[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki and Coronavirus: March 2020 [Continued...]

[A Gloom]

I knew it but no one would believe the doomsayer-- the American economy and 
its freedoms runs off of human secrifice...

don't do a Google search for covid seniors sacrificed

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki and Coronavirus: March 2020 [Continued...]

[TonyM]

Interesting argument that the term should be physical distancing,

Not social distancing. Detailed in attached PDF

Tony

On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 6:12:47 AM UTC+11, Mohammad wrote:
>
> This thread continues the discussion of Tiddlywiki and Coronavirus: 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/IGrE-fslX84/PB-8xcFmAgAJ
>
> This is to share information and see how we can use Tiddlywiki in this 
> situation as a tool to help others.
> The original thread got around 800 views and more than 104 posts.
>
> --Mohammad
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Two plugins, Mousey - a mouse widget like the keyboard widget, and Relations - track relationships between things

[Mohammad]

Wonderful Jed,

Thank you for sharing! I love the Relations plugin and the way it handles 
dynamic tables.

Hope to see your other plugins you mentioned above!

Thank you
Mohammad

On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 1:28:46 AM UTC+4:30, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> I made these a while ago after being asked for them and forgot to actually 
> post the results.
>
> The Mousey plugin lets you put actions on mouse events. Click, double 
> click, right click, mouse down, mouse up, enter and leave are supported. 
> See the examples for what all that means.
> https://ooktech-tw.gitlab.io/plugins/mousey/
>
> The Relations plugin lets you do things like set up family trees for more 
> interesting (or if you want, non-traditional) family trees, or roads 
> between towns or any number of things. It lets you set up a graph with 
> directed or undirected edges if you want it in graph theory terms. See the 
> example for what that means.
> No, it isn't graphical.
> https://ooktech-tw.gitlab.io/plugins/relations/
>
> I probably have a few more things that I haven't bothered to release yet, 
> I am looking through my stuff.
>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddler translate by Google button

[Mohammad]

On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 9:22:45 AM UTC+4:30, A Gloom wrote:
>
> bug alert >.
> the Translate button isn't working for me any longer-- not even translate: 
> words in the search bar isn't working-- whatever sorcery I pulled off 
> initially, the mad god Google ain't allowing now
>
> but i has alternate mumble-jumble to use... in the action-sendmessage 
> param -- 
>
> https://translate.google.com/?text=Hello,+how+are+you%3F#view=home&op=translate&sl=en&tl=hi&text=paste%20(contril-V)%20to%20insert%20instructions
> which brings up an more interesting ui instanve of Google Translate
>
> a fix will be a lil slow-- eyes aren't cooperating-- I think i pushed them 
> too far the last couple days-- but I'll get to a fix
>
> @Mohammad
>
> you're AWESOME!1! I love seeing collabrative work! Will it be incorporated 
> into the Covid19 wiki? (that is if your template isn't effected by my 
> malfunctioning code)
>
Thank you! The idea is yours!
Yes, I use it in my WIki :-) and have documented under your name in 
TW-Scripts. 

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[tw5] Re: Tiddler translate by Google button

[A Gloom]

bug alert >.https://translate.google.com/?text=Hello,+how+are+you%3F#view=home&op=translate&sl=en&tl=hi&text=paste%20(contril-V)%20to%20insert%20instructions
which brings up an more interesting ui instanve of Google Translate

a fix will be a lil slow-- eyes aren't cooperating-- I think i pushed them 
too far the last couple days-- but I'll get to a fix

@Mohammad

you're AWESOME!1! I love seeing collabrative work! Will it be incorporated 
into the Covid19 wiki? (that is if your template isn't effected by my 
malfunctioning code)

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[tw5] Re: Creating tiddlers and programmatically modifying them?

[Mohammad]

Flibbles,

This is really amazing!
I did not know Tiddlywiki allows nested macros! This can open another 
window in scripting in TW

--Mohammad

On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 5:19:11 PM UTC+4:30, Flibbles wrote:
>
> Why doesn't it work?
>
> I'm unsure whether you want $(name)$ to be replaced during creation, or if 
> you want to copy `\define code-tiddler() $(name)$` exactly as is, but 
> either way, you can include pragma inside the body macro.
>
> \define body()
> \define code-tiddler() $(value)$
>
> Dear $(name)$,
>
> I write to inform you that your pet, $(pet)$ has filed for emancipation.
> \end
>
>
> $(value)$ here will remain as-is unless `value` is defined. If it IS 
> defined, it'll replace, so you can get either way you want it, I'd think.
>
> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 8:35:19 AM UTC-4, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Fibbles,
>>
>> I have just realized this won't work in the tiddler I create needs to 
>> contain a define
>> \define code-tiddler() $(name)$
>>
>> There are many applications it will, but perhaps not this one.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 1:19:05 PM UTC+11, Flibbles wrote:
>>>
>>> This would be outside the scope of Relink, but  there are ways to 
>>> programmatically fill out a generated tiddler.
>>>
>>> \define body()
>>> Dear $(name)$,
>>>
>>> I write to inform you that your pet, $(pet)$ has filed for emancipation.
>>> \end
>>>
>>> \define createButton()
>>> <$button tooltip="Create new letter" aria-label="new letter" class=<>> config-toolbar-class>>>
>>> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" title=<> text=<<
>>> body>> />
>>> <$list filter="[prefix[yes]]">
>>> {{$:/core/images/new-button}}
>>> 
>>> <$list filter="[prefix[yes]]">
>>> <$text text="new letter" />
>>> 
>>> 
>>> \end
>>>
>>>
>>> <$set name="title" value="New Letter">
>>> <$set name="name" value="Wilson">
>>> <$set name="pet" value="snuffles">
>>> <>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> This will create a new tiddler. with a variable title, name, and pet.
>>>
>>> -Flibbles
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 9:20:52 PM UTC-4, TonyM wrote:

 Folks,

 I have a little project where it would be helpful if I could create a 
 tiddler from a template (for its body) but then replace various content 
 within the text or fields with different values.

 For example what if the template included ##name## then I had a macro 
 that would replace in the body of the new tiddler

- ##name## with Tony
- ##icon## with {{<>||$:/core/images/info-button}}
- etc...

 I imagine if a set of such changes could be triggered by a button and 
 an action widget all the better.

 I have other ways to achieve this but it would surprise me if the code 
 was not already available somewhere.

 Any leads would be appreciated

 Regards
 Tony

>>>

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[tw5] Re: wikitext table formatting

[A Gloom]

@Mario

Nice work on extending wikitext for tables!

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[tw5] Re: Additions for Mohammad's Covid-19 TW

[A Gloom]

bug alert >.https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/c76bc2f4-73a5-47d9-8ec5-c539097fcb5d%40googlegroups.com.

[tw5] Re: [TW5] Two plugins, Mousey - a mouse widget like the keyboard widget, and Relations - track relationships between things

[A Gloom]

Nice, I see applications for Mousy in a TW browser based game

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[tw5] Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] file-backups plugin will be updated at: March 20th - Browser restart required!

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

If I set the download directory to C:\, then I can set the backup directory 
to /users/mark/temp/twbackups ... the file is saved and the backup works!

But if I set the download directory to D:\, and I set the backup directory 
to /temp/twbackups ... the file is saved, but the backup appears in a 
sub-directory of the target file, ignoring the specified backup path. This 
may be related to D: being a network drive, EXCEPT for the next weird thing.

If I set the download directory to D:\, and I set the backup directory to 
../../temp/twbackups ... the file is saved, AND the backup appears in the 
designated directory. So, if it was a permissions thing, I wouldn't expect 
that to work at all. The problem is, giving a path like ../../twbackups 
will save to the wrong place as soon as I go down one more directory level.

My thought was that it would be possible to have one window set up to save 
using the C: directory, and another windows (FF profile) set up to work 
with the D: directory. But the backup for the D: directory is uncooperative.

Thanks!


On Wednesday, March 11, 2020 at 2:35:58 AM UTC-7, PMario wrote:
>
> Hi Folks, 
>
>  edit 
> Version 0.4.0 is active at: 
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/file-backups/
>  /edit 
>
> TLDR; This post is important for you, IF your PC is always on, your 
> browser is never restarted, your TW tabs are always open _and_ you use 
> file-backups plugin V0.3.5 or earlier. 
>
> If _all_ of this is true for you, I highly recommend to go on reading if 
> you don't want to loose some data!
>
> -mario
>
> *More details*
>
> FireFox has switched to a 4 week release cycle starting with FF 71. That 
> means I have to test file-backups compatibility even more frequently than 
> it was needed with the 6 week release cycle. 
>
> I do test file-backups V0.3.5 and (V0.3.10 beta) with *FF-stable*, 
> *FF-developer 
> edition, FF-nightly and Cliqz browser* as soon as a new "stable" release 
> will be activated.
> AND 
> Most of the time, some days prior to a new stable release. ... Just to be 
> sure it still works.
>
> We need to update file-backups V0.3.5 
>  plugin to 
> V0.4.0 because *it will contain a much better update behaviour*.
>
> At the moment, it's possible to loose data, if the AddOn is updated in the 
> background, because of some oversights in early days V0.3.5.
>
> Users, that use file-backups V0.3.10 beta [1] shouldn't run into the 
> edge-case described below. See point 1) at What's New below.
>
> File-Backups plugin is only active for tabs with a file:/// URL
>
> *Data-loss is possible if: *
>
>  - Your PC is always on *_and_*
>  - Your browser is never closed / restarted *_and_*
>  - Your TiddlyWiki tabs are open all the time *_and_ *
>  - Browser AddOns are updated automatically
>
>  - Browser update in the background _may_ cause problems, but I don't have 
> evidence about this atm. 
>
> It's edge-cases, but I know that there are some users, that use TWs that 
> way. ... 
>
>- The easiest way to be safe for those users is to restart the 
>browser, once the AddOn is updated
>- Reloading a TW tab will do the same thing. 
>
> *The problem at the moment is*, that there is *no visible indication*, 
> that a new AddOn version has been installed and activated. (Sorry about 
> that!)
>
> What's New in V0.4.0
>
>  1) The plugin, if downloaded in the background, will only be installed 
> and activated at browser restart
>  2) Memory leak fixed for frequently saved huge TWs
>  3) File-Backups AddOn only uses 1 icon - The browser "diamond" icon
>  4) The "diamond" icon gets an "orange" !-indicator 
>  - The drop-down will show eg: new version ;)
>  5) An "out of order" backup is created if a TiddlyWiki is saved for the 
> first time
>  - Only different names are detected.
>  - If the AddOn is uninstalled and installed again the first save 
> will create an "out of order" backup per new name.
>  6) Backups are activated by default if the AddOn is installed
>  7) Default number of backups was increased from 6 to 7 
>  8) The plugin Options setting site was updated
>  9) AddOn should work for "FireFox for Android"
>  - At least it does for me ;)
>
> have fun!
> mario
>
> *PS - If you USE it: Support it  :) *
>
> [1] https://github.com/pmario/file-backups/releases/tag/V0.3.10-beta
>

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[tw5] Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] file-backups plugin will be updated at: March 20th - Browser restart required!

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Customize and change folders ... where did you get that?


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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Two plugins, Mousey - a mouse widget like the keyboard widget, and Relations - track relationships between things

[TonyM]

Jed,

These look marvelous, thanks so much for your ongoing contributions.


   - Is there any capacity to include the middle mouse click or roller?
   - Its not essential as you already provide a lot of functionality.


Out side of your examples what uses and actions do you think this will be 
good for. So far this facility has not being easily available I wonder if 
you imagination has explored the possibilities?

Regards
Tony


On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 7:58:46 AM UTC+11, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> I made these a while ago after being asked for them and forgot to actually 
> post the results.
>
> The Mousey plugin lets you put actions on mouse events. Click, double 
> click, right click, mouse down, mouse up, enter and leave are supported. 
> See the examples for what all that means.
> https://ooktech-tw.gitlab.io/plugins/mousey/
>
> The Relations plugin lets you do things like set up family trees for more 
> interesting (or if you want, non-traditional) family trees, or roads 
> between towns or any number of things. It lets you set up a graph with 
> directed or undirected edges if you want it in graph theory terms. See the 
> example for what that means.
> No, it isn't graphical.
> https://ooktech-tw.gitlab.io/plugins/relations/
>
> I probably have a few more things that I haven't bothered to release yet, 
> I am looking through my stuff.
>

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[tw5] Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] file-backups plugin will be updated at: March 20th - Browser restart required!

[TonyM]

Mark,

Perhaps you understand the following but for clarity.

Marios solution is one of the available ones, and takes a reduced 
dependencies approach buy working with the permissions that the browser 
gives to a tiddlywiki file. Your desire to customise and change folders is 
understandable but by its nature incompatible with such customisations.

For example I do not use Marios worthy solution personally, because with my 
computer use, I must be able chose to where I download things.

