[tw5] Re: Saving a story-river

2020-11-28 Thread Sylvain Naudin
It remind me this old Tobias solution : 
http://tobibeer.github.io/tb5/#Saving%20And%20Loading%20A%20History%20Snapshot

Le jeudi 26 novembre 2020 à 23:09:33 UTC+1, joshua@gmail.com a écrit :

> Nice work Eric!!!
>
> On Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 5:57:14 PM UTC-8 Eric Shulman wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 5:01:52 PM UTC-8 
>> ad...@menswellbeing.org wrote:
>>
>>> Is it possible to save the story-river into a tiddler and then use that 
>>> tiddler to open that story-river at a later time?
>>>
>>
>> The current StoryRiver contents are stored in $:/StoryList!!list.
>>
>> Here's a tiddler that defines two buttons...
>> one to save the current  $:/StoryList!!list field to a separate tiddler 
>> tagged with "savedStory",
>> and another to set the  $:/StoryList!!list from the list field in a 
>> "savedStory" tiddler:
>>
>> *StorySaver:*
>> <$button popup="$:/state/popup/savestory"> save story 
>> <$reveal type="popup" state="$:/state/popup/savestory" 
>> class="tc-drop-down tc-popup-keep" style="min-width:auto;padding:0.5em;">
>>Enter a new story name:
>><$edit-text tiddler="$:/state/popup/savestory" field="storyname" />
>><$list filter="[tag[savedStory]limit[1]]">
>>   or, select an existing story:
>>.savedStoryList { width:100%; } 
>>   <$select tiddler="$:/state/popup/savestory" field="storyname" 
>> size="5" class="savedStoryList">
>>   <$list 
>> filter="[tag[savedStory]]"><>
>>   
>>
>><$button style="text-align:center;"> save
>>   <$action-setfield $tiddler={{$:/state/popup/savestory!!storyname}} 
>> list={{$:/StoryList!!list}} tags="savedStory" />
>>   <$action-deletetiddler $tiddler="$:/state/popup/savestory" />
>>
>> 
>> <$button popup="$:/state/popup/loadstory"> load story 
>> <$reveal type="popup" state="$:/state/popup/loadstory" 
>> class="tc-drop-down tc-popup-keep" style="min-width:auto;padding:0.5em;">
>><$list filter="[tag[savedStory]limit[1]]" emptyMessage="no saved 
>> stories">
>>   select an existing story:
>>.savedStoryList { width:100%; } 
>>   <$select tiddler="$:/state/popup/loadstory" field="storyname" 
>> size="5" class="savedStoryList">
>>   <$list 
>> filter="[tag[savedStory]]"><>
>>   
>>
>><$button style="text-align:center;"> load
>>   <$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/StoryList" list={{{ 
>> [{$:/state/popup/loadstory!!storyname}get[list]] }}} />
>>   <$action-deletetiddler $tiddler="$:/state/popup/loadstory" />
>>
>> 
>>
>> To use these buttons, just insert {{StorySaver}} into any tiddler.  
>> Alternatively, you can add these buttons to the Sidebar by tagging the 
>> above tiddler with $:/tags/SideBarSegment.  After tagging, you can 
>> reposition the buttons in the SideBar by viewing the tiddler and clicking 
>> on the $:/tags/SideBarSegment tag to display the list of tiddlers with that 
>> tag.  You can then use drag-and-drop to move the buttons to the desired 
>> position in the list (e.g.,  above the $:/core/ui/SideBarSegments/tabs)
>>
>> enjoy,
>> -e
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Date format for the Timelines plugin

2020-11-28 Thread 'MissyLaMotte' via TiddlyWiki
Hello Eskha,

yes, thank you, indeed, the minus works for me, too. It is a bit confusing 
because it takes the place of the first year digit, so the earliest year 
you can do is -999, but that's fine for my purpose. But I still cannot get 
the first century AD to work. Any year with two leading zeroes is 
interpreted as 19..Is there a trick for that somehow?

Thanks,
Jutta

On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 9:33:25 PM UTC+1 Eskha wrote:

> Hello Jutta,
>
> What is working for me: I use "Y" format for date and a "-" in front of 
> the date (eg -200 for 200 BC). 
>
> Best regards,
>
> Eskha
>
> Le samedi 28 novembre 2020 à 20:35:53 UTC+1, jutta@googlemail.com a 
> écrit :
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am trying to get the Timelines plugin to work for my project. The 
>> problem is, that my novel is set in the time of the early Roman empire, so 
>> I need my timeline to be able 
>> to display events from around 40 BC to 20 AD. Is there any way to enter 
>> dates before the year 0? Also, even for the first 100 years AD it does not 
>> work. When my datestring starts with two leading zeros, it always 
>> interprets it as 19.. So when I enter a date like
>> 00090917 (which would be the date of the battle in the Teutoburg forest), 
>> the timeline wiki renders it as 1909. For the year 0109 it works correctly. 
>>
>> Are there any solutions for this? If the date format itself does not 
>> allow the dates to be BC, is there a way to use current dates (like, set 
>> everything 2000 years in the future) in the date field so that the macro 
>> knows how to space and order them and then display a text string with the 
>> correct date from another field in the view instead?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jutta
>>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Passing macro output to another macro?

