[tw] Re: [TW5] Another way to make multiple tag-like fields

[cmari]

Oddly, it seems it is not possible to add field values using the dropdown 
menu in Chrome. Clicking a "tag" pill on the dropdown "tag name" list 
causes navigation away to the "tag" (whether it exists as a tiddler or 
not), rather than populating the field. Things work as expected in Firefox.
cmari

On Wednesday, May 25, 2016 at 2:09:25 AM UTC-7, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> This now has a readme in the plugin and the macro tiddler has 
> documentation for the macros. There is also a much shorter and easier to 
> understand demo. Everything is still here 
> .
>
> You should be able to use this as an alternative to the normal tags field 
> in every way except I don't have an exact alternative for !tag[foo] for the 
> other fields. You can do the equivalent of tag[foo] by 
> [foo]listed[fieldname] so it is only the negation part that is missing.
>

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] REQUEST. Could we please get a TWC theme?

[Danielo Rodríguez]

Never say hat! 

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] REQUEST. Could we please get a TWC theme?

[Danielo Rodríguez]

And never say that you are writing too many plugins neither! 

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Re: [tw] Re: Double Transclusion?

[Ákos Szederjei]

Yep, that is the usual service of the folks around here! :)

Ákos

On 5/29/2016 12:05 AM, 'Alexander Eckert' via TiddlyWiki wrote:
> Wow, what a fast answer
> 
> Thank you BJ & Eric, it works =)
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Alex

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[tw] Re: Double Transclusion?

['Alexander Eckert' via TiddlyWiki]

Wow, what a fast answer 

Thank you BJ & Eric, it works =)

Kind regards

Alex

Am Samstag, 28. Mai 2016 23:29:09 UTC+2 schrieb Eric Shulman:
>
> On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 2:06:19 PM UTC-7, Alexander Eckert wrote:
>>
>> First Tiddler got field "a" with value "x"
>> Second Tiddler got field "b" with value "First Tiddler"
>> Now I want to get the value x in the second tiddler
>>
> ... 
>
>> Is there a way to double transclude with field values, where a field 
>> value contains the name of the transcluded Tiddler?
>>
>
> There are several ways to do this, with varying complexity.  One easy way 
> is to wrap the transclusion inside a <$tiddler> widget, like this:
>
> from inside SecondTiddler:
> <$tiddler tiddler={{!!b}}>{{!!a}}>
>
> enjoy,
> -e
> Eric Shulman
> TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
> InsideTiddlyWiki: The Missing Manuals
>

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[tw] Re: Double Transclusion?

[Eric Shulman]

On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 2:06:19 PM UTC-7, Alexander Eckert wrote:
>
> First Tiddler got field "a" with value "x"
> Second Tiddler got field "b" with value "First Tiddler"
> Now I want to get the value x in the second tiddler
>
... 

> Is there a way to double transclude with field values, where a field value 
> contains the name of the transcluded Tiddler?
>

There are several ways to do this, with varying complexity.  One easy way 
is to wrap the transclusion inside a <$tiddler> widget, like this:

from inside SecondTiddler:
<$tiddler tiddler={{!!b}}>{{!!a}}>

enjoy,
-e
Eric Shulman
TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
InsideTiddlyWiki: The Missing Manuals

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[tw] Re: Double Transclusion?

[BJ]

HI Alex,
one way is 

<$tiddler tiddler={{!!b}}>
{{!!a}}


all the best
BJ

On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 10:06:19 PM UTC+1, Alexander Eckert wrote:
>
> Thanks to Jed Carty my first question was answered realy quick. And I 
> could continue my work.
>
> Now I got a new problem: I'm trying to double transclude text. Let me 
> explain:
>
> First Tiddler got field "a" with value "x"
> Second Tiddler got field "b" with value "First Tiddler"
>
> Now I want to get the value x in the second tiddler. I tried
>
> {{!!b!!a}} 
>
> but it does not work.
>
> Afterwards I tried
>
> <$set name="test" value={{!!b}}>
> {{<>!!a}}
> 
>
> But this doesn't work either. Is there a way to double transclude with 
> field values, where a field value contains the name of the transcluded 
> Tiddler?
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Alex
>

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[tw] Double Transclusion?

['Alexander Eckert' via TiddlyWiki]

Thanks to Jed Carty my first question was answered realy quick. And I could 
continue my work.

Now I got a new problem: I'm trying to double transclude text. Let me 
explain:

First Tiddler got field "a" with value "x"
Second Tiddler got field "b" with value "First Tiddler"

Now I want to get the value x in the second tiddler. I tried

{{!!b!!a}} 

but it does not work.

