.

Thanks in Advance
Skye


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[tw] Re: Offline apps questionnairre

2011-12-02 Thread Måns
Ok - I did it +1

On 2 Dec., 19:03, Måns  wrote:
> Hi Jon
>
> > I highly encourage TiddlyWiki users to participate to get across their
> > concerns:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dHZLZjlIWnR6ai1r...
>
> > It's a great chance to explain what TiddlyWiki's ability to run from a
> > file uri means to you, get across why you depend on it (e.g. no
> > internet connection / security).
>
> Please explain what to write/answer here:
> What one thing would make it easier for you to implement offline
> functionality in your apps?
>
> and here:
> Of the APIs you have used, what were the ‘pain points’?
>
> And here:
> How could we improve documentation and support you better as a
> developer?
>
> I'd really want to do this questionnaire, for the sake of TiddlyWiki,
> many of the questions are over way my head though - and I believe some
> of them are best answered by our developers.
>
> Can we share some common ground (same answers to some of the
> questions) with the devs - some of the way?
>
> Cheers Måns Mårtensson

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[tw] Re: How to turn autosave off for SystemSettings shadowed tiddler?

2011-12-02 Thread PMario
@Wolfgang - Should be fixed in the next version.
see: https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/tiddlywiki/issues/72#issuecomment-2990796

In the meantime you can create a zzConfig tiddler tagged systemConfig
and add the following code. It will create a hardCoreTweak, that
should fix it.

var myVersion=version.major+version.minor/10+version.revision/100;
if ( (myVersion == 2.65) || (myVersion == 2.64)) {
  function commitSystemSettings(storeWasDirty)
  {
if(systemSettingSave) {
  window.clearTimeout(systemSettingSave);
}
systemSettingSave = window.setTimeout(function() {
  var tiddler = store.getTiddler('SystemSettings');
  autoSaveChanges(null,[tiddler]);
}, 1000);
  }
}

I did test it with TW V2.6.5

-m

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[tw] Re: SyntaxHighlighterPlugin3

2011-12-02 Thread PMario
Could you link to one of your spaces?
-m

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[tw] Re: SyntaxHighlighterPlugin3

2011-12-02 Thread PMario
On Dec 2, 1:18 pm, ccT  wrote:
> - I put [[ShCore.css]] and [[ShThemeDefault.css]] on a personnal
> StyleSheet, itself being referenced in the default StyleSheet: could
> it be a problem ?
Does "personal StyleSheet" mean, the StyleSheet tiddler is private?
If so, it will cause problems for everyone, that is not a member of a
space.

Due to the TS include mechanism, it is possible, that a public
StyleSheet from an included space interferes with your space.

> - Thanks to Paolo regarding issue #4): I found it before but since I
> read it is designed for wordpress I concluded that it would not fit
> TW. Am I wrong ?
> - regarding issues #1) and #2), I was methodically (read slowly) on my
> way to test the customizations made on the StyleSheet to isolate a
> possible conflict but I had to switch to another task... I remember
> that I partially solved the horizontal lift problem but obtained a
> vertical lift permanently I made no porgress regarding the black
> frame around code sections.
I did encounter some problems with invalid comments inside style sheet
tiddlers
/*
some comment
*/

will break the style sheet chain. It needs to be
/* some comments */

just a guess.
-m


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[tw] Re: Is there a SyntaxHighlighter3 plugin for the TiddlyWiki "editor" mode ??

2011-12-02 Thread PMario
On Dec 2, 5:55 pm, dip  wrote:
> I've checked "codemirror-plugins". But it's View Mode is not as
> impressive as "SyntaxHighlighter3".
What do you mean by "not as impressive"?

> also they don't work together.
Since imo codemirror can replace SH3 I didn't make them compatible.
But may be there should be some info in codemirror, that informs the
user.

-m

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[tw] Is there a SyntaxHighlighter3 plugin for the TiddlyWiki "editor" mode ??

2011-12-02 Thread dip
SyntaxHighlighter3 plugin is great for showing code on tiddlywiki. It
works modifying the  with class "viewer". Is there any such
plugin for the edit mode i.e, for the "editor" div. ??? So that
writing the codes may become easy.

I've checked "codemirror-plugins". But it's View Mode is not as
impressive as "SyntaxHighlighter3".
also they don't work together.

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[tw] Autosuggest plugin?

2011-12-02 Thread Serdar Yegulalp
I have a number of tiddlers in my wiki with fairly long names. What
I'd love to see is some kind of autosuggest mechanism -- for instance,
I type [[ and the first couple of letters, and it automatically
suggests any titles that match what I'm typing.

