[tw] Re: Transclude and Reveal question for a novice

2017-01-17 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi again, Toddler,

Yuo may even want to consider using the schema as a prefix, should you have 
more than one, e.g.:

   - schema
   - schema.SomeTable
   - schema.SomeTable.SomeField

Best wishes,

Tobias.

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[tw] Re: Transclude and Reveal question for a novice

2017-01-17 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi there, Toddler,

May I recommend you change your naming conventions?

I would recommend you title your tables as they are, e.g.:

*SomeTable*

and then you title each field as:

*SomeTable.SomeField*

Why? Because...

   1. there may be different tables with the same field
   2. searching for the table will also give you each field in the results

Here's a little demo that shows you how to display fields for a table based 
on the above:

http://schema.tiddlyspot.com

As for your meta-data or otherwise related data, here's what I would 
recommend:

   1. put simple, oneliners like yes/no into a field of each Table or Field 
   tiddler
   2. put exhaustive related information into their own tiddlers, e.g. 
*SomeTable 
   Notes*

Best wishes,

Tobias.

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Re: [tw] Re: [tw5] Collecting links for tiddlywiki.com

2017-01-17 Thread Mat
@jeremy

LeftBar plugin and toggle macro.

More hopefully to come within not too long.

<:-)

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Simpe example for Video or Audio Library

2017-01-17 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Greg,

Looks nice and lean, especially the toc on the left and your player.

I would recommend you turn your player into a macro or even template,
so you only feed it what it needs, e.g. the video id, poster and title,

<>

In fact, you may want to even use fields for each video tiddler, e.g.

title: Doo Doom Chit Official M/V
yt: syvOPpgilVA
yt-title: 배드키즈 - 이리로 (COME CLOSER) M/V
poster: kpop\Introduction-to-TiddlyWiki.png

...and then use a Conditional ViewTemplate Section 
 to 
display your player template for every tiddler that has a *yt* field, e.g.:

title: $:/_my/ui/ViewTemplate/youtube
tags: $:/tags/ViewTemplate

\define youtube-link() https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=$(yt)$

<$list filter="[all[current]has[yt]]">

 
 
 Sorry, your browser does not support the HTML 5 video tag.



<$list filer="[all[current]has[yt-title]]">
''{{!!yt-title}} - ~YouTube''

<$vars yt={{!!yt}}>
<>




Best wishes,

Tobias.

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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki, Linux Mint and Node.js

2017-01-17 Thread Matthew Lauber
Ran you ran npm install -g tiddlywik Did you use sudo?  And when you ran 
tiddlywiki 
--version Did you use sudo for that?

On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 7:37:42 AM UTC-5, PJO wrote:
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> It looked like it worked ok but I got an error when I tried to get a 
> version number after installation. Step 3 in the node.js instructions on 
> tiddlywiki.com.
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[tw] Transclude and Reveal question for a novice

2017-01-17 Thread Toddler Wiki
Hello,

I am fairly new to TiddlyWiki and I am trying to use the transclude feature 
to build a data dictionary for my data warehouse.

Generally... What I have a tiddler for every field and every table that in 
the data warehouse. The field tiddlers have tags that match the table 
tiddlers.

A general field tiddler looks like this…

Tiddler Name: Field_Name_01


Business Description: Random Text about the field

Data Type: varchar(25)


Inside of the tiddler there is a list for every table that the field is in


   - Table_Name_0


   - Allow Nulls: yes/no
   

   - Original Name:
   

   - Column Notes:
   

   - Table_Name_02


   - Allow Nulls: yes/no
   

   - Original Name
   

   - Column Notes:
   

   - Table_Name_03


   - Allow Nulls: yes/no
   

   - Original Name
   

   - Column Notes:
   

The tiddler uses a simple list where the code looks like this.''Business 
Definition:''

 

''Business Description:'' Random Text about the field

 

''Data Type:'' varchar(25)

 

* [[Table_Name_01]]

 

** ''Allow Nulls:'' yes/no

 

** ''Original Name:''

 

** ''Column Notes:''

 

* [[Table_Name_02]]

 

** ''Allow Nulls:'' yes/no

 

** ''Original Name:''

 

** ''Column Notes:''

 

* [[Table_Name_03]]

 

** ''Allow Nulls:'' yes/no

 

** ''Original Name:''

 

** ''Column Notes:''

 
 The table tiddlers use the following code


<$list filter=" [tag[Teller_Transaction]] ">

!!! <$link><$view field="title"/>
<<<
<$transclude/>
<<< 



I would like to alter the table tiddler so that it only shows the 
appropriate information for that table. Preferably I would like the 
information to be expandable but default to whatever table is being looked 
at and if only the field tiddler is being looked at then the all the 
information would be expanded.

