[tw] Re: Listfilder for backlinks for two titles?

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

How many tiddlers are we talking about here? Have you tried Jed's code to 
see how long it takes?

There must be an internal JS function that turns filters into arrays of 
titles. With that bit of knowledge, it should be possible to make a 
javascript macro that takes two filters and returns the intersection 
without inefficiently running a loop inside of another. That is, the 
processing factor will be *n+m* rather than *n*m*.

Anyone have pointers to such a function?

If not, there might be another way that's a little more convoluted to set 
up.

Mark



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[tw] Re: Exporting a list of tiddlers

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

You can use a field like "exportme" with the value "yes" to select ones you 
want to export. Then use a configuration tiddler like:

$:/config/EditTemplateFields/Visibility/exportme


with value "hide" to hide the field from the average user.


You can write a <$list> with buttons that will let you quickly select items 
you want to mark. If you can't I'm sure someone here less sleepy than me 
can ;-) 


Mark


On Saturday, July 2, 2016 at 6:35:08 PM UTC-7, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
>
> Thank You for taking the time to investigate further :)
>
> Your aforementioned solution will be more than satisfactory for my needs 
> until such time as Jeremy or one of the other "Guru's" comes along and 
> makes a ridiculously simple fix for the problem.
>
> I took a cursory look at the javascript you linked to, but really can't do 
> anything with it.  I can handle (most) HTML, (some) CSS, but anything 
> higher than that and I'm just a script-kiddie, making niggling changes here 
> and there.
>
> I'm off now to tackle yet another problem: Flexbox divs in TiddlyWiki! 
> (wish me luck :-P )
>
> --Zaphod
>
>
> On Saturday, July 2, 2016 at 8:29:06 PM UTC-4, PMario wrote:
>>
>> On Friday, July 1, 2016 at 12:59:29 AM UTC+2, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
>>>
>>> Thank You so much, Mario - That solution does indeed do the trick :)
>>>
>>> It is a bit cumbersome, but I don't mind - I can simply copy & paste the 
>>> titles into a text file (or dummy tiddler) as I create each tiddler, then 
>>> format and copy the whole statement into the Advanced Search box when ready 
>>> to export my 'update' :)
>>>
>>> The titles of the tiddlers (in my case) need to be enclosed in single 
>>> quotes, as nearly all of them will include spaces (most will be movie 
>>> titles, eg: 'Treasure Island (1972-G)' but that's a piddling thing.
>>>
>>> --Zaphod
>>>
>>
>> use this: [['Treasure Island (1972-G)']]
>>
>> see: 
>> http://tiddlywiki.com/#WikiText:WikiText%20%5B%5BLinking%20in%20WikiText%5D%5D
>>
>> --
>>
>> I did have a closer look. ... A generic solution is a bit more 
>> complicated, as I thought. 
>>
>> It would be possible to change the jsontiddlers.js macro, but we would 
>> need to find a way to "temporarily" mark tiddlers for export, in a *nice 
>> and generic way*. 
>> But I don't have an easy to implement idea atm. .. There may be a 
>> mechanism, that is similar to the import dialog, but for export. ... 
>>
>> Just as an info: responsible tiddlers: 
>> http://tiddlywiki.com/#%24%3A%2Fcore%2Fmodules%2Fmacros%2Fjsontiddlers.js:%24%3A%2Fcore%2Fmodules%2Fmacros%2Fjsontiddlers.js%20%24%3A%2Fcore%2Ftemplates%2Fexporters%2FJsonFile%20%24%3A%2Fcore%2Fmacros%2Fexport
>>
>> -mario
>>
>>
>>

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[tw] Re: Listfilder for backlinks for two titles?

[David Gifford]

Yeah I think I would need something a little more efficient, then.

Dave

On Saturday, July 2, 2016 at 3:46:11 PM UTC-5, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> I have no idea how many is too many. It may not be a problem but the 
> inside second is going to be evaluated once for everything returned by the 
> first. If the first returns 100 results than adding the inner loop could 
> mean that it takes 100 times the time to evaluate. Filters are done pretty 
> well so even with that you may not have any trouble, but if the tiddlers 
> being transcluded are complex or other things are going on it could cause 
> things to slow down.
>

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[tw] Re: Exporting a list of tiddlers

[Zaphod Beeblebrox]

Thank You for taking the time to investigate further :)

Your aforementioned solution will be more than satisfactory for my needs 
until such time as Jeremy or one of the other "Guru's" comes along and 
makes a ridiculously simple fix for the problem.