2020-11-28 Thread clutterstack
Hi Petri,

I wonder if you could use list-links-draggable with a template that has an 
explicit draggable  widget in it. 
The draggable widget has an attribute "startactions" that I have used in 
macros to store a "parent" tiddler title into a field, so that I can 
shift-drag a tiddler to move it from one list to another. I haven't tried 
it in conjunction with list-links-draggable, though. 

Best,
Chris

On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 10:05:46 AM UTC-5 Petri M. wrote:

> Hi Tones,
>
> I am now trying to do this with <> instead of using 
> tags. I was thinking that maybe it would be easier to just use fields for 
> this but now I am not that sure...
>
> Do you know if there is a variable which stores the name of the tiddler 
> from which an item is being dragged from? Like actionTiddler has the name 
> of the tiddler being dragged, and targetTiddler (I think?) has the name of 
> where I am dragging it. I would like to remove an item from a list when it 
> is being dragged away from the dropzone. So if I have a tiddler "Parent" 
> and a tiddler "Child", where the tiddler "Parent" has a field "list" with 
> "Child" in it. So it would be
>
> * Parent
> * Child
>
> And now if I drag the "Child" away from the "Parent", I would like to 
> automatically change the "list" field of Parent to reflect that "Child" is 
> no longer its child.
>
> -Petri
>
> On Fri, Nov 27, 2020 at 12:37 AM TW Tones  wrote:
>
>> Petri,
>>
>> Nice code pattern you are suggesting to test if there is one tag, however 
>> this will not work if you decide to organise the same tiddlers with 
>> additional tags. 
>>
>> However if you want to go ahead remember, tags have special handling in 
>> tiddlywiki, but at the very same time the tags field is a field like any 
>> other. Thus if all tags (the 'tags' field) match's all tags.
>> I have not yet reproduced this today. I will provide the exact filter if 
>> I find it.
>>
>> The TOCP plugin allows you to instead use the parent field to store the 
>> parent rather than tags, this would be better in your case.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tones
>>
>> On Thursday, 26 November 2020 at 23:08:42 UTC+11 Petri M. wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Tones,
>>>
>>> Thank you for the input. I did notice that the issue with spaces in tags 
>>> was of my own doing, apparently I messed something up when I was trying to 
>>> make drag-and-dropping from list to list to remove the tag of the old list 
>>> and replace it with the tag of the new list. 
>>>
>>> Everything is working now in an empty tiddlywiki! 
>>>
>>> I was thinking of not messing with the drag-and-drop macro and just 
>>> figure out how to make a filter which only gives me the tiddlers I want. I 
>>> have been trying to figure out how I can make a filter which returns 
>>> tiddlers with tag "Task", but only if there are no other tags. So if I have 
>>> a tiddler "Parent" with a tag "Task" and a tiddler "Child" with tags 
>>> "Parent" and "Task", then the filter would only give me the "Parent" 
>>> tiddler. Seems like a very simple thing but I can't figure it out. I was 
>>> hoping I could've just made a filter that finds all the tiddlers with the 
>>> tag "Task" and then removes everything that has any tags in addition to 
>>> "Task".
>>>
>>> Any ideas? :)
>>>
>>> -Petri
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 12:16 AM TW Tones  wrote:
>>>
 Petri,

 I am only starting to make use of the drag and drop features myself. In 
 this case you are using the macro  list-tagged-draggable but you can build 
 your own. Its is defined in $:/core/macros/list

 I suspect the inability to use a tiddler title with spaces may be a 
 design weakness of the macro.

 A quick solution to current tiddler with spaces *may* be tag={{{ 
 [] }}}

 Tones
 On Thursday, 26 November 2020 at 01:29:17 UTC+11 Petri M. wrote:

> Oh and apparently using <$macrocall $name="list-tagged-draggable" 
> itemTemplate="TODO task list template children" tag=<>/> 
> will break the tags if the currentTiddler has spaces in its name. Putting 
> quotes around the macro <> will just tag it with 
> "<>" and not with "this is my current tag".
>
> BR,
> Petri M
> On Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 3:53:59 PM UTC+2 Petri M. wrote:
>
>> Hi Tones,
>>
>> Ohh thank you so much! I looked into the <$macrocall/> and tried to 
>> use it directly with the <> macro and it worked 
>> perfectly. Well almost perfectly. 
>>
>> There is one issue. If I use <$macrocall 
>> $name="list-tagged-draggable" tag=<>/> then everything 
>> works fine and I am able to make subtasks of subtasks by just dragging 
>> them, which is exactly what I want. However, I cannot figure out on how 
>> to 
>> do the indentation. Inline css with @@margin-left:10px ... @@ does 
>> absolutely nothing. I can fix this by using something like
>> <$macrocall $name="list-tagged-dragg

[tw5] Re: Using TiddlyWiki for fact-based information modelling and database engineering ???