If you want to discuss other want to discuss other strategies just ask. I 
expect you are aware of the following; All from my Windows position;

   - Timimi
   - tw-receiver on php
   - TiddlyServer
   - TiddlyDesktop
   - Bob/Bobeexe
   - TWexe 
   - Others

Regards
Tony

On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 8:07:53 AM UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Ok, keep in mind that I'm talking about setting the download directory to 
> a root directory, like C:\.
>
> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 12:59:21 PM UTC-7, PMario wrote:
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 6:55:45 PM UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> I was having trouble with one specific file. file-backups wanted to 
>>> revert to a "save-as" dialog.
>>>
>>
>> Please check your browser option: "Always ask you where to save files" .. 
>> It should be _not_ checked.
>>
>
> Right -- in fact you can't set a download directory to C:\ without 
> changing this. So it has never been set to "Always ask..." in any of the 
> tests that I have mentioned.
>   
>
> After the save, a green banner opens, that tells you, you need to open the 
>> "newly" saved TW from the browser downloads folder. 
>> This is the location where file-backups can save to. 
>>
>>
> I've not seen the green banner. Maybe it flashes by?
>  
>
>> On another issue, what path can you give fb to tell it to save in an 
>>> absolute location?
>>>
>>
>> That's not possible (because of browser security concerns) and it's not 
>> needed.
>>
>
> Ok, I just realized that I can use ../.. to back out of the current 
> directory. So that works. I don't need to send the backups to a different 
> physical drive. Just one single point where they're not part of the weekly 
> backup plan.
>
>  
>>
>> Every path I try gives me the red outline.
>>>
>>
>> The "red" dialogue is opened, if a TW file from the same location and 
>> name, is opened in 2 or more browser tabs. 
>> If 2 tabs edit the same file, this can lead to data loss. That's why 
>> there is the red banner.
>>
>
> No, I'm not talking about the red dialogue. I'm talking about the download 
> path directory. It gets outlined with red when you try to put an absolute 
> directory in. But I see now that I can use ../.. to select some other 
> directory, so I think it's going to work.
>   
>
>> There are many reasons a person might not want to save in the same 
>>> directory as the original file.
>>>
>>
>> *If you want to get a download dialogue everytime* you save the wiki, 
>> you shouldn't use addOns at all. They are all designed to overwrite the 
>> existing file. That's the only reason, why we created them.
>>
>>  
> I wasn't talking about the original source file. I was talking about the 
> files in twbackups. I want them to save somewhere else. I don't want them 
> to save in the original files' directory or sub-directory because that will 
> cause more maintenance headaches.
>
> For instance, tiddlydesktop has a backup, and I just set it to send the 
> backups to a directory on a drive that has lots of free space. I don't have 
> to worry about remembering to delete the backup set before doing a physical 
> backup.
>  
>
>> As far as I know, syncthing only syncs files (or even segments of files) 
>> that have been changed, which doesn't happen too often for the eg. D, E, F 
>> .. backups of file-backups. So only parts of the "original" and the backups 
>> actually go over the wire.
>>
>>
> I only know that syncthing takes a long time to run. I think it's because 
> it has to evaluate all those files and compare them with the other file 
> system. So the more files it has to compare, the longer the process takes.
>
> Thanks for your time. I think the problem with saving had something to do 
> with the backups, so if it happens again I'll just clean out the twbackups 
> directory for that file.
>
> Thanks!
>  
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddly Extension for Firefox 57?

[TonyM]

Alex,

That's good, I just know that has being the mistake of many. 

Please consider starting a new thread on this problem because it is clearly 
and exception to the old TiddlyFox problems. 

You may find it useful if you have not already to start with a fresh 
tiddlywiki and see if you can experience the almost seamless use of Timimi, 
or move to one of a number of node solutions, or TW-Reciever on php. Once 
you have experienced the "Modern" you will have a better understanding and 
it will be easier to address a specific wiki failing to save.

Portableapps.com has a portable firefox if the problem could be in your 
install of firefox.

Regards
Tony

On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 10:04:56 AM UTC+11, Alex S. Garcia wrote:
>
> > "save changes" links under Admin Tools must be within TiddlyWiki not 
> > Browser menus! 
>
> Browser menus? I have no idea what you're talking about. 
>
> Admin Tools is in the right-side menu within TiddlyWiki. 
>
>
>
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[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki and Coronavirus: March 2020 [Continued...]

[TonyM]

Folks,

I am a modern sceptic and this demands I be sceptical or all claims until I 
have evidence. Many of you raise serious concerns about Government or 
Business responses in the current situation. I also refuse to claim a 
specific left/right conservative/progressive ideology, because neither 
prepackaged ideologies, always respond to evidence. 

My sceptical brain also recognises a serious need to respond to this 
pandemic based on science. This science and history itself points to a need 
to have the population respond appropriately and consistently, and there is 
no other organisation than the Government in most countries, who can apply 
rules to every member of the population, all be it temporary.

Pandemics and disease in general, is by its nature about populations, we 
don't normally think of our self as part of a population we tend to 
restrict this to domestic farm animals and species in nature, or bacteria 
etc... It is not common for many of us to consider how we as an individual 
contribute towards the outcomes of the populations we live in. 

We should always be critical and sceptical, but we can "walk and chew gum" 
at the same time. We each need to recognise how we may need to temporarily 
put aside personal freedoms, in the interest of our whole societies.  I am 
however concerned that healthy scepticism can quickly turn to cynicism by 
the untrained, That may lead to unsubstantiated conspiracy theories, such 
"backlash approaches" could undermine any evidence based strategies and put 
at risk a large part of our populations.

Having being in the service of uncovering false claims, debunking 
conspiracy theorists, alt-med and anti-vax in society and the community, I 
can assure you if we do not dispute non-evidence based claims, from day one 
"false beliefs", by a less informed population can develop like a "pandemic 
of false ideas". As a responsible member of the Human race, we need to 
remain vigilant not only of others ideas, but the quality of our own ideas.

In Sydney we saw 20 and 30 somethings gathering in large numbers at the 
beach, big BBQ's and packed nightclubs, either ill informed or feeling 
immortal, when they should have known better, these things are now banned 
because individuals did not take responsibility, had they done so, these 
bans would not be in place (at least yet).

There is a direct relationship between how much individuals take individual 
responsibility and the need for the community/Government to take 
responsibility, if individuals do not. Increased freedom is a result of 
increased self responsibility. Freedom is useless to the dead.

Exercising one's individual freedom, to suspend some freedoms temporarily, 
in the interest of our communities, is the "measure" of good and 
intelligent people.

If humans wish to claim they are exceptional, and somewhat above raw in 
tooth and claw nature then, it is their own nature they need to question, 
and stand above.

Nature/the Universe/Gods have their laws and they are ever present, we will 
be victims of our own hubris if we are not careful. 

End of "informed rant"
Tony




On Sunday, March 22, 2020 at 6:12:47 AM UTC+11, Mohammad wrote:
>
> This thread continues the discussion of Tiddlywiki and Coronavirus: 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/IGrE-fslX84/PB-8xcFmAgAJ
>
> This is to share information and see how we can use Tiddlywiki in this 
> situation as a tool to help others.
> The original thread got around 800 views and more than 104 posts.
>
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Re: [tw5] Bug or feature in Tiddler Manager. tag do not disapear ..

[TonyM]

Jeremy,

Since I don't use the tag manager much I did not notice this.


   - This would be a nice model to enable the use of MRU's "Most Recently 
   used" elsewhere. 
   - I will build my own things following this idea

It is an example of "typical" requirements that tiddlywiki users and 
designers may have, so a generic solution may be nice. Perhaps a macro or 
widget one provides with a "state-tiddler" and value, and a matching way to 
enlist the values. This could be added into the select widget actions as 
well.

Just food for thought

Tony


On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 11:21:10 PM UTC+11, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> The recent tags are stored in the tiddler $:/config/Manager/RecentTags, 
> and you can just delete it to get rid of it. There’s a limit of 12 tags at 
> the moment, which is hardcoded in $:/Manager/ItemSidebar/Tags
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
> On 24 Mar 2020, at 12:11, vpl > wrote:
>
> Thanks a lot Jeremy for this answer. 
> Any way to clean this cash or configure it's size ?
>
> Vpl
>
> Le mardi 24 mars 2020 09:09:34 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston a écrit :
>>
>> The tiddler manager remembers the last few tags that have been used, and 
>> displays them as unchecked checkboxes. It makes it easier to add the same 
>> tag to a bunch of tiddlers in turn.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy.
>>
>> --
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>> jer...@jermolene.com
>> https://jermolene.com
>>
>> On 24 Mar 2020, at 07:55, vpl  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> Here is how to reproduce simply the test. I've used an empty TW5 freshly 
>> downloaded from the Web site
>>
>> - create tiddler "test-1" with tag "tag-1"
>> - create tiddler "test-2"
>> - in the tiddler-Manager assign "tag-1" to tiddler "test-2"
>> - in the tiddler-Manager un-assign "tag-1" from tiddler "test-2"
>> - remove completely tiddler "test-1"
>> - Open the tag-manager
>>- There is no tag at all listed. Fine
>> - Open the tiddler-manager and select "test-2"
>> *   - The tag "tag-1" is still There*
>>
>>
>> Looks strange to me as "tag-1" is not assigned any more to any tiddler 
>> (as the tag manager shows). Why do we keep it in the tiddler manager ?
>>
>> Thanks for your help
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Vincent
>>
>>
>>
>> Le mardi 24 mars 2020 06:54:30 UTC+1, A Gloom a écrit :
>>>
>>> I tried ytour button and it wasn't removing the tag
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddly Extension for Firefox 57?

[Alex S. Garcia]

> "save changes" links under Admin Tools must be within TiddlyWiki not
> Browser menus!

Browser menus? I have no idea what you're talking about.

Admin Tools is in the right-side menu within TiddlyWiki.



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Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddly Extension for Firefox 57?

[TonyM]

To be clear,

"save changes" links under Admin Tools must be within TiddlyWiki not 
Browser menus!

Regards
Tony

On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 5:09:16 AM UTC+11, Alex S. Garcia wrote:
>
> >- yes, Timimi works with it in modern FireFox (with several minor 
> >issues, but generally it works even better than TiddlyFox) 
>
> I just tried Timimi. Though installation seemed to work (got the "Hello 
> there 
> / Have a great day" message) I still get an error message when I try to 
> save 
> changes to a TW file. 
>
> I removed all other TW related plugins to make sure there weren't any 
> conflicts, but no luck. 
>
> Maybe I'm doing this wrong though... how do you save? I'm trying to use 
> the 
> usual "save changes" links under Admin Tools, should I use something else? 
>
> Oh and Yakov, BTW, I tried to post about my saving issues on the TWC list 
> back 
> in December, but my mail did not go through because the list is set up as 
> a 
> forum rather than a mailing-list. 
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[tw5] Re: Radiobutton as Makro

[TonyM]

Gerald,

If the Makrofile/tiddler containing the macro definition is tagged 
with $:/tags/Macro then <> will be available in any tiddler.

However an alternative is to not define it as a macro but put your code in 
a tiddler lets call it makrotemplate
then where you want to use it in any tiddler, 
`{{||makrotemplate}}` the `||` says use the currentTiddler when 
transcluding.

As long as a macro - or a template is designed to operate on the 
currentTiddler it is easy to include it in any tiddler.

I hope this helps without giving too much information

Tony

On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 4:36:06 AM UTC+11, Gerald Weis wrote:
>
> hello Tony,
>
> then i have the radiobuttonmatrix showing in the Makrofile
>
> but not in the tiddler where i want to use it.
>
>  
>
>
> Am Dienstag, 24. März 2020 02:47:49 UTC+1 schrieb TonyM:
>>
>> Does this not work?
>>
>> \define Makro()
>> 
>>
>> >
>>
>> 
>> <>
>> 
>> <$radio field="modifier" value="11">wenig Fett/dünn<
>> /$radio>
>> <$radio
>>  field="modifier" value="12">Übergewicht/ zu
>> hoherFettgehalt 
>> <$radio field="modifier" value="13">Adipös/fettleibig <
>> /$radio>
>> 
>> 
>> <$radio
>>  field="modifier" value="21">geringes
>> Gewicht/dünn
>> <$radio field="modifier" value="22">Norm
>> <$radio
>>  field="modifier" value="23">hohes
>> Gewicht/muskulös
>> 
>> 
>> <$radio
>>  field="modifier"
>> value="31">fettarm/dünn
>> <$radio
>>  field="modifier"
>> value="32">fettarm/muskulös
>> <$radio
>>  field="modifier" value="33">hohes
>> Gewichtmuskulös
>> 
>> 
>> \end
>> <>
>>
>> I cant read code very will with another language in it, but I am curious 
>> why this updates the modifier field tested on tiddlywiki.com
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>>
>> On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 11:52:31 PM UTC+11, Gerald Weis wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Friends,
>>>
>>> the code in the box works.
>>>
>>> But i want it to have as Makro
>>>
>>> is it possible that can do? It must to works in a lot of tiddler with 
>>> diverse values.
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> 
>>> <>
>>> 
>>> <$radio field="modifier" value="11">wenig Fett/dünn
>>> 
>>> <$radio
>>>  field="modifier" value="12">Übergewicht/ zu 
>>> hoherFettgehalt 
>>> <$radio field="modifier" value="13">Adipös/fettleibig 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> <$radio
>>>  field="modifier" value="21">geringes 
>>> Gewicht/dünn
>>> <$radio field="modifier" value="22">Norm
>>> <$radio
>>>  field="modifier" value="23">hohes 
>>> Gewicht/muskulös
>>> 
>>> 
>>> <$radio
>>>  field="modifier" 
>>> value="31">fettarm/dünn
>>> <$radio
>>>  field="modifier" 
>>> value="32">fettarm/muskulös
>>> <$radio
>>>  field="modifier" value="33">hohes 
>>> Gewichtmuskulös
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>>
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[tw5] Re: Creating tiddlers and programmatically modifying them?