I took a cursory look at the javascript you linked to, but really can't do 
anything with it.  I can handle (most) HTML, (some) CSS, but anything 
higher than that and I'm just a script-kiddie, making niggling changes here 
and there.

I'm off now to tackle yet another problem: Flexbox divs in TiddlyWiki! 
(wish me luck :-P )

--Zaphod


On Saturday, July 2, 2016 at 8:29:06 PM UTC-4, PMario wrote:
>
> On Friday, July 1, 2016 at 12:59:29 AM UTC+2, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
>>
>> Thank You so much, Mario - That solution does indeed do the trick :)
>>
>> It is a bit cumbersome, but I don't mind - I can simply copy & paste the 
>> titles into a text file (or dummy tiddler) as I create each tiddler, then 
>> format and copy the whole statement into the Advanced Search box when ready 
>> to export my 'update' :)
>>
>> The titles of the tiddlers (in my case) need to be enclosed in single 
>> quotes, as nearly all of them will include spaces (most will be movie 
>> titles, eg: 'Treasure Island (1972-G)' but that's a piddling thing.
>>
>> --Zaphod
>>
>
> use this: [['Treasure Island (1972-G)']]
>
> see: 
> http://tiddlywiki.com/#WikiText:WikiText%20%5B%5BLinking%20in%20WikiText%5D%5D
>
> --
>
> I did have a closer look. ... A generic solution is a bit more 
> complicated, as I thought. 
>
> It would be possible to change the jsontiddlers.js macro, but we would 
> need to find a way to "temporarily" mark tiddlers for export, in a *nice 
> and generic way*. 
> But I don't have an easy to implement idea atm. .. There may be a 
> mechanism, that is similar to the import dialog, but for export. ... 
>
> Just as an info: responsible tiddlers: 
> http://tiddlywiki.com/#%24%3A%2Fcore%2Fmodules%2Fmacros%2Fjsontiddlers.js:%24%3A%2Fcore%2Fmodules%2Fmacros%2Fjsontiddlers.js%20%24%3A%2Fcore%2Ftemplates%2Fexporters%2FJsonFile%20%24%3A%2Fcore%2Fmacros%2Fexport
>
> -mario
>
>
>

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[tw] Re: Exporting a list of tiddlers

[PMario]

On Friday, July 1, 2016 at 12:59:29 AM UTC+2, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
>
> Thank You so much, Mario - That solution does indeed do the trick :)
>
> It is a bit cumbersome, but I don't mind - I can simply copy & paste the 
> titles into a text file (or dummy tiddler) as I create each tiddler, then 
> format and copy the whole statement into the Advanced Search box when ready 
> to export my 'update' :)
>
> The titles of the tiddlers (in my case) need to be enclosed in single 
> quotes, as nearly all of them will include spaces (most will be movie 
> titles, eg: 'Treasure Island (1972-G)' but that's a piddling thing.
>
> --Zaphod
>

use this: [['Treasure Island (1972-G)']]

see: 
http://tiddlywiki.com/#WikiText:WikiText%20%5B%5BLinking%20in%20WikiText%5D%5D

--

I did have a closer look. ... A generic solution is a bit more complicated, 
as I thought. 

It would be possible to change the jsontiddlers.js macro, but we would need 
to find a way to "temporarily" mark tiddlers for export, in a *nice and 
generic way*. 
But I don't have an easy to implement idea atm. .. There may be a 
mechanism, that is similar to the import dialog, but for export. ... 

Just as an info: responsible tiddlers: 
http://tiddlywiki.com/#%24%3A%2Fcore%2Fmodules%2Fmacros%2Fjsontiddlers.js:%24%3A%2Fcore%2Fmodules%2Fmacros%2Fjsontiddlers.js%20%24%3A%2Fcore%2Ftemplates%2Fexporters%2FJsonFile%20%24%3A%2Fcore%2Fmacros%2Fexport

-mario


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[tw] Re: tiddlywiki - 2001

[PMario]

What's the problem with my link?
When I click it it works just fine for me. ... But you need to scroll down 
a little bit.  
https:
//github.com/stars?direction=desc&language=javascript&page=2&sort=stars

Try to copy paste this one. 

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Re: [tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyChrome version 0.5

['Birthe C' via TiddlyWiki]

Hi Richard,

Bookmarks -Show bookmarks bar. You will find apps in the left side.
I do not think it works with BJ's TiddlyClip for Chrome.  I am not able to 
right click and select dock here or select what type of clip I want.


