Re: [tw5] Re: Stroll on steroids

[David Gifford]

Hi Mohammad,

Yeah I did it for me, not to share. Then I was so impressed with how fast
the process is, that I shared it as is. There is a lot I would do to change
it before telling people outright to use it.

On Fri, Nov 27, 2020, 10:51 PM Mohammad  wrote:

> David,
> Good efforts and a clean app!
>
> Few comments:
> 1. Why you have hardcoded some styles e.g links color? If somebody like a
> dark them then there will be difficulty in ready low contrast texts!
> 2. The topbar toolbar, on mouse hover on links/texts it shows a white text
> on white background
>
> --Mohammad
>
> On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 2:46:06 AM UTC+3:30 David Gifford wrote:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> At the moment this is just an experiment. It has a lot of clean up
>> necessary to make it publishable as a finished product. But if I get a lot
>> of requests, I may clean this up during my vacation in December.
>>
>> I played with this combination of features and it is really fast.
>>
>> Fast generation of tabs as subtopics of an article.
>> Editor autolists so it is easy to to start new lines and indent in
>> bulleted lists.
>> Modal window button Eric helped me with
>> Everything from Stroll
>>
>> https://giffmex.org/experiments/stroll.on.steroids.html
>>
>> Read the instructions, play with it for half an hour, and let me know
>> what you think.
>>
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[tw5] Re: Stroll on steroids

[Mohammad]

David,
Good efforts and a clean app!

Few comments:
1. Why you have hardcoded some styles e.g links color? If somebody like a 
dark them then there will be difficulty in ready low contrast texts!
2. The topbar toolbar, on mouse hover on links/texts it shows a white text 
on white background

--Mohammad

On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 2:46:06 AM UTC+3:30 David Gifford wrote:

> Hi all
>
> At the moment this is just an experiment. It has a lot of clean up 
> necessary to make it publishable as a finished product. But if I get a lot 
> of requests, I may clean this up during my vacation in December.
>
> I played with this combination of features and it is really fast. 
>
> Fast generation of tabs as subtopics of an article.
> Editor autolists so it is easy to to start new lines and indent in 
> bulleted lists.
> Modal window button Eric helped me with
> Everything from Stroll
>
> https://giffmex.org/experiments/stroll.on.steroids.html
>
> Read the instructions, play with it for half an hour, and let me know what 
> you think.
>

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[tw5] Re: Plugin: Omnibus tiddlers

[Mohammad]

Good progress! Nice tools!

I see new theme and palette in your new release. It would be great to 
announce them and lets interested user download them separately.

Thank you for sharing Chris!

--Mohammad

On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 11:32:19 PM UTC+3:30 clutterstack wrote:

> In case anyone's interested, I have some updated versions of my plugins 
> going at https://clutterstack.github.io/can-tw/workshop/.
>
> It's a never-ending evolution, breaking and fixing and tweaking, but I 
> thought I'd share an imperfect public wiki. The latest version of Omni 
> addresses some of David Gifford's notes: hiding of the toolbar that changes 
> modes, and more sensible placeholder text. I also fixed whole-tiddler 
> folding for omnibuses, which I had broken and then neglected for a long 
> time. 
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
> On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 3:56:02 PM UTC-4 David Gifford wrote:
>
>> Thanks Chris! Look forward to seeing how this develops.
>>
>> On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 1:32:58 PM UTC-6 clutterstack wrote:
>>
>>> Hi David,
>>>
>>> Wow, I'd better have a look at how this plugin has changed since August. 
>>> Thanks so much for your thoughtful feedback! 
>>>
>>> ...It hasn't changed on github, but locally the Omnibus plugin has had a 
>>> lot of work under the hood; maybe not as much superficially. As often 
>>> happens, I had intended to update the public version frequently, but life 
>>> has kept me busy and my own modifications rarely seem quite ready to share 
>>> and document. "Another one bites the dust" was never meant to stay up. Heh. 
>>> It's still there in my local wikis.
>>>
>>> I prefer the title input field beneath the text, because if I'm adding 
>>> within an omnibus I usually don't want to bother with a title -- and if I 
>>> do, often the title comes to me only after I've written its contents. But 
>>> the input fields should certainly identify themselves clearly. This layout 
>>> is specified in my "Quick" plugin,
>>>
>>> The current (my local) version has a tiddler tagged "$:/tags/ViewTemplate" 
>>> to display the Omnibus stuff after the body on tiddlers tagged "omnibus", 
>>> and I have not repaired the effect that has on folding of the whole tiddler 
>>> (i.e. it doesn't fold). That's on my list of things to fix, but it's after 
>>> a lot of other issues that get in the way of my using my wikis. There's a 
>>> snowplow effect of annoyances that don't stop the plugin from functioning 
>>> that I've really ignored -- as with the "omnibus" tag, which just hasn't 
>>> bothered me enough to clean up...yet.
>>>
>>> Incidentally, nearer the start of this odyssey I really wasn't sure to 
>>> what extent I wanted to use tags vs. custom fields, in general. Did I want 
>>> to use several categories of tags, and have some hidden? Did I want lots of 
>>> custom fields? I've become much more comfortable with the idea of adding 
>>> fields to tiddlers.
>>>
>>> As for putting the omnibus-mode icons in the sidebar, certainly that 
>>> must be doable. I do sometimes have more than one omni open, in different 
>>> modes (one may be under intensive construction, another could be just for 
>>> reading, and another a todo list). On my current wikis, only the top 
>>> omnibus shows the mode-selection icons and sub-omnis follow its setting, so 
>>> it's less cluttered. I can see the desirability of cleaning the interface 
>>> for publishing read-only omnis. Maybe a view-mode toolbar button to toggle 
>>> the mode icons? Then it could be per-tiddler.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Chris
>>> On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 10:51:47 AM UTC-4 David Gifford wrote:
>>>
 Hi clutterstack

 Here are my reactions:

 1. That export tab is a stroke of genius! Time saver for exporting 
 multiple-but-not-all tiddlers.
 2. That drag tags tab is also a stroke of genius. I don't use tags that 
 much, but that is a great idea.
 3. It took me a while to figure out that effectively, the Another one 
 bites the dust is the text field editor and the Title is the title editor. 
 I am so used to seeing title on top and text below. And since they are 
 headers, that reinforced my idea that the top was the tiddler title, which 
 made me wonder what the title field was for. Not saying you should change 
 anything, just letting you know of my confusion. Or perhaps replace 
 Another 
 one bites the dust with Text or something that identifies what it is for.
 4. Not a fan of having an omnibus tag for omnibus tiddlers, since that 
 might be confusing to viewers if I publish a file online, but I tend to 
 hide the tags field in view mode anyway, so it won't affect me.
 5. Amazing that it all comes toghether so well, expand/collapse 
 individually or collectively, change editing options or show clean, drag 
 to 
 rearrange, add new in the place where you want it. Also the interface is 
 not overly invasive/cluttered, and you can hide various elemen

[tw5] Re: My amazing you tube Video.....:)

[Mohammad]

Thank you David!

Cheers
Mohammad

On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 2:47:47 AM UTC+3:30 David Gifford wrote:

> I think I found it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEQWc-alBMQ&t=249s
>
> On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 11:53:44 AM UTC-6 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Hi Ste,
>>  Congrats! Would you mind to share the link here?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Mohammad
>>
>> On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 2:04:07 PM UTC+3:30 Ste wrote:
>>
>>> Well, it's not that amazing (I say 'Er' an awful lot)...a while ago I 
>>> put up a quick intro to TiddlyWiki video in the hope of enticing my 
>>> colleagues to the dark side.
>>>
>>> Despite me putting up many more really interesting (read 'really niche 
>>> engineering content') videos up for my students the TiddlyWiki video is my 
>>> most watched one.  It's not going to let me retire on the youtube revenue 
>>> (only just over 1000 views) but does seem to come up regularly in 
>>> searches.  This suggests to me that TiddlyWiki visibility on youtube is 
>>> quite lowas there is no other reason I'd be appearing on searches :D
>>>
>>> So...get screencasting people... let us tell the world! :D
>>>
>>> Ste
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: [HELP] Tiddlyserver Update

[Kei]

 I normally launch Tiddlyserver on cmd by tiddlyserver --config.

My personal files is located inside the tiddlyserver directory. When I 
inputted npm install -g tiddlyserver@latest, the error occurred and when I 
checked the directory in node_modules, there's no tiddlyserver directory 
anymore. I checked the recycled bin but the files aren't there so I don't 
know where it went :/ 

Sorry, I don't know what administrator box is, what is it? Anyways, thanks 
for the reply!


On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 11:05:05 PM UTC+8 Mark S. wrote:

> Arlen would be the best person to answer, but while we're waiting I'll ask 
> some questions.
>
> How do you normally launch tiddlyserver? An upgrade to ts shouldn't affect 
> your personal
> files unless you did some unusual like putting them into the node_modules 
> directory.
>
> So if you can remember how you launch, then you should be able to find the 
> configuration
> that will tell you (or remind you) where your personal files are. With TS, 
> your personal files
> could be anywhere on the system, depending on configuration.  So your 
> personal files should
> be there -- you just have to remember where.
>
> Looking at the logs, it appears that ts didn't have enough permissions to 
> complete it's process. 
> Possibly if you opened an administrator box and ran the upgrade it would 
> complete. Perhaps
> that is what you did when you first installed and have forgotten. But, 
> like I said, you might
> want to wait for other input.
>
> Good luck!
>
> On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 5:50:05 AM UTC-8 Kei wrote:
>
>> (Sorry had to repost) Hello so I found out that there was an update in 
>> Tiddlyserver so I immediately went straight to the getting started guide 
>> and I ran npm install -g tiddlyserver@latest in the cmd since I already 
>> have tiddlyserver installed. The problem is after entering that, I got a 
>> message from cmd saying that there's an error along with the debug log. I 
>> checked the directory in node_modules and there's no tiddlyserver anymore 
>> along with my wikis. I once again typed npm install -g 
>> tiddlyserver@latest this in and that when the tiddlyserver directory 
>> appeared but my wiki is not there ofc. Now I can't seem to find my server 
>> config, files, and wikis anywhere and I'm afraid that I can't retrieve it 
>> anymore. I have a backup but it was last updated 2 weeks or so ago, I 
>> haven't downloaded the latest HTML file so yea.
>>
>> I guess it's partially my fault since I didn't read the instructions 
>> further but can anyone clarify about this, thank you!
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: My amazing you tube Video.....:)

[Ste]

You have tracked me down! 