2020-11-28 Thread Charlie Veniot
Project: ORM-ish à la TiddlyWiki 


I've just posted a blog entry about the project and how it really touches 
upon a very long list of my all-time favourite things: My new and ultimate 
intertwingularity project 


There are many links in that blog to a whole bunch of interesting (well, 
wildly interesting to me...) articles in that blog entry.

Project status: I've been really busy experimenting with "forms" (widgets) 
for entering information, and am in the process of dividing the "coded 
fact" field into multiple fields.  It will take me a while to get that done 
and tested well enough before uploading to my website.


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[tw5] Re: [Request] New here but without parent's tags

2020-11-28 Thread clutterstack
OK, how about this for the button actions? Usual disclaimers about backing 
up data! 

\define newHereActions()
<$set name="tags" filter="[] 
[{$:/config/NewTiddler/Tags!!tags}]">
<$action-createtiddler $basetitle=<> 
$savetitle=!!latestHere tags=<> text="* " caption="" 
meta="note"/><$action-navigate $to={{!!latestHere}}/><$action-sendmessage 
$message=tm-edit-tiddler $param={{!!latestHere}}/><$action-setfield 
$field=latestHere/>

\end

I didn't get tm-navigate to work with a brief effort, but action-navigate 
seems good. In fact, the whole thing seems to work if I omit 
action-navigate, but control over the location in the Story may make it 
worth keeping. The final action-setfield deletes the !!latestHere field 
used to store the new tiddler's title for the use of the newHereActions.

I wonder if there's a cleaner way.

Best,
Chris
On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 4:27:10 PM UTC-5 clutterstack wrote:

> ...action-createtiddler, tm-navigate message, and then tm-edit-tiddler?
>
> I'm curious to see the "right" answer to this. :)
>
> On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 4:20:59 PM UTC-5 clutterstack wrote:
>
>> Now I'm trying that, and wondering if it might be easier to create the 
>> tiddler the way you did, and then just remove the superfluous tags with 
>> action-listops...
>>
>> But many others here would know off the bat the best way to increment the 
>> title; I'd have to look into it.
>>
>> Best,
>> Chris
>>
>> On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 4:16:37 PM UTC-5 clutterstack wrote:
>>
>>> Hi David,
>>>
>>> Looks like you are using the tm-new-tiddler message using the original 
>>> tiddler as a template ("$param"), and need to change it to use a title 
>>> parameter instead: 
>>> https://tiddlywiki.com/#WidgetMessage%3A%20tm-new-tiddler
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Chris
>>> On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 9:36:11 AM UTC-5 David Gifford wrote:
>>>
 Hi everyone!

 Below is the snippet for my "New tab here" button. It creates a new 
 tiddler, with the title of the parent tiddler as the title and the tag of 
 the child tiddler. A tabs macro in the parent tiddler displays the 
 children 
 tiddlers as tabs.

 The only problem I have is that the child tiddlers inherit the tags of 
 the parent. I would like for that behavior to stop.

 What do I need to delete, add or change for that to happen? I tried 
 various things but nothing worked. I appreciate any help I can get. 
 Blessings.

 \whitespace trim
 \define newHereActions()
 <$set name="tags" filter="[] 
 [{$:/config/NewTiddler/Tags!!tags}]">
 <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" 
 $param=<> tags="" tags=<> text="* " caption="" 
 meta="note"/>
 
 \end
 \define newHereButton()
 <$button actions=<> 
 tooltip={{$:/language/Buttons/NewHere/Hint}} 
 aria-label={{$:/language/Buttons/NewHere/Caption}} 
 class=<>>
 <$list filter="[match[yes]]">
 {{$:/core/images/folder}}
 
 <$list filter="[match[yes]]">
 
 <$text text={{$:/language/Buttons/NewHere/Caption}}/>
 
 
 
 \end
 <>
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: "State tabs" question

2020-11-28 Thread TW Tones
David,

You can force uniqueness for each tiddler with qualify to the state eg 
state=<> however this will not be unique within the 
tiddler. 

Use   <>   
<>  to have additional tabsets unique 
both to the tiddler and within the tiddler. 

Alternatively if you do not qualify  state=$:/state/tabs/articles  changing 
the tab in one tiddler will be reflected in all other tab sets using the 
same state tiddler. This sometimes has an advantage to users who may want 
to use a particular tab in multiple tiddlers Each open with the last 
selected.

Pick and choose according to the outcome you want.

