[tw] Re: NEW: LinkifyPlugin - another improved version of RedirectMacro / AutoWeaving

2012-04-16 Thread Tobias Beer
@Everyone,

A) First of all, please let me know, if you would agree to the 
following: For the sake of being able to use the regex modifier in full, I 
want to change the plugin so that terms are separated via || instead of 
just | ... which would then allow to use the somewhat crucial pipe | 
character inside a regex.

B) Should auto linkification for all tiddlers be default, instead of having 
to turn it on explicitly?


@Albert,

I'm glad you enjoy the plugin.

As for your suggestions, I believe I will tackle them in this order as time 
allows:

+2) Editing linkification in the edit template.

+3b) Redirect linkification upon rename
-3a) I concur, this is something for a more complex RenameTiddlers kind 
of macro.

?1) Global modfifiers...
Here I find it hard to make up my mind. Should this apply to all tiddlers? 
If not, (how) should one decide which tiddlers to include or exclude from 
these global modifiers, via some tag or via a config line? Should a 
plural-s perhaps always be part of any modifier that doesn't include 
wildcards? Anyhow, if implemented, I believe this should be part of the 
regex that tries to match tiddler text, instead of having multiple 
formatters for each (under the hood).

@twgrp
I notice way to make a full line not linkify is a blank space at start. 
May I suggest minimizing the nomenclature and stick with the ~ sign also 
here?

I beg to differ. We are only talking about LinkifyConfig and ways to write 
down comments next to a config line. A tilde ~ does only add distracting 
semantics from my point of view. I could perhaps allow for // but then the 
whole thing gets this technical feel to it which I don't see a need for. 
So, to turn the question around, why would you think that allowing for 
comment lines via blanks would be a bad idea... other than there perhaps 
being little to no other environment making use of comments this way.

Cheers, Tobias.


Am Samstag, 14. April 2012 14:35:05 UTC+2 schrieb Albert Riedinger:

 Hi Tobias,

 thank you very much for your wonderful plugin! It will save me a lot of 
 time and makes TiddlyWiki complete. I hope that this concept would become a 
 core element of the next TW release. I think that the WikiWords approach is 
 less flexible and easy to use ... and also a bit outdated.

 I'm new to TW and used Tomboy a lot in the past, where automatic 
 linkification is the regular way to reference notes, so I missed this 
 feature from the beginning.

 I have to test your plugin a little bit further in the next time, 
 especially with my imported Tomboy notes which are huge with lots of 
 references. I'll give you more feedback in near future.

 I have three suggestions for new features, which would me (and maybe 
 others) make VERY happy :)

 1A. a possibility to define global modifiers in LinkifyConfig → EXAMPLE: 
 line @@@|@@@s [[@@@ – Discussion]] ... could mean: all tiddlers like 
 Wiki, TiddlyWiki, Command, Plugin and so on, would be referenced by 
 the words Wikis, TiddlyWikis, Commands, Plugins and also by Wiki – 
 Discussion, Command – Discussion ...

 2. a macro which would create an input field in EditTemplate for editing 
 aliases of the tiddler (see for example TiddlerAliasPlugin[1]) ... this 
 macro could edit the corresponding line in LinkifyConfig → it would 
 simplify the whole process

 3A. like in Tomboy[2] → automatic refactoring linkifications after 
 renaming a tiddler (a bit complicated and maybe an idea for another plugin) 
 ... to avoid unwanted edits: after renaming a tiddler a pop up window could 
 appear with a list of tiddlers where the automatic linkifaction changes 
 would be applied by LinkifyPlugin → users could exclude those tiddlers 
 where they won't these changes to be applied (same solution as in Tomboy)