As an example for a table tiddler…

Tiddler Name: Field_Name_01


Business Description: Random Text about the field

Data Type: varchar(25)


   - Table_Name_01


   - Table_Name_02


   - Allow Nulls: yes/no
   

   - Original Name:
   

   - Table_Name_03


   - Table_Name_04


I know that I will probably have to add something to the field tiddlers as 
well.

I hope someone can point me in the right direction or just provide some 
instructions on how to achieve this. As I said, I am very new to tiddlywiki 
so all simplified responses and patience would be greatly appreciated.

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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki app idea

2017-01-17 Thread PJO
Apologies, I completely missed your post with the downloadable attachment 
and was responding to a different post. I've now tried it out. First, let 
me say *thanks*! 

I was initially slightly baffled. Instead of 

URL date

You've made

tiddlername comment journalbutton url

and took me a few moments to figure this out (I didn't even immediately 
recognise the add journal entry button, sorry) and also I had to see how to 
add a field (I have not yet done anything like this with TW5; this isn't a 
complaint, just to be clear about how idiotproof instructions need to be!).

Ok, so I created tiddlers and added fields with urls and then clicked on 
the links for the urls. The web page opened, the journal was updated, but 
no timestamp was recorded. Then I tried adding a comment and the timestamp 
was recorded ok. Am I right in thinking that a one step action isn't 
possible? Because, well, I don't need to record comments every time I visit 
a web site! Apart from that it seems very workable and it certainly does 
what I need. Yes, the last table looks great.

Now that I can see it working it crosses my mind that it might be nice to 
have a "days since" column as well as or instead of the date, but I could 
live without it. This would be handy for things one looks at without any 
schedule -- just using intuition -- where the actual date doesn't matter 
that much.

Bravo and thanks again! I'll be happy to try any further iteration. This is 
something I have wanted FOREVER so I'm really very pleased.

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[tw] Re: tiddlywiki.com Website Update and Improvement Suggestions

2017-01-17 Thread Josiah
Ciao Penguinlay

I'm very interested in what newcomers do. How they find their way around. 
What they feel is difficult. 

Just getting bearings with TW I found tough when I started. I was worth it, 
but we need listen more to newcomers IMO.

Good luck!
Josiah

On Tuesday, 17 January 2017 21:29:41 UTC+1, Penguinlay wrote:
>
> Thank you. Since I am still learning, the issues I saw were not code 
> related. Rather, they are documentation related. I will read more and 
> contribute it appropriately as I learn.
>
> On Tuesday, January 17, 2017 at 4:21:17 AM UTC-8, Tobias Beer wrote:
>>
>> Hi Penguinlay,
>>
>> Hi, is there any place to make suggestion of updates to the 
>>> tiddlywiki.com site itself?
>>>
>>
>> That could be the issues on https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5.
>>
>> However, please read: http://tiddlywiki.com/#Contributing to understand 
>> the workflows / procedures.
>>
>> For complex changes it's best to create a demo.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Tobias.
>>
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[tw] [TW5] Simpe example for Video or Audio Library

2017-01-17 Thread Greg Davis
Looking at a growing collection of videos and audios on various topics 
created a simple test to see how it might work. Thought it might be of 
interest to others.

This example is for a few KPOP videos which would be stored locally on an 
internal or external hard drive. So most of the videos will not play but 
have included a few examples for online content for those that might prefer 
that. Right now just uses the Table Of Contents, have not tried creating 
lists or other ways to sort.

Example templates for Local, Dropbox and YouTube are included. At can be 
viewed at: http://kpoplibrary.tiddlyspot.com

BJ's calendar plugin is included if you want to collect something like 
regular podcasts.

Hope this example might help spark your own ideas.

Greg

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[tw] Re: tiddlywiki.com Website Update and Improvement Suggestions

2017-01-17 Thread Penguinlay
Thank you. Since I am still learning, the issues I saw were not code 
related. Rather, they are documentation related. I will read more and 
contribute it appropriately as I learn.

