[tw] Re: TiddlySpace: contributing and other things
Hi, sorry for delayed answering. Jeremy wrote: In terms of tiddlywiki.com, if you've got extensive modifications in mind it might be better to create your own space including tiddlywiki-com.tiddlyspace.com and tiddlywiki-ref-com.tiddlyspace.com, and then rehearse your modifications there. Jon wrote: tiddlyspace member can contribute to the wiki however regardless of membership So this is one of the points the questions was all about. How one can contribute if he or she is not a member of a space? How including a space in one's own space will affect the included space? I saw your answer; does it mean that were suggesting a modification to the http://tiddlywiki.com/#Mathematics tiddler? Well, you asked for more details, and as I understand, the only details for plugins when they are listed are how do they perform and how they are installed. I provided some details about installation.. Well, I can agree that writing all of them in the tiddler will make it bulky and complicated; on the other hand, what else did you expect? If you're interested in helping with the general gardening of tiddlywiki.com then I can add you as a member. Ok, I'll let you know if I have some useful ideas. Yakov, jeremy you are now members of http://tiddlywiki.org/ Right, thanks. Ah, as I see, Bauwe has added the note on contributing.. I think I'll rename the tiddler into About the old and the new wikis since the current name doesn't have any hint on how to contribute. And yet, I have couple questions right after this: first, is there any place (aside the TiddlyWiki and TiddlyWikiDev groups) for discussions on documentation? second, what does the @tiddlywiki link (without any tiddler name before it) mean? …I've gone ahead and created a google group specifically for discussing the use and improvement of TiddlySpace from the perspective of people who use it: http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlyspace That's great. I've added the list of discussion groups to the wiki [1]. Please check if the wording -- the title of [1] and addition in [2] have correct wording (I added in the [2] that TiddlySpace is based on the TiddlyWeb server-side TiddlyWiki implementation. but due to the current discussions I suspect one would object to the fact that TiddlySpace is a server-side TiddlyWiki implementation.. [1] http://tiddlywiki.org/#[[The%20community%20forum]] [2] http://tiddlywiki.org/#TiddlySpace -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: TiddlySpace: contributing and other things
Hi Yakov Right, thanks. Ah, as I see, Bauwe has added the note on contributing.. I think I'll rename the tiddler into About the old and the new wikis since the current name doesn't have any hint on how to contribute. ...maybe it should be AboutContributing...? And yet, I have couple questions right after this: first, is there any place (aside the TiddlyWiki and TiddlyWikiDev groups) for discussions on documentation? There is no specific place yet to discuss the documentation. But there are some options you can use: - this group - a shared tiddlyspace (create a documentdiscussion space and add members...so they can collaborate there) - use the following mechanism in tiddlyspace and follow spaces (tiddlywiki or people) use the the reply link to respond. - IRC ...! I believe we should use Irc more. It's effective to have live conversations. http://tiddlywiki.tiddlyspace.com/#[[TiddlyWiki%20Irc%20Chat]] second, what does the @tiddlywiki link (without any tiddler name before it) mean? @tiddlywiki is a inter-tiddlyspace-link to the space tiddlywiki When used in TiddlySpace it will bring you to: http://tiddlywiki.tiddlyspace.com (which is also http://tiddlywiki.org ) Bauwe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Strange Refresh Behaviour
PERFECT...yet again On 3 dez, 22:30, Eric Shulman elsdes...@gmail.com wrote: minor correction: the form ... has ***NO*** action=... defined (and it doesn't need one, anyway) -e -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: TW interactions with php echo.
Hi Again suggestion. In trying to access Jeremys message as you suggested (from a blanck TW - with External Tiddlers TemporaryTiddlers and SectionLinks only installed)... I got a macro error...saying that names is undefinied (in FF) and Cannot convert names to object in Opera. This also raises a question. to have ExternalTiddlersPlugin read in information from a php file that is producing output with echowould I have to format that output as a tiddler..div title title=' ' creator=' .../pre/ div ? Thanks skye On 3 dez, 21:53, Eric Shulman elsdes...@gmail.com wrote: My main application is using a local TW and uploading data server- side, so I have a major conflict on domain nameyour plugin explains that acessing a file server-side from a local file...wont work. Since you are planning to run a local TW, you should be ok. The cross-domain restrictions only apply if the TW document is hosted online. If the document is being run locally (i.e., file://...), then remote access to URLs *does* work (at least, it does for me). Try this: * Install ExternalTiddlersPlugin in a *local* empty.html file. * Create a new tiddler containing: tiddlerhttp://www.TiddlyWiki.com/#HelloThere When the macro is rendered, you *should* see the remotely-accessed text from Jeremy's [[HelloThere]] tiddler. Let me know if that works. enjoy, -e -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: TW interactions with php echo.
