Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] node.js tiddlywiki over ssl possible

[Daniel Baird]

On 25 January 2015 at 22:53, Daniel Baird  wrote:

>
> [...]Then your attack service is a bit narrower (well not exactly
> narrower.. just more battle-tested).
>


Gah, typo silly me: "surface".  Your attack SURFACE is a bit narrower etc.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Icon menus demo

[Jed Carty]

This is may be the final version of the icon menus, or something very 
similar to that. I think that all of the relevant settings are available 
and unless other people make some css classes for the menus for me to add I 
am probably finished.

You can have text entries in the menus. If you set the width of the left or 
right menus wide enough than you can have text instead of an icon.

Here is the current version:

http://ooktech.com/iconmenus/

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[tw] Editor Wishlist

[Andrew]

Soon the tech graveyard will include:DVDs, Desktop computers, the keyboard, and 
yes even the mouse. All replaced with chips, touch screen and voice 
recognition. So, imo, the most important button of them all will be UNDO. And, 
it should be near the far left in an edit toolbar because it is so valuable and 
will be the most frequently used of all the buttons.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Is it possible to make a button that creates a tiddler with multiple tags?

[Birthe C]

HI Captain Packers.
Tobias answer is a good one,

But to stay in line with the buttons you tried yourself

<$button>
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" title=<> tags="Journal [[Another tag]]"/> Button 
Text


The tm-add-tag message is handled by the Field Mangler Widget.


Birthe


On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 11:39:36 PM UTC+1, Captain Packers wrote:
>
> I can't quite get the code right to add the second "Journal" tag. I'm 
> using tags={{!!tags}} to pick up the tags of the current tiddler, but then 
> I would like to add "Journal". Here's what I've got:
>
> <$button>
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" title=< Product Development Journal of YY-0MM0DD">> tags={{!!tags}} /> Button Text
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-add-tag" $param="Journal" />
> 
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Is it possible to make a button that creates a tiddler with multiple tags?

[Tobias Beer]

Here's one way to do it...

Custom New Journal Button @ tb5 


\define set-tags() $(tags)$ Journal

<$set name="tags" value={{!!tags}}>
<$button>
<$action-sendmessage
$message="tm-new-tiddler"
title=<>
tags=<> />
<$list filter="[prefix[yes]]">
{{$:/core/images/new-journal-button}}

New Custom Journal



Best wishes, Tobias. 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Is it possible to make a button that creates a tiddler with multiple tags?

[Captain Packers]

I can't quite get the code right to add the second "Journal" tag. I'm using 
tags={{!!tags}} to pick up the tags of the current tiddler, but then I 
would like to add "Journal". Here's what I've got:

<$button>
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" title=<> tags={{!!tags}} /> Button Text
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-add-tag" $param="Journal" />


On Thursday, December 18, 2014 at 2:23:20 PM UTC-5, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> If you use multiple action-sendmessage widgets that each use the 
> tm-add-tag message you can add as many tags as you want. Since the 
> implementation of the action widgets the core can do everything that the 
> newtiddler widget does. You could also use a template that has the desired 
> tags and the tm-new-tiddler message. 

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[tw] Re: Editor Wishlist

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Jed,

I'd add the link to your editor project to the first post in this thread.
 

> So far, everything I've done on my editor project has been based on what I 
> thought needed to be done or on the Bookmarklet and Keyboard Snippet work. 
> To gain a sense of what the community thinks would be important or 
> desirable, I would like folks to give me a wishlist of editor features. 
>

Personally, I find it a bit clumsy to use.
I'd much rather use / learn wikitext...
and would recommend everyone to do so
and go for a markup reference accesible in edit mode.

Of course, edit-mode will do much better if there was way more than 
cancel-close-delete.
You will surely find mountains of inspiration here:
http://www.tiddlytools.com/#QuickEditPackage

What changes would you like to see incorporated into the editor?
>

Things that actually help with complicated things, for example
an easy way to define and then embed snippets, filters, macros, templates...

Of the things I did in my editor project, which are the most helpful and 
> which are the least helpful?
>

I'd use clean svg icons from any of those neat icon fonts: More Awesome 


What would you suggest I do differently?
>

When markup is applied, the selection needs to remain active and the editor 
needs to keep focus.