On Tuesday, January 17, 2017 at 4:21:17 AM UTC-8, Tobias Beer wrote:
>
> Hi Penguinlay,
>
> Hi, is there any place to make suggestion of updates to the tiddlywiki.com 
>> site itself?
>>
>
> That could be the issues on https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5.
>
> However, please read: http://tiddlywiki.com/#Contributing to understand 
> the workflows / procedures.
>
> For complex changes it's best to create a demo.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Tobias.
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Best up-to-date & stable data visualization plugin (e.g. json) for charts?

2017-01-17 Thread Shane Leonard
Here  is 
the link to the plotly plugin development thread in TiddlyWikiDev.

On Tuesday, January 17, 2017 at 12:03:21 PM UTC-8, Shane Leonard wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am working on a plot.ly plugin for TiddlyWiki, and just wanted to check 
> if anyone in this group has already made any progress in this respect. I am 
> new to TW5 plugin development and there are some quirks about plotly 
> specifically, so if you have any wise words, I'm all ears. I'll be starting 
> a new thread for this topic as well, so if you're interested, you can 
> follow along there (I'll post the link here shortly).
>
> Best,
> Shane
>
> On Thursday, September 29, 2016 at 12:42:36 AM UTC-7, Albert wrote:
>>
>> Hi NT, I did a lot of research on charting libraries. By far, the most 
>> complete is: https://plot.ly/javascript/ (MIT license)
>>
>> It would be awesome to have the power of plotly in TW... !
>>
>> Reards,
>>
>> El jueves, 29 de septiembre de 2016, 1:04:44 (UTC+2), NT escribió:
>>>
>>> Jed, I totally understand your straight forward way of working and the 
>>> problems to make something more general for other people. I know, it's a 
>>> very different thing. You are right, a requirements document would be the 
>>> right thing here, at least. If I think d3 would be the best way to go I 
>>> probably would make up my mind about requirements. But I am not at this 
>>> point, already. 
>>> For some reason you are keen to solve charting with d3. Why? I mean I 
>>> have no clue about alternatives and maybe your reasons are good - just want 
>>> to know.
>>> Why not all the others that crossed my way like
>>> * raphael.js
>>> * graphviz
>>> * vis.js
>>> * ...
>>> Is d3 most powerful, most easy to integrate, most spreaded technology? 
>>> Sorry, no clue and time for research now.
>>> Indeed I'll have a look back just on sunday, because I'll be busy until 
>>> then. 
>>> Would be nice to get some more info in the meantime. Thanks to all.
>>>
>>

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[tw] Re: Hovercard for Wiki links?

2017-01-17 Thread Penguinlay
Oops, that's why I still can't find it, lol! Thanks again!

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>
> Hi Penguinlay,
>
> Ah, wait, the plugin to preview a tiddler when you hover a link is 
> actually tobibeer/preview 
> :
>
> http://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/#preview
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Tobias.
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[tw] Developing a Plot.ly plugin--input appreciated!

2017-01-17 Thread Shane Leonard
Hi all,

As it seems there is a lack of good plotting/visualization libraries for 
TW5 (besides vis), I am trying to make a simple plot.ly js wrapper for TW5 
along with a <$plotly> widget.

However, as this is my first real TW5 plugin, I'm struggling in some 
respects, and would love some input.

So far, I've wrapped the plotly.js library in an IIFE which provides 
'document' as either $tw.fakeDocument if building under node, or 
window.document for the browser. I'm building the plugin according to this 
guide 

 
from the developer documentation, but I keep running into the limitations 
of $tw.fakeDocument. For instance, in the plotly library, there's a line 
which executes 
document.head.appendChild(/*...*/)

When I try to build the index.html, I get an error complaining that 
appendChild doesn't exist for 'undefined'. I can try working through errors 
like this one by one, but it seems this is fundamentally to do with the 
limitations of $tw.fakeDocument. (Also, the ploty javascript library is 
>150,000 lines of code, so I REALLY don't want to have to modify the 
original library at all). Is there a way for me to develop this plugin such 
that it doesn't build for node but it does work on the browser? Or is there 
something I'm overlooking?

Thanks,
Shane


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[tw] Re: [TW5] Best up-to-date & stable data visualization plugin (e.g. json) for charts?

2017-01-17 Thread Shane Leonard
Hi all,

I am working on a plot.ly plugin for TiddlyWiki, and just wanted to check 
if anyone in this group has already made any progress in this respect. I am 
new to TW5 plugin development and there are some quirks about plotly 
specifically, so if you have any wise words, I'm all ears. I'll be starting 
a new thread for this topic as well, so if you're interested, you can 
follow along there (I'll post the link here shortly).