Birthe

On Saturday, July 2, 2016 at 1:45:59 AM UTC+2, RichardWilliamSmith wrote:
>
> Thankyou Arlen,
>
> Found it there and I see how it works now - is there supposed to be a 
> button somewhere that opens the app page?
>
> Do you know if this works with BJ's TiddlyClip for Chrome?
>
> Many thanks for sharing your work with the community.
>
> Regards,
> Richard
>
> On Saturday, July 2, 2016 at 2:59:30 AM UTC+10, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>>
>> No, it should put a shortcut on the apps page, possibly chrome://apps
>> On Jul 1, 2016 05:50, "RichardWilliamSmith"  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Does anyone have this working in Chrome at present? I'm on version 
>>> 51.0.2704.103 - I've installed the .crx file and it shows up 
>>> at chrome://extensions/ but not at chrome://inspect/#apps - it doesn't seem 
>>> to do anything. I feel as though I am missing something important - is this 
>>> supposed to work just like TiddlyFox?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Richard
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[tw] Re: Listfilder for backlinks for two titles?

[Jed Carty]

I have no idea how many is too many. It may not be a problem but the inside 
second is going to be evaluated once for everything returned by the first. 
If the first returns 100 results than adding the inner loop could mean that 
it takes 100 times the time to evaluate. Filters are done pretty well so 
even with that you may not have any trouble, but if the tiddlers being 
transcluded are complex or other things are going on it could cause things 
to slow down.

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Re: [tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyChrome version 0.5

[Arlen Beiler]

I'm not familiar with TiddlyClip, so I don't know.
On Jul 1, 2016 7:46 PM, "RichardWilliamSmith" 
wrote:

> Thankyou Arlen,
>
> Found it there and I see how it works now - is there supposed to be a
> button somewhere that opens the app page?
>
> Do you know if this works with BJ's TiddlyClip for Chrome?
>
> Many thanks for sharing your work with the community.
>
> Regards,
> Richard
>
> On Saturday, July 2, 2016 at 2:59:30 AM UTC+10, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>>
>> No, it should put a shortcut on the apps page, possibly chrome://apps
>> On Jul 1, 2016 05:50, "RichardWilliamSmith" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Does anyone have this working in Chrome at present? I'm on version
>>> 51.0.2704.103 - I've installed the .crx file and it shows up
>>> at chrome://extensions/ but not at chrome://inspect/#apps - it doesn't seem
>>> to do anything. I feel as though I am missing something important - is this
>>> supposed to work just like TiddlyFox?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Richard
>>>
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Re: [tw] Re: Listfilder for backlinks for two titles?

[David Gifford]

how many tiddlers is too many?

On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 1:01 PM, Jed Carty  wrote:

> It is horribly inefficient but this may work if you don't have too many
> tiddlers:
>
> <$list filter='[[Spain]backlinks[]]' variable=LinksSpain>
> <$list filter='[[Modern]backlinks[]field:title]'>
> <$transclude mode="block"/>
> 
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[tw] Re: Listfilder for backlinks for two titles?

[Jed Carty]

It is horribly inefficient but this may work if you don't have too many 
tiddlers:

<$list filter='[[Spain]backlinks[]]' variable=LinksSpain>
<$list filter='[[Modern]backlinks[]field:title]'>
<$transclude mode="block"/>



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[tw] Re: Library tracker plugin - help extending with an API?

[Jed Carty]

It took me a minute to realize that you are probably talking about my 
plugin (the one listed here 
).
 
It is helpful to put a link to what you are talking about in posts like 
this, I often forget about things I have made and if it isn't my plugin you 
are talking about than I don't know where to look to find it.

I am to the point where I think that I need to update many of my plugins 
and to make a more unified interface and settings for them.

As for your actual suggestions:

I agree about the language field. I was living in the US when I first made 
it and had maybe 3 non-english language books total so I didn't think about 
it. This is much more relevant now that I moved to France. When I get to 
updating the library tracker I will add that as a default field. Until then 
you can add custom fields under the settings tab.

The previously selected value is kept when you add a book, so this may not 
actually be about my plugin. But I should add collections or something 
similar that you can add books to with preselected information. I will try 
to add that in a future release.

We have been looking at importing and exporting tiddlers from tiddlywiki 
lately and I think that I should make sure that the tiddlers are in a form 
that can be nicely imported or exported using the built-in methods instead 
of making something new. Hopefully we will be improving the built-in 
methods.