In trying to access Jeremys message as you suggested (from a blanck TW - with External Tiddlers TemporaryTiddlers and SectionLinks only installed)... I got a macro error...saying that names is undefinied (in FF) and Cannot convert names to object in Opera. Minor syntax issue with macro usage. Since the parameter starts with http:, the TWCore macro processor sees this as a name:value pair, rather than a URL. To be properly recognized, add doubled square brackets around the parameter to quote it, like this: tiddler [[http://www.TiddlyWiki.com/#HelloThere]] This also raises a question. to have ExternalTiddlersPlugin read in information from a php file that is producing output with echowould I have to format that output as a tiddler..div title title=' ' creator=' .../pre/ div ? Nope. ExternalTiddlersPlugin will read in *any* externally-provided content as plain text. However, *IF* there is a storeArea within that content, then it can also parse and extract an individual tiddler definition from that content. enjoy, -e Eric Shulman TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios TiddlyTools needs YOUR financial support... Help ME to continue to help YOU... make a generous donation today: http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#Donations Professional TiddlyWiki Consulting Services... Analysis, Design, and Custom Solutions: http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#Contact -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Minor error with RandomLinkMacro after TW upgrade
I just upgraded from TW v2.60 to v2.65 and it was mostly smooth
sailing. Thanks for that folks!
However I have a small problem with the RandomLinkMacro now. Namely it
won't work on the first click. On the second click and later it works
fine.
Firebug gives me this error on first click:
title is null:
title = title.replace(/_/g, __).replace(/ /g, _);
I have checked Tobi Beer's site (http://tobibeer.tiddlyspace.com/
#RandomLinkMacro) but there's no update for this macro yet. Maybe he
reads this. :)
The code line Firebug mentions is part of the Story function by the
way, not of the plugin itself:
//--
//-- Story functions
//--
function Story(containerId,idPrefix)
{
this.container = containerId;
this.idPrefix = idPrefix;
this.highlightRegExp = null;
this.tiddlerId = function(title) {
title = title.replace(/_/g, __).replace(/ /g, _);
var id = this.idPrefix + title;
return id==this.container ? this.idPrefix + _ + title : id;
};
this.containerId = function() {
return this.container;
};
}
--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
TiddlyWiki group.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at
http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: TW interactions with php echo.
Hi Again Eric OK tried your suggestion about double brackets - and nothing happened no error message and no HelloThere message either.! AND, as I am understanding your explanation...if I create a text output and its starts with div id=storeArea...and then uses the same format as a true tiddler ... div title=' ' creator=' .../pre/ div ...then the plugin will read ii in a create a new tiddler That would be fantastic Thanks Again Skye On 4 dez, 16:04, Eric Shulman elsdes...@gmail.com wrote: In trying to access Jeremys message as you suggested (from a blanck TW - with External Tiddlers TemporaryTiddlers and SectionLinks only installed)... I got a macro error...saying that names is undefinied (in FF) and Cannot convert names to object in Opera. Minor syntax issue with macro usage. Since the parameter starts with http:, the TWCore macro processor sees this as a name:value pair, rather than a URL. To be properly recognized, add doubled square brackets around the parameter to quote it, like this: tiddler [[http://www.TiddlyWiki.com/#HelloThere]] This also raises a question. to have ExternalTiddlersPlugin read in information from a php file that is producing output with echowould I have to format that output as a tiddler..div title title=' ' creator=' .../pre/ div ? Nope. ExternalTiddlersPlugin will read in *any* externally-provided content as plain text. However, *IF* there is a storeArea within that content, then it can also parse and extract an individual tiddler definition from that content. enjoy, -e Eric Shulman TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios TiddlyTools needs YOUR financial support... Help ME to continue to help YOU... make a generous donation today: http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#Donations Professional TiddlyWiki Consulting Services... Analysis, Design, and Custom Solutions: http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#Contact -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Rounded Corners in Opera
Hi Folks I have recently been playing around with Opera as a browser. I quite like it, although you need to us ethe TiddySaver.jar. And, at first it was not rendering my rounded corners on the display area as I like. and have just found out that the CSS for rounded corners in Opera (as off version 11) is simply border-radius. and for some fum you can have the x-radius different from y-radius Anyway..some of you may find that useful!! Thanks Skye -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: TW interactions with php echo.
OK tried your suggestion about double brackets - and nothing happened no error message and no HelloThere message either.! hmmm... that should have worked. It does for me. AND, as I am understanding your explanation...if I create a text output and its starts with div id=storeArea...and then uses the same format as a true tiddler ... div title=' ' creator=' .../pre/ div ...then the plugin will read ii in a create a new tiddler That would be fantastic You can define a storeArea *anywhere* in your output and the plugin will detect it. You can use the #tiddlername param in the URL to extract a specific tiddler. However, this doesn't automatically create a new tiddler. To create a tiddler from the remote content, you need to use the enhanced 'missing tiddler fallback' syntax provided by the plugin, like this: tiddler [[TiddlerName|http://...]] If TiddlerName exists in the document, then it is transcluded normally. If the tiddler is missing, then the remote URL (following the | separator) is used to retrieve content and then automatically create a new tiddler named TiddlerName (controlled by the chkExternalTiddlersImport option) enjoy, -e Eric Shulman TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Rounded Corners in Opera
On Dec 4, 4:54 pm, skye riquelme riquelme.s...@gmail.com wrote:
found out that the CSS for rounded corners in
Opera (as off version 11) is simply border-radius
Other browsers use a different CSS attribute name for this. To ensure
that your document appears the same (or at least similar) across
different browsers, you need to include multiple attribute
definitions, like this:
.displayArea {
border:1px solid;
border-radius:1em; /* Opera 11+ */
-moz-border-radius:1em; /* FireFox */
-webkit-border-radius:1em; /* Chrome, Safari, other webkit-based
browsers */
}
Note: AFAIK, InternetExplorer still doesn't support rounded corners.