[TonyM]

Flbibles,

I did not comprehend "nested" pragma, but* thank you *for pointing out it 
works.

because I did not realise this I started looking at other methods, however 
I can return to your suggestion now.

best wishes
Tony



On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 11:49:11 PM UTC+11, Flibbles wrote:
>
> Why doesn't it work?
>
> I'm unsure whether you want $(name)$ to be replaced during creation, or if 
> you want to copy `\define code-tiddler() $(name)$` exactly as is, but 
> either way, you can include pragma inside the body macro.
>
> \define body()
> \define code-tiddler() $(value)$
>
> Dear $(name)$,
>
> I write to inform you that your pet, $(pet)$ has filed for emancipation.
> \end
>
>
> $(value)$ here will remain as-is unless `value` is defined. If it IS 
> defined, it'll replace, so you can get either way you want it, I'd think.
>
> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 8:35:19 AM UTC-4, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Fibbles,
>>
>> I have just realized this won't work in the tiddler I create needs to 
>> contain a define
>> \define code-tiddler() $(name)$
>>
>> There are many applications it will, but perhaps not this one.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 1:19:05 PM UTC+11, Flibbles wrote:
>>>
>>> This would be outside the scope of Relink, but  there are ways to 
>>> programmatically fill out a generated tiddler.
>>>
>>> \define body()
>>> Dear $(name)$,
>>>
>>> I write to inform you that your pet, $(pet)$ has filed for emancipation.
>>> \end
>>>
>>> \define createButton()
>>> <$button tooltip="Create new letter" aria-label="new letter" class=<>> config-toolbar-class>>>
>>> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" title=<> text=<<
>>> body>> />
>>> <$list filter="[prefix[yes]]">
>>> {{$:/core/images/new-button}}
>>> 
>>> <$list filter="[prefix[yes]]">
>>> <$text text="new letter" />
>>> 
>>> 
>>> \end
>>>
>>>
>>> <$set name="title" value="New Letter">
>>> <$set name="name" value="Wilson">
>>> <$set name="pet" value="snuffles">
>>> <>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> This will create a new tiddler. with a variable title, name, and pet.
>>>
>>> -Flibbles
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 9:20:52 PM UTC-4, TonyM wrote:

 Folks,

 I have a little project where it would be helpful if I could create a 
 tiddler from a template (for its body) but then replace various content 
 within the text or fields with different values.

 For example what if the template included ##name## then I had a macro 
 that would replace in the body of the new tiddler

- ##name## with Tony
- ##icon## with {{<>||$:/core/images/info-button}}
- etc...

 I imagine if a set of such changes could be triggered by a button and 
 an action widget all the better.

 I have other ways to achieve this but it would surprise me if the code 
 was not already available somewhere.

 Any leads would be appreciated

 Regards
 Tony

>>>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddler translate by Google button

[Joshua Fontany]

Nice idea!!

On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 5:49:00 AM UTC-7, A Gloom wrote:
>
> A way to translate tiddler content by leveraging Google translate-- button 
> opens Google Translate in a separate window prefilled with instructions 
> that can be translated -- to instruct fo simply paste (control-V) which 
> will insert the tiddler's text (which was loaded into clipboard by the 
> translate button) so the tiddler's text can be translated quickly and 
> easily in 3 steps-- click button, select language to translate to, read 
> translated instruction and paste which will translate the tiddlers 
> contents.  A macro is planned
>
> *The copy to clipboard param can also be a macro with the text to 
> translate if you only wish to translate a portion of the tiddlers text*
>
> <$button message="tm-copy-to-clipboard" param={{!!text}} tooltip='Use 
> Google Translate to translate tiddler and instructions'>
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-open-external-window" $param="
> https://www.google.com/search?&q=translate%3A+%22paste+%28control-V%29+to+insert+instructions%22&oq=translate%3A+%22paste+%28control-V%29+to+insert+instructions%22
> " windowName="_translate" windowFeatures="height=400, width=600"/>
> TRANSLATE en-US > {{$:/info/browser/language}}
> 
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[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki and Coronavirus: March 2020 [Continued...]

[HansWobbe]

Birthe

I have had many encounters with Insurance companies throughout my life; 
none of them pleasant or profitable.

The most irritating was being declined because I took a test that proved I 
did not have a "prior" condition.  Turned out that taking the test was 
deemed to an "abnormal" act.  As a result I was declined.  The decline was 
noted in a database that is shared by all Insurance companies.  Being 
declined by one meant declined by all.

At this time, my only use of Insurance is for Business Succession planning 
which the Insurance monopoly lobby offers as an alternative that reduces 
taxation by government at time of death.

Fortunately, I am now in a position to be "self-insuring" for the majority 
of health needs.

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[tw5] Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] file-backups plugin will be updated at: March 20th - Browser restart required!

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Ok, keep in mind that I'm talking about setting the download directory to a 
root directory, like C:\.

On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 12:59:21 PM UTC-7, PMario wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 6:55:45 PM UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> I was having trouble with one specific file. file-backups wanted to 
>> revert to a "save-as" dialog.
>>
>
> Please check your browser option: "Always ask you where to save files" .. 
> It should be _not_ checked.
>

Right -- in fact you can't set a download directory to C:\ without changing 
this. So it has never been set to "Always ask..." in any of the tests that 
I have mentioned.
  

After the save, a green banner opens, that tells you, you need to open the 
> "newly" saved TW from the browser downloads folder. 
> This is the location where file-backups can save to. 
>
>
I've not seen the green banner. Maybe it flashes by?
 

> On another issue, what path can you give fb to tell it to save in an 
>> absolute location?
>>
>
> That's not possible (because of browser security concerns) and it's not 
> needed.
>

Ok, I just realized that I can use ../.. to back out of the current 
directory. So that works. I don't need to send the backups to a different 
physical drive. Just one single point where they're not part of the weekly 
backup plan.

 
>
> Every path I try gives me the red outline.
>>
>
> The "red" dialogue is opened, if a TW file from the same location and 
> name, is opened in 2 or more browser tabs. 
> If 2 tabs edit the same file, this can lead to data loss. That's why there 
> is the red banner.
>

No, I'm not talking about the red dialogue. I'm talking about the download 
path directory. It gets outlined with red when you try to put an absolute 
directory in. But I see now that I can use ../.. to select some other 
directory, so I think it's going to work.
  

> There are many reasons a person might not want to save in the same 
>> directory as the original file.
>>
>
> *If you want to get a download dialogue everytime* you save the wiki, you 
> shouldn't use addOns at all. They are all designed to overwrite the 
> existing file. That's the only reason, why we created them.
>
>  
I wasn't talking about the original source file. I was talking about the 
files in twbackups. I want them to save somewhere else. I don't want them 
to save in the original files' directory or sub-directory because that will 
cause more maintenance headaches.

For instance, tiddlydesktop has a backup, and I just set it to send the 
backups to a directory on a drive that has lots of free space. I don't have 
to worry about remembering to delete the backup set before doing a physical 
backup.
 

> As far as I know, syncthing only syncs files (or even segments of files) 
> that have been changed, which doesn't happen too often for the eg. D, E, F 
> .. backups of file-backups. So only parts of the "original" and the backups 
> actually go over the wire.
>
>
I only know that syncthing takes a long time to run. I think it's because 
it has to evaluate all those files and compare them with the other file 
system. So the more files it has to compare, the longer the process takes.

Thanks for your time. I think the problem with saving had something to do 
with the backups, so if it happens again I'll just clean out the twbackups 
directory for that file.

Thanks!
 

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[tw5] [TW5] Two plugins, Mousey - a mouse widget like the keyboard widget, and Relations - track relationships between things

[Jed Carty]

I made these a while ago after being asked for them and forgot to actually 
post the results.

The Mousey plugin lets you put actions on mouse events. Click, double 
click, right click, mouse down, mouse up, enter and leave are supported. 
See the examples for what all that means.
https://ooktech-tw.gitlab.io/plugins/mousey/

The Relations plugin lets you do things like set up family trees for more 
interesting (or if you want, non-traditional) family trees, or roads 
between towns or any number of things. It lets you set up a graph with 
directed or undirected edges if you want it in graph theory terms. See the 
example for what that means.
No, it isn't graphical.
https://ooktech-tw.gitlab.io/plugins/relations/

I probably have a few more things that I haven't bothered to release yet, I 
am looking through my stuff.

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Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddly Extension for Firefox 57?

[Vayira]

I'm experimenting with MainTiddlyServer as an option as it will never
depend on browsers & extensions etc and works locally and remotely with a
single 70k file. https://yakovl.github.io/MainTiddlyServer/index.html
It works like a dream on my remote server. On my local server I got 2 kinds
of error messages, but because I understand php I was able to fix them.
They didn't affect functionality however.

To run it locally you need php installed. I've opted for installing php
alone & using its internal server so that I don't need to run apache.

On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 at 14:09, Alex S. Garcia  wrote:

> >- yes, Timimi works with it in modern FireFox (with several minor
> >issues, but generally it works even better than TiddlyFox)
>
> I just tried Timimi. Though installation seemed to work (got the "Hello
> there
> / Have a great day" message) I still get an error message when I try to
> save
> changes to a TW file.
>
> I removed all other TW related plugins to make sure there weren't any
> conflicts, but no luck.
>
> Maybe I'm doing this wrong though... how do you save? I'm trying to use
> the
> usual "save changes" links under Admin Tools, should I use something else?
>
> Oh and Yakov, BTW, I tried to post about my saving issues on the TWC list
> back
> in December, but my mail did not go through because the list is set up as
> a
> forum rather than a mailing-list.
>
>
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[tw5] Re: External images on Google Drive

[Mohammad]

Mark,

What I wrote is to directly display an image from Google Drive!
There is no need to use the plugin for the example I gave in the above post.

SRF88 can try that to see if the link to GDrive is correctly given or not!



On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 11:16:35 PM UTC+4:30, Mark S. wrote:
>
> What? That's all it does? Create _canonical_uri ? I thought it might add 
> some additional info goo gel wanted.
>
> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 11:43:12 AM UTC-7, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> SRF88,
>>
>>1. create a new tiddler
>>2. add a field called: _canonical_uri
>>3. copy and paste the sharelable link of your image on Google Drive 
>>as field value
>>4. save and see what happen
>>
>> The plugin seems to create such a tiddler. See this instruction if you 
>> failed: 
>> https://support.awesome-table.com/hc/en-us/articles/115002196665-Display-images-from-Google-Drive
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 10:33:23 PM UTC+4:30, SRF88 wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm on Mac.
>>>
>>> Everything happened as per the download instructions. Though when I 
>>> tried it again I realised that the file had been given a .txt extension. I 
>>> deleted the additional extension and when I dragged and dropped I was 
>>> prompted to save and refresh, which I did. The plugin is now in the plugin 
>>> tab - perfect.
>>>
>>> I created an image using a 'shareable link' but I just get a '?' icon 
>>> instead of my image. I will see if I can work this out.
>>>
>>> Thank you for all of your help!
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 5:06:07 PM UTC, Mark S. wrote:

 Did the tid download, per the instructions, do you see it in your 
 downloads directory?

 Did you drag the file again, and drop it when the green bar appeared? 
 Did you see the green bar?

 After your dragged and dropped, did a tiddler appear called $:/Import?

 In that tiddler, did you click on "Import" ?

 I forgot to ask -- are you on Windows? 

 On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 9:52:47 AM UTC-7, SRF88 wrote:
>
> No it is not.
>
> I know I've done something wrong here - sorry.
>
> Your help is much appreciated.
>
> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 4:39:15 PM UTC, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> When you go into settings, plugins, is the new plugin listed?
>>  (Creates External image tiddler from google drive file link)
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 9:16:50 AM UTC-7, SRF88 wrote:
>>>
>>> Thank you for your quick response Mark
>>>
>>> I followed your instructions using an empty TW. A new icon did not 
>>> appear in the tools tab?
>>>
>>> I will make sure to use shared images on GD.
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 3:16:08 PM UTC, Mark S. wrote:

 I think that plugin just helps you wrap shared images appropriately.

 To download from GH, click on the "tiddlers" folder. Then click on 
 the $__plugins_zimiarh_extimg.tid link. Right click on the "Raw" 
 button and then select "save link as" to download the tiddler.

 Find the downloaded tiddler and drag and drop into your TW file (a 
 green bar should appear as you drag, that tells you it's ok to drop).

 Import the tiddler. Save your TW file. Reload. A new icon appears 
 over in the sidebar, that will help you create links to SHARED images 
 on 
 gdrive.

 HTH

 On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 7:48:07 AM UTC-7, SRF88 wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> First of all, apologies for the simple question but I am quite far 
> out of my comfort zone here.
>
> I have been using TiddlyDesktop for a while, I use a lot of photos 
> to illustrate my note taking so I use inks to external photos. To 
> make the 
> TiddlyWiki more accessible I have experimented with moving it to 
> Google 
> Drive, this has been successful using Tiddly Drive BUT i cannot 
> figure out 
> how to link my images.
>
> I have come across this plugin that might help 
> https://github.com/zimiarh/tiddlywiki-external-image but have no 
> idea how to install it!
>
> Or is there a more simple way of linking external images on Google 
> Drive?
>
> Sorry if this question has been answered before, I had a search 
> and could not find the answer.
>
> Any help would be much appreciated.
>
> Sam
>


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[tw5] Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] file-backups plugin will be updated at: March 20th - Browser restart required!

[PMario]

On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 6:55:45 PM UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>
> I was having trouble with one specific file. file-backups wanted to revert 
> to a "save-as" dialog.
>

Please check your browser option: "Always ask you where to save files" .. 
It should be _not_ checked.
 