Tones

On Sunday, 29 November 2020 at 01:53:12 UTC+11 David Gifford wrote:

>
> Hi all
>
> When the tabs macro is used, how important is it to change the state tab 
> to give it a unique identifier ($:/state/tabs/this vs $:/state/tabs/that)? 
> What is at stake? If I have numerous tab macros, but each one in a separate 
> tiddler, will they conflict with each other? Is there a reason they need to 
> be named? Or is the identifier just to help you distinguish them in the 
> sidebar more > systems tab? Or maybe to set the tab that shows as open on 
> startup? 
>
> With my "Stroll on steroids" idea, which leans heavily into using tabs as 
> , I want to know if I (or anyone else using this system) need(s) to do the 
> extra step of giving a unique name to  the $:/state/tab in each tabs macro. 
>
> Thanks in advance for your help!
>

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[tw5] Re: geztting the first word/letter of a list of tiddlers

2020-11-28 Thread Sylvain Naudin
Bonsoir Jean-Pierre, Hi Tones,

I'm playing with a simple phone book / member organisation tool.
Here the last share version : https://tw5.xyz/Annuaire/annuaire.html

1/ I'm wondering If I could put some of your code to create an index, like 
you idea with first letter from tiddler, that would be great ; I've try a 
but failed..

2/ I've a second wish, to auto-complete initials from concatenate 2 fields 
values (like SN for Sylvain Naudin), you will see avatar what I'm mean.

If you have some idea's to achieve this, I'll be happy :)

Cheers,
Sylvain


Le jeudi 19 novembre 2020 à 00:06:24 UTC+1, TW Tones a écrit :

> Jean-Pierre,
>
> Thanks for sharing back. Just remember  {{<>}}  is overloading the 
> shortcut syntax for transcludes, when we use shortcuts they are typically 
> less featured and we need to resort to the long forms such as the 
> transclude widget. However as you become experienced with filters the 
> triple curly braces "filtered transcludes", is a powerful method. See the 
> reference 
>  I 
> am building.   
>
> the thing with a filtered transclude {{{ filter }}} is and field tiddler 
> or content can be used to generate the result of the filter. eg
> {{{ [get[text]] }}} would retrieve the text of the letter tiddler, 
> Here we have access in the filter to control the result, and triple curly 
> bracces can provide values to parameters in widgets param={{{ filter }}} 
> including $macrocall to access macros.
>
> Regards
> Tones
>
> On Thursday, 19 November 2020 at 00:19:38 UTC+11 jn.pierr...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> As a final reply to this post, I can now show you a working solution, 
>> complete within my project: elaborating a glossary entry for French.
>>
>> \define all-initials()
>> <$list filter="[tag[glossaire]]">
>><$set name=1st value={{{ [all[current]split[]first[]] }}}>
>>   <<1st>>
>>
>> 
>> \end
>>
>> \define glossaryList()
>> <$wikify name="all-letters" text=<>>
>> <$list 
>> filter="[uppercase[]split[É]join[E]split[]each:value[]!is[missing]]"
>>  
>> variable="letter">
>>   <$link to=<>/>
>> 
>>
>> <$list 
>> filter="[uppercase[]split[É]join[E]split[]each:value[]!is[missing]]"
>>  
>> variable="letter">
>> <$link to=<>/>
>> <$set name="entries" filter="[addprefix[{{]addsuffix[}}]]">
>> <>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> \end
>>
>> A bit of conundrum yet: I have been required to duplicated the $list 
>> filter="[uppercase[]split[É]join[E]split[]each:value[]!is[missing]]"
>>  
>> variable="letter"> because I have not been able to use its results one way 
>> or another (wikify, variable... no way).
>>
>> But the things that really was strange is that I could not transclude the 
>> tidler of any given letter (like "A" or "M") with
>>
>> <$transclude tiddler=<>/>
>>
>> because its transclude all the letters instead (and not even that, 
>> because the E was missing entries beginning by "é" which the real "E" 
>> tiddler has). And the only working way to generate the {{<>}} 
>> syntax that would work was through the filter of a variable. How strange!
>>
>> This kind of quirks realling make things much slower than what you would 
>> think they have too.
>>
>> Le dimanche 1 novembre 2020 à 14:34:56 UTC+1, Eric Shulman a écrit :
>>
>>> On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 6:53:17 PM UTC-7, Jean-Pierre Rivière 
>>> wrote:

 Other than a question of taste, or of giving a meaningful name to a 
 complex filter preceding the get operator in my example, it seems that 
 subfilter has no other intterest, isn't it?
>>>
>>>
>>> As I already noted in a previous reply (
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/2P6G5NtUuWA/A3Be4gWcBgAJ)
>>>
>>> ... if you wanted to have different filters based on a field value, you 
 could write:
 <$set name="F" filter="[{!!setting}match[somevalue]]" 
 value="[somefilter]" emptyValue="[someotherfilter]">
 <$list filter="[subfilter]"/>
 
 Note in the above example, I've used the "conditional variable 
 assignment" form of $set (see https://tiddlywiki.com/#SetWidget)
>>>
>>>
>>> -e
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: [Request] New here but without parent's tags

2020-11-28 Thread clutterstack
...action-createtiddler, tm-navigate message, and then tm-edit-tiddler?