Would you use Search and Replace if it were available?
>

That would indeed be something quite valuable.

A tiddler splitter?
>

I think it's very easy to cut some text and hit +.

Something to change text or highlight colors?
>

Rather: being able to define and then select and insert custom css 
(classes) from a preview list.

For example, while a true WYSIWYG editor would be nice, it is well beyond 
> my ability as a programmer.
>

Maybe it would be neat to be able to mix WYSIWYG with wiki markup.
I believe there's a reason it's not happened for a few years now.

WYSIWYG creates bloated html, hence bloated TiddlyWikis.
You don't want to ever look at the actual, underlying tiddler.

That's why a preview that shows the currently edited text
next to the line you're editing would be a much better way
of seeing what you're doing than WYSIWYG.

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: Editor Wishlist

[RichShumaker]

Speaking to Mario's point of adding keyboard shortcuts I found a mousetrap 
implementation  that you might want to use 
to make your keyboard shortcuts easier.
The link provided is to welford(James W. Anderson) main page and his plug 
in can be dragged and dropped to your TW5.

Mousetrap  is a simple library for handling 
keyboard shortcuts in Javascript.

Thanks for creating your Editor as I think it is really helpful for every 
user level of experience.

Rich Shumaker

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[tw] Re: Editor Prototype Mk II

[RichShumaker]

>
> Totally unrelated I find myself using the Community Search 
>>  
>> a lot these days and it has been very helpful.
>
>
> I've added Community Search to my personal version of the Editor Help 
> though it isn't part of the uploaded version at this time in part because I 
> wasn't sure you would allow that. You might have traffic limitations on 
> your server or there may be other limitations that would argue against a 
> wider distribution.  I think I would prefer linking to a tiddler with just 
> the search and a brief explanation rather than your Getting Started page. 
> It is your site and I will defer to your decision on that.
>  
>

I wish I could claim or take credit for Community Search(it's awesome), 
that was Erwan More and he has his code on Github 

I think it would be cool just to have a community search box, like the 
normal search box and advanced search box.
So I added that as an issue to Erwan's Github and I will try to make it in 
the next few days myself by hacking the code.

Erwan has not requested we limit usage but he should definitely speak for 
himself if he sees this.
For all of my sites please find ways to promote them, here is my TiddlyWiki 
of TiddlyWiki's  just keep in mind I also 
link to other peoples TW like Empty and Community Search.

Rich Shumaker

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Re: [tw] Re: Simple Javascript insertion in tiddlers (text/vnd.tiddlywiki)

[Tobias Beer]

While having no plans of using this (yet),
however, seeing how that cat is out of the box anyhow,
here's a single *script* macro to toggle 

Re: [tw] Re: Simple Javascript insertion in tiddlers (text/vnd.tiddlywiki)

[Tobias Beer]

Hi BJ,

did you test this or is it a hypothetical?

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: Editor Wishlist

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

>
> Search and replace for multiple tiddlers is a different topic and imo a 
> different plugin.
>

 Most definitely and, from my standpoint, a quantum leap more difficult 
plugin.

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Re: [tw] Re: Simple Javascript insertion in tiddlers (text/vnd.tiddlywiki)

[BJ]

you are looking for

exports.htmlUnsafeElements = "script".split(",");

but I think it would be better to include a couple of macros to switch 
scripting on and off:

create a tiddler (any name will do) and set the type to "application/json"
add field "module-type" with value "macro"

and insert in it

(function(){

/*jslint node: true, browser: true */
/*global $tw: false */
"use strict";

/*
Information about this macro
*/

exports.name = "enablescript";

exports.params = [
];

/*
Run the macro
*/
exports.run = function() {
$tw.config.htmlUnsafeElements = "";
return "";
};
})();



then another tiddler with the type to "application/json"
add field "module-type" with value "macro"

(function(){
/*jslint node: true, browser: true */
/*global $tw: false */

/*
Information about this macro
returns value of key in a data json tiddler
note that macros are not connected with the refresh mechanism -use with caution.
*/
exports.name = "disablescript";
exports.params = [

];

/*
Run the macro
*/
exports.run = function() {
$tw.config.htmlUnsafeElements = "script".split(",");
return "";
}
})();



then use in a tiddler like this

<>

alert("Hooray");