> I finally got it to save by opening from file explorer. This gave the fb 
> warning that there were two versions open. Then I could use the 2nd version 
> and save. I'm thinking there was some background conflict with backups, but 
> dunno. There is some issue, sometimes, which I know is incredibly vague.
>

This should only happen, if you open a file from eg: C:\Documents and want 
to save it back to c:\Documents

Since web-extensions can only directly save to C:\Downloads folder *_and_ 
subfolders*, the dialogue saves it there. 

After the save, a green banner opens, that tells you, you need to open the 
"newly" saved TW from the browser downloads folder. 
This is the location where file-backups can save to. 

On another issue, what path can you give fb to tell it to save in an 
> absolute location?
>

That's not possible (because of browser security concerns) and it's not 
needed.

 - Open the OS file explorer and move your TW into the "*downloads*" folder 
or a *subdirectory*
 - Double click - to open it 
 - The save will automatically save it back to the subdirectory, if it was 
opened from there. 
 

> Every path I try gives me the red outline.
>

The "red" dialogue is opened, if a TW file from the same location and name, 
is opened in 2 or more browser tabs. 
If 2 tabs edit the same file, this can lead to data loss. That's why there 
is the red banner.
 

> There are many reasons a person might not want to save in the same 
> directory as the original file.
>

*If you want to get a download dialogue everytime* you save the wiki, you 
shouldn't use addOns at all. They are all designed to overwrite the 
existing file. That's the only reason, why we created them.

*You can use the browser default save mechanism. *

 - Open browser "options" settings
 - scroll down to "Always ask you where to save files" 
   - activate it 

And the browser will start to ask you, where you want to save the file, 
everytime you change something.
I personally think this is annoying if the TW "autosave" option is active. 
 

> For one thing, it means the "real" backup to a separate drive will be 
> longer. 
>

Please have a closer look at the file-backups homepage 
 and see, how the "Tower of Hanoi" 
backup mechanism works. 
There is a maximum number of backup files, which will be created + rarely 
created "out of order" backups, if a new file name is identified.

I personally think, it gives us a nice balance between the number of backup 
files and
the "time-span" those backups can cover.

Also see: 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backup_rotation_scheme#Tower_of_Hanoi

The working drive may have less capacity than the backup drive.
>

That's true but most OS systems have a possibility to transparently 
"compress" subdirectories on the OS level. Which uses about 350kByte for 
empty.html and 1.9MByte for a tiddlywik.com like TW.
 

> There is more overhead when running dropbox or syncthing.
>

That's true but you don't need to sync the backup directory for dropbox, 
since it brings its own versioning system for the "original" file. There is 
no need to backup the backups. This will unnecessarily increase the used 
disk-space which has to be paid. 

As far as I know, syncthing only syncs files (or even segments of files) 
that have been changed, which doesn't happen too often for the eg. D, E, F 
.. backups of file-backups. So only parts of the "original" and the backups 
actually go over the wire.

Again - Have a look how the Tower of Hanoi mechanism works. 

have fun!
mario
 

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[tw5] Re: External images on Google Drive

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

What? That's all it does? Create _canonical_uri ? I thought it might add 
some additional info goo gel wanted.

On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 11:43:12 AM UTC-7, Mohammad wrote:
>
> SRF88,
>
>1. create a new tiddler
>2. add a field called: _canonical_uri
>3. copy and paste the sharelable link of your image on Google Drive as 
>field value
>4. save and see what happen
>
> The plugin seems to create such a tiddler. See this instruction if you 
> failed: 
> https://support.awesome-table.com/hc/en-us/articles/115002196665-Display-images-from-Google-Drive
>
> --Mohammad
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 10:33:23 PM UTC+4:30, SRF88 wrote:
>>
>> I'm on Mac.
>>
>> Everything happened as per the download instructions. Though when I tried 
>> it again I realised that the file had been given a .txt extension. I 
>> deleted the additional extension and when I dragged and dropped I was 
>> prompted to save and refresh, which I did. The plugin is now in the plugin 
>> tab - perfect.
>>
>> I created an image using a 'shareable link' but I just get a '?' icon 
>> instead of my image. I will see if I can work this out.
>>
>> Thank you for all of your help!
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 5:06:07 PM UTC, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> Did the tid download, per the instructions, do you see it in your 
>>> downloads directory?
>>>
>>> Did you drag the file again, and drop it when the green bar appeared? 
>>> Did you see the green bar?
>>>
>>> After your dragged and dropped, did a tiddler appear called $:/Import?
>>>
>>> In that tiddler, did you click on "Import" ?
>>>
>>> I forgot to ask -- are you on Windows? 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 9:52:47 AM UTC-7, SRF88 wrote:

 No it is not.

 I know I've done something wrong here - sorry.

 Your help is much appreciated.

 On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 4:39:15 PM UTC, Mark S. wrote:
>
> When you go into settings, plugins, is the new plugin listed?
>  (Creates External image tiddler from google drive file link)
>
> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 9:16:50 AM UTC-7, SRF88 wrote:
>>
>> Thank you for your quick response Mark
>>
>> I followed your instructions using an empty TW. A new icon did not 
>> appear in the tools tab?
>>
>> I will make sure to use shared images on GD.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 3:16:08 PM UTC, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> I think that plugin just helps you wrap shared images appropriately.
>>>
>>> To download from GH, click on the "tiddlers" folder. Then click on 
>>> the $__plugins_zimiarh_extimg.tid link. Right click on the "Raw" 
>>> button and then select "save link as" to download the tiddler.
>>>
>>> Find the downloaded tiddler and drag and drop into your TW file (a 
>>> green bar should appear as you drag, that tells you it's ok to drop).
>>>
>>> Import the tiddler. Save your TW file. Reload. A new icon appears 
>>> over in the sidebar, that will help you create links to SHARED images 
>>> on 
>>> gdrive.
>>>
>>> HTH
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 7:48:07 AM UTC-7, SRF88 wrote:

 Hi all,

 First of all, apologies for the simple question but I am quite far 
 out of my comfort zone here.

 I have been using TiddlyDesktop for a while, I use a lot of photos 
 to illustrate my note taking so I use inks to external photos. To make 
 the 
 TiddlyWiki more accessible I have experimented with moving it to 
 Google 
 Drive, this has been successful using Tiddly Drive BUT i cannot figure 
 out 
 how to link my images.

 I have come across this plugin that might help 
 https://github.com/zimiarh/tiddlywiki-external-image but have no 
 idea how to install it!

 Or is there a more simple way of linking external images on Google 
 Drive?

 Sorry if this question has been answered before, I had a search and 
 could not find the answer.

 Any help would be much appreciated.

 Sam

>>>

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[tw5] Re: External images on Google Drive

[Mohammad]

SRF88,

copy and paste the sharelable link of your image on Google Drive as field 
value



On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 11:13:12 PM UTC+4:30, Mohammad wrote:
>
> SRF88,
>
>1. create a new tiddler
>2. add a field called: _canonical_uri
>3. copy and paste the sharelable link of your image on Google Drive as 
>field value
>4. save and see what happen
>
> The plugin seems to create such a tiddler. See this instruction if you 
> failed: 
> https://support.awesome-table.com/hc/en-us/articles/115002196665-Display-images-from-Google-Drive
>
> --Mohammad
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 10:33:23 PM UTC+4:30, SRF88 wrote:
>>
>> I'm on Mac.
>>
>> Everything happened as per the download instructions. Though when I tried 
>> it again I realised that the file had been given a .txt extension. I 
>> deleted the additional extension and when I dragged and dropped I was 
>> prompted to save and refresh, which I did. The plugin is now in the plugin 
>> tab - perfect.
>>
>> I created an image using a 'shareable link' but I just get a '?' icon 
>> instead of my image. I will see if I can work this out.
>>
>> Thank you for all of your help!
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 5:06:07 PM UTC, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> Did the tid download, per the instructions, do you see it in your 
>>> downloads directory?
>>>
>>> Did you drag the file again, and drop it when the green bar appeared? 
>>> Did you see the green bar?
>>>
>>> After your dragged and dropped, did a tiddler appear called $:/Import?
>>>
>>> In that tiddler, did you click on "Import" ?
>>>
>>> I forgot to ask -- are you on Windows? 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 9:52:47 AM UTC-7, SRF88 wrote:

 No it is not.

 I know I've done something wrong here - sorry.

 Your help is much appreciated.

 On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 4:39:15 PM UTC, Mark S. wrote:
>
> When you go into settings, plugins, is the new plugin listed?
>  (Creates External image tiddler from google drive file link)
>
> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 9:16:50 AM UTC-7, SRF88 wrote:
>>
>> Thank you for your quick response Mark
>>
>> I followed your instructions using an empty TW. A new icon did not 
>> appear in the tools tab?
>>
>> I will make sure to use shared images on GD.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 3:16:08 PM UTC, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> I think that plugin just helps you wrap shared images appropriately.
>>>
>>> To download from GH, click on the "tiddlers" folder. Then click on 
>>> the $__plugins_zimiarh_extimg.tid link. Right click on the "Raw" 
>>> button and then select "save link as" to download the tiddler.
>>>
>>> Find the downloaded tiddler and drag and drop into your TW file (a 
>>> green bar should appear as you drag, that tells you it's ok to drop).
>>>
>>> Import the tiddler. Save your TW file. Reload. A new icon appears 
>>> over in the sidebar, that will help you create links to SHARED images 
>>> on 
>>> gdrive.
>>>
>>> HTH
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 7:48:07 AM UTC-7, SRF88 wrote:

 Hi all,

 First of all, apologies for the simple question but I am quite far 
 out of my comfort zone here.

 I have been using TiddlyDesktop for a while, I use a lot of photos 
 to illustrate my note taking so I use inks to external photos. To make 
 the 
 TiddlyWiki more accessible I have experimented with moving it to 
 Google 
 Drive, this has been successful using Tiddly Drive BUT i cannot figure 
 out 
 how to link my images.

 I have come across this plugin that might help 
 https://github.com/zimiarh/tiddlywiki-external-image but have no 
 idea how to install it!

 Or is there a more simple way of linking external images on Google 
 Drive?

 Sorry if this question has been answered before, I had a search and 
 could not find the answer.

 Any help would be much appreciated.

 Sam

>>>

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[tw5] Re: External images on Google Drive

[Mohammad]

SRF88,

   1. create a new tiddler
   2. add a field called: _canonical_uri
   3. copy and paste the sharelable link of your image on Google Drive
   4. save and see what happen

The plugin seems to create such a tiddler. See this instruction if you 
failed: 
https://support.awesome-table.com/hc/en-us/articles/115002196665-Display-images-from-Google-Drive

--Mohammad


On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 10:33:23 PM UTC+4:30, SRF88 wrote:
>
> I'm on Mac.
>
> Everything happened as per the download instructions. Though when I tried 
> it again I realised that the file had been given a .txt extension. I 
> deleted the additional extension and when I dragged and dropped I was 
> prompted to save and refresh, which I did. The plugin is now in the plugin 
> tab - perfect.
>
> I created an image using a 'shareable link' but I just get a '?' icon 
> instead of my image. I will see if I can work this out.
>
> Thank you for all of your help!
>
> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 5:06:07 PM UTC, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> Did the tid download, per the instructions, do you see it in your 
>> downloads directory?
>>
>> Did you drag the file again, and drop it when the green bar appeared? Did 
>> you see the green bar?
>>
>> After your dragged and dropped, did a tiddler appear called $:/Import?
>>
>> In that tiddler, did you click on "Import" ?
>>
>> I forgot to ask -- are you on Windows? 
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 9:52:47 AM UTC-7, SRF88 wrote:
>>>
>>> No it is not.
>>>
>>> I know I've done something wrong here - sorry.
>>>
>>> Your help is much appreciated.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 4:39:15 PM UTC, Mark S. wrote:

 When you go into settings, plugins, is the new plugin listed?
  (Creates External image tiddler from google drive file link)

 On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 9:16:50 AM UTC-7, SRF88 wrote:
>
> Thank you for your quick response Mark
>
> I followed your instructions using an empty TW. A new icon did not 
> appear in the tools tab?
>
> I will make sure to use shared images on GD.
>
> Thank you.
>
> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 3:16:08 PM UTC, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> I think that plugin just helps you wrap shared images appropriately.
>>
>> To download from GH, click on the "tiddlers" folder. Then click on 
>> the $__plugins_zimiarh_extimg.tid link. Right click on the "Raw" 
>> button and then select "save link as" to download the tiddler.
>>
>> Find the downloaded tiddler and drag and drop into your TW file (a 
>> green bar should appear as you drag, that tells you it's ok to drop).
>>
>> Import the tiddler. Save your TW file. Reload. A new icon appears 
>> over in the sidebar, that will help you create links to SHARED images on 
>> gdrive.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 7:48:07 AM UTC-7, SRF88 wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> First of all, apologies for the simple question but I am quite far 
>>> out of my comfort zone here.
>>>
>>> I have been using TiddlyDesktop for a while, I use a lot of photos 
>>> to illustrate my note taking so I use inks to external photos. To make 
>>> the 
>>> TiddlyWiki more accessible I have experimented with moving it to Google 
>>> Drive, this has been successful using Tiddly Drive BUT i cannot figure 
>>> out 
>>> how to link my images.
>>>
>>> I have come across this plugin that might help 
>>> https://github.com/zimiarh/tiddlywiki-external-image but have no 
>>> idea how to install it!
>>>
>>> Or is there a more simple way of linking external images on Google 
>>> Drive?
>>>
>>> Sorry if this question has been answered before, I had a search and 
>>> could not find the answer.
>>>
>>> Any help would be much appreciated.
>>>
>>> Sam
>>>
>>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddly Extension for Firefox 57?