I'm curious to see the "right" answer to this. :)

On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 4:20:59 PM UTC-5 clutterstack wrote:

> Now I'm trying that, and wondering if it might be easier to create the 
> tiddler the way you did, and then just remove the superfluous tags with 
> action-listops...
>
> But many others here would know off the bat the best way to increment the 
> title; I'd have to look into it.
>
> Best,
> Chris
>
> On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 4:16:37 PM UTC-5 clutterstack wrote:
>
>> Hi David,
>>
>> Looks like you are using the tm-new-tiddler message using the original 
>> tiddler as a template ("$param"), and need to change it to use a title 
>> parameter instead: 
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/#WidgetMessage%3A%20tm-new-tiddler
>>
>> Best,
>> Chris
>> On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 9:36:11 AM UTC-5 David Gifford wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone!
>>>
>>> Below is the snippet for my "New tab here" button. It creates a new 
>>> tiddler, with the title of the parent tiddler as the title and the tag of 
>>> the child tiddler. A tabs macro in the parent tiddler displays the children 
>>> tiddlers as tabs.
>>>
>>> The only problem I have is that the child tiddlers inherit the tags of 
>>> the parent. I would like for that behavior to stop.
>>>
>>> What do I need to delete, add or change for that to happen? I tried 
>>> various things but nothing worked. I appreciate any help I can get. 
>>> Blessings.
>>>
>>> \whitespace trim
>>> \define newHereActions()
>>> <$set name="tags" filter="[] 
>>> [{$:/config/NewTiddler/Tags!!tags}]">
>>> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" $param=<> 
>>> tags="" tags=<> text="* " caption="" meta="note"/>
>>> 
>>> \end
>>> \define newHereButton()
>>> <$button actions=<> 
>>> tooltip={{$:/language/Buttons/NewHere/Hint}} 
>>> aria-label={{$:/language/Buttons/NewHere/Caption}} 
>>> class=<>>
>>> <$list filter="[match[yes]]">
>>> {{$:/core/images/folder}}
>>> 
>>> <$list filter="[match[yes]]">
>>> 
>>> <$text text={{$:/language/Buttons/NewHere/Caption}}/>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> \end
>>> <>
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: [Request] New here but without parent's tags

2020-11-28 Thread clutterstack
Now I'm trying that, and wondering if it might be easier to create the 
tiddler the way you did, and then just remove the superfluous tags with 
action-listops...

But many others here would know off the bat the best way to increment the 
title; I'd have to look into it.

Best,
Chris

On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 4:16:37 PM UTC-5 clutterstack wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> Looks like you are using the tm-new-tiddler message using the original 
> tiddler as a template ("$param"), and need to change it to use a title 
> parameter instead: 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#WidgetMessage%3A%20tm-new-tiddler
>
> Best,
> Chris
> On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 9:36:11 AM UTC-5 David Gifford wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone!
>>
>> Below is the snippet for my "New tab here" button. It creates a new 
>> tiddler, with the title of the parent tiddler as the title and the tag of 
>> the child tiddler. A tabs macro in the parent tiddler displays the children 
>> tiddlers as tabs.
>>
>> The only problem I have is that the child tiddlers inherit the tags of 
>> the parent. I would like for that behavior to stop.
>>
>> What do I need to delete, add or change for that to happen? I tried 
>> various things but nothing worked. I appreciate any help I can get. 
>> Blessings.
>>
>> \whitespace trim
>> \define newHereActions()
>> <$set name="tags" filter="[] 
>> [{$:/config/NewTiddler/Tags!!tags}]">
>> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" $param=<> 
>> tags="" tags=<> text="* " caption="" meta="note"/>
>> 
>> \end
>> \define newHereButton()
>> <$button actions=<> 
>> tooltip={{$:/language/Buttons/NewHere/Hint}} 
>> aria-label={{$:/language/Buttons/NewHere/Caption}} 
>> class=<>>
>> <$list filter="[match[yes]]">
>> {{$:/core/images/folder}}
>> 
>> <$list filter="[match[yes]]">
>> 
>> <$text text={{$:/language/Buttons/NewHere/Caption}}/>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> \end
>> <>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: [Request] New here but without parent's tags

2020-11-28 Thread clutterstack
Hi David,

Looks like you are using the tm-new-tiddler message using the original 
tiddler as a template ("$param"), and need to change it to use a title 
parameter instead: https://tiddlywiki.com/#WidgetMessage%3A%20tm-new-tiddler

Best,
Chris
On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 9:36:11 AM UTC-5 David Gifford wrote:

> Hi everyone!
>
> Below is the snippet for my "New tab here" button. It creates a new 
> tiddler, with the title of the parent tiddler as the title and the tag of 
> the child tiddler. A tabs macro in the parent tiddler displays the children 
> tiddlers as tabs.
>
> The only problem I have is that the child tiddlers inherit the tags of the 
> parent. I would like for that behavior to stop.
>
> What do I need to delete, add or change for that to happen? I tried 
> various things but nothing worked. I appreciate any help I can get. 
> Blessings.
>
> \whitespace trim
> \define newHereActions()
> <$set name="tags" filter="[] 
> [{$:/config/NewTiddler/Tags!!tags}]">
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" $param=<> 
> tags="" tags=<> text="* " caption="" meta="note"/>
> 
> \end
> \define newHereButton()
> <$button actions=<> 
> tooltip={{$:/language/Buttons/NewHere/Hint}} 
> aria-label={{$:/language/Buttons/NewHere/Caption}} 
> class=<>>
> <$list filter="[match[yes]]">
> {{$:/core/images/folder}}
> 
> <$list filter="[match[yes]]">
> 
> <$text text={{$:/language/Buttons/NewHere/Caption}}/>
> 
> 
> 
> \end
> <>