On Friday, 27 November 2020 at 23:17:47 UTC David Gifford wrote:

> I think I found it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEQWc-alBMQ&t=249s
>
> On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 11:53:44 AM UTC-6 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Hi Ste,
>>  Congrats! Would you mind to share the link here?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Mohammad
>>
>> On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 2:04:07 PM UTC+3:30 Ste wrote:
>>
>>> Well, it's not that amazing (I say 'Er' an awful lot)...a while ago I 
>>> put up a quick intro to TiddlyWiki video in the hope of enticing my 
>>> colleagues to the dark side.
>>>
>>> Despite me putting up many more really interesting (read 'really niche 
>>> engineering content') videos up for my students the TiddlyWiki video is my 
>>> most watched one.  It's not going to let me retire on the youtube revenue 
>>> (only just over 1000 views) but does seem to come up regularly in 
>>> searches.  This suggests to me that TiddlyWiki visibility on youtube is 
>>> quite lowas there is no other reason I'd be appearing on searches :D
>>>
>>> So...get screencasting people... let us tell the world! :D
>>>
>>> Ste
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: My amazing you tube Video.....:)

[David Gifford]

I think I found it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEQWc-alBMQ&t=249s

On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 11:53:44 AM UTC-6 Mohammad wrote:

> Hi Ste,
>  Congrats! Would you mind to share the link here?
>
> Cheers
> Mohammad
>
> On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 2:04:07 PM UTC+3:30 Ste wrote:
>
>> Well, it's not that amazing (I say 'Er' an awful lot)...a while ago I put 
>> up a quick intro to TiddlyWiki video in the hope of enticing my colleagues 
>> to the dark side.
>>
>> Despite me putting up many more really interesting (read 'really niche 
>> engineering content') videos up for my students the TiddlyWiki video is my 
>> most watched one.  It's not going to let me retire on the youtube revenue 
>> (only just over 1000 views) but does seem to come up regularly in 
>> searches.  This suggests to me that TiddlyWiki visibility on youtube is 
>> quite lowas there is no other reason I'd be appearing on searches :D
>>
>> So...get screencasting people... let us tell the world! :D
>>
>> Ste
>>
>

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[tw5] Stroll on steroids

[David Gifford]

Hi all

At the moment this is just an experiment. It has a lot of clean up 
necessary to make it publishable as a finished product. But if I get a lot 
of requests, I may clean this up during my vacation in December.

I played with this combination of features and it is really fast. 

Fast generation of tabs as subtopics of an article.
Editor autolists so it is easy to to start new lines and indent in bulleted 
lists.
Modal window button Eric helped me with
Everything from Stroll

https://giffmex.org/experiments/stroll.on.steroids.html

Read the instructions, play with it for half an hour, and let me know what 
you think.

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[tw5] Re: Getting Started using node.js ... TiddlyWiki is not connecting

[Joshua Fontany]

IF you have installed Tiddlywiki globally as a node.js package, you can 
invoke it with just "tiddlywiki" in the command (which it looks like you 
have done).

So, when starting the server on either device, you can have the "command 
line directory" set to anything you want if you pass the full (or relative) 
path from there to where your wiki is located. The below would be 
equivalent if your command prompt reads " C:\Users\Fred>  " as it does in 
your example.

tiddlywiki '../../Wikis/mynewwiki' --listen  
OR
tiddlywiki 'C:/Wikis/mynewwiki' --listen

If you do give the full path to your SD drive, then you are giving node.js 
permission to actively read/write from the SD card as your wiki changes. It 
might be better on your PC to have the wiki in a folder on your hard-drive, 
and then sync to and from the SD card when you want to sync the copies.

I use the Free File Sync app @ https://freefilesync.org/ to synchronize a 
set of QWikis between 2 PCs, by syncing to the Wikis folder to an external 
HDD, and then syncing that Wikis folder to the other PC's hard-drive.

Best,
Joshua F
On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 3:25:42 PM UTC-8 Fred Rasmussen wrote:

> I get the following:
> C:\Users\Fred>tiddlywiki mynewwiki --listen
>  syncer-server-filesystem: Dispatching 'save' task: $:/StoryList
> Serving on http://127.0.0.1:8080
> (press ctrl-C to exit)
>
> Ha. I see that now when I navigate to the IP address, I see the new wiki 
> page!
> I tried adding a new tiddler and confirmed that the new tiddler has been 
> saved!
>
> I notice node.js is doing the work in whatever directory the command line 
> goes to by default. If my goal is to sneeker-net myNewWiki between two 
> separate PC's, should I perform the server tasks in the same removable 
> drive path or does it make any difference? Seems to me all I need is a 
> server with Node.js and a copy of TiddlyWiki running on each.
>
> Thanks for your help today.
>
> On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 9:50:16 AM UTC-5 Mark S. wrote:
>
>> What do you see in the terminal when running:
>>
>> tiddlywiki mynewwiki --listen
>>
>> (where mynewwiki is the name of your wiki).
>>
>> On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 6:18:23 AM UTC-8 fred.ra...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> When I tried following the instructions for  
>>> Installing TiddlyWiki  
>>> on Node.js (https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5)
>>>
>>> Steps 1-4 went fine. I was able to confirm that TiddlyWiki was installed.
>>>
>>> I got as far as Step 5: "Visit http://127.0.0.1:8080/ in your browser" 
>>> where my Firefox browser came back with "unable to connect".
>>>
>>> Just for a little background: I'm hoping to store my TiddlyWiki files on 
>>> an SD card and swap it regularly between my desktop and laptop PC's. Cloud 
>>> storage is not an option.
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: Filter operator for grouping by removing suffix

[TW Tones]

scheuer.

I am building extensive public documentation, based on others work as 
well,  on the details of many things including the """ see here 


Tones 

On Friday, 27 November 2020 at 20:29:14 UTC+11 scheuer...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thank you so much for this detailed example!
>
> I have two questions:
> 1) What do the three """ mean? Could you also just use one " or do the 
> three have a special function?
> 2) I never really understood what the syntax <__pfx__> does. I get the 
> $name$ and $(name)$ - but the other macro notations don´t come easily to me.
>
> Mark S. schrieb am Donnerstag, 26. November 2020 um 19:53:22 UTC+1:
>
>> Something like the code below can do what you seem to want. But it's kind 
>> of complicated and
>> messy, requiring helper macros and the wikify widget. It's much easier if 
>> construct your tiddlers 
>> according to basic database design principles.
>>
>> The first principle of database design is that you don't store multiple 
>> pieces of information in a 
>> single field. Unfortunately TW gets you off to a bad start, with the 
>> title field already performing at
>> least 3 different functions.
>>
>> If you put year, month, week, and day all into their own fields, then it 
>> becomes much easier 
>> and understandable to create report tiddlers. It could probably be done 
>> in one or two list
>> widgets in 5.1.23prerelease using the new sortsub operator.
>>
>> Ok, here's the code using your existing setup:
>>
>> \define listdays(pfx)
>> <$list filter="""[prefix<__pfx__>]""" variable="thing1">
>> <$list filter="""[split[-]nth[5]]"""/>
>> 
>> \end
>>
>> \define listweek2(pfx daynum)
>> 
>> <$list filter="""[prefix[$pfx$$daynum$]]""" >
>>
>> 
>> 
>> \end
>>
>> \define listweek(pfx)
>> $pfx$
>> <$wikify text="""<>""" name=daylist>
>> <$list filter="""[enlistsort[]]""" variable=daynum>
>> <$macrocall $name=listweek2 pfx=<<__pfx__>> daynum=<> />
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> \end
>>
>> <>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 6:17:53 AM UTC-8 scheuer...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> I just can´t wrap my head around this one, now have been trying 
>>> different things for a couple of hours :(
>>>
>>> I have several tiddlers with the name scheme:
>>> *$:/weekplan-2020-11-48-23-Monday-1*
>>>
>>> * $:/weekplan-2020-11-48-23-Monday-2*
>>>
>>> * $:/weekplan-2020-11-48-23-Monday-3 *
>>>
>>> * $:/weekplan-2020-11-48-24-Wednesday-1 *
>>>
>>> * $:/weekplan-2020-11-48-24-Wednesday-2 *
>>>
>>> * $:/weekplan-2020-11-48-25-Thursday-1 *
>>> * $:/weekplan-2020-11-48-23-Thursday-2*
>>> *...*
>>>
>>> The numbers are: Year, Month, Week number, day of month, day of week, 
>>> number counting
>>>
>>> I now want to show in a table all the tiddlers with year 2020, month 11, 
>>> week 48 and the ones with the same day should be in one table row in 
>>> different columns.
>>>
>>> I manage to filter all the tiddlers with the matching year, month and 
>>> week by the *prefix/removeprefix* filter operator. Now I don´t get it 
>>> how to group these tiddlers with the same day by removing the suffix number 
>>> counting resulting in something like this:
>>>
>>>
>>> *23-Monday-1 23-Monday-2 23-Monday-3 *
>>>
>>> * 24-Wednesday-1 24-Wednesday-2 *
>>> * 25-Thursday-1 23-Thursday-2*
>>>
>>> Can I use the subfilter operator for that? Or is there a filter operator 
>>> I am missing?
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>> Christoph
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: How

[TW Tones]

vpl,

You may need the temporary value stored for some reason, but sometimes it 
is possible to simply calculate it each time you need it. 

For others reading this thread the macros from vpl and Eric are used inside 
a trigger such as the button widget to get the action-setfield to work.

Tones 

On Saturday, 28 November 2020 at 07:24:34 UTC+11 vpl wrote:

> Arg how do you do that ... like a magic wand that tells you that you 
> will not be able to redo it yourself ...
>
> Many thanks. It works perfectly
>
> Regards
>
> Le vendredi 27 novembre 2020 à 20:42:43 UTC+1, Eric Shulman a écrit :
>
>> On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 10:06:00 AM UTC-8 vpl wrote:
>>
>>> When I run the below code, the <> is not the *title *of 
>>> the filtered tiddler but the date value !!! So at the end the 
>>> action-setfield is applied on new tiddler whose title is the date value and 
>>> not my existing 'test-1" tiddlers.
>>>
>> \define my_test()
>>> <$list filter="[tag[test-1]get[date]compare:date:gt{!!testval}]">
>>><$action-setfield $tiddler=<> $field="tempid" 
>>> $value="4"/>
>>> 
>>> \end 
>>>
>>
>> Split the filter into two separate $list widgets, like this:
>> \define my_test()
>> <$vars testval={{!!testval}}>
>> <$list filter="[tag[test-1]]">
>><$list filter="[get[date]compare:date:gt]" 
>> variable="checkdate">
>>   <$action-setfield tempid="4"/>
>>
>> 
>> 
>> \end 
>>
>> Notes:
>> * $vars gets the testval from the tiddler in which the macro is invoked
>> * the first $list finds all tiddlers with the desired tag and sets 
>> currentTiddler
>> * the second $list compares the date of the currentTiddler to the testval
>> * the second $list uses the variable="..." syntax to avoid changing the 
>> value of the currentTiddler
>> * $action-setfield sets the tempid field value in the currentTiddler
>>
>> enjoy,
>> -e
>>
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[tw5] Re: How

[vpl]

Arg how do you do that ... like a magic wand that tells you that you 
will not be able to redo it yourself ...