<>

alert("Hooray2");


cheers

BJ
On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 11:18:18 AM UTC-6, Jimmy Armand wrote:
>
> Sorry but I'm not sure to understand what you mean. Is it that there's a 
> parameter named script that will help me do what I want? Because in the 
> config.js, there's no "script" configuration to be found.
>
> On Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:12:02 UTC-5, Tobias Beer wrote:
>>
>> It's not hard to find. If you search the source tree for "script" 
>>> (including quotes) you'll see this in *config.js*...
>>>
>>
>> Thanks for the pointers.
>>
>

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[tw] Re: Editor Wishlist

[Jed Carty]

Things specific to tiddlywiki/wikitext:

Adding a button that lets you put a selected block of text into a 
monospaced code block would be nice.
An option to create a new tiddler that contains selected text from the 
current tiddler would be nice, particularly for copying blocks of text from 
other sources into tiddlywiki so it can be indexed well.

The most useful things from text editors I generally use are:

Search and replace
Highlight all occurrences of a selected word
highlight/underline matching quotes, braces, parentheses, etc.

The multiple select and editing in multiple places like in sublime text 
would be awesome

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[tw] Re: Editor Wishlist

[PMario]

On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 6:57:09 PM UTC+1, Stephen Kimmel wrote:
>
> So far, everything I've done on my editor project has been based on what I 
> thought needed to be done or on the Bookmarklet and Keyboard Snippet work. 
> To gain a sense of what the community thinks would be important or 
> desirable, I would like folks to give me a wishlist of editor features. 
>

You did a nice project with you editor add on. ... I think you should ask 
for battle testing to stabilize it. 

I wouldn't add any keyboard shortcut stuff, because this already _is_ and 
can be a different plugin. So the editor can be used without the shortcuts 
and vice versa.

Search and replace may be nice, but introduces more complexity and UI to 
the plugin. IMO most browsers have very good built in search and 
highlighting tools. So imo s&r for a single tiddler is not really needed. 
... Search and replace for multiple tiddlers is a different topic and imo a 
different plugin.

have fun!
mario

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[tw] Editor Wishlist

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

So far, everything I've done on my editor project has been based on what I 
thought needed to be done or on the Bookmarklet and Keyboard Snippet work. 
To gain a sense of what the community thinks would be important or 
desirable, I would like folks to give me a wishlist of editor features. 

What changes would you like to see incorporated into the editor? Of the 
things I did in my editor project, which are the most helpful and which are 
the least helpful? What would you suggest I do differently? Would you use 
Search and Replace if it were available? A tiddler splitter? Something to 
change text or highlight colors?

I can't promise to address everything anyone suggests. For example, while a 
true WYSIWYG editor would be nice, it is well beyond my ability as a 
programmer. Go ahead and suggest it if you want but be aware that it won't 
happen soon. 

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Re: [tw] Re: Simple Javascript insertion in tiddlers (text/vnd.tiddlywiki)

[Jimmy Armand]

Sorry but I'm not sure to understand what you mean. Is it that there's a 
parameter named script that will help me do what I want? Because in the 
config.js, there's no "script" configuration to be found.

On Wednesday, 28 January 2015 19:12:02 UTC-5, Tobias Beer wrote:
>
> It's not hard to find. If you search the source tree for "script" 
>> (including quotes) you'll see this in *config.js*...
>>
>
> Thanks for the pointers.
>

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Re: [tw] Re: Simple Javascript insertion in tiddlers (text/vnd.tiddlywiki)

[Jimmy Armand]