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[tw5] Re: Managing Book Quotes

2020-11-28 Thread springer
Manish, I've just added a mock-up of how I would have begun organizing my 
quotes, if I had been working natively in TiddlyWiki from the beginning:
https://springerspandrel.github.io/tw/ethicsatwes.html#excerpt%20overview

At some point, I'd like to convert my teaching projects over so that 
excerpts have their own tiddlers in this way; it's the right way to go.

For this mockup, I haven't added fancy css or custom ViewTemplate settings. 
But the most important thing is data structure, and having confidence that 
you're setting up an approach that you can build upon without regrets. 

Last tip: be aware that some tempting field names — especially "title" 
"text" and "source" should be *avoided* for holding your bibliographic 
metadata, because TW5 is already using those field-names to track aspects 
of your tiddlers. For a list of those "already taken" field names, see 
here: https://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlerFields

-Springer
On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 3:28:12 PM UTC-5 springer wrote:

> Manish,
>
> I just replied in the other thread. But I'll recap briefly here, for folks 
> coming across this thread: the best approach is probably to have one 
> excerpt per tiddler, and put only the quoted passage itself in the body of 
> the tiddler. Then use fields as needed for the metadata attached to each 
> excerpt, and a tag such as "quote" or "excerpt" if you like. 
>
> If you use the lovely Shiraz plugin , 
> you can then also set up a tiddler for the book (or for the author, etc.) 
> that filters exactly those tiddlers that have the field values you need, 
> and which displays columns for the metadata you care about (caption, page, 
> notes, etc.). One great thing about these dynamic tables is that you can 
> see the whole list/table of excerpts *and* effortlessly drop-down to see 
> the details of any one excerpt as needed.
>
> Feel free to follow up!
>
> -Springer
> On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 12:34:15 PM UTC-5 manishm...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Dear all
>> I am relatively new to TiddlyWiki with no knowledge of coding. :)
>> I have a query on collating the quotes that I take note of. For each book 
>> I read, I have separate tiddlers named after the book. While I type out a 
>> relevant quote from each book in the respective tiddler, what is the best 
>> way to access them all in one place for future reference. I dont find 
>> adding a tag of 'Quotes' to each tiddler helpful. This just gives me the 
>> list of all the Book Tiddlers...
>>
>> Thank you all in advance. 
>> Regards
>> Manish
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Date format for the Timelines plugin

2020-11-28 Thread Eskha
Hello Jutta,

What is working for me: I use "Y" format for date and a "-" in front of the 
date (eg -200 for 200 BC). 

Best regards,

Eskha

Le samedi 28 novembre 2020 à 20:35:53 UTC+1, jutta@googlemail.com a 
écrit :

> Hi,
>
> I am trying to get the Timelines plugin to work for my project. The 
> problem is, that my novel is set in the time of the early Roman empire, so 
> I need my timeline to be able 
> to display events from around 40 BC to 20 AD. Is there any way to enter 
> dates before the year 0? Also, even for the first 100 years AD it does not 
> work. When my datestring starts with two leading zeros, it always 
> interprets it as 19.. So when I enter a date like
> 00090917 (which would be the date of the battle in the Teutoburg forest), 
> the timeline wiki renders it as 1909. For the year 0109 it works correctly. 
>
> Are there any solutions for this? If the date format itself does not allow 
> the dates to be BC, is there a way to use current dates (like, set 
> everything 2000 years in the future) in the date field so that the macro 
> knows how to space and order them and then display a text string with the 
> correct date from another field in the view instead?
>
> Thanks,
> Jutta
>

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[tw5] Re: Plugin: Omnibus tiddlers

2020-11-28 Thread clutterstack
Thanks, Mohammad! 

I am not sure that my proto-theme is something that would be useful in its 
current state, but I do appreciate the importance of sharing visual options 
for TiddlyWiki. I admire your work on that front!

I'll have a look to understand a bit more what's involved in a usable theme.