Many thanks. It works perfectly

Regards

Le vendredi 27 novembre 2020 à 20:42:43 UTC+1, Eric Shulman a écrit :

> On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 10:06:00 AM UTC-8 vpl wrote:
>
>> When I run the below code, the <> is not the *title *of 
>> the filtered tiddler but the date value !!! So at the end the 
>> action-setfield is applied on new tiddler whose title is the date value and 
>> not my existing 'test-1" tiddlers.
>>
> \define my_test()
>> <$list filter="[tag[test-1]get[date]compare:date:gt{!!testval}]">
>><$action-setfield $tiddler=<> $field="tempid" 
>> $value="4"/>
>> 
>> \end 
>>
>
> Split the filter into two separate $list widgets, like this:
> \define my_test()
> <$vars testval={{!!testval}}>
> <$list filter="[tag[test-1]]">
><$list filter="[get[date]compare:date:gt]" 
> variable="checkdate">
>   <$action-setfield tempid="4"/>
>
> 
> 
> \end 
>
> Notes:
> * $vars gets the testval from the tiddler in which the macro is invoked
> * the first $list finds all tiddlers with the desired tag and sets 
> currentTiddler
> * the second $list compares the date of the currentTiddler to the testval
> * the second $list uses the variable="..." syntax to avoid changing the 
> value of the currentTiddler
> * $action-setfield sets the tempid field value in the currentTiddler
>
> enjoy,
> -e
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Making a custom Journal button

[Linda Bayley]

BTC,

I’m so relieved to learn this is a bug! Thanks for your quick reply.

-Linda B.


> On Nov 27, 2020, at 12:27 PM, BurningTreeC  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Linda, this is a Bug in the tiddlywiki version 5.1.22 which will be 
> solved with the upcoming version 5.1.23
> 
> I cannot recommend upgrading to the current prerelease now, but the 5.1.23 
> release shouldn't be that far away. Sorry that I don't have a better solution 
> for you right now :(
> 
> all the best, BTC
> 
> lmba...@bell.net schrieb am Freitag, 27. November 2020 um 18:00:27 UTC+1:
>> I’ve tried the instructions on the tiddlywiki.com website for “Making a 
>> custom Journal button”. I’ve managed to create a Journal-type tiddler with 
>> the same format of title, no custom text, and a different tag. This template 
>> is called NewAnomaly.
>> 
>> Now in my Table of Contents and List-Links macros, the 
>> $:/config/NewAnomaly/Tags tiddler itself is listed. (This also sometimes 
>> happens with Journal tiddlers in the basic TOC macro.)
>> 
>> What change do I need to make to these macros so that that shadow tiddler 
>> doesn’t show up in the list? I have Googled for hours and can’t make sense 
>> of it.
>> 
>> I’m using Quine 2 for iOS on an ipad. I don’t know whether the container 
>> makes a difference in this problem, so I’m starting with this forum in the 
>> hopes that someone can rescue me.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> -Linda Bayley
>> 
>> 
>>> On Monday, June 29, 2020 at 8:55:48 PM UTC-4 TW Tones wrote:
>>> Robert,
>>> 
>>> In Control Panel > Info > basics you can set the default Text for new 
>>> journal tiddlers but these are a special type of tiddler, a journal.
>>> 
>>> However may I respectfully suggest there is a better way to do things than 
>>> plump up every tiddler you create with text. 
>>> 
>>> We can make a custom new tiddler button that uses default text or a 
>>> template if you want, however I think it better to move such things into 
>>> the viewTemplate and have it display according to particular conditions, so 
>>> you can have more than one tiddler type and content. Also why store 
>>> reoccurring text?
>>> 
>>> Remember there are multiple ways to create a tiddlers, so rather than make 
>>> every way create a custom tiddler confirm to you requirement why not make a 
>>> button to generate a custom tiddler when needed?
>>> 
>>> A Cheats approach it to just clone a default tiddler pre-configured the way 
>>> you want, or make a button just for your custom tiddlers, the other is to 
>>> make new from template buttons.
>>> 
>>> There are even better ways but I wont complicate matters.
>>> 
>>> Perhaps you could explain why you wish to do this? and I can share a better 
>>> way.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> Tony
>>> 
>>> 
 On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 at 5:56:19 AM UTC+10, Robert Jopling wrote:
 Please forgive me me if this has been answered before but
 How do you add default text and tags to all new tiddlers?
 
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[tw5] Re: Plugin: Omnibus tiddlers

[clutterstack]

In case anyone's interested, I have some updated versions of my plugins 
going at https://clutterstack.github.io/can-tw/workshop/.

It's a never-ending evolution, breaking and fixing and tweaking, but I 
thought I'd share an imperfect public wiki. The latest version of Omni 
addresses some of David Gifford's notes: hiding of the toolbar that changes 
modes, and more sensible placeholder text. I also fixed whole-tiddler 
folding for omnibuses, which I had broken and then neglected for a long 
time. 

Cheers,
Chris
On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 3:56:02 PM UTC-4 David Gifford wrote:

> Thanks Chris! Look forward to seeing how this develops.
>
> On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 1:32:58 PM UTC-6 clutterstack wrote:
>
>> Hi David,
>>
>> Wow, I'd better have a look at how this plugin has changed since August. 
>> Thanks so much for your thoughtful feedback! 
>>
>> ...It hasn't changed on github, but locally the Omnibus plugin has had a 
>> lot of work under the hood; maybe not as much superficially. As often 
>> happens, I had intended to update the public version frequently, but life 
>> has kept me busy and my own modifications rarely seem quite ready to share 
>> and document. "Another one bites the dust" was never meant to stay up. Heh. 
>> It's still there in my local wikis.
>>
>> I prefer the title input field beneath the text, because if I'm adding 
>> within an omnibus I usually don't want to bother with a title -- and if I 
>> do, often the title comes to me only after I've written its contents. But 
>> the input fields should certainly identify themselves clearly. This layout 
>> is specified in my "Quick" plugin,
>>
>> The current (my local) version has a tiddler tagged "$:/tags/ViewTemplate" 
>> to display the Omnibus stuff after the body on tiddlers tagged "omnibus", 
>> and I have not repaired the effect that has on folding of the whole tiddler 
>> (i.e. it doesn't fold). That's on my list of things to fix, but it's after 
>> a lot of other issues that get in the way of my using my wikis. There's a 
>> snowplow effect of annoyances that don't stop the plugin from functioning 
>> that I've really ignored -- as with the "omnibus" tag, which just hasn't 
>> bothered me enough to clean up...yet.
>>
>> Incidentally, nearer the start of this odyssey I really wasn't sure to 
>> what extent I wanted to use tags vs. custom fields, in general. Did I want 
>> to use several categories of tags, and have some hidden? Did I want lots of 
>> custom fields? I've become much more comfortable with the idea of adding 
>> fields to tiddlers.
>>
>> As for putting the omnibus-mode icons in the sidebar, certainly that must 
>> be doable. I do sometimes have more than one omni open, in different modes 
>> (one may be under intensive construction, another could be just for 
>> reading, and another a todo list). On my current wikis, only the top 
>> omnibus shows the mode-selection icons and sub-omnis follow its setting, so 
>> it's less cluttered. I can see the desirability of cleaning the interface 
>> for publishing read-only omnis. Maybe a view-mode toolbar button to toggle 
>> the mode icons? Then it could be per-tiddler.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Chris
>> On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 10:51:47 AM UTC-4 David Gifford wrote:
>>
>>> Hi clutterstack
>>>
>>> Here are my reactions:
>>>
>>> 1. That export tab is a stroke of genius! Time saver for exporting 
>>> multiple-but-not-all tiddlers.
>>> 2. That drag tags tab is also a stroke of genius. I don't use tags that 
>>> much, but that is a great idea.
>>> 3. It took me a while to figure out that effectively, the Another one 
>>> bites the dust is the text field editor and the Title is the title editor. 
>>> I am so used to seeing title on top and text below. And since they are 
>>> headers, that reinforced my idea that the top was the tiddler title, which 
>>> made me wonder what the title field was for. Not saying you should change 
>>> anything, just letting you know of my confusion. Or perhaps replace Another 
>>> one bites the dust with Text or something that identifies what it is for.
>>> 4. Not a fan of having an omnibus tag for omnibus tiddlers, since that 
>>> might be confusing to viewers if I publish a file online, but I tend to 
>>> hide the tags field in view mode anyway, so it won't affect me.
>>> 5. Amazing that it all comes toghether so well, expand/collapse 
>>> individually or collectively, change editing options or show clean, drag to 
>>> rearrange, add new in the place where you want it. Also the interface is 
>>> not overly invasive/cluttered, and you can hide various elements as needed. 
>>> Great, great job.
>>> 6. Could the three editing options icons be in the sidebar rather than 
>>> at the top of the tiddler? I say this because for publishing a file online, 
>>> whether as static html or as the TiddlyWiki file, those icons are still 
>>> visible in the text and will confuse viewers for whom I just want them to 
>>> focus on the final content produced.

[tw5] Re: showing a section of text from a template only when the field is present

[Eric Shulman]

On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 11:27:24 AM UTC-8 jutta@googlemail.com 
wrote:

> in my template I have something like:
> Name: {{!!char_name}}, alias: {{!!alias}}
> on my actual Charakter tiddler I only have the field char_name, but not 
> alias, so it renders to
> Name: John Doe, alias:
> and I would like to find a way to hide the ",alias: " part completely in 
> that case.
>

Try this:
{{!!char_name}}<$list filter="[has[alias]]">, alias: 
{{!!alias}}

Notes:
* the has[alias] operator only returns the currentTiddler if the alias 
field is non-blank
* if you wanted to allow a blank alias field (but still require the field 
to exist), use has:field[alias] instead

enjoy,
-e 

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[tw5] Re: How

[Eric Shulman]

On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 10:06:00 AM UTC-8 vpl wrote:

> When I run the below code, the <> is not the *title *of 
> the filtered tiddler but the date value !!! So at the end the 
> action-setfield is applied on new tiddler whose title is the date value and 
> not my existing 'test-1" tiddlers.
>
\define my_test()
> <$list filter="[tag[test-1]get[date]compare:date:gt{!!testval}]">
><$action-setfield $tiddler=<> $field="tempid" 
> $value="4"/>
> 
> \end 
>

Split the filter into two separate $list widgets, like this:
\define my_test()
<$vars testval={{!!testval}}>
<$list filter="[tag[test-1]]">
   <$list filter="[get[date]compare:date:gt]" 
variable="checkdate">
  <$action-setfield tempid="4"/>
   


\end 

Notes:
* $vars gets the testval from the tiddler in which the macro is invoked
* the first $list finds all tiddlers with the desired tag and sets 
currentTiddler
* the second $list compares the date of the currentTiddler to the testval
* the second $list uses the variable="..." syntax to avoid changing the 
value of the currentTiddler
* $action-setfield sets the tempid field value in the currentTiddler

enjoy,
-e

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[tw5] showing a section of text from a template only when the field is present

['MissyLaMotte' via TiddlyWiki]

Hi,

I am relatively new to TiddlyWiki (I did use the classic version before, 
though) and I am trying to find my way around. Here is what I am trying to 
do.

I am writing a novel and I want to keep my character list in a TiddlyWiki. 
I made a template for how I want my character information to be shown, 
using fields. For a new character I then just fill out all desired fields 
and transclude it into the template. It works fine, so I think I have the 
general mechanism down. Now, some fields don't apply for all characters, so 
they can be left empty. in that case, I would like to be able to hide that 
portion of text.