[Alex S. Garcia]

>- yes, Timimi works with it in modern FireFox (with several minor
>issues, but generally it works even better than TiddlyFox)

I just tried Timimi. Though installation seemed to work (got the "Hello there 
/ Have a great day" message) I still get an error message when I try to save 
changes to a TW file.

I removed all other TW related plugins to make sure there weren't any 
conflicts, but no luck.

Maybe I'm doing this wrong though... how do you save? I'm trying to use the 
usual "save changes" links under Admin Tools, should I use something else?

Oh and Yakov, BTW, I tried to post about my saving issues on the TWC list back 
in December, but my mail did not go through because the list is set up as a 
forum rather than a mailing-list.



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[tw5] Re: External images on Google Drive

[SRF88]

I'm on Mac.

Everything happened as per the download instructions. Though when I tried 
it again I realised that the file had been given a .txt extension. I 
deleted the additional extension and when I dragged and dropped I was 
prompted to save and refresh, which I did. The plugin is now in the plugin 
tab - perfect.

I created an image using a 'shareable link' but I just get a '?' icon 
instead of my image. I will see if I can work this out.

Thank you for all of your help!

On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 5:06:07 PM UTC, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Did the tid download, per the instructions, do you see it in your 
> downloads directory?
>
> Did you drag the file again, and drop it when the green bar appeared? Did 
> you see the green bar?
>
> After your dragged and dropped, did a tiddler appear called $:/Import?
>
> In that tiddler, did you click on "Import" ?
>
> I forgot to ask -- are you on Windows? 
>
> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 9:52:47 AM UTC-7, SRF88 wrote:
>>
>> No it is not.
>>
>> I know I've done something wrong here - sorry.
>>
>> Your help is much appreciated.
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 4:39:15 PM UTC, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> When you go into settings, plugins, is the new plugin listed?
>>>  (Creates External image tiddler from google drive file link)
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 9:16:50 AM UTC-7, SRF88 wrote:

 Thank you for your quick response Mark

 I followed your instructions using an empty TW. A new icon did not 
 appear in the tools tab?

 I will make sure to use shared images on GD.

 Thank you.

 On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 3:16:08 PM UTC, Mark S. wrote:
>
> I think that plugin just helps you wrap shared images appropriately.
>
> To download from GH, click on the "tiddlers" folder. Then click on the 
> $__plugins_zimiarh_extimg.tid link. Right click on the "Raw" button 
> and then select "save link as" to download the tiddler.
>
> Find the downloaded tiddler and drag and drop into your TW file (a 
> green bar should appear as you drag, that tells you it's ok to drop).
>
> Import the tiddler. Save your TW file. Reload. A new icon appears over 
> in the sidebar, that will help you create links to SHARED images on 
> gdrive.
>
> HTH
>
> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 7:48:07 AM UTC-7, SRF88 wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> First of all, apologies for the simple question but I am quite far 
>> out of my comfort zone here.
>>
>> I have been using TiddlyDesktop for a while, I use a lot of photos to 
>> illustrate my note taking so I use inks to external photos. To make the 
>> TiddlyWiki more accessible I have experimented with moving it to Google 
>> Drive, this has been successful using Tiddly Drive BUT i cannot figure 
>> out 
>> how to link my images.
>>
>> I have come across this plugin that might help 
>> https://github.com/zimiarh/tiddlywiki-external-image but have no 
>> idea how to install it!
>>
>> Or is there a more simple way of linking external images on Google 
>> Drive?
>>
>> Sorry if this question has been answered before, I had a search and 
>> could not find the answer.
>>
>> Any help would be much appreciated.
>>
>> Sam
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] file-backups plugin will be updated at: March 20th - Browser restart required!

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

I was having trouble with one specific file. file-backups wanted to revert 
to a "save-as" dialog. I finally got it to save by opening from file 
explorer. This gave the fb warning that there were two versions open. Then 
I could use the 2nd version and save. I'm thinking there was some 
background conflict with backups, but dunno. There is some issue, 
sometimes, which I know is incredibly vague.

On another issue, what path can you give fb to tell it to save in an 
absolute location? Every path I try gives me the red outline. There are 
many reasons a person might not want to save in the same directory as the 
original file. For one thing, it means the "real" backup to a separate 
drive will be longer. The working drive may have less capacity than the 
backup drive. There is more overhead when running dropbox or syncthing.

Thanks!

On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 1:59:09 AM UTC-7, PMario wrote:
>
> On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 5:38:02 PM UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> It's unclear. Did you test *saving* using a different root ?
>>
>
> file-backups *doesn't* have a "root" setting. If you open a file in a 
> subdirectory it will be automatically saved back to this directory. 
> The only directory setting in file-backups is the *backup directory*. ... 
> It *is always relative* to the open TW file. 
>
> So if you use E:\ in the browser setting as your downloads directory  ... 
> and 
> open E:\myWikis\test.html
>
> there will be a 
>  - E:\myWikis\twBackups\test.html\test(2020-03-23T15-41-22-312Z).html ... 
> The "new" "out of order" save. 
>  - E:\myWikis\twBackups\test.html\test(A).html .. test(B).html ... and so 
> on. ... existing behaviour
>
> This makes it possible to have several different test.html + their 
> backups. ... It isn't best practice to use the same name for different 
> wikis, but the AddOn could handle it well. 
>
> have fun!
> mario
>

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[tw5] Re: Radiobutton as Makro

[Gerald Weis]

Am Montag, 23. März 2020 13:52:31 UTC+1 schrieb Gerald Weis:
>
> Hello Friends,
>
> the code in the box works.
>
> But i want it to have as Makro
>
> is it possible that can do? It must to works in a lot of tiddler with 
> diverse values.
>
>
> 
>
> >
>
> 
> <>
> 
> <$radio field="modifier" value="11">wenig Fett/dünn
> 
> <$radio
>  field="modifier" value="12">Übergewicht/ zu 
> hoherFettgehalt 
> <$radio field="modifier" value="13">Adipös/fettleibig 
> 
> 
> 
> <$radio
>  field="modifier" value="21">geringes 
> Gewicht/dünn
> <$radio field="modifier" value="22">Norm
> <$radio
>  field="modifier" value="23">hohes 
> Gewicht/muskulös
> 
> 
> <$radio
>  field="modifier" 
> value="31">fettarm/dünn
> <$radio
>  field="modifier" 
> value="32">fettarm/muskulös
> <$radio
>  field="modifier" value="33">hohes 
> Gewichtmuskulös
> 
> 
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: External images on Google Drive

[Mohammad]

Mark,
 I could link to GDrive image using your description on WIndows 10.
Getting the correct link from google drive is tricky.

This link may help: 
https://support.awesome-table.com/hc/en-us/articles/115002196665-Display-images-from-Google-Drive

--Mohammad

On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 7:46:08 PM UTC+4:30, Mark S. wrote:
>
> I think that plugin just helps you wrap shared images appropriately.
>
> To download from GH, click on the "tiddlers" folder. Then click on the 
> $__plugins_zimiarh_extimg.tid link. Right click on the "Raw" button and 
> then select "save link as" to download the tiddler.
>
> Find the downloaded tiddler and drag and drop into your TW file (a green 
> bar should appear as you drag, that tells you it's ok to drop).
>
> Import the tiddler. Save your TW file. Reload. A new icon appears over in 
> the sidebar, that will help you create links to SHARED images on gdrive.
>
> HTH
>
> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 7:48:07 AM UTC-7, SRF88 wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> First of all, apologies for the simple question but I am quite far out of 
>> my comfort zone here.
>>
>> I have been using TiddlyDesktop for a while, I use a lot of photos to 
>> illustrate my note taking so I use inks to external photos. To make the 
>> TiddlyWiki more accessible I have experimented with moving it to Google 
>> Drive, this has been successful using Tiddly Drive BUT i cannot figure out 
>> how to link my images.
>>
>> I have come across this plugin that might help 
>> https://github.com/zimiarh/tiddlywiki-external-image but have no idea 
>> how to install it!
>>
>> Or is there a more simple way of linking external images on Google Drive?
>>
>> Sorry if this question has been answered before, I had a search and could 
>> not find the answer.
>>
>> Any help would be much appreciated.
>>
>> Sam
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Radiobutton as Makro

[Gerald Weis]

hello Tony,

then i have the radiobuttonmatrix showing in the Makrofile

but not in the tiddler where i want to use it.

 


Am Dienstag, 24. März 2020 02:47:49 UTC+1 schrieb TonyM:
>
> Does this not work?
>
> \define Makro()
> 
>
> >
>
> 
> <>
> 
> <$radio field="modifier" value="11">wenig Fett/dünn td>
> <$radio
>  field="modifier" value="12">Übergewicht/ zu
> hoherFettgehalt 
> <$radio field="modifier" value="13">Adipös/fettleibig <
> /$radio>
> 
> 
> <$radio
>  field="modifier" value="21">geringes
> Gewicht/dünn
> <$radio field="modifier" value="22">Norm
> <$radio
>  field="modifier" value="23">hohes
> Gewicht/muskulös
> 
> 
> <$radio
>  field="modifier"
> value="31">fettarm/dünn
> <$radio
>  field="modifier"
> value="32">fettarm/muskulös
> <$radio
>  field="modifier" value="33">hohes
> Gewichtmuskulös
> 
> 
> \end
> <>
>
> I cant read code very will with another language in it, but I am curious 
> why this updates the modifier field tested on tiddlywiki.com
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
> On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 11:52:31 PM UTC+11, Gerald Weis wrote:
>>
>> Hello Friends,
>>
>> the code in the box works.
>>
>> But i want it to have as Makro
>>
>> is it possible that can do? It must to works in a lot of tiddler with 
>> diverse values.
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> >
>>
>> 
>> <>
>> 
>> <$radio field="modifier" value="11">wenig Fett/dünn
>> 
>> <$radio
>>  field="modifier" value="12">Übergewicht/ zu 
>> hoherFettgehalt 
>> <$radio field="modifier" value="13">Adipös/fettleibig 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> <$radio
>>  field="modifier" value="21">geringes 
>> Gewicht/dünn
>> <$radio field="modifier" value="22">Norm
>> <$radio
>>  field="modifier" value="23">hohes 
>> Gewicht/muskulös
>> 
>> 
>> <$radio
>>  field="modifier" 
>> value="31">fettarm/dünn
>> <$radio
>>  field="modifier" 
>> value="32">fettarm/muskulös
>> <$radio
>>  field="modifier" value="33">hohes 
>> Gewichtmuskulös
>> 
>> 
>>
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: External images on Google Drive

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Did the tid download, per the instructions, do you see it in your downloads 
directory?

Did you drag the file again, and drop it when the green bar appeared? Did 
you see the green bar?

After your dragged and dropped, did a tiddler appear called $:/Import?

In that tiddler, did you click on "Import" ?

I forgot to ask -- are you on Windows? 

On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 9:52:47 AM UTC-7, SRF88 wrote:
>
> No it is not.
>
> I know I've done something wrong here - sorry.
>
> Your help is much appreciated.
>
> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 4:39:15 PM UTC, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> When you go into settings, plugins, is the new plugin listed?
>>  (Creates External image tiddler from google drive file link)
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 9:16:50 AM UTC-7, SRF88 wrote:
>>>
>>> Thank you for your quick response Mark
>>>
>>> I followed your instructions using an empty TW. A new icon did not 
>>> appear in the tools tab?
>>>
>>> I will make sure to use shared images on GD.
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 3:16:08 PM UTC, Mark S. wrote:

 I think that plugin just helps you wrap shared images appropriately.

 To download from GH, click on the "tiddlers" folder. Then click on the 
 $__plugins_zimiarh_extimg.tid link. Right click on the "Raw" button 
 and then select "save link as" to download the tiddler.

 Find the downloaded tiddler and drag and drop into your TW file (a 
 green bar should appear as you drag, that tells you it's ok to drop).

 Import the tiddler. Save your TW file. Reload. A new icon appears over 
 in the sidebar, that will help you create links to SHARED images on gdrive.

 HTH

 On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 7:48:07 AM UTC-7, SRF88 wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> First of all, apologies for the simple question but I am quite far out 
> of my comfort zone here.
>
> I have been using TiddlyDesktop for a while, I use a lot of photos to 
> illustrate my note taking so I use inks to external photos. To make the 
> TiddlyWiki more accessible I have experimented with moving it to Google 
> Drive, this has been successful using Tiddly Drive BUT i cannot figure 
> out 
> how to link my images.
>
> I have come across this plugin that might help 
> https://github.com/zimiarh/tiddlywiki-external-image but have no idea 
> how to install it!
>
> Or is there a more simple way of linking external images on Google 
> Drive?
>
> Sorry if this question has been answered before, I had a search and 
> could not find the answer.
>
> Any help would be much appreciated.
>
> Sam
>


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[tw5] Re: External images on Google Drive

[SRF88]

No it is not.

I know I've done something wrong here - sorry.

Your help is much appreciated.