Best,
Shane

On Thursday, September 29, 2016 at 12:42:36 AM UTC-7, Albert wrote:
>
> Hi NT, I did a lot of research on charting libraries. By far, the most 
> complete is: https://plot.ly/javascript/ (MIT license)
>
> It would be awesome to have the power of plotly in TW... !
>
> Reards,
>
> El jueves, 29 de septiembre de 2016, 1:04:44 (UTC+2), NT escribió:
>>
>> Jed, I totally understand your straight forward way of working and the 
>> problems to make something more general for other people. I know, it's a 
>> very different thing. You are right, a requirements document would be the 
>> right thing here, at least. If I think d3 would be the best way to go I 
>> probably would make up my mind about requirements. But I am not at this 
>> point, already. 
>> For some reason you are keen to solve charting with d3. Why? I mean I 
>> have no clue about alternatives and maybe your reasons are good - just want 
>> to know.
>> Why not all the others that crossed my way like
>> * raphael.js
>> * graphviz
>> * vis.js
>> * ...
>> Is d3 most powerful, most easy to integrate, most spreaded technology? 
>> Sorry, no clue and time for research now.
>> Indeed I'll have a look back just on sunday, because I'll be busy until 
>> then. 
>> Would be nice to get some more info in the meantime. Thanks to all.
>>
>

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 TiddlyWiki on Remote (Shared) Host: 500 Internal Server Error

2017-01-17 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Purgatori

The error message you are receiving is a 500 which means an internal server 
error. TiddlyWiki cannot generate that error; it must be your web server that 
is generating the error.

As Tobias suggests, file size may be a problem. Another possibility is that the 
server is configured to perform some processing when serving HTML files.

Best wishes

Jeremy


> On 17 Jan 2017, at 05:42, Purgatori Sakkara  wrote:
> 
> Interesting thought, Tobias. I'll attempt to get in touch with my provider 
> and find out whether that is the case. 
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> On Tuesday, January 17, 2017 at 11:26:50 PM UTC+11, Tobias Beer wrote:
> Hi Purgatori,
> 
> Maybe your hosting has weird limitations regarding file-size?
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Tobias.
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Re: [tw] Re: Lost work two times with tiddlywiki node version

2017-01-17 Thread Russell Cosway
I have started to suffer this now.  I am on a MacMini running MacOS Sierra 
10.12.2.  I use Firefox 50.1.0 and autosave is enabled; I only used Firefox 
for TW work.  TW version is 5.1.13 and is on a node.js hosted on AWS - I 
didn't set that up but could get the server setup details is needed.

I have had no browser crashes and I can see no recreatable pattern of 
circumstances.  I have literally watched the text of the tiddler disappear 
in front of my eyes.  Due to the inter-relationships i'm working on i may 
have 10 tiddlers open at once, maybe 2-5 of those in draft.  However, the 
loss occurs when I have saved and the TW tick has gone from red to grey - 
soon after saving a tiddler, either that tiddler or another I have open 
clears.  There are no "drafts" of the lost tiddler left.  The tags and last 
saved information remains intact, just the text is cleared.  The json 
export shows it as "".

I too have now lost hours of work and considering my options to produce my 
wiki, so any insights and improvements would welcomed.
R