So, in my template I have something like:
Name: {{!!char_name}}, alias: {{!!alias}}

on my actual Charakter tiddler I only have the field char_name, but not 
alias, so it renders to
Name: John Doe, alias:

and I would like to find a way to hide the ",alias: " part completely in 
that case. I have a feeling it can be done with filters and (has then else) 
somehow, but I don't get the syntax correct. Can anyone with more 
experience help me out, please?

Thanks,
Jutta

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[tw5] How

[vpl]

Hi,

I want to update the field of tiddlers that have been filtered based on a 
compare operator ..
I have a set of tiddlers taged "test-1"
Each of them have a "date" field which stores a specific MMDD
I want to filter all of these tiddlers whose date value is greated than 
{!!testval}
And for each tiddler I want to set a specific field ('tempid') with a value

When I run the below code, the <> is note the *title *of 
the filtered tiddler bur the date value !!! So at the end the 
action-setfield is applied on new tiddler whose title is the date value and 
not my existing 'test-1" tiddlers.
It turns around this <> that I do not use correctly but 
cannot figure out how to solve it ...

Any expert who could help .. ??
Many thanks in advance
Vpl

\define my_test()
<$list filter="[tag[test-1]get[date]compare:date:gt{!!testval}]">
   <$action-setfield $tiddler=<> $field="tempid" 
$value="4"/>

\end 

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[tw5] Re: My amazing you tube Video.....:)

[Mohammad]

Hi Ste,
 Congrats! Would you mind to share the link here?

Cheers
Mohammad

On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 2:04:07 PM UTC+3:30 Ste wrote:

> Well, it's not that amazing (I say 'Er' an awful lot)...a while ago I put 
> up a quick intro to TiddlyWiki video in the hope of enticing my colleagues 
> to the dark side.
>
> Despite me putting up many more really interesting (read 'really niche 
> engineering content') videos up for my students the TiddlyWiki video is my 
> most watched one.  It's not going to let me retire on the youtube revenue 
> (only just over 1000 views) but does seem to come up regularly in 
> searches.  This suggests to me that TiddlyWiki visibility on youtube is 
> quite lowas there is no other reason I'd be appearing on searches :D
>
> So...get screencasting people... let us tell the world! :D
>
> Ste
>

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki best practices

[Mohammad]

Springer,

I really like your Tiddlywikis act as course pages with all related 
materials. One difference between my own wikis with yours is I keep 
information in a loose format while you arrange them in a dense format! By 
this I mean I have little information per tiddler, most of them are 
visible, I use fields for special purposes so I use the rich environment of 
Tiddlywiki but in its simple possible form. Like you I am a big fan of 
dynamic tables.

I also use Tiddlywiki for Homework. Students submit their homework as a 
Tiddlywiki single file. It is a standard one I distribute to them. (with 
Relink + Shiraz+ favorites+ comment+ todo+ commander + Highlight.js + KaTeX)

Using comment plugin I can review and comment their solution and return to 
them.

I also use Tiddlywiki + Tiddlyshow for lecturing!

I also distribute some course materials as plugin. I learned this from 
Xavier Cazin. For example they can download a plugin called: Root finding. 
This plugin contains all my course notes, pyhton codes, ... in a form of 
plugin regarding root fining for scalar algebraic equations. So, they can 
play with them add their own notes, ... but they always have my original 
course notes in their Course Tiddlywiki.


Cheers
Mohammad

On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 11:27:15 PM UTC+3:30 springer wrote:

> Cl0d, exactly what I find marvelous about TiddlyWiki is how much it can be 
> molded to very different purposes. I maintain different TW5 projects for 
> different purposes, with different plugin sets and other customizations 
> suited to the purposes of each project. 
>
> Two things that I suspect I do more than most people are:
>
> (1) Make a dynamic table, using the Shiraz plugin,  for virtually every 
> important tag. It offers a great compact way to get the big picture on any 
> slice that interests me. I used to use TOC-style tiddlers for this purpose, 
> and that structure still has uses, but the dynamic table is more powerful. 
> I love that I can structure each such dynamic table to focus on the fields 
> that are important for that particular tag. (Of course, you can build a 
> dynamic table around criteria other than tags, but that's my main workhorse 
> use.) I also tend to populate my stylesheet with tag-specific css, so that 
> there are clear visual cues as to which kind of tiddler we're looking at. 
> (I use TW for teaching. So, a quiz question tiddler has a look and feel 
> that differs from an author-specific tiddler or a definition tiddler or a 
> tiddler focused on excerpts from the readings, etc.)
>
> (2) Liberally employ a "details" GUI for things that I don't want to see 
> (or don't want to show to students) unless/until it's time to dig in 
> deeper. I use telmiger's details plugin, because it's super-flexible about 
> the contents within the details area (allows any formatting or markup you 
> can think of within the hidden "pocket" area). But to put ordinary text 
> elaboration into a details "pocket," Shiraz's details function is simple 
> and great too.
>
> If you'd like to poke around on one of my teaching sites, feel free to 
> visit this link: 
> https://springerspandrel.github.io/tw/ethicsatwes.html#TiddlyWiki
>
> Enjoy the adventure of discovering the possibilities!
>
> -Springer 
> On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 2:06:10 PM UTC-5 Cl0d wrote:
>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> Been using TiddlyWiki for a few weeks now. I'm still learning how to cope 
>> with the enormous potential offered by TiddlyWiki.
>>
>> For example, I discovered today that it was possible to create a dynamic 
>> table of content using keywords. 
>>
>> So I was wondering, what are your best practices, or let's say, advices, 
>> for using TiddlyWiki ? How does your "basic wiki" look like ? What plugins 
>> and/or custom features do you use ? 
>>
>> I'm still in a transitional phase, meaning that I'm writing my new notes 
>> in TiddlyWiki to get used to it and I'm at the same time trying to discover 
>> new tools to organize my future wiki's in the best way possible.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for every answer.
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Making a custom Journal button

[BurningTreeC]

Hi Linda, this is a Bug in the tiddlywiki version 5.1.22 which will be 
solved with the upcoming version 5.1.23

I cannot recommend upgrading to the current prerelease now, but the 5.1.23 
release shouldn't be that far away. Sorry that I don't have a better 
solution for you right now :(

all the best, BTC

lmba...@bell.net schrieb am Freitag, 27. November 2020 um 18:00:27 UTC+1:

> I’ve tried the instructions on the tiddlywiki.com website for “Making a 
> custom Journal button”. I’ve managed to create a Journal-type tiddler with 
> the same format of title, no custom text, and a different tag. This 
> template is called NewAnomaly.
>
> Now in my Table of Contents and List-Links macros, 
> the $:/config/NewAnomaly/Tags tiddler itself is listed. (This also 
> sometimes happens with Journal tiddlers in the basic TOC macro.)
>
> What change do I need to make to these macros so that that shadow tiddler 
> doesn’t show up in the list? I have Googled for hours and can’t make sense 
> of it.
>
> I’m using Quine 2 for iOS on an ipad. I don’t know whether the container 
> makes a difference in this problem, so I’m starting with this forum in the 
> hopes that someone can rescue me.
>
> Thank you,
>
> -Linda Bayley
>
>
> On Monday, June 29, 2020 at 8:55:48 PM UTC-4 TW Tones wrote:
>
>> Robert,
>>
>> In Control Panel > Info > basics you can set the default Text for new 
>> journal tiddlers 
>>  but these 
>> are a special type of tiddler, a journal.
>>
>> However may I respectfully suggest there is a better way to do things 
>> than plump up every tiddler you create with text. 
>>
>> We can make a custom new tiddler button that uses default text or a 
>> template if you want, however I think it better to move such things into 
>> the viewTemplate and have it display according to particular conditions, so 
>> you can have more than one tiddler type and content. Also why store 
>> reoccurring text?
>>
>> Remember there are multiple ways to create a tiddlers, so rather than 
>> make every way create a custom tiddler confirm to you requirement why not 
>> make a button to generate a custom tiddler when needed?
>>
>> A Cheats approach it to just clone a default tiddler pre-configured the 
>> way you want, or make a button just for your custom tiddlers, the other is 
>> to make new from template buttons.
>>
>> There are even better ways but I wont complicate matters.
>>
>> *Perhaps you could explain why you wish to do this? and I can share a 
>> better way.*
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 at 5:56:19 AM UTC+10, Robert Jopling wrote:
>>>
>>> Please forgive me me if this has been answered before but
>>>
>>> How do you add default text and tags to all new tiddlers?
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki best practices

[Mohammad]

CI0d,
While you got some good replies from right people I would like to add my 
two cents:
You use Word processor like (MS Word, LibreOffice Write, Google Doc,... or 
similar) do you put all your writings in on document? For example consider 
me as a PhD student
I store my manuscripts each in their own file e.g  a docx (MS Word), 
progress reports in their own files (but in one folder), thesis report in 
its own file (even each chapter in a separate file in one folder),... you 
may for example create a master document to build your thesis report for 
chapters,

Tiddlywiki is the same, keep different things in different Tiddlywikis.
Don't put learning notes about Tiddlywiki in the same wiki you prepared as 
a monthly report for your supervisor. Keep monthly reports in separate 
wikis.
You work on a research project say: COVID-19, use a separate wiki and store 
all related research notes, links to resources, webpages, ... in that wiki


I see each Tiddlywiki like a Word document, so I don't expect it to keep 
everything for me  from grocery list to my lecture notes, recent 
manuscript, my talk for xx conference, TW learning notes, Q&A from GG, bla 
bla ... 



Those who use Tiddlywiki as a comprehensive second brain, they mostly use 
it for notes! In most cases it is just like Mr Woopee and hos closet 


--Mohammad

On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 10:36:10 PM UTC+3:30 Cl0d wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> Been using TiddlyWiki for a few weeks now. I'm still learning how to cope 
> with the enormous potential offered by TiddlyWiki.
>
> For example, I discovered today that it was possible to create a dynamic 
> table of content using keywords. 
>
> So I was wondering, what are your best practices, or let's say, advices, 
> for using TiddlyWiki ? How does your "basic wiki" look like ? What plugins 
> and/or custom features do you use ? 
>
> I'm still in a transitional phase, meaning that I'm writing my new notes 
> in TiddlyWiki to get used to it and I'm at the same time trying to discover 
> new tools to organize my future wiki's in the best way possible.
>
> Thanks in advance for every answer.
>

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[tw5] Re: Making a custom Journal button

[Linda B]

I’ve tried the instructions on the tiddlywiki.com website for “Making a 
custom Journal button”. I’ve managed to create a Journal-type tiddler with 
the same format of title, no custom text, and a different tag. This 
template is called NewAnomaly.

Now in my Table of Contents and List-Links macros, 
the $:/config/NewAnomaly/Tags tiddler itself is listed. (This also 
sometimes happens with Journal tiddlers in the basic TOC macro.)

What change do I need to make to these macros so that that shadow tiddler 
doesn’t show up in the list? I have Googled for hours and can’t make sense 
of it.

I’m using Quine 2 for iOS on an ipad. I don’t know whether the container 
makes a difference in this problem, so I’m starting with this forum in the 
hopes that someone can rescue me.