I imagine this functionality could be rolled in as a plugin, but I
scouted around all the usual plugin repositories and didn't find
anything that really fit the bill.

Suggestions?

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[tw] Re: TiddlySpace Annual Report 2011

2011-12-02 Thread Måns
Hi Chris

>      3,839 users operating
>      6,237 spaces containing
>    526,341 revisions of
>    251,432 tiddlers having
>    156,657 different titles[2]

Great :-)
Congratulations...

>The documentation is either hard to find, missing or incomplete.
>
> For the second year of TiddlySpace these are the things that must be
> fixed. TiddlySpace is a free service and open source project.¨

> This means that for  the public/free TiddlySpace version to be its best the 
> community that uses it must help to make it great by participating in active 
> and  contentious feedback and dialog.

Check,,,

> To that end I've gone ahead and created a google group specifically for 
> discussing the use and improvement of tiddlyspace from the perspective of 
> people who use it:
>      http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlyspace

Thanks :-)

> I know that people have talked about wanting to use forums or TiddlySpace 
> itself as the engine for discussion and documentation, but until such a time 
> as we have the resources for hosting a forum or developing a forum engine in 
> TiddlySpace, google groups will have to do. With good email hygiene and 
> discipline about effectively capturing useful information to wikis, it can 
> work.

Ok - discipline has to be heightend - and contributions has to come
from the users -  Got it -!!

> Thanks to everyone for helping make TiddlySpace the success it has been thus 
> far. The community is what makes an open source project live.

Thanks for making TiddlySpace/TiddlyWeb in the first place - it has
multiplied the possibilites for using TiddlyWiki with a factor I can't
even count...
Imho anyone who is fascinated by TiddlyWiki - should try TiddlySpace
to get even more reason to be fascinated...


Thank you very much for the report - Its great to see some statistics,
and get some thoughtfull and thoughtprovoking comments to "connect the
dots"/explain the current status of things..

Good job!!

Måns Mårtensson

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[tw] Re: Offline apps questionnairre

2011-12-02 Thread Måns
Hi Jon

> I highly encourage TiddlyWiki users to participate to get across their
> concerns:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dHZLZjlIWnR6ai1r...
>
> It's a great chance to explain what TiddlyWiki's ability to run from a
> file uri means to you, get across why you depend on it (e.g. no
> internet connection / security).

Please explain what to write/answer here:
What one thing would make it easier for you to implement offline
functionality in your apps?

and here:
Of the APIs you have used, what were the ‘pain points’?

And here:
How could we improve documentation and support you better as a
developer?

I'd really want to do this questionnaire, for the sake of TiddlyWiki,
many of the questions are over way my head though - and I believe some
of them are best answered by our developers.

Can we share some common ground (same answers to some of the
questions) with the devs - some of the way?

Cheers Måns Mårtensson

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[tw] TiddlySpace Annual Report 2011

2011-12-02 Thread chris . dent


I started graphing the monthly change[1] in users and spaces on
http://tiddlyspace.com about a year ago, so now seems like an
opportune time to reflect on that year.

As of last night there are

3,839 users operating
6,237 spaces containing
  526,341 revisions of
  251,432 tiddlers having
  156,657 different titles[2]

In addition to providing a place where people can host their
TiddlyWiki for free, TiddlySpace has also become a service for
experimenting with the use of tiddlers as the data model for
simple and innovative web apps. Both activites have helped to drive
improvement and development in TiddlyWiki and TiddlyWeb[3]. For
example, as a result of the large number of users on TiddlySpace,
performance and scaling problems in TiddlyWeb have been identified and
solved, sometimes by several orders of magnitude.

If there has been one clear learning from the last year it is that the
tiddler concept is useful generally, not just in TiddlyWiki. The same
principles that make it flexible and powerful in TiddlyWiki are just
as present on the open web, driven by TiddlyWeb giving each tiddler
its own unique URI.

While the TiddlySpace service has matured well from a technical
standpoint, there is still a long way to go to make it easy, effective
and pleasant to use. Most of its power is obscured behind incomplete
or unintuitive interfaces and motivated individuals who hope to find
documentation are stymied: The documentation is either hard to find,
missing or incomplete.

For the second year of TiddlySpace these are the things that must be
fixed. TiddlySpace is a free service and open source project. While
BT/Osmosoft provide resources for hosting the service and leading
development of the project those resources are limited and priority
must be given to BT's internal use of TiddlySpace. This means that for
the public/free TiddlySpace version to be its best the community that
uses it must help to make it great by participating in active and
contentious feedback and dialog. I wrote about this a while ago[4].