On Tuesday, December 27, 2016 at 12:00:25 AM UTC, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>
> It may be a bug, and we may need to look into it.
>
> See my link in the last post, or quoted below, showing how to use NodeJS 
> data folders with Electron so it saves correctly. 
>
> Please do take all reasonable precautions in using this as well, and I 
> can't warrent that it is perfect, but it's for your reference.
>
> Enjoy :)
> -Arlen
>
> On Dec 24, 2016 20:47, "Dmitry Sokolov"  > wrote:
>
> I see dropping modified tiddler as a bug.
>
> I am intensively working with PBWorks at the moment (while preparing 
> transfer to TW in future).
> PBWorks gives you all indicators of the processes taking place. I know, 
> for example, that saving finished when a URL with no "edit" appeared. Then, 
> it's safe to close the window.
> Another protection measures they have is a warning dialogue on closing 
> page being edited, before the save button pressed.
>
> I think, we have to learn best practices from other platforms, collect 
> them within just one platform, and implement as soon as practical.
> Sorry for being persistent with the simple idea:
> our team performance depends on how quick particular topics are 
> found/discovered for reuse.
> Please let me know if this mechanism is already realised, and that's just 
> me who can't see it.
>
> Thank you,
> Dmitry
>
>
> On Saturday, 24 December 2016 10:17:50 UTC+13, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>
>> I just had an idea. The way the NodeJS server currently works is 
>> asynchronous. It syncs with the server and then returns to the browser. 
>> Then the server syncs to the file system and returns. If there would have 
>> been a time where you closed your draft, waited for the check mark to turn 
>> grey, and then immediately exited, it is possible that the server could 
>> have missed writing the files. Try to see if you can replicate it like 
>> this. If so, that may be the problem. 
>>
>> The way I dealt with that was to hack tiddlywiki (forget how, but I think 
>> involved some of the first code in boot.js or bootprefix.js) so that it 
>> would save directly to the file system from the browser. 
>>
>> Here's a gist that I posted 
>> https://gist.github.com/Arlen22/45f1a460c9e348fa50ad
>>
>> For electron you would set the data directory in index.html, then open 
>> index.html in a new BrowserWindow. And your done. The file syncer actually 
>> takes care of saving changes, so it should stay red until the file actually 
>> gets saved.
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 9:51 AM, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
>> tiddl...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Not necessarily a bug in TW per se. No one ever promised (that I know 
>>> of) that it would work on Electron. Definitely no one promised that it 
>>> would work with a custom version of Electron and if it's on a custom branch 
>>> of TW5 that depends on sensing its platform  --- all bets are off.
>>>
>>> Just depending on small desktop web/file  servers (like node.js) has 
>>> always been risky in my experience. The hardware and the software may not 
>>> be robust enough in all situations. Usually, there are time lags. Your 
>>> machine may prioritize your email or web browsing over the web server.  If 
>>> you shut down your machine or server before a save has completed (which 
>>> might happen if you have a 3 or 5 page tiddler) then the chances are even 
>>> greater. The trick in that situation would be to either save your own copy 
>>> of current work locally or to break the work into smaller chunks. The 
>>> editing tools in TW5 make working with smaller chunks easier than before.
>>>
>>>  If you check the forum, you will see that reports of actual data loss 
>>> are fairly rare. The file-based TW seems to save itself reliably.  To be an 
>>> actual bug you would need to see a repeatable set of standard circumstances 
>>> under which TW fails to save.
>>>
>>> Have fun,
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, 

[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki app idea

2017-01-17 Thread PMario
On Tuesday, January 17, 2017 at 1:35:03 PM UTC+1, PJO wrote:
>
> No, I don't want a journal equivalent in TiddlyWiki of the browser history.
>

What makes you think, that's the case, if you didn't test it?
 

> Let me walk you through it by describing doing manually what I'd like to 
> automate. Let's say it's Monday, and the 1st day of the month and I wish to 
> do some weekly and monthly visits to some web sites. 
>

That's perfectly fine. In TW tagging is a very powerful feature. Every 
tiddler can have several tags. eg: if you tag a tiddler: default and add 
the following filter to the *ControlPanel: Info: Basic: Default tiddlers  
*setting: 
[tag[default]]  it will open those tiddlers every time you open your TW. 

So you can tag a "Dashboard" tiddler, that lists your tasks, and lets you 
easily jump to other dashboards. 

Those dashboards can display any filtered list, that uses the link-journal. 
 

> First I go to the Weekly Tiddler, and I find for the sake of illustration, 
> a few URLs, each with a date after it:
>
> ULR1 date
> ULR1 date
> etc.
>
> I click on each URL and then go back and edit the date manually.
>

As you may have found out in the conversation here and on github, it's not 
possible at the moment to automatically trigger tw-action events if you 
click an external link. The core doesn't provide that function (yet). ... 
That's why I did create my proof of concept in the way I did, to work 
around the existing limitations, and offer something, that should work, as 
close as possible to your OP. Additionally, 
 

> Then repeat for the Monthly tiddler. I don't actually do this but if 
> Tiddlywiki could set the date automatically I would organize my bookmarks 
> using TiddlyWiki.
>

That's the way I did it as close as possible. You just have to use your 
imagination, to get the stuff going. ... and off course you should at least 
test, what someone else prepared "just for you" in his free time. 

As I wrote: 

Feedback is very welcome! .. So I can iterate and try to create a simple 
> plugin. 
>

Let me rephrase this: "No feedback" -> No changes!  ... It's as simple as 
that. 

have fun!
mario






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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki app idea

2017-01-17 Thread PJO
Maybe I've misunderstood... are you suggesting this: changing each link to 
a button that includes the date it was last clicked? That would work, sure! 
I haven't had time to futz with this. Will try later today.