On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 4:39:15 PM UTC, Mark S. wrote:
>
> When you go into settings, plugins, is the new plugin listed?
>  (Creates External image tiddler from google drive file link)
>
> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 9:16:50 AM UTC-7, SRF88 wrote:
>>
>> Thank you for your quick response Mark
>>
>> I followed your instructions using an empty TW. A new icon did not appear 
>> in the tools tab?
>>
>> I will make sure to use shared images on GD.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 3:16:08 PM UTC, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> I think that plugin just helps you wrap shared images appropriately.
>>>
>>> To download from GH, click on the "tiddlers" folder. Then click on the 
>>> $__plugins_zimiarh_extimg.tid link. Right click on the "Raw" button and 
>>> then select "save link as" to download the tiddler.
>>>
>>> Find the downloaded tiddler and drag and drop into your TW file (a green 
>>> bar should appear as you drag, that tells you it's ok to drop).
>>>
>>> Import the tiddler. Save your TW file. Reload. A new icon appears over 
>>> in the sidebar, that will help you create links to SHARED images on gdrive.
>>>
>>> HTH
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 7:48:07 AM UTC-7, SRF88 wrote:

 Hi all,

 First of all, apologies for the simple question but I am quite far out 
 of my comfort zone here.

 I have been using TiddlyDesktop for a while, I use a lot of photos to 
 illustrate my note taking so I use inks to external photos. To make the 
 TiddlyWiki more accessible I have experimented with moving it to Google 
 Drive, this has been successful using Tiddly Drive BUT i cannot figure out 
 how to link my images.

 I have come across this plugin that might help 
 https://github.com/zimiarh/tiddlywiki-external-image but have no idea 
 how to install it!

 Or is there a more simple way of linking external images on Google 
 Drive?

 Sorry if this question has been answered before, I had a search and 
 could not find the answer.

 Any help would be much appreciated.

 Sam

>>>

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[tw5] Re: External images on Google Drive

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

When you go into settings, plugins, is the new plugin listed?
 (Creates External image tiddler from google drive file link)

On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 9:16:50 AM UTC-7, SRF88 wrote:
>
> Thank you for your quick response Mark
>
> I followed your instructions using an empty TW. A new icon did not appear 
> in the tools tab?
>
> I will make sure to use shared images on GD.
>
> Thank you.
>
> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 3:16:08 PM UTC, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> I think that plugin just helps you wrap shared images appropriately.
>>
>> To download from GH, click on the "tiddlers" folder. Then click on the 
>> $__plugins_zimiarh_extimg.tid link. Right click on the "Raw" button and 
>> then select "save link as" to download the tiddler.
>>
>> Find the downloaded tiddler and drag and drop into your TW file (a green 
>> bar should appear as you drag, that tells you it's ok to drop).
>>
>> Import the tiddler. Save your TW file. Reload. A new icon appears over in 
>> the sidebar, that will help you create links to SHARED images on gdrive.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 7:48:07 AM UTC-7, SRF88 wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> First of all, apologies for the simple question but I am quite far out 
>>> of my comfort zone here.
>>>
>>> I have been using TiddlyDesktop for a while, I use a lot of photos to 
>>> illustrate my note taking so I use inks to external photos. To make the 
>>> TiddlyWiki more accessible I have experimented with moving it to Google 
>>> Drive, this has been successful using Tiddly Drive BUT i cannot figure out 
>>> how to link my images.
>>>
>>> I have come across this plugin that might help 
>>> https://github.com/zimiarh/tiddlywiki-external-image but have no idea 
>>> how to install it!
>>>
>>> Or is there a more simple way of linking external images on Google Drive?
>>>
>>> Sorry if this question has been answered before, I had a search and 
>>> could not find the answer.
>>>
>>> Any help would be much appreciated.
>>>
>>> Sam
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: External images on Google Drive

[SRF88]

Thank you for your quick response Mark

I followed your instructions using an empty TW. A new icon did not appear 
in the tools tab?

I will make sure to use shared images on GD.

Thank you.

On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 3:16:08 PM UTC, Mark S. wrote:
>
> I think that plugin just helps you wrap shared images appropriately.
>
> To download from GH, click on the "tiddlers" folder. Then click on the 
> $__plugins_zimiarh_extimg.tid link. Right click on the "Raw" button and 
> then select "save link as" to download the tiddler.
>
> Find the downloaded tiddler and drag and drop into your TW file (a green 
> bar should appear as you drag, that tells you it's ok to drop).
>
> Import the tiddler. Save your TW file. Reload. A new icon appears over in 
> the sidebar, that will help you create links to SHARED images on gdrive.
>
> HTH
>
> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 7:48:07 AM UTC-7, SRF88 wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> First of all, apologies for the simple question but I am quite far out of 
>> my comfort zone here.
>>
>> I have been using TiddlyDesktop for a while, I use a lot of photos to 
>> illustrate my note taking so I use inks to external photos. To make the 
>> TiddlyWiki more accessible I have experimented with moving it to Google 
>> Drive, this has been successful using Tiddly Drive BUT i cannot figure out 
>> how to link my images.
>>
>> I have come across this plugin that might help 
>> https://github.com/zimiarh/tiddlywiki-external-image but have no idea 
>> how to install it!
>>
>> Or is there a more simple way of linking external images on Google Drive?
>>
>> Sorry if this question has been answered before, I had a search and could 
>> not find the answer.
>>
>> Any help would be much appreciated.
>>
>> Sam
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: External images on Google Drive

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

I think that plugin just helps you wrap shared images appropriately.

To download from GH, click on the "tiddlers" folder. Then click on the 
$__plugins_zimiarh_extimg.tid link. Right click on the "Raw" button and 
then select "save link as" to download the tiddler.

Find the downloaded tiddler and drag and drop into your TW file (a green 
bar should appear as you drag, that tells you it's ok to drop).

Import the tiddler. Save your TW file. Reload. A new icon appears over in 
the sidebar, that will help you create links to SHARED images on gdrive.

HTH

On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 7:48:07 AM UTC-7, SRF88 wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> First of all, apologies for the simple question but I am quite far out of 
> my comfort zone here.
>
> I have been using TiddlyDesktop for a while, I use a lot of photos to 
> illustrate my note taking so I use inks to external photos. To make the 
> TiddlyWiki more accessible I have experimented with moving it to Google 
> Drive, this has been successful using Tiddly Drive BUT i cannot figure out 
> how to link my images.
>
> I have come across this plugin that might help 
> https://github.com/zimiarh/tiddlywiki-external-image but have no idea how 
> to install it!
>
> Or is there a more simple way of linking external images on Google Drive?
>
> Sorry if this question has been answered before, I had a search and could 
> not find the answer.
>
> Any help would be much appreciated.
>
> Sam
>

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[tw5] Re: wikitext table formatting

[Mohammad]

Added to TW-Scripts.

Hi Mario,
 This is really a tricky and clever solution using wikitext!

--Mohammad

On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 7:24:25 PM UTC+4:30, PMario wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 1:36:10 AM UTC+1, John Meyer wrote:
>>
>> is it possible, using wikitext, to set background-color on individual 
>> cells (which could be empty of text)?  or do I have to fall back to html 
>> for that?
>>
>
> Hi, 
> I did a fast experiment, following an idea. Drag and Drop import the 
> attachment into tiddlywiki.com or your wiki and you can play with it. 
>
> The macro call looks like this: 
>
> <>
>
>
> It looks like this: 
>
>
>
> The only thing your table needs is a leading
>
> |myClass |k ... line ... myClass can be different for every table
>
> I think I can tweak it a little bit and create a proper plugin! Or may be a 
> PR for the core. 
>
> With a JS-macro we could probably make it even more powerfull. 
>
> have fun!
> mario
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: wikitext table formatting

[PMario]

Hi, 

*Be aware!*

At the moment rows and columns are "hardcoded" ... So if you change your 
table, your macro params have to be changed too!
So the whole thing can be error prone, if you use a lot of different 
colours. 

BUT for a little bit of colouring it should be OK. 

have fun!
mario

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[tw5] Re: wikitext table formatting

[PMario]

On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 1:36:10 AM UTC+1, John Meyer wrote:
>
> is it possible, using wikitext, to set background-color on individual 
> cells (which could be empty of text)?  or do I have to fall back to html 
> for that?
>

Hi, 
I did a fast experiment, following an idea. Drag and Drop import the 
attachment into tiddlywiki.com or your wiki and you can play with it. 

The macro call looks like this: 

<>


It looks like this: 



The only thing your table needs is a leading

|myClass |k ... line ... myClass can be different for every table

I think I can tweak it a little bit and create a proper plugin! Or may be a PR 
for the core. 

With a JS-macro we could probably make it even more powerfull. 

have fun!
mario


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Description: application/json

[tw5] External images on Google Drive

[SRF88]

Hi all,

First of all, apologies for the simple question but I am quite far out of 
my comfort zone here.

I have been using TiddlyDesktop for a while, I use a lot of photos to 
illustrate my note taking so I use inks to external photos. To make the 
TiddlyWiki more accessible I have experimented with moving it to Google 
Drive, this has been successful using Tiddly Drive BUT i cannot figure out 
how to link my images.

I have come across this plugin that might help 
https://github.com/zimiarh/tiddlywiki-external-image but have no idea how 
to install it!

Or is there a more simple way of linking external images on Google Drive?

Sorry if this question has been answered before, I had a search and could 
not find the answer.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Sam

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[tw5] Re: Tiddler translate by Google button

[Mohammad]

Hi A. Gloom,
 I did a little modification to your original solution and attached it to 
simply translate every tiddler you like.



   1. drag and drop the attached tiddler into your wiki. This tiddler is 
   called *template/translate*
   2. tag any tiddler you like to get the TRANSLATE button with *translate*
   3. a button will appear at the bottom of tiddlers tagged with *translate*
   4. click the button, the Google Translate will be opened with your text 
   in source language and its translation in the target language
   5. the current languages are set to *en-US > fa-IR*
   6. to change source and target languages, open the *template/translate* 
   tiddler and in the first two line set the source and target languages as 
   you like


Thank you A Gloom.

--Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: wikitext table formatting

[PMario]

On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 1:36:10 AM UTC+1, John Meyer wrote:
>
> is it possible, using wikitext, to set background-color on individual 
> cells (which could be empty of text)?  or do I have to fall back to html 
> for that?
>
> It's documented in TW Classic, but that didn't work in TW5... i.e.
>
> |something|other thing|
> |background-color:blue; this thing|that thing|
> ||background-color:green; |
>

Hi, 
I'll post a CSS-based macro soon. It should be possible to define the row 
and the column. 
Probably ranges  BUT I have to have a closer look at the CSS docs ;)
-mario

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[tw5] Re: Additions for Mohammad's Covid-19 TW

[Mohammad]

Many Thanks A. Gloom. I added this to the Wiki!

--Mohammad

On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 4:57:11 PM UTC+4:30, A Gloom wrote:
>
> The first of additons for the Covid-19/pandemic TW that Mohammad created:
>
> Public Health Agencies search tiddler version 2 (incorporating some core 
> lingo for Internationalization (we hope-- didn't test it ><) - lingo text 
> marked with " * " )
>
> *Testing by individuals in other Google search engines (other than the 
> standard English) is highly desired*
>
> This can be used in any other TW as well, its fully self contained and 
> will create its own data tiddler ("nha bookmarks", for bookmarks) and temp 
> tiddlers as its used.
> It was created with the idea of his work becoming a general pandemic 
> safety guide (there will be others in the future, SARS, bird flu, etc were 
> wakeup calls-- Covid 19 is a sucker punch) 
>  
> This tiddler draws from the reference wikis search of Ref Collective and 
> takes advantage of Google having an OpenDirectory type result for searches 
> for government agency-- guarantying those links will appear first in search 
> results.
> There's also a tentative translate function leveraging Google translate-- 
> which opens Google Translate in a separate window prefilled with 
> instructions that can be translated to simply paste (control-V) which will 
> insert the tiddler's text (which was loaded into clipboard by the translate 
> button) so the tiddler's text can be translated quickly and easily.
> A bookmarks section (with editor and search) for saving links for future 
> use. (made possible by Jed Carty's code)
>
> There's still work that needs to be done (more leveraging of core lingo 
> for internationalization) but the tiddler is functional. (except for 
> annotations for bookmarks-- have to add annotation creation to the 
> bookmarks editor-- but bookmarks can be created/saved/edited/listed & 
> searched)
>
> next: version 3 and a fact check tiddler
>

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[tw5] Re: Trying to use Tiddlywiki on Firefox, unsuccessful yet.

[PMario]

On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 1:10:27 PM UTC+1, Renaud B. wrote:
>
> You found the problem PMario, it seems there is a bug with saving TW in a 
> folder named with "special caracters", in my case if I rename the folder 
> /home/renaud/Telechargements/ instead of /home/renaud/Téléchargements/ 
> (which the default Downloads folder on this system), or if a put the TW 
> file in any folder named with basic characters, Timini saves the TW 
> correctly. I haven't tried with file-backup. I guess this bug should be 
> addressed for people like me who has set their OS locale to something else 
> than english.
>

There is a fix on the way. I'll create a PR for TiddlyWiki. It should be 
addressed there, since it contains the starting point of the problem.

-mario

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[tw5] Tiddler translate by Google button

[A Gloom]

A way to translate tiddler content by leveraging Google translate-- button 
opens Google Translate in a separate window prefilled with instructions 
that can be translated -- to instruct fo simply paste (control-V) which 
will insert the tiddler's text (which was loaded into clipboard by the 
translate button) so the tiddler's text can be translated quickly and 
easily in 3 steps-- click button, select language to translate to, read 
translated instruction and paste which will translate the tiddlers 
contents.  A macro is planned

*The copy to clipboard param can also be a macro with the text to translate 
if you only wish to translate a portion of the tiddlers text*

<$button message="tm-copy-to-clipboard" param={{!!text}} tooltip='Use 
Google Translate to translate tiddler and instructions'>
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-open-external-window" 
$param="https://www.google.com/search?&q=translate%3A+%22paste+%28control-V%29+to+insert+instructions%22&oq=translate%3A+%22paste+%28control-V%29+to+insert+instructions%22
" windowName="_translate" windowFeatures="height=400, width=600"/>
TRANSLATE en-US > {{$:/info/browser/language}}


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[tw5] Re: Creating tiddlers and programmatically modifying them?