To that end I've gone ahead and created a google group specifically
for discussing the use and improvement of tiddlyspace from the
perspective of people who use it:

http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlyspace

(Discussion of the technical guts can carry on in the tiddlyweb group
as TiddlySpace is basically an assemblage of TiddlyWeb plugins.)

I know that people have talked about wanting to use forums or
TiddlySpace itself as the engine for discussion and documentation, but
until such a time as we have the resources for hosting a forum or
developing a forum engine in TiddlySpace, google groups will have to
do. With good email hygiene and discipline about effectively capturing
useful information to wikis, it can work.

Thanks to everyone for helping make TiddlySpace the success it has
been thus far. The community is what makes an open source project
live.

[1] http://tscount.tiddlyspace.com/
[2] this means there are approximately 100,000 tiddlers with the same
names stored in different bags.
[3] http://tiddlyweb.com/
[4] http://cdent.tiddlyspace.com/On%20Being%20Free%20and%20Not%20Product
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[tw] Re: Help! I'm a new TiddlyWiki user and am trying to figure out what I need to do in order to make my Tiddler be online

2011-12-02 Thread passingby
Hello Linda,
I think I understand what you are trying to do. You downloaded a blank 
tiddlywiki from tiddlywiki.com and you want to upload it to an online 
place. To upload a blank tw to anywhere would require additional plugins. 
There is another easier way to do that. Create an account at tiddlyspot.com 
and it will create a blank tiddlywiki for you which is already online. Now 
you can download it to your desktop and make changes and then upload it 
back again using links on the right sidebar.
Additionally you can create an account at tiddlyspace.com and do the same 
thing there. The interface might be a bit different though.

Hope this helps.

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[tw] Offline apps questionnairre

2011-12-02 Thread rakugo
Just repeating the link that Paul Downey shared here [1] for the
benefits of the community who do not check the tiddlyweb group and may
not have seen it.

I highly encourage TiddlyWiki users to participate to get across their
concerns:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dHZLZjlIWnR6ai1rRFI0ZkFfRWc0eGc6MA#gid=0

It's a great chance to explain what TiddlyWiki's ability to run from a
file uri means to you, get across why you depend on it (e.g. no
internet connection / security).

[1] 
http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlyweb/browse_thread/thread/1e9e70d0449ecb78

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[tw] Re: SyntaxHighlighterPlugin3

2011-12-02 Thread ccT
Hello PMario,

Sorry for the late answer.

- The post on SyntaxHighlighterPlugin3 here seems to solve issue #3)
(see my first post).
- I put [[ShCore.css]] and [[ShThemeDefault.css]] on a personnal
StyleSheet, itself being referenced in the default StyleSheet: could
it be a problem ?
- Thanks to Paolo regarding issue #4): I found it before but since I
read it is designed for wordpress I concluded that it would not fit
TW. Am I wrong ?
- regarding issues #1) and #2), I was methodically (read slowly) on my
way to test the customizations made on the StyleSheet to isolate a
possible conflict but I had to switch to another task... I remember
that I partially solved the horizontal lift problem but obtained a
vertical lift permanently I made no porgress regarding the black
frame around code sections.

I'll post here my results.

Cheers


http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/browse_thread/thread/2e7e52f8c1ba386f?hl=fr

On 1 déc, 21:03, PMario  wrote:
> Did you check if your StyleSheet tiddler contains:
>
> [[ShCore.css]]
> [[ShThemeDefault.css]]
>
> -m

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[tw] Re: Help! I'm a new TiddlyWiki user and am trying to figure out what I need to do in order to make my Tiddler be online

2011-12-02 Thread Davo
Hello Linda

On Dec 1, 8:14 pm, linda kellett  wrote:
> I've been working on this for over three hours and am very frustrated.

I can relate to that!

> I've been able to download my initial (empty) document to my desktop,
> but I don't know what I need to do to actually upload a Tiddler
> somewhere (ANYwhere!!!). Do I need to have a website first? The
> directions are very confusing.

I would rename the empty.html file to index.html
Load index.html into your browser.  OK any Javascript warning.
Click 'new tiddler' on the right.  Click Edit above the tiddler and
enter some information and a title.  Then click Done.
Now click 'save changes' on the right.  This saves the tiddler in the
index.html file.
Reload the index.html in your browser and you'll see the tiddler is
now shown in the index and can be opened by clicking on the name.

Once you've built your web site, you can upload the index.html file,
plus any referenced files, to pretty much any server.
The editing capability will disappear once the file(s) have been
uploaded.

> Can you assist me? Do I need a plugin? How do I know which one?

Whether you need a plugin depends on what you want your TiddyWiki to
do.
Once you progress, I'd suggest the answer will be yes.

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