Thank you,

-Linda Bayley

On Monday, June 29, 2020 at 8:55:48 PM UTC-4 TW Tones wrote:

> Robert,
>
> In Control Panel > Info > basics you can set the default Text for new 
> journal tiddlers 
>  but these 
> are a special type of tiddler, a journal.
>
> However may I respectfully suggest there is a better way to do things than 
> plump up every tiddler you create with text. 
>
> We can make a custom new tiddler button that uses default text or a 
> template if you want, however I think it better to move such things into 
> the viewTemplate and have it display according to particular conditions, so 
> you can have more than one tiddler type and content. Also why store 
> reoccurring text?
>
> Remember there are multiple ways to create a tiddlers, so rather than make 
> every way create a custom tiddler confirm to you requirement why not make a 
> button to generate a custom tiddler when needed?
>
> A Cheats approach it to just clone a default tiddler pre-configured the 
> way you want, or make a button just for your custom tiddlers, the other is 
> to make new from template buttons.
>
> There are even better ways but I wont complicate matters.
>
> *Perhaps you could explain why you wish to do this? and I can share a 
> better way.*
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
> On Tuesday, June 30, 2020 at 5:56:19 AM UTC+10, Robert Jopling wrote:
>>
>> Please forgive me me if this has been answered before but
>>
>> How do you add default text and tags to all new tiddlers?
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Filter operator for grouping by removing suffix

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

The """ thing is a habit I go into to help prevent code that breaks when 
confronted with tiddlers that have spaces, quotes, or other odd 
punctuation. Very often it isn't actually needed.

It's a similar thing for the <__pfx__> syntax. It's a bit funky, but it is 
more robust when the content of the parameter might contain some unexpected 
punctuation. I probably could have used [$pfx$] instead.

The notation is really useful when you are using a variable define outside 
the macro (that is, a variable defined in the calling environment). Then 
you might call it like:

...tag...

which is a lot less clunky than other alternatives.



On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 1:29:14 AM UTC-8 scheuer...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thank you so much for this detailed example!
>
> I have two questions:
> 1) What do the three """ mean? Could you also just use one " or do the 
> three have a special function?
> 2) I never really understood what the syntax <__pfx__> does. I get the 
> $name$ and $(name)$ - but the other macro notations don´t come easily to me.
>
> Mark S. schrieb am Donnerstag, 26. November 2020 um 19:53:22 UTC+1:
>
>> Something like the code below can do what you seem to want. But it's kind 
>> of complicated and
>> messy, requiring helper macros and the wikify widget. It's much easier if 
>> construct your tiddlers 
>> according to basic database design principles.
>>
>> The first principle of database design is that you don't store multiple 
>> pieces of information in a 
>> single field. Unfortunately TW gets you off to a bad start, with the 
>> title field already performing at
>> least 3 different functions.
>>
>> If you put year, month, week, and day all into their own fields, then it 
>> becomes much easier 
>> and understandable to create report tiddlers. It could probably be done 
>> in one or two list
>> widgets in 5.1.23prerelease using the new sortsub operator.
>>
>> Ok, here's the code using your existing setup:
>>
>> \define listdays(pfx)
>> <$list filter="""[prefix<__pfx__>]""" variable="thing1">
>> <$list filter="""[split[-]nth[5]]"""/>
>> 
>> \end
>>
>> \define listweek2(pfx daynum)
>> 
>> <$list filter="""[prefix[$pfx$$daynum$]]""" >
>>
>> 
>> 
>> \end
>>
>> \define listweek(pfx)
>> $pfx$
>> <$wikify text="""<>""" name=daylist>
>> <$list filter="""[enlistsort[]]""" variable=daynum>
>> <$macrocall $name=listweek2 pfx=<<__pfx__>> daynum=<> />
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> \end
>>
>> <>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 6:17:53 AM UTC-8 scheuer...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> I just can´t wrap my head around this one, now have been trying 
>>> different things for a couple of hours :(
>>>
>>> I have several tiddlers with the name scheme:
>>> *$:/weekplan-2020-11-48-23-Monday-1*
>>>
>>> * $:/weekplan-2020-11-48-23-Monday-2*
>>>
>>> * $:/weekplan-2020-11-48-23-Monday-3 *
>>>
>>> * $:/weekplan-2020-11-48-24-Wednesday-1 *
>>>
>>> * $:/weekplan-2020-11-48-24-Wednesday-2 *
>>>
>>> * $:/weekplan-2020-11-48-25-Thursday-1 *
>>> * $:/weekplan-2020-11-48-23-Thursday-2*
>>> *...*
>>>
>>> The numbers are: Year, Month, Week number, day of month, day of week, 
>>> number counting
>>>
>>> I now want to show in a table all the tiddlers with year 2020, month 11, 
>>> week 48 and the ones with the same day should be in one table row in 
>>> different columns.
>>>
>>> I manage to filter all the tiddlers with the matching year, month and 
>>> week by the *prefix/removeprefix* filter operator. Now I don´t get it 
>>> how to group these tiddlers with the same day by removing the suffix number 
>>> counting resulting in something like this:
>>>
>>>
>>> *23-Monday-1 23-Monday-2 23-Monday-3 *
>>>
>>> * 24-Wednesday-1 24-Wednesday-2 *
>>> * 25-Thursday-1 23-Thursday-2*
>>>
>>> Can I use the subfilter operator for that? Or is there a filter operator 
>>> I am missing?
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>> Christoph
>>>
>>>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Passing macro output to another macro?

[P M]

Hi Tones,

I am now trying to do this with <> instead of using
tags. I was thinking that maybe it would be easier to just use fields for
this but now I am not that sure...

Do you know if there is a variable which stores the name of the tiddler
from which an item is being dragged from? Like actionTiddler has the name
of the tiddler being dragged, and targetTiddler (I think?) has the name of
where I am dragging it. I would like to remove an item from a list when it
is being dragged away from the dropzone. So if I have a tiddler "Parent"
and a tiddler "Child", where the tiddler "Parent" has a field "list" with
"Child" in it. So it would be

* Parent
* Child

And now if I drag the "Child" away from the "Parent", I would like to
automatically change the "list" field of Parent to reflect that "Child" is
no longer its child.

-Petri

On Fri, Nov 27, 2020 at 12:37 AM TW Tones  wrote:

> Petri,
>
> Nice code pattern you are suggesting to test if there is one tag, however
> this will not work if you decide to organise the same tiddlers with
> additional tags.
>
> However if you want to go ahead remember, tags have special handling in
> tiddlywiki, but at the very same time the tags field is a field like any
> other. Thus if all tags (the 'tags' field) match's all tags.
> I have not yet reproduced this today. I will provide the exact filter if I
> find it.
>
> The TOCP plugin allows you to instead use the parent field to store the
> parent rather than tags, this would be better in your case.
>
> Regards
> Tones
>
> On Thursday, 26 November 2020 at 23:08:42 UTC+11 Petri M. wrote:
>
>> Hello Tones,
>>
>> Thank you for the input. I did notice that the issue with spaces in tags
>> was of my own doing, apparently I messed something up when I was trying to
>> make drag-and-dropping from list to list to remove the tag of the old list
>> and replace it with the tag of the new list.
>>
>> Everything is working now in an empty tiddlywiki!
>>
>> I was thinking of not messing with the drag-and-drop macro and just
>> figure out how to make a filter which only gives me the tiddlers I want. I
>> have been trying to figure out how I can make a filter which returns
>> tiddlers with tag "Task", but only if there are no other tags. So if I have
>> a tiddler "Parent" with a tag "Task" and a tiddler "Child" with tags
>> "Parent" and "Task", then the filter would only give me the "Parent"
>> tiddler. Seems like a very simple thing but I can't figure it out. I was
>> hoping I could've just made a filter that finds all the tiddlers with the
>> tag "Task" and then removes everything that has any tags in addition to
>> "Task".
>>
>> Any ideas? :)
>>
>> -Petri
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 12:16 AM TW Tones  wrote:
>>
>>> Petri,
>>>
>>> I am only starting to make use of the drag and drop features myself. In
>>> this case you are using the macro  list-tagged-draggable but you can build
>>> your own. Its is defined in $:/core/macros/list
>>>
>>> I suspect the inability to use a tiddler title with spaces may be a
>>> design weakness of the macro.
>>>
>>> A quick solution to current tiddler with spaces *may* be tag={{{
>>> [] }}}
>>>
>>> Tones
>>> On Thursday, 26 November 2020 at 01:29:17 UTC+11 Petri M. wrote:
>>>
 Oh and apparently using <$macrocall $name="list-tagged-draggable"
 itemTemplate="TODO task list template children" tag=<>/>
 will break the tags if the currentTiddler has spaces in its name. Putting
 quotes around the macro <> will just tag it with
 "<>" and not with "this is my current tag".

 BR,
 Petri M
 On Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 3:53:59 PM UTC+2 Petri M. wrote:

> Hi Tones,
>
> Ohh thank you so much! I looked into the <$macrocall/> and tried to
> use it directly with the <> macro and it worked
> perfectly. Well almost perfectly.
>
> There is one issue. If I use <$macrocall $name="list-tagged-draggable"
> tag=<>/> then everything works fine and I am able to make
> subtasks of subtasks by just dragging them, which is exactly what I want.
> However, I cannot figure out on how to do the indentation. Inline css with
> @@margin-left:10px ... @@ does absolutely nothing. I can fix this by using
> something like
> <$macrocall $name="list-tagged-draggable" itemTemplate="TODO task list
> template" tag=<>/> where I add the inline css in the
> template file itself. But now I lose the ability to make subtasks of
> subtasks. I would like to have the indentation so that each subtask is
> slightly indented so it is easier to see.
>
> ps. though I do have to say that I did not undertand much about the
> rest of your comment. Did you mean that I could use <<$macrocall $name=tag
> tag=<> /> or {{||$:/core/ui/EditTemplate/tags}} in my example 
> code
> that I said works? What did you mean by all the bullet points?
>
> BR,
> Petri M
> On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 12:03:46 AM UTC+2 TW Tones

[tw5] Re: [HELP] Tiddlyserver Update

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Arlen would be the best person to answer, but while we're waiting I'll ask 
some questions.

How do you normally launch tiddlyserver? An upgrade to ts shouldn't affect 
your personal
files unless you did some unusual like putting them into the node_modules 
directory.

So if you can remember how you launch, then you should be able to find the 
configuration
that will tell you (or remind you) where your personal files are. With TS, 
your personal files
could be anywhere on the system, depending on configuration.  So your 
personal files should
be there -- you just have to remember where.

Looking at the logs, it appears that ts didn't have enough permissions to 
complete it's process. 
Possibly if you opened an administrator box and ran the upgrade it would 
complete. Perhaps
that is what you did when you first installed and have forgotten. But, like 
I said, you might
want to wait for other input.

Good luck!