 OR ... 3B. same as 3A → without editing the linkifications inside 
 tiddlers, but rather automatically adding an alias of the renamed tiddler 
 to the corresponding line in LinkifyConfig (user would be asked before 
 adding) → EXAMPLE: tiddler with the name [[Wiki]] → renamed to 
 [[TiddlyWiki]] → line in LinkifyConfig: Wiki → changes to: 
 Wiki|TiddlyWiki OR Wiki|*Wiki→ after further renaming [[TiddlyWiki]] to 
 [[Wiki – TiddlyWiki]] → line in LinkifyConfig changes to: Wiki|TiddlyWiki 
 [[Wiki – TiddlyWiki]] OR Wiki|*Wiki [[Wiki – TiddlyWiki]]

 OR ... 3C. a combination of 3A + 3B → the user decides which refactoring 
 method would be executed (on a by-tiddler-basis like in 3A?)

 My english is not the best, but I hope you'll understand my suggestions. 
 Please ask if not :)

 Kind regards,
 Albert

 [1] http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/Beta.html#TiddlerAliasPlugin
 [2] http://projects.gnome.org/tomboy/


 Am Mittwoch, 11. April 2012 09:38:13 UTC+2 schrieb Tobias Beer:

 Hi everyone,

 Inspired anwe by the recent discussion [1] about Autoweaving and 
 RedirectMacro [2]...

 A few months, ago I also played with ideas of enhancing this plugin.
 Yesterday I turned this experiment into something that 

[tw] Re: A couple of Newbie Questions

2012-04-16 Thread Måns
Hi Andrew
 Isn't Trasnclusion wonderful.

 [[StyleSheet]]
 .nobullets * {
 display: inline;}

 .nobullets li {
 list-style-type: none;
 margin-left:-2em;

 }

 [[MainMenu]]
 alias a {{\{\{nobullets\{\\list filter [tag[%0]]\\\}\}\}}}

 [[MyTiddler]]
 a tag

Great idea - good example!!

Thanks for sharing it here :-)

Cheers Måns Mårtensson

Ps:

I've been using the AliasPlugin for smileys:

http://smileys.tiddlyspace.com/#Smile
http://manto.tiddlyspace.gir.dk/#Smil

animations and other stuff:

http://dias.tiddlyspace.gir.dk/Aliases.txt

AliasPlugin http://www.tiddlytools.com/#AliasPlugin is a great way to
personalize (and simplify) macro calls of all kinds...


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[tw] Re: Opening Word file directly from local folder in TiddlyWiki?

2012-04-16 Thread Julie
Thanks, Skye!  I appreciate your response and at least I know how to make 
it find the file. :)

I was hoping to do something in Word and have it open it because the file 
needs to stay editable, so maybe I'm going to try another avenue.

On Saturday, April 14, 2012 2:15:49 PM UTC-4, skye riquelme wrote:

 Hi Julie 

 I am not an expert, but maybe I can shed some light on this. 

 Firstly, your syntax is ok. But the file address is not. You can use 
 relative file addresses like /SubPasta/file.html - which gets the 
 file.html in the sub-folder SubPasta...ou maybe ../ 
 BrotherPasta/file.html - which gets the file.html from a folder 
 parellel to one containing your TW. OR you can use full 
 adresses...something like file:///C:/Users/Name/Documents/TWFolder/ 
 file.html (obviously I am using a windows file structure). SO the 
 syntax becomes [[simulation 1|/folderName/file.html]] 

 Secondly. in the above cases your browser (I use FF) will open 
 file.html probably in a new window (depending on your browser 
 settings) because it (the browser) knows about .html files and knows 
 what to do with them. But does your browser know what to do with 
 a .docx file??? You may be able to set your browser settings to 
 recognise this file extension it depends on your browsers 
 ability. 

 For example, as a teacher I work a lot with presentations...but they 
 are a pain in relation to TWas I have yet to figure out how to get 
 FF to understand OpenOffice extensions. So my simple work-around is to 
 export my completed presentations into PDF format. which all (?) 
 browsers know how to read. So I can use [[myPresentation|Folder/ 
 present.pdf]] which opens the PDF file in a separate window. Or, what 
 I normally use is something like htmliframe src=Folder/ 
 present.pdf width=100% height=500/iframe/html which opens the 
 pdf file directly inside the tiddler.so I dont even have to leave 
 the TW environment!!! 