Best,
Chris


On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 11:47:04 PM UTC-5 Mohammad wrote:

> Good progress! Nice tools!
>
> I see new theme and palette in your new release. It would be great to 
> announce them and lets interested user download them separately.
>
> Thank you for sharing Chris!
>
> --Mohammad
>
> On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 11:32:19 PM UTC+3:30 clutterstack wrote:
>
>> In case anyone's interested, I have some updated versions of my plugins 
>> going at https://clutterstack.github.io/can-tw/workshop/.
>>
>> It's a never-ending evolution, breaking and fixing and tweaking, but I 
>> thought I'd share an imperfect public wiki. The latest version of Omni 
>> addresses some of David Gifford's notes: hiding of the toolbar that changes 
>> modes, and more sensible placeholder text. I also fixed whole-tiddler 
>> folding for omnibuses, which I had broken and then neglected for a long 
>> time. 
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Chris
>> On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 3:56:02 PM UTC-4 David Gifford wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Chris! Look forward to seeing how this develops.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 1:32:58 PM UTC-6 clutterstack wrote:
>>>
 Hi David,

 Wow, I'd better have a look at how this plugin has changed since 
 August. Thanks so much for your thoughtful feedback! 

 ...It hasn't changed on github, but locally the Omnibus plugin has had 
 a lot of work under the hood; maybe not as much superficially. As often 
 happens, I had intended to update the public version frequently, but life 
 has kept me busy and my own modifications rarely seem quite ready to share 
 and document. "Another one bites the dust" was never meant to stay up. 
 Heh. 
 It's still there in my local wikis.

 I prefer the title input field beneath the text, because if I'm adding 
 within an omnibus I usually don't want to bother with a title -- and if I 
 do, often the title comes to me only after I've written its contents. But 
 the input fields should certainly identify themselves clearly. This layout 
 is specified in my "Quick" plugin,

 The current (my local) version has a tiddler tagged "$:/tags/ViewTemplate" 
 to display the Omnibus stuff after the body on tiddlers tagged "omnibus", 
 and I have not repaired the effect that has on folding of the whole 
 tiddler 
 (i.e. it doesn't fold). That's on my list of things to fix, but it's after 
 a lot of other issues that get in the way of my using my wikis. There's a 
 snowplow effect of annoyances that don't stop the plugin from functioning 
 that I've really ignored -- as with the "omnibus" tag, which just hasn't 
 bothered me enough to clean up...yet.

 Incidentally, nearer the start of this odyssey I really wasn't sure to 
 what extent I wanted to use tags vs. custom fields, in general. Did I want 
 to use several categories of tags, and have some hidden? Did I want lots 
 of 
 custom fields? I've become much more comfortable with the idea of adding 
 fields to tiddlers.

 As for putting the omnibus-mode icons in the sidebar, certainly that 
 must be doable. I do sometimes have more than one omni open, in different 
 modes (one may be under intensive construction, another could be just for 
 reading, and another a todo list). On my current wikis, only the top 
 omnibus shows the mode-selection icons and sub-omnis follow its setting, 
 so 
 it's less cluttered. I can see the desirability of cleaning the interface 
 for publishing read-only omnis. Maybe a view-mode toolbar button to toggle 
 the mode icons? Then it could be per-tiddler.

 Cheers,
 Chris
 On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 10:51:47 AM UTC-4 David Gifford wrote:

> Hi clutterstack
>
> Here are my reactions:
>
> 1. That export tab is a stroke of genius! Time saver for exporting 
> multiple-but-not-all tiddlers.
> 2. That drag tags tab is also a stroke of genius. I don't use tags 
> that much, but that is a great idea.
> 3. It took me a while to figure out that effectively, the Another one 
> bites the dust is the text field editor and the Title is the title 
> editor. 
> I am so used to seeing title on top and text below. And since they are 
> headers, that reinforced my idea that the top was the tiddler title, 
> which 
> made me wonder what the title field was for. Not saying you should change 
> anything, just letting you know of my confusion. Or perhaps replace 
> Another 
> one bites the dust with Text or something that identifies what it is for.
> 4. N

[tw5] Re: Managing Book Quotes

2020-11-28 Thread springer
Manish,

I just replied in the other thread. But I'll recap briefly here, for folks 
coming across this thread: the best approach is probably to have one 
excerpt per tiddler, and put only the quoted passage itself in the body of 
the tiddler. Then use fields as needed for the metadata attached to each 
excerpt, and a tag such as "quote" or "excerpt" if you like. 

If you use the lovely Shiraz plugin , 
you can then also set up a tiddler for the book (or for the author, etc.) 
that filters exactly those tiddlers that have the field values you need, 
and which displays columns for the metadata you care about (caption, page, 
notes, etc.). One great thing about these dynamic tables is that you can 
see the whole list/table of excerpts *and* effortlessly drop-down to see 
the details of any one excerpt as needed.

Feel free to follow up!

-Springer
On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 12:34:15 PM UTC-5 manishm...@gmail.com 
wrote:

>
> Dear all
> I am relatively new to TiddlyWiki with no knowledge of coding. :)
> I have a query on collating the quotes that I take note of. For each book 
> I read, I have separate tiddlers named after the book. While I type out a 
> relevant quote from each book in the respective tiddler, what is the best 
> way to access them all in one place for future reference. I dont find 
> adding a tag of 'Quotes' to each tiddler helpful. This just gives me the 
> list of all the Book Tiddlers...
>
> Thank you all in advance. 
> Regards
> Manish
>

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki best practices

2020-11-28 Thread springer
Manish, there are different ways to think about organizing quotes.