Afterwards I tried

<$set name="test" value={{!!b}}>
{{<>!!a}}


But this doesn't work either. Is there a way to double transclude with 
field values, where a field value contains the name of the transcluded 
Tiddler?

Kind regards,

Alex

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 Alternatives for TWClassic-Plugins : OpenStory/SaveStory

[Jan]

Dear Mark,
I just pinned your StorySaver V3 from http://mashive.tiddlyspot.com/ to 
my sidebar and realized a bug:
The button behind the dropdownmenu always opens the story that was saved 
last, not the one chosen...
I didn't notive this at first becaus this is the version in which you 
implemented the button on top of the list in the story-tiddler which 
works very fine...
It woult be suberbe if you fixed this and perhaps you could add a 
check/warning behind the Save-Snapshot-button like this one:


\define check-title()
<$list filter="[all[current]get[draft.title]is[tiddler]]">This Tiddler 
already exists, you're going to overwrite it...View it first? 
><$link><$view field="title"/>


\end

best wishes
Jan


Am 04.05.2016 um 20:28 schrieb 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki:

Hah! I bet this isn't what you really wanted ;-)

You can drag-n-drop the EXPERIMENTAL plugin from 
http://mashive.tiddlyspot.com/.


The list is now stored in field "story". The view template includes a 
button to open everything in a snapshot. Probably need to tweak that 
eventually.


Have fun,
Mark

On Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at 8:35:05 AM UTC-7, Jan wrote:

Hello Mark,
now I had the time to try out both attemps. They both work very
good. Many thanks for this.
Do you want to make them accessible for the community by turning
them into a plugin, I think this could be useful for some of us?

I like your first solution (V3) better, I think it could even be
an advantage that the tiddlers are stored in a list-field.
-Would it be possible to give this List-field a custom name for
example "story"?
-Would it be possible to implement a button to open the story in
the viewTemplate so that it appears below the List of tiddlers?

and I encountered another issue:
Is it possible to rearrange the tiddlers by drag and drop like it
was with the rearrangeTiddlersPugin in TiddlyTools?
I think it might be better to post this as a new question.

Cheerio and Thanks
Jan

Am 02.05.2016 um 23:12 schrieb 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki:

The attached version will apply the excludeStory tiddlers
before saving the story in the list.

Mark

On Monday, May 2, 2016 at 1:20:06 PM UTC-7, Jan wrote:

Hi Mark,
Thanks for the .json
The view-template works fine, it creates a neat row and
tiddlers tagged with excludeStory are not shown, but they
are saved in the list and are opened when you load the story.
For my purpose would be best to exclude them at once...
I understand that the Problem is in opening tiddlers
contained in the textfield if they are not properly
aligned. In TWC the tiddlytools StorySaverPlugin managed
this...http://www.tiddlytools.com/#StorySaverPlugin

Yours Jan


 Weitergeleitete Nachricht 
Betreff:Re: [tw] Re: TW5 Alternatives for
TWClassic-Plugins : OpenStory/SaveStory
Datum:  Mon, 2 May 2016 10:08:18 -0700 (PDT)
Von:'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki 
Antwort an: tiddl...@googlegroups.com
An: TiddlyWiki 



Here's a json with the updated save/show routines and with
the suggested view template. Be sure to back up before
trying.

I can imagine several ways in which this might not work as
you wanted, so you will need to specify how it is not
working properly.

It might be possible to create a wikified list with a
javascript macro. But I'm thinking that you want your
users to edit that list in the text editor. So that would
take a second javascript macro to parse the human readable
list back into the kind of lists used to save stories.
Have to think about that.

Good luck,
Mark

In general, I think TWC was favorable in many ways to TW5.
On Monday, May 2, 2016 at 5:34:37 AM UTC-7, Jan wrote:

Hello Mark,
Thanks for your help and sorry for not answering more
quickly.
I did not know ther was so much difference between TWC
and TW5.
I´ll have to do a lot of learning if i really change.
I could not get your solution to work properly.

Am 30.04.2016 um 05:44 schrieb 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki:

I don't think there is a "split" operator -- at
least it's not mentioned in the docs.

That's a plugin by Tobias$:/plugins/tobibeer/split




And I don't think you ca

Re: [tw] Planning a TiddlyWiki Meetup in 2016

[Danielo Rodríguez]

Thank you for the answer Jeremy. 

What should I do meanwhile? Book the flights? Arrange an hotel room? 