On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 5:50:05 AM UTC-8 Kei wrote:

> (Sorry had to repost) Hello so I found out that there was an update in 
> Tiddlyserver so I immediately went straight to the getting started guide 
> and I ran npm install -g tiddlyserver@latest in the cmd since I already 
> have tiddlyserver installed. The problem is after entering that, I got a 
> message from cmd saying that there's an error along with the debug log. I 
> checked the directory in node_modules and there's no tiddlyserver anymore 
> along with my wikis. I once again typed npm install -g tiddlyserver@latest 
> this in and that when the tiddlyserver directory appeared but my wiki is 
> not there ofc. Now I can't seem to find my server config, files, and wikis 
> anywhere and I'm afraid that I can't retrieve it anymore. I have a backup 
> but it was last updated 2 weeks or so ago, I haven't downloaded the latest 
> HTML file so yea.
>
> I guess it's partially my fault since I didn't read the instructions 
> further but can anyone clarify about this, thank you!
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Requesting Help to Port My TiddlySpot Files

[springer]

TiddlySpot was absolutely the lowest bar-to-entry for instant-gratification 
create-edit-save-publish work in TiddlyWiki. Having something like it is 
essential to attracting new users with an interest in public-facing 
instant-edit projects.

Alvin: For those like you who already know they love tiddlywiki and love 
the tiddlyspot convenience, I do recommend the GitHub saver. It's 
effectively the same workflow experience as TiddlySpot... at least it's 
comparable *AFTER* the arduous process (at least, it was arduous for me) of 
getting the repository set up and properly cleared for saving from the 
browser. Mohammad's walkthrough tutorial is very helpful (and it seems like 
the glitch around GitHub email verification, which hobbled my own 
experience, was idiosyncratic).

-Springer
On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 5:57:31 AM UTC-5 Ste wrote:

> Just to edit my response, now I've actually read the thread carefully, 
> oops, I'm slightly off track in my reply...I'm just looking at individual 
> hosting.  I'd happily chuck some cash somebody's way for continued 
> tiddlyspot workingness.  I'm guessing no one has heard anything regarding 
> the future of the site?
>
> On Friday, 27 November 2020 at 10:48:32 UTC Ste wrote:
>
>> I'm looking at this at the moment...I keep thinking..'Oh..I'll just edit 
>> this' on my wiki, then cry quietly as I remember that tiddlyspot is broken 
>> :(
>> I was thinking node.js with bob to serve multiple wikis.
>> So far Iv'e turned up https://www.mythic-beasts.com/ for about £70 a 
>> year...I think, or a combo of Domain reg from google, Hosting from 
>> https://www.cloudflare.com/ and serving from 
>> https://www.vultr.com/products/cloud-compute/ at $2.50 a month.  I 
>> haven't committed to anything yetGoing to boot up my pi and check I 
>> manage to get it all running before I throw cash after it.  The joys of the 
>> command line.
>>
>> Ste
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, 26 November 2020 at 21:59:07 UTC Mark S. wrote:
>>
>>> I'm thinking as far as an offer goes, you might have the most luck 
>>> posting at https://tiddlyspot.blogspot.com/ . With or without chocolate.
>>>
>>> For setting up your own, you would need to find a web host, preferably 
>>> one that charges per space used rather than 
>>> un-metered-but-with-secret-restrictions. Then you would use store.php 
>>> (older) or tw-receiver to serve up your own tw host. There might be 
>>> additional complications if you wanted to protect your files via ssl. When 
>>> I looked at hosts, it seemed that most of them wanted to sell one rate for 
>>> 1 to 3 years, and then twice that rate afterwards. Most of them that charge 
>>> per storage space were more expensive. For a personal site, I might just 
>>> depend on TW's own encryption rather than worrying about a site getting 
>>> hacked.
>>>
>>> Re hosting for everyone, all the public files listed in the 
>>> tiddlytoolmap seem to come to about a half gig. So if the total space was 
>>> under one gig, then there's at least one website offering services at 
>>> $6/month plus probably $14/year for domain name registration.
>>>
>>> The question of size keeps coming up. It's hard to estimate how much a 
>>> site would cost when the total size is unknown.
>>>
>>> Well, this probably hasn't helped much, but should prompt other 
>>> conversations.
>>>
>>> Good luck!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 12:51:27 PM UTC-8 Alvin wrote:
>>>
 Happy Thanksgiving, everybody.

 Did my question fall through the cracks? I don't think it can get 
 COVID-19, so there's no need to social distance. Would it help if I 
 offered 
 chocolate for an answer?

 On Monday, November 16, 2020 at 12:24:15 PM UTC-6 Alvin wrote:

> I offered to foot the bill for another hosting service for Simon and 
> Daniel to use to move the TiddlySpot domain, but all I've heard so far is 
> crickets. So I would like to take my ClassicTW files that were on 
> TiddlySpot and put them online somewhere else. I would appreciate it if 
> anyone can provide step by step instructions how to do that. I also need 
> to 
> know how to keep them password protected. Thank you so much.
>
> If someone wants to contact me (Alvin dot Orzechowski at sign gmail 
> dot com) about my offer, please do so directly.
>


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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki best practices

[springer]

Cl0d, the DetailsWidget linked by Charlie above is the same one I use. Very 
powerful!

Also, I want to correct what I just posted about the Relink plugin and 
related functions: only *some* such functions were added to the core in 
5.1.14; if you rename tiddlers frequently (and also employ links in 
markdown) then you should check out the flibbles relink plugin that Charlie 
points to.

-Springer
On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 9:16:55 PM UTC-5 Charlie Veniot wrote:

> G'day Cl0d,
>
> So far, my favourite can't-live-without plugins:  Relink 
>  and DetailsWidget 
> .
>
> I am a "tweaker" by nature.  Like for anything else, I am always Tiddler 
> Titles (incrementally, iteratively) tweaking them until I get them 
> juust right, as elucidation of information and structural needs comes 
> together bit by bit.  I'd be lost without Relink.
>
> DetailsWidget is a simple and wonderful way to structure content.  It 
> really helps me visually organize the cognitive mess that is this old 
> sponge of mine (I see everything as deeply  intertwingled, i.e. every 
> little thing is connected to everything.)  I like being able to see more 
> info "right there", without leaving the happy confines of whatever thing 
> I'm looking at.
>
> I tend to prefer having multiple TiddlyWiki instances for very clear 
> purposes (kind of like the kid who does not like the potatoes touching the 
> peas.)  You will see, though, that when there are intersections of largely 
> common info, I'm quite happy with one TiddlyWiki handling multiple purposes 
> (or contextual views) in one TiddlyWiki.
>
> Here are a few examples of mine for your interest, even if just for the 
> $hit$ and the giggle$:
>
>
>- *Le P'tit Aurèle 
>* *(my first 
>TiddlyWiki)*
>   - a lexicon of Acadian French / un lexique du français acadien
>- *ADHD Slice'n Dice 
>
> *
>- An "Intertwingularity Mapping" journey with TiddlyWiki about ADHD 
>   (inattentive subtype)
>- Product Reviews, which wound up turning into a multi-purpose 
>TiddlyWiki (one TiddlyWiki with a URL parameter for purpose) for:
>- *Product Reviews 
>   
> *
>   - *Urban Off Gridding for Laypersons 
>   
> *
>   - *Hydro Bill Cutting for Laypersons 
>   
> *
>   - *Chromebook: Beyond Web Browsing 
>   
> *
>   - *ORM-ish à la TiddlyWiki 
>* *(my 
>newest project that has all my attention lately)*
>   - Using TiddlyWiki for fact-based information modelling and 
>   database engineering
>
>
> Cheers, and welcome to TiddlyWikiHood !
>
>
>
> On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 3:06:10 PM UTC-4 Cl0d wrote:
>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> Been using TiddlyWiki for a few weeks now. I'm still learning how to cope 
>> with the enormous potential offered by TiddlyWiki.
>>
>> For example, I discovered today that it was possible to create a dynamic 
>> table of content using keywords. 
>>
>> So I was wondering, what are your best practices, or let's say, advices, 
>> for using TiddlyWiki ? How does your "basic wiki" look like ? What plugins 
>> and/or custom features do you use ? 
>>
>> I'm still in a transitional phase, meaning that I'm writing my new notes 
>> in TiddlyWiki to get used to it and I'm at the same time trying to discover 
>> new tools to organize my future wiki's in the best way possible.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for every answer.
>>
>

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[tw5] [HELP] Tiddlyserver Update

[Kei]

(Sorry had to repost) Hello so I found out that there was an update in 
Tiddlyserver so I immediately went straight to the getting started guide 
and I ran npm install -g tiddlyserver@latest in the cmd since I already 
have tiddlyserver installed. The problem is after entering that, I got a 
message from cmd saying that there's an error along with the debug log. I 
checked the directory in node_modules and there's no tiddlyserver anymore 
along with my wikis. I once again typed npm install -g tiddlyserver@latest 
this in and that when the tiddlyserver directory appeared but my wiki is 
not there ofc. Now I can't seem to find my server config, files, and wikis 
anywhere and I'm afraid that I can't retrieve it anymore. I have a backup 
but it was last updated 2 weeks or so ago, I haven't downloaded the latest 
HTML file so yea.

I guess it's partially my fault since I didn't read the instructions 
further but can anyone clarify about this, thank you!

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0 info it worked if it ends with ok
1 verbose cli [
1 verbose cli   'C:\\Program Files\\nodejs\\node.exe',
1 verbose cli   'C:\\Program Files\\nodejs\\node_modules\\npm\\bin\\npm-cli.js',
1 verbose cli   'install',
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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki best practices

[springer]

Yes, Relink is about being able to rename tiddlers without having any 
markup links to them go cold. But given how many of us found it to be 
essential, I believe it's been brought into the core for a while now (since 
5.1.14). So if you're just starting up you should already see an option box 
appear, when you rename a tiddler, to verify that you want the links to 
follow along. (Sometimes you might specifically *not* want the links to 
follow, so it's great that it's de-selectable.)