[Flibbles]

Why doesn't it work?

I'm unsure whether you want $(name)$ to be replaced during creation, or if 
you want to copy `\define code-tiddler() $(name)$` exactly as is, but 
either way, you can include pragma inside the body macro.

\define body()
\define code-tiddler() $(value)$

Dear $(name)$,

I write to inform you that your pet, $(pet)$ has filed for emancipation.
\end


$(value)$ here will remain as-is unless `value` is defined. If it IS 
defined, it'll replace, so you can get either way you want it, I'd think.

On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 8:35:19 AM UTC-4, TonyM wrote:
>
> Fibbles,
>
> I have just realized this won't work in the tiddler I create needs to 
> contain a define
> \define code-tiddler() $(name)$
>
> There are many applications it will, but perhaps not this one.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 1:19:05 PM UTC+11, Flibbles wrote:
>>
>> This would be outside the scope of Relink, but  there are ways to 
>> programmatically fill out a generated tiddler.
>>
>> \define body()
>> Dear $(name)$,
>>
>> I write to inform you that your pet, $(pet)$ has filed for emancipation.
>> \end
>>
>> \define createButton()
>> <$button tooltip="Create new letter" aria-label="new letter" class=<> config-toolbar-class>>>
>> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" title=<> text=<<
>> body>> />
>> <$list filter="[prefix[yes]]">
>> {{$:/core/images/new-button}}
>> 
>> <$list filter="[prefix[yes]]">
>> <$text text="new letter" />
>> 
>> 
>> \end
>>
>>
>> <$set name="title" value="New Letter">
>> <$set name="name" value="Wilson">
>> <$set name="pet" value="snuffles">
>> <>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> This will create a new tiddler. with a variable title, name, and pet.
>>
>> -Flibbles
>>
>> On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 9:20:52 PM UTC-4, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> I have a little project where it would be helpful if I could create a 
>>> tiddler from a template (for its body) but then replace various content 
>>> within the text or fields with different values.
>>>
>>> For example what if the template included ##name## then I had a macro 
>>> that would replace in the body of the new tiddler
>>>
>>>- ##name## with Tony
>>>- ##icon## with {{<>||$:/core/images/info-button}}
>>>- etc...
>>>
>>> I imagine if a set of such changes could be triggered by a button and an 
>>> action widget all the better.
>>>
>>> I have other ways to achieve this but it would surprise me if the code 
>>> was not already available somewhere.
>>>
>>> Any leads would be appreciated
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tony
>>>
>>

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Re: [tw5] Bug or feature in Tiddler Manager. tag do not disapear ..

[vpl]

Miraculous !

I love TW5 ..

Thanks a lot

Regards

Le mardi 24 mars 2020 13:21:10 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston a écrit :
>
> The recent tags are stored in the tiddler $:/config/Manager/RecentTags, 
> and you can just delete it to get rid of it. There’s a limit of 12 tags at 
> the moment, which is hardcoded in $:/Manager/ItemSidebar/Tags
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
> On 24 Mar 2020, at 12:11, vpl > wrote:
>
> Thanks a lot Jeremy for this answer. 
> Any way to clean this cash or configure it's size ?
>
> Vpl
>
> Le mardi 24 mars 2020 09:09:34 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston a écrit :
>>
>> The tiddler manager remembers the last few tags that have been used, and 
>> displays them as unchecked checkboxes. It makes it easier to add the same 
>> tag to a bunch of tiddlers in turn.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy.
>>
>> --
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>> jer...@jermolene.com
>> https://jermolene.com
>>
>> On 24 Mar 2020, at 07:55, vpl  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> Here is how to reproduce simply the test. I've used an empty TW5 freshly 
>> downloaded from the Web site
>>
>> - create tiddler "test-1" with tag "tag-1"
>> - create tiddler "test-2"
>> - in the tiddler-Manager assign "tag-1" to tiddler "test-2"
>> - in the tiddler-Manager un-assign "tag-1" from tiddler "test-2"
>> - remove completely tiddler "test-1"
>> - Open the tag-manager
>>- There is no tag at all listed. Fine
>> - Open the tiddler-manager and select "test-2"
>> *   - The tag "tag-1" is still There*
>>
>>
>> Looks strange to me as "tag-1" is not assigned any more to any tiddler 
>> (as the tag manager shows). Why do we keep it in the tiddler manager ?
>>
>> Thanks for your help
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Vincent
>>
>>
>>
>> Le mardi 24 mars 2020 06:54:30 UTC+1, A Gloom a écrit :
>>>
>>> I tried ytour button and it wasn't removing the tag
>>>
>>
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[tw5] Re: Creating tiddlers and programmatically modifying them?

[TonyM]

Fibbles,

I have just realized this won't work in the tiddler I create needs to 
contain a define
\define code-tiddler() $(name)$

There are many applications it will, but perhaps not this one.

Regards
Tony


On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 1:19:05 PM UTC+11, Flibbles wrote:
>
> This would be outside the scope of Relink, but  there are ways to 
> programmatically fill out a generated tiddler.
>
> \define body()
> Dear $(name)$,
>
> I write to inform you that your pet, $(pet)$ has filed for emancipation.
> \end
>
> \define createButton()
> <$button tooltip="Create new letter" aria-label="new letter" class=< config-toolbar-class>>>
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" title=<> text=< >> />
> <$list filter="[prefix[yes]]">
> {{$:/core/images/new-button}}
> 
> <$list filter="[prefix[yes]]">
> <$text text="new letter" />
> 
> 
> \end
>
>
> <$set name="title" value="New Letter">
> <$set name="name" value="Wilson">
> <$set name="pet" value="snuffles">
> <>
>
> 
>
>
> This will create a new tiddler. with a variable title, name, and pet.
>
> -Flibbles
>
> On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 9:20:52 PM UTC-4, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>> I have a little project where it would be helpful if I could create a 
>> tiddler from a template (for its body) but then replace various content 
>> within the text or fields with different values.
>>
>> For example what if the template included ##name## then I had a macro 
>> that would replace in the body of the new tiddler
>>
>>- ##name## with Tony
>>- ##icon## with {{<>||$:/core/images/info-button}}
>>- etc...
>>
>> I imagine if a set of such changes could be triggered by a button and an 
>> action widget all the better.
>>
>> I have other ways to achieve this but it would surprise me if the code 
>> was not already available somewhere.
>>
>> Any leads would be appreciated
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>

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[tw5] Additions for Mohammad's Covid-19 TW

[A Gloom]

The first of additons for the Covid-19/pandemic TW that Mohammad created:

Public Health Agencies search tiddler version 2 (incorporating some core 
lingo for Internationalization (we hope-- didn't test it ><) - lingo text 
marked with " * " )

*Testing by individuals in other Google search engines (other than the 
standard English) is highly desired*

This can be used in any other TW as well, its fully self contained and will 
create its own data tiddler ("nha bookmarks", for bookmarks) and temp 
tiddlers as its used.
It was created with the idea of his work becoming a general pandemic safety 
guide (there will be others in the future, SARS, bird flu, etc were wakeup 
calls-- Covid 19 is a sucker punch) 
 
This tiddler draws from the reference wikis search of Ref Collective and 
takes advantage of Google having an OpenDirectory type result for searches 
for government agency-- guarantying those links will appear first in search 
results.
There's also a tentative translate function leveraging Google translate-- 
which opens Google Translate in a separate window prefilled with 
instructions that can be translated to simply paste (control-V) which will 
insert the tiddler's text (which was loaded into clipboard by the translate 
button) so the tiddler's text can be translated quickly and easily.
A bookmarks section (with editor and search) for saving links for future 
use. (made possible by Jed Carty's code)

There's still work that needs to be done (more leveraging of core lingo for 
internationalization) but the tiddler is functional. (except for 
annotations for bookmarks-- have to add annotation creation to the 
bookmarks editor-- but bookmarks can be created/saved/edited/listed & 
searched)

next: version 3 and a fact check tiddler

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki and Coronavirus: March 2020 [Continued...]

[Birthe C]

Insurance would also like to know, where you shopped, when and what you 
shopped.
You smoked at some point in life. You have shopped some wine or alcohol no 
matter how often and how much. You are not eating the healthiest menu.
Conclusion you illness is your own fault, we can not cover you.

For years people having more seldom illnesses or multiple illnesses that we 
do not know enough about have been called Functional Disorders. In reality 
treated in more and more clinics by psychiatrists. "It is all in the inside 
of your head. It is your way of thinking."

Then people are not getting insurance and are left to themselves. Getting 
other symptoms, they are getting ignored largely.
lack of tests or knowledge before this diagnose is very dangerous. Do not 
get a cancer later in life.

It might be true for some people but not for the majority. In medical 
history many illnesses have been called hypochondria, but science later 
proved that not to be true.

Register science looking for data can be an important thing, but science 
used to be so much more.


Birthe

tirsdag den 24. marts 2020 kl. 12.37.22 UTC+1 skrev HansWobbe:
>
> I don't like to be cynical, but...
>
>
> re: listed as a criminal for not owning a mobile
>
> Abnormal behaviour does indeed have risks.  And as a result of 911, the 
> "presumption of innocence" is no longer the norm.  Now everyone must submit 
> to bureaucratic procedures in order to show  they are not potentially guilty
>
>
> re: internet-connected thermometers...
>
>  I can certainly see that Insurance companies will use that data to negate 
> their coverage obligations under the guise of pre-existing conditions.
>
>
> In Canada, we have recently had two major scandles in which the government 
> tried to deny their actions and ignore the RuleOfLaw.  On 2020.03.23, the 
> declaration of Emergency Financial Powers, that will be in effect for the 
> next 18 months, effectively suspends democracy itself.
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Bug or feature in Tiddler Manager. tag do not disapear ..

[Jeremy Ruston]

The recent tags are stored in the tiddler $:/config/Manager/RecentTags, and you 
can just delete it to get rid of it. There’s a limit of 12 tags at the moment, 
which is hardcoded in $:/Manager/ItemSidebar/Tags

Best wishes

Jeremy.

> On 24 Mar 2020, at 12:11, vpl  wrote:
> 
> Thanks a lot Jeremy for this answer. 
> Any way to clean this cash or configure it's size ?
> 
> Vpl
> 
> Le mardi 24 mars 2020 09:09:34 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston a écrit :
> The tiddler manager remembers the last few tags that have been used, and 
> displays them as unchecked checkboxes. It makes it easier to add the same tag 
> to a bunch of tiddlers in turn.
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Jeremy.
> 
> --
> Jeremy Ruston
> jer...@jermolene.com <>
> https://jermolene.com 
> 
>> On 24 Mar 2020, at 07:55, vpl > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Here is how to reproduce simply the test. I've used an empty TW5 freshly 
>> downloaded from the Web site
>> 
>> - create tiddler "test-1" with tag "tag-1"
>> - create tiddler "test-2"
>> - in the tiddler-Manager assign "tag-1" to tiddler "test-2"
>> - in the tiddler-Manager un-assign "tag-1" from tiddler "test-2"
>> - remove completely tiddler "test-1"
>> - Open the tag-manager
>>- There is no tag at all listed. Fine
>> - Open the tiddler-manager and select "test-2"
>>- The tag "tag-1" is still There
>> 
>> 
>> Looks strange to me as "tag-1" is not assigned any more to any tiddler (as 
>> the tag manager shows). Why do we keep it in the tiddler manager ?
>> 
>> Thanks for your help
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Vincent
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Le mardi 24 mars 2020 06:54:30 UTC+1, A Gloom a écrit :
>> I tried ytour button and it wasn't removing the tag
>> 
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Re: [tw5] Re: Bug or feature in Tiddler Manager. tag do not disapear ..

[vpl]

Thanks a lot Jeremy for this answer. 
Any way to clean this cash or configure it's size ?

Vpl

Le mardi 24 mars 2020 09:09:34 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston a écrit :
>
> The tiddler manager remembers the last few tags that have been used, and 
> displays them as unchecked checkboxes. It makes it easier to add the same 
> tag to a bunch of tiddlers in turn.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
> --
> Jeremy Ruston
> jer...@jermolene.com 
> https://jermolene.com
>
> On 24 Mar 2020, at 07:55, vpl > wrote:
>
> 
> Hi,
>
> Here is how to reproduce simply the test. I've used an empty TW5 freshly 
> downloaded from the Web site
>
> - create tiddler "test-1" with tag "tag-1"
> - create tiddler "test-2"
> - in the tiddler-Manager assign "tag-1" to tiddler "test-2"
> - in the tiddler-Manager un-assign "tag-1" from tiddler "test-2"
> - remove completely tiddler "test-1"
> - Open the tag-manager
>- There is no tag at all listed. Fine
> - Open the tiddler-manager and select "test-2"
> *   - The tag "tag-1" is still There*
>
>
> Looks strange to me as "tag-1" is not assigned any more to any tiddler (as 
> the tag manager shows). Why do we keep it in the tiddler manager ?
>
> Thanks for your help
>
> Regards
>
> Vincent
>
>
>
> Le mardi 24 mars 2020 06:54:30 UTC+1, A Gloom a écrit :
>>
>> I tried ytour button and it wasn't removing the tag
>>
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[tw5] Re: Trying to use Tiddlywiki on Firefox, unsuccessful yet.