 Hope that is both useful and (at least basically) correct 

 Yours 
 Skye 

 On 13 abr, 11:03, Julie radac...@gmail.com wrote: 
  I've been playing with a code I found somewhere to open a Word file 
  directly, which looks like this: 
  [[Simulation 1|file//Simulation1.docx]] 
  
  where Simulation 1 before the | is the Tiddler text 
  and the information after file is the document I want to open. 
  
  When I do this (with or without the extension), I get the error: File 
  not found.  Firefox can't find the file. 
  
  Is there a way to have TiddlyWiki open a Word file directly from the 
  local folder where someone can click on the file and have it open 
  automatically (not save as)? 
  
  Thanks in advance for your help!

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[tw] Re: Problem uploading

2012-04-16 Thread sklpns


hey springcat

could be wrong but I think that in order to upload a local file
you need to use an earlier version of firefox

in my case a  portable firefox version 3.6.24

(
http://sourceforge.net/projects/portableapps/files/Mozilla%20Firefox%2C%20Portable%20Ed./Mozilla%20Firefox%2C%20Portable%20Edition%203.6.24/
)

seems to work ok with tiddlyspot.

see info on installing ff portable here

http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable

and info on using portable and normal firefox at the same time here

( 
http://allthingsmarked.com/2011/05/13/run-multiple-versions-of-firefox-at-the-same-time/
)

sklpns

ps. 1.  On my downloaded version of stories4thaaza I see an upload
button both on the backstage and the right panel
2. In my portable firefox I set all update options to off (not being
sure if the next version would work equally well with tiddlyspot
upload).
Of course this poses some security issues so one should use the
portable version cautiously

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[tw] Re: Opening Word file directly from local folder in TiddlyWiki?

2012-04-16 Thread Måns
Hi Julie


 Is there a way to have TiddlyWiki open a Word file directly from the
 local folder where someone can click on the file and have it open
 automatically (not save as)?

Eric made http://www.tiddlytools.com/#ShowLocalDirectory which is very
capable of browsing files and directories (in Windows and Linux - I
guess it will work on a Mac as well)..
When you click a file link - it will try to open it in an iframe.
It works well for images and plain textfiles - and as Skye says, some
browsers support pdf's as well...

If you want to open an application (Word for example) directly from
your TW there's a plugin for that as well (
http://www.remotely-helpful.com/TiddlyWiki/LaunchApplication.html#LaunchApplicationPlugin
), however the macro parameter needs some tweaking to open a file with
an application - and I'm no expert
You'll have to test it out yourself to find out which parameters are
neccesary...

A combination of ShowLocalDirectory  LaunchApplicationPlugin (w.
automatic recognition of mime-types would be awesome...)

Happy hacking :-)

Cheers Måns Mårtensson

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[tw] Re: Problem uploading

2012-04-16 Thread springcat
Hi sklpns,
thanks a lot for responding. the current version of the tiddly file
has the upload button intact 'cause I downloaded an older version and
copy pasted all the content from the local file, then updated it on-
line. Had earlier downloaded FF 3.6.28 the portable version and ran it
from an SB stick and could upload local file.
Thanks also for the very relevant links.