-e
--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
TiddlyWiki group.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at
http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] 2 suggestions for making Tiddly more into Scienentific Tool
Greetings Group of this powerful TiddlyThing, two suggesions: 1. another outline fomat for # refelcting scientific outlines: instead of 1.introduction a.Schema b. Role c. Narration d. ideology e. social space f. context 2. Economy of Attention a.sucking i. sucking example b. radiating i. radiating example c. indirect barter d. hieracy of attention e. shame i. confomity ii.creativity it sould look like 1.introduction 1.1Schema 1.2 Role 1.3 Narration 1.4 ideology 1.5 social space 1.6 context 2. Economy of Attention 2.1sucking 2.2 sucking example 2.3 radiating 2.3.1 radiating example 2.4 indirect barter 2.5 hieracy of attention 2.6 shame 2.6.1 confomity 2.6.2.creativity 2. suggestion a cross reference looks like (Franck 2007: 45) if we have a tiddler called Franck 2007 it would be nice if Franck 2007: 45 would link to an internal chapter named 45 inside of this tiddler. perhaps to have an sign like §45 or just simply the !45 we already have but have it direct accessible through Franck 2007: 45 PS: i am so happy to have found tiddlywiki because it is close to exaclty what i have ben searching for for years. An hypertextual Zettelkasten. As you perhaps know Zettelkasten is a Hypertext without Computers but with Cards. Niklas Luhman the great genuis of Systemtheory in Sociology worked with that tool. Greetings, Niklas Wagner wagnern.de -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: 2 suggestions for making Tiddly more into Scienentific Tool
1. another outline fomat for # refelcting scientific outlines:
The default bullet/number format for multi-level ordered lists (OL)
is defined by the TWCore in the [[StyleSheetLayout]] shadow tiddler:
ol {list-style-type:decimal;}
ol ol {list-style-type:lower-alpha;}
ol ol ol {list-style-type:lower-roman;}
ol ol ol ol {list-style-type:decimal;}
ol ol ol ol ol {list-style-type:lower-alpha;}
ol ol ol ol ol ol {list-style-type:lower-roman;}
ol ol ol ol ol ol ol {list-style-type:decimal;}
You can override these defaults by adding the following to the
[[StyleSheet]] tiddler (which is applied *after* the TWCore
StyleSheetLayout)
ol {list-style-type:decimal;}
ol ol {list-style-type:decimal;}
ol ol ol {list-style-type:decimal;}
ol ol ol ol {list-style-type:decimal;}
ol ol ol ol ol {list-style-type:decimal;}
ol ol ol ol ol ol {list-style-type:decimal;}
ol ol ol ol ol ol ol {list-style-type:decimal;}
(i.e., use decimal style for all bullet levels)
a cross reference looks like (Franck 2007: 45)
if we have a tiddler called Franck 2007 it would be nice if Franck
2007: 45 would link to an internal chapter named 45 inside of this
tiddler.
perhaps to have an sign like §45 or just simply the !45 we already
have but have it direct accessible through Franck 2007: 45
What you are thinking of is called a tiddler section. If the
tiddler named Franck 2007 contains a heading with text 45 (e.g, !
45), then you can include that section into another tiddler by using:
tiddler [[Franck 2007##45]]
(i.e., [[TiddlerName##sectionname]])
Note that, while the TWCore supports references to sections within
*some* macros, it is not universal for all uses of tiddler references
within macro parameters. Also, the TWCore doesn't natively support
*links* to specific sections (the TWCore treats the section name as if
it was part of the tiddler title).
Fortunately, I've written a plugin that extends the core handling for
sections to permit direct linking to sections as well as other
enhanced section-related handling:
http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#SectionLinksPlugin
Once installed, you can then write:
[[TiddlerName##sectionname]]
to embed a link to that section within other tiddler content. When
the link is clicked, the referenced tiddler is opened (if not already
open), and then the display is automatically scrolled so that the
desired section within that tiddler is visible (normally, it scrolls
to the *top* of the tiddler).
enjoy,
-e
Eric Shulman
TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
TiddlyTools needs YOUR financial support...
Help ME to continue to help YOU...
make a generous donation today:
http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#Donations
Professional TiddlyWiki Consulting Services...
Analysis, Design, and Custom Solutions:
http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#Contact
--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
TiddlyWiki group.
To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at
http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