Making tiddlywiki work with 3rd party services seems to be a theme lately. 
The problem with something like this is that different services often have 
unique apis that are a pain to work with. I am not at all opposed to making 
add-on plugins to add this sort of functionality, but I don't think I will 
every make it a priority.
If the service being contacted allows queries via xmlhttprequests than it 
probably won't be difficult but I still wouldn't have much motivation to 
work on it.
Updating drop-downs in real time based on calls to 3rd party services in 
tiddlywiki should be possible, but I think that it would take some work to 
make it operate smoothly.

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[tw] Re: tiddlywiki - 2001

[RichardWilliamSmith]

Yes, Mat - it's the list of all the people who've starred Tiddlywiki. They 
should appear listed under two tabs - 'all' and 'you know' and the 'all' 
tab is currently showing a total of 2004 stars. This 
(https://github.com/search?o=desc&p=1&q=language%3AJavaScript&ref=searchresults&s=stars&type=Repositories&utf8=%E2%9C%93)
 
is the list of all javascript repositories ordered by stars, but you're 
right that Tiddlywiki is probably not on page two, unless the pages are 
made very long.

On Saturday, July 2, 2016 at 5:12:04 PM UTC+10, Mat wrote:
>
> Richard, thanks but that seems to be some list of people who star things 
> (presumably TW?) rather than what I'm expecting - i.e some listing showing 
> all javascript projects sorted by number of stars.
>
> ...but, let's celebrate anyway *YEEE-YIPPEDY-HW*
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw] Listfilder for backlinks for two titles?

[David Gifford]

Hi all

Is there a way to do a list filter that returns only the tiddlers that have 
both a link to one tiddler AND a link to another tiddler?

I tried

<$list filter="[backlinks[Spain]backlinks[Modern]] 
+[sort[title]]"><$transclude mode="block"/>

and

<$list filter="[backlinks[Spain]] +[backlinks[Modern]] 
+[sort[title]]"><$transclude mode="block"/>

Both return more than what I am looking for. I also tried the same with 
links instead of backlinks.

Dave

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[tw] Library tracker plugin - help extending with an API?

[László Zsigmond]

Hello,

For more than a month I was out looking for a way to make a book 
collection. I started with a spreadsheet, went on to develop a book 
collection in evolutility  that 
I have just discovered because of it uses local storage, minimalist setup 
necessities... managed to integrate google books api to it.. But I got 
stuck on with its structure, couldn't get a way to add multiple tags 
dynamically, not from a list. I fired up a Laravel framework to solve this 
problem normally with a web app. But before jumping into coding it popped 
into my mind to give a try and look for a tiddlywiki plugin that does some 
database management thing... and to my supprise I have found the Library 
tracker plugin. Nice catch! :-D

I've never delevoped anything into tiddlywiki, just used it for 2-3 years 
now for information management. Now I would like to customize this Library 
tracker plugin or give hints to its developer so to get a better plugin for 
the TiddlyWiki community.

Maybe its useful to say two lines about how the library tracker works for 
those not familiar with it:

   - books are tiddlers with title of book title, tags of book tags + Book, 
   and with field of author:value, etc.
   - stored json lists: $:/data/BookAuthors, $:/data/BookTags, etc.

My suggestions:

- would be important to have implicitly a language field for books (with 
short codes of en,fr,es, etc.).

- there could be a setting to have preselected options when adding a book 
or just the previously used value: location, language or some other custom 
fields can be the same when introducing all the books from a shelf for 
example.

- For book collections I think it is crucial to have at least one way of 
importing/exporting books for example in csv format. Tags could be stored 
in the form previousColumn,"tag1";"tag2",nextColumn. I could implement this 
import/export functionality through python but thats not of much use for 
tiddlywikiers.

- in the settings could be set an API link input field in which title, 
author and other variables could be placed

- The api link could be implicitly Google Books but I want to make my 
custom api that parses some custom hungarian sites for book titles, 
authors, etc. for better matches.

- when a title is being typed, after the 3rd carachter start sending api 
requests to get autocomplete list dropdown. The api retrieves json items, 
in the list would be 10 matching titles with author and publisher 
displayed. When an item is chosen the author, language, etc json data 
tiddlers should get updated with the new values if they don't exist and 
they should get selected in the add book form.
- if the author or language is selected before typing the title, the 
api searches for matches on the author and language as well



What are your thoughts on it?



Best regards,

Laci

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[tw] Re: tiddlywiki - 2001

[Mat]

Richard, thanks but that seems to be some list of people who star things 
(presumably TW?) rather than what I'm expecting - i.e some listing showing 
all javascript projects sorted by number of stars.

...but, let's celebrate anyway *YEEE-YIPPEDY-HW*

<:-)

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