On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 7:54:15 AM UTC-5 Cl0d wrote:

> @springer : Alright. That lowers my fear of messing up my data. Got you, 
> that's also what I saw on your teaching Wiki. You have a red outline and 
> yellow background for definitions for example, which, as you say, tells us 
> clearly that we're looking at a definition.
>
> @Charlie Veniot : I'm sorry if I sound dumb, but I don't understand what 
> could be the use of "relink". Is it related to the dynamic modification of 
> links ? So basically, whenever you change a title, it gets updated 
> everywhere thanks to relink ?
>
> Thanks :)
> On Friday, 27 November 2020 at 00:06:29 UTC+1 springer wrote:
>
>> Cl0d,
>>
>> You'll find people here at both extremes: some use one massive TW5 as a 
>> repository for everything, figuring that this path makes maximal room for 
>> connections even across domains that may seem separate.
>>
>> My own approach is different largely because I like to have TW5 files 
>> that I can share with different audiences, without worrying that something 
>> intended for one audience would be distracting or even inappropriate for 
>> another audience. Obviously, that holds for a project devoted to a 
>> particular university course. I also set up a TW5 for a committee I chair; 
>> it's locked down with an encryption password and includes notes that aren't 
>> appropriately shared except with others on the committee (though I don't 
>> naively upload anything to an online repository like GitHub that is 
>> super-sensitive). For another example, folks at the TWGG know that I just 
>> set up a super-minimal TW5 for hosting the images connected with the 5.1.23 
>> logo contestants. Anyone who visits that wiki can poke around the "Recent" 
>> list without being confused by a long list of irrelevant things. Many 
>> plugins offer demo TW5 pages that are similarly stand-alone. I enjoy 
>> developing each of my projects with a distinctive color scheme and style 
>> set so that it feels like I'm arriving in a different "work environment" 
>> when I shift from one project to another.
>>
>> Whichever way you go, you should be reassured that dragging tiddlers 
>> between files, or filtering and exporting a JSON batch and dropping it onto 
>> a different TW5, allows you to engage in fusion or fission as needed down 
>> the road.
>>
>> -Springer
>> On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 4:13:44 PM UTC-5 Cl0d wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you for your answer.
>>>
>>> It can without a doubt serve, I'd say, unlimited purposes. And the fact 
>>> that you outlined that, made me realize something I internally knew since 
>>> the first day I started using TiddlyWiki : the way you organize TW, greatly 
>>> depends on what you do with it.
>>>
>>> I have flown over both plugins tutorials and I'm going to try them out 
>>> on one of my test Wiki's, to see how I can use them. 
>>>
>>> Your site is amazing. This is definetly the kind of organization I'm 
>>> looking forward to achieve.
>>>
>>> I hope you don't mind me asking this question, but do you use TW for 
>>> other purposes ? I'm asking because, I couldn't get my head around a 
>>> question, which is, should I use only one Wiki for everything ?
>>>
>>> To give you an example, I read a lot of books and I take plenty of notes 
>>> and I also write extended documentations about computer science. Now, what 
>>> I'm doing right now, is creating one Wiki per subject. So I have a Wiki for 
>>> programming, one for everything that's related to pentesting, one for 
>>> system related things, one containing all my notes on books etc.
>>>
>>> I don't really know if this is going to be sustainble once I'll start 
>>> transfering all the information to TW.
>>>
>>> Said like this, it might sound trivial, but I feel like if I mess up my 
>>> '"entry" in TW, it's going to be hard to get everything straight later on.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, 26 November 2020 at 20:57:15 UTC+1 springer wrote:
>>>
 Cl0d, exactly what I find marvelous about TiddlyWiki is how much it can 
 be molded to very different purposes. I maintain different TW5 projects 
 for 
 different purposes, with different plugin sets and other customizations 
 suited to the purposes of each project. 

 Two things that I suspect I do more than most people are:

 (1) Make a dynamic table, using the Shiraz plugin,  for virtually every 
 important tag. It offers a great compact way to get the big picture on any 
 slice that interests me. I used 

[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki best practices

[Cl0d]

@springer : Alright. That lowers my fear of messing up my data. Got you, 
that's also what I saw on your teaching Wiki. You have a red outline and 
yellow background for definitions for example, which, as you say, tells us 
clearly that we're looking at a definition.

@Charlie Veniot : I'm sorry if I sound dumb, but I don't understand what 
could be the use of "relink". Is it related to the dynamic modification of 
links ? So basically, whenever you change a title, it gets updated 
everywhere thanks to relink ?

Thanks :)
On Friday, 27 November 2020 at 00:06:29 UTC+1 springer wrote:

> Cl0d,
>
> You'll find people here at both extremes: some use one massive TW5 as a 
> repository for everything, figuring that this path makes maximal room for 
> connections even across domains that may seem separate.
>
> My own approach is different largely because I like to have TW5 files that 
> I can share with different audiences, without worrying that something 
> intended for one audience would be distracting or even inappropriate for 
> another audience. Obviously, that holds for a project devoted to a 
> particular university course. I also set up a TW5 for a committee I chair; 
> it's locked down with an encryption password and includes notes that aren't 
> appropriately shared except with others on the committee (though I don't 
> naively upload anything to an online repository like GitHub that is 
> super-sensitive). For another example, folks at the TWGG know that I just 
> set up a super-minimal TW5 for hosting the images connected with the 5.1.23 
> logo contestants. Anyone who visits that wiki can poke around the "Recent" 
> list without being confused by a long list of irrelevant things. Many 
> plugins offer demo TW5 pages that are similarly stand-alone. I enjoy 
> developing each of my projects with a distinctive color scheme and style 
> set so that it feels like I'm arriving in a different "work environment" 
> when I shift from one project to another.
>
> Whichever way you go, you should be reassured that dragging tiddlers 
> between files, or filtering and exporting a JSON batch and dropping it onto 
> a different TW5, allows you to engage in fusion or fission as needed down 
> the road.
>
> -Springer
> On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 4:13:44 PM UTC-5 Cl0d wrote:
>
>> Thank you for your answer.
>>
>> It can without a doubt serve, I'd say, unlimited purposes. And the fact 
>> that you outlined that, made me realize something I internally knew since 
>> the first day I started using TiddlyWiki : the way you organize TW, greatly 
>> depends on what you do with it.
>>
>> I have flown over both plugins tutorials and I'm going to try them out on 
>> one of my test Wiki's, to see how I can use them. 
>>
>> Your site is amazing. This is definetly the kind of organization I'm 
>> looking forward to achieve.
>>
>> I hope you don't mind me asking this question, but do you use TW for 
>> other purposes ? I'm asking because, I couldn't get my head around a 
>> question, which is, should I use only one Wiki for everything ?
>>
>> To give you an example, I read a lot of books and I take plenty of notes 
>> and I also write extended documentations about computer science. Now, what 
>> I'm doing right now, is creating one Wiki per subject. So I have a Wiki for 
>> programming, one for everything that's related to pentesting, one for 
>> system related things, one containing all my notes on books etc.
>>
>> I don't really know if this is going to be sustainble once I'll start 
>> transfering all the information to TW.
>>
>> Said like this, it might sound trivial, but I feel like if I mess up my 
>> '"entry" in TW, it's going to be hard to get everything straight later on.
>>
>> On Thursday, 26 November 2020 at 20:57:15 UTC+1 springer wrote:
>>
>>> Cl0d, exactly what I find marvelous about TiddlyWiki is how much it can 
>>> be molded to very different purposes. I maintain different TW5 projects for 
>>> different purposes, with different plugin sets and other customizations 
>>> suited to the purposes of each project. 
>>>
>>> Two things that I suspect I do more than most people are:
>>>
>>> (1) Make a dynamic table, using the Shiraz plugin,  for virtually every 
>>> important tag. It offers a great compact way to get the big picture on any 
>>> slice that interests me. I used to use TOC-style tiddlers for this purpose, 
>>> and that structure still has uses, but the dynamic table is more powerful. 
>>> I love that I can structure each such dynamic table to focus on the fields 
>>> that are important for that particular tag. (Of course, you can build a 
>>> dynamic table around criteria other than tags, but that's my main workhorse 
>>> use.) I also tend to populate my stylesheet with tag-specific css, so that 
>>> there are clear visual cues as to which kind of tiddler we're looking at. 
>>> (I use TW for teaching. So, a quiz question tiddler has a look and feel 
>>> that differs from an author-specific tiddler or a d

[tw5] [HELP] Tiddlyserver update

[Kei]

Hello so I found out that there was an update in Tiddlyserver so I 
immediately went straight to the getting started guide and I ran npm 
install -g tiddlyserver@latest in the cmd since I already have tiddlyserver 
installed. The problem is after entering that, I got a message from cmd 
saying that there's an error along with the debug log. I checked the 
directory in node_modules and there's no tiddlyserver anymore along with my 
wikis. I once again typed npm install -g tiddlyserver@latest this in and 
that when the tiddlyserver directory appeared but my wiki is not there ofc. 
Now I can't seem to find my server config, files, and wikis anywhere and 
I'm afraid that I can't retrieve it anymore. I have a backup but it was 
last updated 2 weeks or so ago, I haven't downloaded the latest HTML file 
so yea.

I guess it's partially my fault since I didn't read the instructions 
further but can anyone clarify about this, thank you!

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[tw5] Re: Requesting Help to Port My TiddlySpot Files

[Ste]

Just to edit my response, now I've actually read the thread carefully, 
oops, I'm slightly off track in my reply...I'm just looking at individual 
hosting.  I'd happily chuck some cash somebody's way for continued 
tiddlyspot workingness.  I'm guessing no one has heard anything regarding 
the future of the site?

On Friday, 27 November 2020 at 10:48:32 UTC Ste wrote:

> I'm looking at this at the moment...I keep thinking..'Oh..I'll just edit 
> this' on my wiki, then cry quietly as I remember that tiddlyspot is broken 
> :(
> I was thinking node.js with bob to serve multiple wikis.
> So far Iv'e turned up https://www.mythic-beasts.com/ for about £70 a 
> year...I think, or a combo of Domain reg from google, Hosting from 
> https://www.cloudflare.com/ and serving from 
> https://www.vultr.com/products/cloud-compute/ at $2.50 a month.  I 
> haven't committed to anything yetGoing to boot up my pi and check I 
> manage to get it all running before I throw cash after it.  The joys of the 
> command line.
>
> Ste
>
>
>
> On Thursday, 26 November 2020 at 21:59:07 UTC Mark S. wrote:
>
>> I'm thinking as far as an offer goes, you might have the most luck 
>> posting at https://tiddlyspot.blogspot.com/ . With or without chocolate.
>>
>> For setting up your own, you would need to find a web host, preferably 
>> one that charges per space used rather than 
>> un-metered-but-with-secret-restrictions. Then you would use store.php 
>> (older) or tw-receiver to serve up your own tw host. There might be 
>> additional complications if you wanted to protect your files via ssl. When 
>> I looked at hosts, it seemed that most of them wanted to sell one rate for 
>> 1 to 3 years, and then twice that rate afterwards. Most of them that charge 
>> per storage space were more expensive. For a personal site, I might just 
>> depend on TW's own encryption rather than worrying about a site getting 
>> hacked.
>>
>> Re hosting for everyone, all the public files listed in the tiddlytoolmap 
>> seem to come to about a half gig. So if the total space was under one gig, 
>> then there's at least one website offering services at $6/month plus 
>> probably $14/year for domain name registration.
>>
>> The question of size keeps coming up. It's hard to estimate how much a 
>> site would cost when the total size is unknown.
>>
>> Well, this probably hasn't helped much, but should prompt other 
>> conversations.
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 12:51:27 PM UTC-8 Alvin wrote:
>>
>>> Happy Thanksgiving, everybody.
>>>
>>> Did my question fall through the cracks? I don't think it can get 
>>> COVID-19, so there's no need to social distance. Would it help if I offered 
>>> chocolate for an answer?
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 16, 2020 at 12:24:15 PM UTC-6 Alvin wrote:
>>>
 I offered to foot the bill for another hosting service for Simon and 
 Daniel to use to move the TiddlySpot domain, but all I've heard so far is 
 crickets. So I would like to take my ClassicTW files that were on 
 TiddlySpot and put them online somewhere else. I would appreciate it if 
 anyone can provide step by step instructions how to do that. I also need 
 to 
 know how to keep them password protected. Thank you so much.