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[tw] Re: tw5 for organizing bookmarks, link collection

[Jed Carty]

You can probably use css to change the tag size based on the number of 
tiddlers. You may need a javascript macro or widget for it though. I think 
someone (Tobias?) made one.

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[tw] Re: tw5 for organizing bookmarks, link collection

[TiddlyWiker]

On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 8:42:59 PM UTC+2, Hans Maulwurf wrote:
>
> Wow, awesome. Thanks guys, it was David's project. The "tagcloud" i mean 
> was this one 
> http://www.giffmex.org/experiments/davesbookmarks.html#Helpful%20bookmarks
>
> @David: thanks :)
>
> Maybe the naming "tag cloud" was a bit unduly. TiddlyWiker, when i use ur 
> code, is it right, that there is the number next to the tagname? Would be 
> awesome if someone has a real tag cloud with various sizes of the tag-names 
> depending on the count of the tag.
>


Dear Hans,

Since I have zero coding skills all I can do is cut and paste what code 
snippets I
find. Thanks for the cloud example in Davids project, I will add it to  my 
collection.

Yes, the numbers in my example refer to the number of tiddlers with that 
particular tag.
Your example without numbers is also interesting.  But I know what you are 
referring
to with the variable sized tag-names.  I am sure I have seen it somewhere 
in a tiddly wiki. but where? Could it be someone with the right skills 
could adapt it for tiddlywiki if it hasn't already
been done?


Regards,

TiddlyWiker

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Re: [tw] Update Material Design for latest TW5

[Hans Maulwurf]

thanks, looks great to me :)

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[tw] Re: tw5 for organizing bookmarks, link collection

[Hans Maulwurf]

Wow, awesome. Thanks guys, it was David's project. The "tagcloud" i mean 
was this 
one http://www.giffmex.org/experiments/davesbookmarks.html#Helpful%20bookmarks

@David: thanks :)

Maybe the naming "tag cloud" was a bit unduly. TiddlyWiker, when i use ur 
code, is it right, that there is the number next to the tagname? Would be 
awesome if someone has a real tag cloud with various sizes of the tag-names 
depending on the count of the tag.

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[tw] Re: tw5 for organizing bookmarks, link collection

[TiddlyWiker]

If you can use a simple tag cloud this works for me
---

.cloud { margin-right: 7px; }
.cloud .tc-tag-list-item { margin-right: 0; }

<$list filter="[tags[]!is[system]sort[title]]">

<$transclude tiddler="$:/core/ui/TagTemplate"/>
<$count filter="[all[current]tagging[]]"/>




Regards,

TiddlyWiker


On Saturday, May 28, 2016 at 4:44:30 PM UTC+2, Hans Maulwurf wrote:
>
> Hey,
>
> sorry for spaming, but a few weeks ago i found a tw5 somewhere that was 
> prepared for managing bookmarks. at the first page there was kind of a tag 
> cloud. I already looked my browser history up and down, but i couldn't find 
> it :/ maybe someone knows what i mean and could post a link here?
>
> thanks for ur help guys
>

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[tw] Re: tw5 for organizing bookmarks, link collection

[Shannon Briggs]

A cloud like this? http://tiddlymap.org/

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>
> Hey,
>
> sorry for spaming, but a few weeks ago i found a tw5 somewhere that was 
> prepared for managing bookmarks. at the first page there was kind of a tag 
> cloud. I already looked my browser history up and down, but i couldn't find 
> it :/ maybe someone knows what i mean and could post a link here?
>
> thanks for ur help guys
>

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[tw] Re: tw5 for organizing bookmarks, link collection

[David Gifford]

Hi

I think you might be thinking of this old project of mine

http://giffmex.org/experiments/tidmarks.html

Dave

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> Hey,
>
> sorry for spaming, but a few weeks ago i found a tw5 somewhere that was 
> prepared for managing bookmarks. at the first page there was kind of a tag 
> cloud. I already looked my browser history up and down, but i couldn't find 
> it :/ maybe someone knows what i mean and could post a link here?
>
> thanks for ur help guys
>

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[tw] Re: tw5 for organizing bookmarks, link collection

[Jed Carty]

I am very behind on things that have been made. I don't know of any that 
have a tag cloud. I did make a bookmarks plugin you can see it here 

.

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[tw] Re: [TW5]Possible Bug in Field Editing

[Shannon Briggs]

That answers all my questions. Thank you very much. :-)

On Saturday, 28 May 2016 11:34:52 UTC-4, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> This is a known bug. It is because of how the the ids are made for the 
> text fields that store the temporary name and value data. This will 
> eventually get fixed but I think it has a pretty low priority for now.
>
> Generally opening an issue on github works better for bugs, but both 
> places are fine. (https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues)
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[tw] Re: [TW5]Possible Bug in Field Editing

[Jed Carty]

This is a known bug. It is because of how the the ids are made for the text 
fields that store the temporary name and value data. This will eventually 
get fixed but I think it has a pretty low priority for now.