[Renaud B.]

You found the problem PMario, it seems there is a bug with saving TW in a 
folder named with "special caracters", in my case if I rename the folder 
/home/renaud/Telechargements/ instead of /home/renaud/Téléchargements/ 
(which the default Downloads folder on this system), or if a put the TW 
file in any folder named with basic characters, Timini saves the TW 
correctly. I haven't tried with file-backup. I guess this bug should be 
addressed for people like me who has set their OS locale to something else 
than english.

Thanks for your help!

Le mardi 24 mars 2020 07:50:31 UTC-4, Birthe C a écrit :
>
> PMario,
>
> Thank you for correcting this.
> @
> Birthe
>
> tirsdag den 24. marts 2020 kl. 12.23.52 UTC+1 skrev PMario:
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 5:16:37 AM UTC+1, Birthe C wrote:
>>>
>>> Renaud B,
>>>
>>> Did you not delete Tiddlyfox? You should not have more savers installed 
>>> at the same time.
>>>
>>
>> file-backups and Timimi use the TiddlyFox saver, that is built into the 
>> TW core. That makes it possible that really old TWs still can be saved, 
>> without the need to modify the TW file. 
>>
>> -mario
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Trying to use Tiddlywiki on Firefox, unsuccessful yet.

[Birthe C]

PMario,

Thank you for correcting this.

Birthe

tirsdag den 24. marts 2020 kl. 12.23.52 UTC+1 skrev PMario:
>
> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 5:16:37 AM UTC+1, Birthe C wrote:
>>
>> Renaud B,
>>
>> Did you not delete Tiddlyfox? You should not have more savers installed 
>> at the same time.
>>
>
> file-backups and Timimi use the TiddlyFox saver, that is built into the TW 
> core. That makes it possible that really old TWs still can be saved, 
> without the need to modify the TW file. 
>
> -mario
>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki and Coronavirus: March 2020 [Continued...]

[HansWobbe]

I don't like to be cynical, but...


re: listed as a criminal for not owning a mobile

Abnormal behaviour does indeed have risks.  And as a result of 911, the 
"presumption of innocence" is no longer thee norm.  Now everyone must 
submit to bureaucratic procedures in order to show  they are not 
potentially guilty


re: internet-connected thermometers...

 I can certainly see that Insurance companies will use that data to negate 
their coverage obligations under the guise of pre-existing conditions.


In Canada, we have recently had two major scandles in which the government 
tried to deny their actions and ignore the RuleOfLaw.  On 2020.03.23, the 
declaration of Emergency Financial Powers, that will be in effect for the 
next 18 months, effectively suspends democracy itself.

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[tw5] Re: Trying to use Tiddlywiki on Firefox, unsuccessful yet.

[PMario]

On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 5:16:37 AM UTC+1, Birthe C wrote:
>
> Renaud B,
>
> Did you not delete Tiddlyfox? You should not have more savers installed at 
> the same time.
>

file-backups and Timimi use the TiddlyFox saver, that is built into the TW 
core. That makes it possible that really old TWs still can be saved, 
without the need to modify the TW file. 

-mario

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[tw5] Lingo macro: possible to trim off words

[A Gloom]

With the core $:/language tiddlers that the lingo macro uses-- is it 
possible to trim off/select words like can be done with tiltles in filters 
but with the lingo macro?

So instead of using "Server URL", use just "URL" from it

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[tw5] Re: Trying to use Tiddlywiki on Firefox, unsuccessful yet.

[PMario]

On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 1:33:06 AM UTC+1, Renaud B. wrote:
>
> Thanks for your reply. If Timimi allows us to use a Tiddlywiki file from 
> anywhere on the filesystem, and not just the Firefox Download folder, 
> that's really great. I just tryed to reinstall it, it does the same thing. 
> I install the addon file, and then download the zip file, extract it, 
> executes it, it says: 
>

I did some tests and it seems it is a problem with the existing TiddlyWiki 
saver, which is active prior to any saver AddOn. So probably every addOn 
saver that uses the TiddlyFox saving mechanism has the same problems here. 

I need to have a fast look at  Timimi's and "savetiddlers" source code, to 
know if the both have the same problem. 

have fun!
mariio

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[tw5] Re: Creating tiddlers and programmatically modifying them?

[TonyM]

Mario

I already did support that Mario. It would help.

I have found that unless I can automate building things like new novel buttons 
or build templates it consumes too much time.

If you look at the core buttons as an example they are not strait forward.

The tip of using a macro for the body and $(variable)$ references is a good 
one. I have a macro that converts all fields on a nominated tiddler to 
variables which would work well with this. One reason its good is all values 
are represented with the same standard, no need to choose between variable, 
field or tiddler references 

I am also keen to enable users, non tiddlywiki enthusiasts to build forms or 
templates to generate output like one may do with a mail merge so finding an 
easy template language that I feed with data from tiddlers would be nice. Like 
someone writes a letter and inserts active variables.

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: Relink, and setting up button widgets for modals

[TonyM]

On renaming tiddlers

Relink is a marvelous tool, however Personaly I do not have a problem renaming 
tiddlers because of a standard naming practice. I am always careful to separate 
code with fixed names and data free to rename. Truth is I bring decades of 
coding experience to this but I wish I could mind meld with few of you to pass 
it on.

Not withstanding this I have forseen issues in some very specific cases and 
already have solutions. The most powerful with lots of additional benefits is. 
TSN tiddler serial number which is set once and never changes so when you want 
a permanent rename open link you can have it.

Nor would it be hard to provide a whole suit related tools, already we could 
make use of the TSN , alias plugin and Relink not only to free tiddler names 
but open up some really cool features.

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: Trying to use Tiddlywiki on Firefox, unsuccessful yet.

[PMario]

On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 10:23:19 AM UTC+1, PMario wrote:
>
> Hi Renaud,
>
I think the directory name: /home/renaud/Téléchargements/Tiddlywikis/   
> could be a problem. ... 
>

I did test it with ubuntu 18.04 and FF latest. ... I can confirm, that 
there is a problem with the path name. 

It works for me with: /home/renaud/Telechargements/Tiddlywikis/ as a workaro
und. 

I'll have a closer look and will post more info soon. 

-mario

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[tw5] Re: Trying to use Tiddlywiki on Firefox, unsuccessful yet.

[PMario]

Hi Renaud,

I think the directory name: /home/renaud/Téléchargements/Tiddlywikis/   
could be a problem. ... 

Can you test it with: /home/renaud/Telechargements/Tiddlywikis/ without the 
é 

just a guess. 

-mario

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[tw5] Re: Creating tiddlers and programmatically modifying them?

[PMario]

Hi, 
IMO see the GH pull request: 
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/4436  You could promote it. 
It seems I don't have much success with my PRs lately. 
-mario

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[tw5] Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] file-backups plugin will be updated at: March 20th - Browser restart required!

[PMario]

On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 5:38:02 PM UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>
> It's unclear. Did you test *saving* using a different root ?
>

file-backups *doesn't* have a "root" setting. If you open a file in a 
subdirectory it will be automatically saved back to this directory. 
The only directory setting in file-backups is the *backup directory*. ... 
It *is always relative* to the open TW file. 

So if you use E:\ in the browser setting as your downloads directory  ... 
and 
open E:\myWikis\test.html

there will be a 
 - E:\myWiki\twBackups\test.html\test(2020-03-23T15-41-22-312Z).html ... 
The "new" "out of order" save. 
 - E:\myWiki\twBackups\test.html\test(A).html .. test(B).html ... and so 
on. ... existing behaviour

This makes it possible to have several different test.html + their backups. 
... It isn't best practice to use the same name for different wikis, but 
the AddOn could handle it well. 

have fun!
mario

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Re: [tw5] Re: Bug or feature in Tiddler Manager. tag do not disapear ..

[Jeremy Ruston]

The tiddler manager remembers the last few tags that have been used, and 
displays them as unchecked checkboxes. It makes it easier to add the same tag 
to a bunch of tiddlers in turn.

Best wishes

Jeremy.

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> On 24 Mar 2020, at 07:55, vpl  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Here is how to reproduce simply the test. I've used an empty TW5 freshly 
> downloaded from the Web site
> 
> - create tiddler "test-1" with tag "tag-1"
> - create tiddler "test-2"
> - in the tiddler-Manager assign "tag-1" to tiddler "test-2"
> - in the tiddler-Manager un-assign "tag-1" from tiddler "test-2"
> - remove completely tiddler "test-1"
> - Open the tag-manager
>- There is no tag at all listed. Fine
> - Open the tiddler-manager and select "test-2"
>- The tag "tag-1" is still There
> 
> 
> Looks strange to me as "tag-1" is not assigned any more to any tiddler (as 
> the tag manager shows). Why do we keep it in the tiddler manager ?
> 
> Thanks for your help
> 
> Regards
> 
> Vincent
> 
> 
> 
> Le mardi 24 mars 2020 06:54:30 UTC+1, A Gloom a écrit :
>> 
>> I tried ytour button and it wasn't removing the tag
> 
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[tw5] Re: Bug or feature in Tiddler Manager. tag do not disapear ..

[vpl]

Hi,

Here is how to reproduce simply the test. I've used an empty TW5 freshly 
downloaded from the Web site

- create tiddler "test-1" with tag "tag-1"
- create tiddler "test-2"
- in the tiddler-Manager assign "tag-1" to tiddler "test-2"
- in the tiddler-Manager un-assign "tag-1" from tiddler "test-2"
- remove completely tiddler "test-1"
- Open the tag-manager
   - There is no tag at all listed. Fine
- Open the tiddler-manager and select "test-2"
*   - The tag "tag-1" is still There*


Looks strange to me as "tag-1" is not assigned any more to any tiddler (as 
the tag manager shows). Why do we keep it in the tiddler manager ?

Thanks for your help

Regards

Vincent



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> I tried ytour button and it wasn't removing the tag
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddly Extension for Firefox 57?

[Yakov]

Hi everybody,

considering TiddlyWiki Classic:

   - yes, Timimi works with it in modern FireFox (with several minor 
   issues, but generally it works even better than TiddlyFox)
   - yes, I and Mark Kerrigan recently put most of the saving methods 
   together at 
   https://classic.tiddlywiki.com/#%5B%5BSetting%20up%20saving%5D%5D . In the 
   future that one will probably be simplified (for instance, once I adapt 
   Timimi to Chrome there probably will be no much need in other extensions, 
   except for cases of strict security limitations; yet the richer ecosystem 
   is, the better)
  - old FireFox (pre 54) with TiddlyFox is also an option, it's just 
  somewhat outdated, so is not included into the list
  - if you need more assistance, I invite you to the 
   https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/tiddlywikiclassic group
   - I haven't tested Beaker Browse, so if anybody shares experience of 
   using it with TWC (especially in the TWC group), I'll be thankful
   
Best regards,

Yakov.

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[tw5] SURVEY: what could a guude TW have that may be lacking in current Covid information resources

[A Gloom]

in current Covid information resources such as sites, news outlets, social 
media

One thing i can think of-- and will be making a tiddler for Mohammad's 
Covid TW-- is a guide on fact-chacking whats being passed around on social 
media and by word of mouth.  It will be a simple tiddler-- a general 
advisory guide to double check everything against official sources and 
having links to FactCheck & Snopes and articles about how easily false 
information is generated and spread.

Everyone sound off...

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki and Coronavirus: March 2020 [Continued...]

[A Gloom]

Birthe,
 

> I wonder will I be listed as a criminal for not owning a mobile?
>

You can join my outlaw organizatin of one currently-- I has not smartphone

you mention something I was trying to spook associates with elsewhere-- 
someone showed a national map of counts from Internet connected 
thermometers and I saying we're seeing a glimpse of a Big Brother app-- 
they'll track your body temp and you get a fever they'll send you an 
email/text message/pop-up/social media DM that you better be self isolating 
or getting tested or be isolated/tested...

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[tw5] Re: Relink, and setting up button widgets for modals

[A Gloom]

my apologies CJ, got sidetracked-- ooh, a snippet of code... navigate the 
recesses of your sponge to see what neat little things I can add to my own 
sponge.

Is "orgname" = "original title"?  Not much use to me, I think, because I 
> change tiddler titles repeatedly, without caring about the original title 
> or the transitions between original title and current title.
>
> If I did need it, though, the full list of all titles in the history of a 
> tiddler would be nice, but I'd probably track that on my own in some sort 
> of change log.
>
> And now I'm thinking:  as often as I wind up tweaking tiddler titles, I'd 
> also be tweaking orgnames too.  So double-tweaking?  More of a mess because 
> I'm forever fiddling with titles and orgnames?
>
> Anyway, all of that paralysis by analysis aside, what problem would 
> orgname solve for you?  Dollars to donuts, I've probably got the same 
> problem and I don't yet know it...
>

my original idea was to have a changelog field with automatic redirect for 
any code snippets through the wiki, but I was using tiddler title which 
when changed would break the reference to the title being used in code 
snippets -- orgname = original name

the idea was because-- for me-- i often have tiddler titles in filters and 
wikitext elements (tabs, select, checkbox, etc) that I have to do a manual 
text field search for  to edit whenever I change a tittler title

but having a field for MANUAL recording of title changes is the best I have 
at the moment because to have it automatic would require enlist operation I 
believe to tack on additonal title changes without overwriting previous 
changes

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