 If someone wants to contact me (Alvin dot Orzechowski at sign gmail dot 
 com) about my offer, please do so directly.

>>>

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[tw5] Re: Requesting Help to Port My TiddlySpot Files

[Ste]

I'm looking at this at the moment...I keep thinking..'Oh..I'll just edit 
this' on my wiki, then cry quietly as I remember that tiddlyspot is broken 
:(
I was thinking node.js with bob to serve multiple wikis.
So far Iv'e turned up https://www.mythic-beasts.com/ for about £70 a 
year...I think, or a combo of Domain reg from google, Hosting 
from https://www.cloudflare.com/ and serving 
from https://www.vultr.com/products/cloud-compute/ at $2.50 a month.  I 
haven't committed to anything yetGoing to boot up my pi and check I 
manage to get it all running before I throw cash after it.  The joys of the 
command line.

Ste



On Thursday, 26 November 2020 at 21:59:07 UTC Mark S. wrote:

> I'm thinking as far as an offer goes, you might have the most luck posting 
> at https://tiddlyspot.blogspot.com/ . With or without chocolate.
>
> For setting up your own, you would need to find a web host, preferably one 
> that charges per space used rather than 
> un-metered-but-with-secret-restrictions. Then you would use store.php 
> (older) or tw-receiver to serve up your own tw host. There might be 
> additional complications if you wanted to protect your files via ssl. When 
> I looked at hosts, it seemed that most of them wanted to sell one rate for 
> 1 to 3 years, and then twice that rate afterwards. Most of them that charge 
> per storage space were more expensive. For a personal site, I might just 
> depend on TW's own encryption rather than worrying about a site getting 
> hacked.
>
> Re hosting for everyone, all the public files listed in the tiddlytoolmap 
> seem to come to about a half gig. So if the total space was under one gig, 
> then there's at least one website offering services at $6/month plus 
> probably $14/year for domain name registration.
>
> The question of size keeps coming up. It's hard to estimate how much a 
> site would cost when the total size is unknown.
>
> Well, this probably hasn't helped much, but should prompt other 
> conversations.
>
> Good luck!
>
>
>
> On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 12:51:27 PM UTC-8 Alvin wrote:
>
>> Happy Thanksgiving, everybody.
>>
>> Did my question fall through the cracks? I don't think it can get 
>> COVID-19, so there's no need to social distance. Would it help if I offered 
>> chocolate for an answer?
>>
>> On Monday, November 16, 2020 at 12:24:15 PM UTC-6 Alvin wrote:
>>
>>> I offered to foot the bill for another hosting service for Simon and 
>>> Daniel to use to move the TiddlySpot domain, but all I've heard so far is 
>>> crickets. So I would like to take my ClassicTW files that were on 
>>> TiddlySpot and put them online somewhere else. I would appreciate it if 
>>> anyone can provide step by step instructions how to do that. I also need to 
>>> know how to keep them password protected. Thank you so much.
>>>
>>> If someone wants to contact me (Alvin dot Orzechowski at sign gmail dot 
>>> com) about my offer, please do so directly.
>>>
>>

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[tw5] My amazing you tube Video.....:)

[Ste]

Well, it's not that amazing (I say 'Er' an awful lot)...a while ago I put 
up a quick intro to TiddlyWiki video in the hope of enticing my colleagues 
to the dark side.

Despite me putting up many more really interesting (read 'really niche 
engineering content') videos up for my students the TiddlyWiki video is my 
most watched one.  It's not going to let me retire on the youtube revenue 
(only just over 1000 views) but does seem to come up regularly in 
searches.  This suggests to me that TiddlyWiki visibility on youtube is 
quite lowas there is no other reason I'd be appearing on searches :D

So...get screencasting people... let us tell the world! :D

Ste

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[tw5] Re: How to pass a tiddler field value to a compare operand

[vpl]

magic !!! Many thanks

Le vendredi 27 novembre 2020 à 10:56:43 UTC+1, saq.i...@gmail.com a écrit :

> The correct syntax would be:
>
> <$list filter="[tag[test-1]get[date]compare:date:gt{!!referencets}]">
>
> 
>
> On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 10:52:44 AM UTC+1 vpl wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Discovering this compare operator I block on one point ..
>>
>> I have a set of tiddlers with a "date" field
>> I want to list & filter them based on their date field when it's greater 
>> than a value store in a reference tiddler field called 'referencets'
>>
>> I've tried the following but it does not take into account my referencets 
>> value
>> <$list filter="[tag[test-1]get[date]compare:date:gt[{{!!referencets}}]]">
>>
>> 
>>
>> I've also tried with simple bracket but not working ...
>> <$list filter="[tag[test-1]get[date]compare:date:gt[{!!referencets}]]">
>>
>> 
>>
>> Any magic idea ?
>>
>> Thanks a lot for your help and support
>>
>> Regards Vpl
>>
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: How to pass a tiddler field value to a compare operand

[Saq Imtiaz]

The correct syntax would be:

<$list filter="[tag[test-1]get[date]compare:date:gt{!!referencets}]">



On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 10:52:44 AM UTC+1 vpl wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Discovering this compare operator I block on one point ..
>
> I have a set of tiddlers with a "date" field
> I want to list & filter them based on their date field when it's greater 
> than a value store in a reference tiddler field called 'referencets'
>
> I've tried the following but it does not take into account my referencets 
> value
> <$list filter="[tag[test-1]get[date]compare:date:gt[{{!!referencets}}]]">
>
> 
>
> I've also tried with simple bracket but not working ...
> <$list filter="[tag[test-1]get[date]compare:date:gt[{!!referencets}]]">
>
> 
>
> Any magic idea ?
>
> Thanks a lot for your help and support
>
> Regards Vpl
>
>
>

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[tw5] How to pass a tiddler field value to a compare operand

[vpl]

Hi,

Discovering this compare operator I block on one point ..

I have a set of tiddlers with a "date" field
I want to list & filter them based on their date field when it's greater 
than a value store in a reference tiddler field called 'referencets'

I've tried the following but it does not take into account my referencets 
value
<$list filter="[tag[test-1]get[date]compare:date:gt[{{!!referencets}}]]">



I've also tried with simple bracket but not working ...
<$list filter="[tag[test-1]get[date]compare:date:gt[{!!referencets}]]">



Any magic idea ?

Thanks a lot for your help and support

Regards Vpl


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[tw5] Re: How to transclude tiddler field in macro call

[vpl]

Wonderful !! Thanks a lot

Vpl

Le jeudi 26 novembre 2020 à 23:18:03 UTC+1, Mark S. a écrit :

> AFAIK, you can't pass values to a <> that way. You have to use the 
> macrocall widget. Then, to get the result of that call into a single 
> variable, you'll need the wikify widget.
>
> I couldn't test, because I don't have your macro. In the following, I 
> guessed that your macro parameters were w, p, and f. Change appropriately. 
> Also, be sure to have a backup:
>
> \define my-actions()
> <$wikify name=myval text="""<$macrocall $name=TLfilter w={{!!window}} 
> p={{!!period}} f='[tag[test-2]sort[date]]'/>""" >
> <$action-setfield $field="stampId" $value=<> />
> 
> \end
>
> On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 1:51:34 PM UTC-8 vpl wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> I've developed a small macro in javascript (called TLFilter see below) 
>> and I want to pass it values stored into the tiddler fields like this
>>
>> \define my-actions()
>> <$action-setfield $field="stampId"  $value=<> {{!!period}} "[tag[test-2]sort[date]]">> />
>> \end
>> <$button actions=<>>Click me!
>>
>> When I call <> macro the text {{!!window}} and {{!!period}} 
>> is passed to it and unfortunately not the content of the window and period 
>> field of the current tiddler ... As if the window and period variables 
>> where not transcluded during the TLfilter call
>>
>> How to make that running ... I struggle and cannot find a solution
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your help
>>
>> With regards
>>
>> Regards
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Filter operator for grouping by removing suffix

[Christoph Chalfin]

Thank you so much for this detailed example!

I have two questions:
1) What do the three """ mean? Could you also just use one " or do the 
three have a special function?
2) I never really understood what the syntax <__pfx__> does. I get the 
$name$ and $(name)$ - but the other macro notations don´t come easily to me.

Mark S. schrieb am Donnerstag, 26. November 2020 um 19:53:22 UTC+1:

> Something like the code below can do what you seem to want. But it's kind 
> of complicated and
> messy, requiring helper macros and the wikify widget. It's much easier if 
> construct your tiddlers 
> according to basic database design principles.
>
> The first principle of database design is that you don't store multiple 
> pieces of information in a 
> single field. Unfortunately TW gets you off to a bad start, with the title 
> field already performing at
> least 3 different functions.
>
> If you put year, month, week, and day all into their own fields, then it 
> becomes much easier 
> and understandable to create report tiddlers. It could probably be done in 
> one or two list
> widgets in 5.1.23prerelease using the new sortsub operator.
>
> Ok, here's the code using your existing setup:
>
> \define listdays(pfx)
> <$list filter="""[prefix<__pfx__>]""" variable="thing1">
> <$list filter="""[split[-]nth[5]]"""/>
> 
> \end
>
> \define listweek2(pfx daynum)
> 
> <$list filter="""[prefix[$pfx$$daynum$]]""" >
>
> 
> 
> \end
>
> \define listweek(pfx)
> $pfx$
> <$wikify text="""<>""" name=daylist>
> <$list filter="""[enlistsort[]]""" variable=daynum>
> <$macrocall $name=listweek2 pfx=<<__pfx__>> daynum=<> />
> 
> 
> 
> \end
>
> <>
>
>
> On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 6:17:53 AM UTC-8 scheuer...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I just can´t wrap my head around this one, now have been trying different 
>> things for a couple of hours :(
>>
>> I have several tiddlers with the name scheme:
>> *$:/weekplan-2020-11-48-23-Monday-1*
>>
>> * $:/weekplan-2020-11-48-23-Monday-2*
>>
>> * $:/weekplan-2020-11-48-23-Monday-3 *
>>
>> * $:/weekplan-2020-11-48-24-Wednesday-1 *
>>
>> * $:/weekplan-2020-11-48-24-Wednesday-2 *
>>
>> * $:/weekplan-2020-11-48-25-Thursday-1 *
>> * $:/weekplan-2020-11-48-23-Thursday-2*
>> *...*
>>
>> The numbers are: Year, Month, Week number, day of month, day of week, 
>> number counting
>>
>> I now want to show in a table all the tiddlers with year 2020, month 11, 
>> week 48 and the ones with the same day should be in one table row in 
>> different columns.
>>
>> I manage to filter all the tiddlers with the matching year, month and 
>> week by the *prefix/removeprefix* filter operator. Now I don´t get it 
>> how to group these tiddlers with the same day by removing the suffix number 
>> counting resulting in something like this:
>>
>>
>> *23-Monday-1 23-Monday-2 23-Monday-3 *
>>
>> * 24-Wednesday-1 24-Wednesday-2 *
>> * 25-Thursday-1 23-Thursday-2*
>>
>> Can I use the subfilter operator for that? Or is there a filter operator 
>> I am missing?
>>
>> Thank you!
>> Christoph
>>
>>

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