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[tw] Re: TW5 TiddlyWiki on Remote (Shared) Host: 500 Internal Server Error

2017-01-17 Thread Purgatori Sakkara
Interesting thought, Tobias. I'll attempt to get in touch with my provider 
and find out whether that is the case. 

Cheers!

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> Hi Purgatori,
>
> Maybe your hosting has weird limitations regarding file-size?
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Tobias.
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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki app idea

2017-01-17 Thread PJO
No, I don't want a journal equivalent in TiddlyWiki of the browser history. 
Let me walk you through it by describing doing manually what I'd like to 
automate. Let's say it's Monday, and the 1st day of the month and I wish to 
do some weekly and monthly visits to some web sites. 

First I go to the Weekly Tiddler, and I find for the sake of illustration, 
a few URLs, each with a date after it:

ULR1 date
ULR1 date
etc.

I click on each URL and then go back and edit the date manually. Then 
repeat for the Monthly tiddler. I don't actually do this but if Tiddlywiki 
could set the date automatically I would organize my bookmarks using 
TiddlyWiki.

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[tw] Re: TW5 TiddlyWiki on Remote (Shared) Host: 500 Internal Server Error

2017-01-17 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Purgatori,

Maybe your hosting has weird limitations regarding file-size?

Best wishes,

Tobias.

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[tw] Re: Hovercard for Wiki links?

2017-01-17 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Penguinlay,

Ah, wait, the plugin to preview a tiddler when you hover a link is actually 
tobibeer/preview :

http://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/#preview

Best wishes,

Tobias.

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[tw] Re: [TW 5] Two Way Update for Editing Non-Orphan Tiddlers' Title

2017-01-17 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Penguinlay,

Is it possible that whenever I update a non-orphan tiddler, every other 
> links to it using title[] filter is also updated?
>

Please post a specific (wikitext) example where you're not seeing any 
refreshing but where you would expect it.

Best wishes,

Tobias. 

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[tw] Re: tiddlywiki.com Website Update and Improvement Suggestions

2017-01-17 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Penguinlay,

Hi, is there any place to make suggestion of updates to the tiddlywiki.com 
> site itself?
>

That could be the issues on https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5.

However, please read: http://tiddlywiki.com/#Contributing to understand the 
workflows / procedures.

Best wishes,

Tobias.

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[tw] Re: TW5 TiddlyWiki on Remote (Shared) Host: 500 Internal Server Error

2017-01-17 Thread Purgatori Sakkara
Strange. :-S I thought there must have been something I was missing, 
because, and perhaps I should have mentioned this to begin with, regular 
html files (for example, the index.html) uploaded to the same directory 
work just fine.

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> Hi Purgatori,
>
> Funny name there ;-)
>
> Try uploading any simple html file and see if it loads.
>  
>
>> Shouldn't a TiddlyWiki file 'just work' when accessed online, the way it 
>> does when you access it through a browser locally,
>>
>
> That's right.
>  
>
>> or do I need to set some additional configuration options/permissions in 
>> order for it to work? 
>>
>
> You don't. Perhaps you have some htaccess file with a syntax error in your 
> server / that directory?
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Tobias.
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Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyWiki app idea

2017-01-17 Thread PMario
Hi,

Did you try my attachment from the other post?

-m

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[tw] Re: Hovercard for Wiki links?

2017-01-17 Thread Penguinlay
Hi, Tobias. I am playing around with your plug in now. It is really rich in 
features, and especially, I can make popup upon pointer. I will get back 
here if I have any more questions. Thank you!

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> Hi Penguinlay:
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> This plugin of mine should give you plenty to play with: tobibeer/appear 
> 
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Tobias.
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[tw] Re: Hovercard for Wiki links?

2017-01-17 Thread Penguinlay
Thank you for suggestion! I don't think reveal widget has a feature of 
automatic popup upon pointing on a link.

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> Hi Penguinlay,
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> This may be of interest: http://tiddlywiki.com/#RevealWidget 
> Have a look at the popup behaviour. 
>
> have fun!
> mario
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[tw] [TW 5] Two Way Update for Editing Non-Orphan Tiddlers' Title

2017-01-17 Thread Penguinlay
Is it possible that whenever I update a non-orphan tiddler, every other 
links to it using title[] filter is also updated?

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[tw] tiddlywiki.com Website Update and Improvement Suggestions

2017-01-17 Thread Penguinlay
Hi, is there any place to make suggestion of updates to the tiddlywiki.com 
site itself?

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