On Apr 16, 5:30 pm, sklpns skl...@gmail.com wrote:
 hey springcat

 could be wrong but I think that in order to upload a local file
 you need to use an earlier version of firefox

 in my case a  portable firefox version 3.6.24

 (http://sourceforge.net/projects/portableapps/files/Mozilla%20Firefox%...
 )

 seems to work ok with tiddlyspot.

 see info on installing ff portable here

 http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable

 and info on using portable and normal firefox at the same time here

 (http://allthingsmarked.com/2011/05/13/run-multiple-versions-of-firefo...
 )

 sklpns

 ps. 1.  On my downloaded version of stories4thaaza I see an upload
 button both on the backstage and the right panel
 2. In my portable firefox I set all update options to off (not being
 sure if the next version would work equally well with tiddlyspot
 upload).
 Of course this poses some security issues so one should use the
 portable version cautiously

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[tw] Re: NEW: LinkifyPlugin - another improved version of RedirectMacro / AutoWeaving

2012-04-16 Thread Tobias Beer

Hi Albert,

Am Montag, 16. April 2012 11:58:55 UTC+2 schrieb Albert Riedinger:


- Tomboy 2.0 / Tomboy 2.0 – Plugins / LinkifyPlugin – Test
- AutoWeavePlugin – Test
- IntelliTaggerPlugin Documentation
- zzConfig


A)
Please check the documentation again.
Linkification for all of this is currently possible via LinkifyConfig.
Try to add all of this to your LinkifyConfig:

AutoWeavePlugin|AutoWeavePlugin *|AutoWeavePlugin – *
LinkifyPlugin|LinkifyPlugin *|LinkifyPlugin – *
IntelliTaggerPlugin|IntelliTaggerPlugin Documentation| IntelliTaggerPlugin – 
*
Tomboy 2.0|Tomboy 2.0 – *
zzConfig

This might seem a lot of stuff, but then that's the idea behind it. 
Linkification patterns currently require to exactly define for which 
tiddlers they should apply.


As for zzConfig, I can't quite tell what should be wrong with it...

   - Do you have it?
   - Have you turned on linkification for all tiddlers?
   - Is it in LinkifyConfig?

When tiddelers are excluded from linkification this only means that their 
body is not linkified. However, you can sure have such a tiddler as a 
linkification target.


B)
While this might reasonably work for all tiddlers:
@@@|@@@s|@@@*|@@@ – Discussion

...I don't really see that all tiddlers need this matching pattern but 
perhaps only those tagged xyz, so I would suggest something like the 
following:
{{GROUP{
%0*|%0 – *
+tagX tagY
tidA
tidB
}}}

In other words, I would envision it like defining Linkification for groups 
of tiddlers by wrapping the corresponding config in

{{GROUP{
...
}}}


The first line after that defines the patterns to be matched.

I would suggest to use %0 as a placeholder and not @@@, since there is a 
string function called format which directly works with that, e.g.:
someString.format([replace1,replace2,replace3,...]);
...whereas replace1 would be inserted for any %0, replace2 for %1, etc...

All other lines define the tiddlers like tidA tidB to be matched or 
alternatively all tiddlers tagged +tagX or +tagY.

So in pseudo-code...
1) get all tiddlers to match as [tagged(tagX) + tagged(tagY) + tidA + tidB]
2) create formatters for all those while replacing every %0 with the actual 
tiddler names

I think that's better than to have such a rule apply to all tiddlers.

In other words, if a line in LinkifyConfig starts with a css wrapper for a 
block, then - until the closing wrapper - everything that follows is 
supposed to define a linkification group with 1 line for rules and x lines 
for tags or tids.

Cheers, Tobias.

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[tw] possibly stupid question about changing font

2012-04-16 Thread lydean.wo...@gmail.com
I'm in the middle of customizing the style sheet for my tiddlywiki. I
want just the text of the content of the tiddler to be serif, but I
can't figure out how to change it without it changing the tiddler
title, menu, tag box, etc, as well.

Any hints would be appreciated.

Thanks.

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[tw] Re: possibly stupid question about changing font

2012-04-16 Thread Eric Shulman
 want just the text of the content of the tiddler to be serif, but I
 can't figure out how to change it without it changing the tiddler
 title, menu, tag box, etc, as well.

.tiddler .viewer { font-family:serif; }

enjoy,
-e
Eric Shulman
TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios


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