That would be great. Thanks

On Wednesday, 28 January 2015 11:25:39 UTC-5, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> TiddlyWiki is designed to block JavaScript in wiki text content to make 
> sure that it is safe to share wiki text content. It's necessary so that we 
> can explore multi-user server configurations and federation. If the act of 
> viewing content authored by someone else causes executable JS code to run 
> then it becomes possible for a malicious actor to, for example, craft a 
> message that actually contains code to steal or delete your personal 
> information.
>
> So, in TW5, there is a strict distinction between wiki text tiddlers 
> (text/vnd.tiddlywiki) and JavaScript module tiddlers (type text/javascript, 
> and with a module-type field). That allows us to filter content from other 
> sources to ensure that we don't allow executable code.
>
> Obviously, these aren't concerns for many users who are working privately. 
> We can serve their needs with a plugin that explicitly enables inline 
> JavaScript, but it's not something that will ever be supported directly by 
> the core.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Jimmy Armand  > wrote:
>
>> Yeah but I think that this method is not really nice since I want to put 
>> the javascript in a tiddler (text/vnd.tiddlywiki)
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, 28 January 2015 06:44:47 UTC-5, Stephan Hradek wrote:
>>>
>>> Go to tiddlywiki.com
>>>
>>> Create a New Tiddler
>>>
>>> Paste this into the tiddler:
>>>
>>> 
>>> alert("Hooray");
>>> 
>>>
>>> Set the type to "text/html"
>>>
>>> Finish editing
>>>
>>> Hooray!
>>>
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[tw] Re: issue running in ubuntu 14.04

[Jeremiah Johnson]

Yes it is, and i can't get the windows version of the app running either. 
 No clue what the error is there i am not as savvy on windows.

(this is the same person as the other posts just have two profiles)

On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 1:40:33 AM UTC-7, Tobias Beer wrote:
>
> Is this about TiddlyDesktop?
>
> Best wishes, Tobias.
>

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[tw] Re: Can I have ribbon on a specific tiddler?

[Tobias Beer]

>
> I mean when you have MANY of those tiddlers opened. Let's say, 20. Does 
> that mean 20 style-sheet tags or maybe there is some kind of mechanism that 
> avoids that? 
>

It means that. I simply packaged it into one template so as to not have two 
spots. But I will mention in the tiddler that it is advisable to actually 
put all styles into a proper StyleSheet.

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: Can I have ribbon on a specific tiddler?

[Danielo Rodríguez]

El jueves, 29 de enero de 2015, 14:43:25 (UTC+1), Tobias Beer escribió:
>
> Great! I like that the template is self contained, including the styles. 
>> But, is this not a performance problem? I mean, for every opened tiddler 
>> with the appropriate tag, you will have a style tag included. Anyone have 
>> any idea about this?
>>
>
> As far as I can see, the style tag only exists so long as one of the 
> tiddlers having it is open / transcluded.
>

That is what I expected.
 

> When none is open, the styles are gone. What's inefficient about it is 
> that they are duplicated.
>

I mean when you have MANY of those tiddlers opened. Let's say, 20. Does 
that mean 20 style-sheet tags or maybe there is some kind of mechanism that 
avoids that? 

 

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 rules to import files based on its extension.

[Danielo Rodríguez]

El jueves, 29 de enero de 2015, 13:23:27 (UTC+1), Tobias Beer escribió:
>
> If you add all files that you find, perhaps you get the opposite problem 
> that now you need to blacklist those that you don't, e.g. ".tidtignore" ;-)
>
> Best wishes, Tobias.
>


:)

Not actually. My idea was to "index" only those files that has a rule 
associated. That rules should be rules on how to include that file in the 
tiddlywiki.files file. Tags, type, pre and post... so you can add some 
extra values. Fortunately this is something already available on the core, 
so I only need to include some wrapper functions.

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[tw] Re: Editor Prototype Mk II

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

>
> Totally unrelated I find myself using the Community Search 
>  
> a lot these days and it has been very helpful.


I've added Community Search to my personal version of the Editor Help 
though it isn't part of the uploaded version at this time in part because I 
wasn't sure you would allow that. You might have traffic limitations on 
your server or there may be other limitations that would argue against a 
wider distribution.  I think I would prefer linking to a tiddler with just 
the search and a brief explanation rather than your Getting Started page. 
It is your site and I will defer to your decision on that.
 

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[tw] Re: Editor Prototype Mk II

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

>
> The icons should be SVGs. The PNGs don't scale well with a browser zooming 
> factor.
>

I have made that change. There are a couple I'm not thrilled with how a 
couple of them look 

If you convert heading "  imo it should be
> !! heading 2 ... see the space. It has much better readability in edit 
> mode.
>

I agree and made that change to all the .. conversions as well.
 