Generally opening an issue on github works better for bugs, but both places 
are fine. (https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues)

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[tw] Re: [TW5]Possible Bug in Field Editing

[Shannon Briggs]

Visual because I'm not sure my text was clear.






On Saturday, 28 May 2016 10:52:38 UTC-4, Shannon Briggs wrote:

> Hi guys, I'm supper new but I don't see this addressed anywhere yet.
>
> In TW5 I've found that if I have more than one tiddler in edit mode at the 
> same time, editing a user defined field in one, simultaneously edits it in 
> the other(s) as well.
>
> Is this intentional or is it a bug?  If it's a bug, how would I go about 
> reporting it to the dev. team?
>
> Thanks for your help.
>

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[tw] Possible Bug in Field Editing

[Shannon Briggs]

Hi guys, I'm supper new but I don't see this addressed anywhere yet.

In TW5 I've found that if I have more than one tiddler in edit mode at the 
same time, editing a user defined field in one, simultaneously edits it in 
the other(s) as well.

Is this intentional or is it a bug?  If it's a bug, how would I go about 
reporting it to the dev. team?

Thanks for your help.

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[tw] tw5 for organizing bookmarks, link collection

[Hans Maulwurf]

Hey,

sorry for spaming, but a few weeks ago i found a tw5 somewhere that was 
prepared for managing bookmarks. at the first page there was kind of a tag 
cloud. I already looked my browser history up and down, but i couldn't find 
it :/ maybe someone knows what i mean and could post a link here?

thanks for ur help guys

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Creating a ViewTemplate to show some text above the content

['Alexander Eckert' via TiddlyWiki]

Thank you very much. This worked for me. I split up my ViewTemplate in 
"before" and "after" and it worked =)

Nice, thanks.



Am Samstag, 28. Mai 2016 09:35:05 UTC+2 schrieb Jed Carty:
>
> To do this you set where in the main view template you want your template 
> to appear. The normal tiddler view template is made up of a few separate 
> parts that are displayed using a list widget. 
> So to change the position or your viewtemplate in the order you can create 
> a field called 'list-after' and put the part you want your template listed 
> after in that field. The options are:
>
> $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/body
> $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/subtitle
> $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/tags
> $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/title
>
> You will probably want to use $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/tags. 
>

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Re: [tw] Planning a TiddlyWiki Meetup in 2016

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Danielo

Yes, this is still planned. We need to finalise the arrangements over the next 
week or so, when I'm back from vacation,

Best wishes

Jeremy

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> On 28 May 2016, at 04:42, Danielo Rodríguez  wrote:
> 
> Hey guys,
> 
> I would like to know what is happening about this. Whas it seroius? Is still 
> planned? Same dates?
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] REQUEST. Could we please get a TWC theme?

[BJ]

oops! maybe I am writing too many plugins!

On Friday, May 27, 2016 at 11:41:30 PM UTC+1, Mat wrote:
>
> BJ, isn't your StoryTopTabs  
> equivalent to tiddlersbar?
>
> <:-)

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Re: [tw] Planning a TiddlyWiki Meetup in 2016

[Danielo Rodríguez]

Hey guys,

I would like to know what is happening about this. Whas it seroius? Is 
still planned? Same dates?

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] REQUEST. Could we please get a TWC theme?

[Danielo Rodríguez]

El sábado, 28 de mayo de 2016, 0:41:30 (UTC+2), Mat escribió:
>
> BJ, isn't your StoryTopTabs  
> equivalent to tiddlersbar?
>
> <:-)


Seriously? I can't belive this is happening to me!! After so much time 
using tiddlywiki and lying around this forum I'm still finding awesome 
plugins I didn't heard about!!! The worst thing is that it does not sound 
like anything new (not the plugin nor the situation)

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Creating a ViewTemplate to show some text above the content

[Jed Carty]

To do this you set where in the main view template you want your template 
to appear. The normal tiddler view template is made up of a few separate 
parts that are displayed using a list widget. 
So to change the position or your viewtemplate in the order you can create 
a field called 'list-after' and put the part you want your template listed 
after in that field. The options are:

$:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/body
$:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/subtitle
$:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/tags
$:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/title

You will probably want to use $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/tags. 

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