> There are some problems with activate formatting and selected text. ... I 
> think I'll create a video for those, since they are complicated to explain 
> in text only.
>

I'll be interested in seeing what you come up with. I have noticed that the 
double click select gets both the word and the space afterwards. 

Thanks for the suggestions. 

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[tw] Re: Can I have ribbon on a specific tiddler?

[Tobias Beer]

>
> Great! I like that the template is self contained, including the styles. 
> But, is this not a performance problem? I mean, for every opened tiddler 
> with the appropriate tag, you will have a style tag included. Anyone have 
> any idea about this?
>

As far as I can see, the style tag only exists so long as one of the 
tiddlers having it is open / transcluded.
When none is open, the styles are gone. What's inefficient about it is that 
they are duplicated.

Best wishes, Tobias. 

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 rules to import files based on its extension.

[Tobias Beer]

If you add all files that you find, perhaps you get the opposite problem 
that now you need to blacklist those that you don't, e.g. ".tidtignore" ;-)

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[tw] Re: Can I have ribbon on a specific tiddler?

[Danielo Rodríguez]

 Hello Tobías

>
> Tiddler Ribbon @ tb5 
>
> However, there are the above-mentioned limitations (red).
>
>
Great! I like that the template is self contained, including the styles. 
But, is this not a performance problem? I mean, for every opened tiddler 
with the appropriate tag, you will have a style tag included. Anyone have 
any idea about this?

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Re: [tw] Re: Theme tweaks for TableOfContentsMacro

[Shash]

Thanks Jeremy!

BTW if I need to extend the code for tabbed table of contents in my 
personal wiki, where can I find it. Thanks!

Shash

On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 9:48:48 PM UTC+5:30, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Shash
>
> You could try something like this. In a stylesheet tiddler:
>
> .my-table-of-contents .tc-table-of-contents {
> background: red;
> }
>
> .my-table-of-contents .tc-tabbed-table-of-contents .tc-table-of-contents 
> .toc-item > a {
> border-color: green;
> }
>
> Then wrap the toc with a DIV like this:
>
> 
> <$macrocall $name="toc-tabbed-internal-nav" tag="TableOfContents" 
> selectedTiddler="$:/temp/toc/selectedTiddler" unselectedText="Select a 
> topic in the table of contents. Click the arrow to expand a topic." 
> missingText="Missing tiddler."/>
> 
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Jed Carty  > wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 at 12:00:36 PM UTC-7, Shash wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> >
>> > I am trying to use the Tabbed version of TableOfContentsMacro. I wish 
>> to change the background of the tabs.. Is there a easy way to achieve this 
>> with stylesheets.
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> > Shash
>>
>> I have looked at this a little and didn't see an obvious solution, I will 
>> hopefully have time to look again soon. The macros are defined in the 
>> tiddler $:/core/macros/toc if you want to try looking at modifying them
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Re: [tw] Some theme changes

[Shash]

I got the answer for this and hence had deleted the same.

Thanks for your support!!
Shash

On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 6:39:45 PM UTC+5:30, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Shash
>  
>
>>
>> I could achieve what I really wanted but the problem now is Seamless 
>> theme doesn't seem to work. 
>>
>
> Can you show us what's going wrong?
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>  
>
>>
>> Is there any way to get the seamless theme into my style sheet and get it 
>> to work. The only thing i want to remove is the box around the tiddler. Any 
>> help is really appreciated. 
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Shash
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[tw] Re: Can I have ribbon on a specific tiddler?

[Tobias Beer]

>
> I am not quite sure how to do that.  Would you mind to point it out in 
> dummies way?  Thanks.
>

Oh, If forgot to give you that link...

Tiddler Ribbon @ tb5 

However, there are the above-mentioned limitations (red).

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[tw] Re: issue running in ubuntu 14.04

[Tobias Beer]

Is this about TiddlyDesktop?

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Action Increment widget

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Jed,

It is a bit specific in what it does.
However, simple things often are very useful.

One thing I noticed,
your documentation tiddler doesn't say how to get it.

Perhaps an alternative approach is assigning macro output to variables...

   - mathmacros  (discussion 
   )
   - calc @ tb5  (inspired by the above, a 
   bit more generalized, potentially extensibe)

Best wishes, Tobias.

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