If I had been working in Tiddlywiki all along, I'd probably set up each 
excerpt as its own tiddler, putting only the actual excerpt in the body of 
the tiddler and using fields for various citation details such as author, 
title, page, meta-title (journal or enclosing book), notes. I'd tag each 
one with "excerpt" and use an excerpt-specific template to make each 
excerpt display with the relevant fields as desired. Then I would use a 
dynamic table for any desired "slice" of tiddlers (filtered based on a 
certain source, or a certain author, or with a certain word or keyword, 
whatever). If you're starting fresh with TiddlyWiki, I recommend this 
granular approach. A tiddler should generally be the smallest informational 
unit that is of interest to you and/or your audience.

In my own case, I had already developed (starting in the 1990s) a 
full-fledged database of research- and teaching-related excerpts using the 
FileMaker database app (which was my software brain prior to TiddlyWiki, 
and still handles most of my document-generation tasks). And my main use 
for excerpts in TiddlyWiki was to organize the excerpts for each particular 
reading, for access during classroom discussion. (It was easy for me to get 
FileMaker to "dress" the excerpts up with various bits of syntax and bundle 
them in sets based on my usual teaching needs. At the time (duing TW 
Classic times) it was easier to copy and paste large sets; I didn't know 
how to import a whole array.) So, I batch-generated an excerpt set for each 
class session, using a combination of <$details> formatting (using 
telmiger's plugin, referenced earlier in this thread) and 
quotation-graphics css. The result, for each chapter or article, is a 
neat-looking "accordion" array of quotes, where the summary for each 
excerpt includes a "teaser" phrase and page number, and the drop-down 
allows us to expand passages of interest as needed during discussion. You 
can hit "edit" within an excerpt-oriented tiddler to see what the guts look 
like: 
https://springerspandrel.github.io/tw/ethicsatwes.html#Arisotle%201%20excerpts 
...  But again, the reason I didn't take a "granular" approach (one tiddler 
per excerpt) is idiosyncratic, and I don't recommend emulating this aspect 
of my site organization!

I believe some other folks here have actually developed a full-fledged 
biblio tool for tiddlywiki. In particular, if you haven't seen it yet, 
check out Mohammad's Refnotes plugin: https://kookma.github.io/Refnotes/

-Springer




On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 12:34:33 PM UTC-5 manishm...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Hi Springer
> I have no coding knowledge and have been exploring a way to collate quotes 
> and excerpts. 
> Would it be possible to educate me on the way you have listed the Excerpts 
> in your tiddlywiki. Or could you please direct me to some links that 
> explain the process. 
> Thanks a ton
>
> Manish
>
> On Friday, 27 November, 2020 at 1:27:15 am UTC+5:30 springer wrote:
>
>> Cl0d, exactly what I find marvelous about TiddlyWiki is how much it can 
>> be molded to very different purposes. I maintain different TW5 projects for 
>> different purposes, with different plugin sets and other customizations 
>> suited to the purposes of each project. 
>>
>> Two things that I suspect I do more than most people are:
>>
>> (1) Make a dynamic table, using the Shiraz plugin,  for virtually every 
>> important tag. It offers a great compact way to get the big picture on any 
>> slice that interests me. I used to use TOC-style tiddlers for this purpose, 
>> and that structure still has uses, but the dynamic table is more powerful. 
>> I love that I can structure each such dynamic table to focus on the fields 
>> that are important for that particular tag. (Of course, you can build a 
>> dynamic table around criteria other than tags, but that's my main workhorse 
>> use.) I also tend to populate my stylesheet with tag-specific css, so that 
>> there are clear visual cues as to which kind of tiddler we're looking at. 
>> (I use TW for teaching. So, a quiz question tiddler has a look and feel 
>> that differs from an author-specific tiddler or a definition tiddler or a 
>> tiddler focused on excerpts from the readings, etc.)
>>
>> (2) Liberally employ a "details" GUI for things that I don't want to see 
>> (or don't want to show to students) unless/until it's time to dig in 
>> deeper. I use telmiger's details plugin, because it's super-flexible about 
>> the contents within the details area (allows any formatting or markup you 
>> can think of within the hidden "pocket" area). But to put ordinary text 
>> elaboration into a details "pocket," Shiraz's details function is simple 
>> and great too.
>>
>> If you'd like to poke around on one of my teaching sites, feel free to 
>> visit this link: 
>> https://springerspandrel.github.io/tw/ethicsatwes.html#TiddlyWiki
>>
>> Enjoy the adventure of discover

[tw5] Re: My amazing you tube Video.....:)

2020-11-28 Thread Ste
Hi Stan,
Thanks for the kind words.
It's still there on tiddlyspot, it's the editing capability which is
down and out at the momenent on tiddlyspot.
stephenteacher.tiddlyspot.com

On Saturday, 28 November 2020 at 13:39:18 UTC stan...@gmail.com wrote:

> Ste, I watched your video thanks to Dave Gifford sharing the link.  I was 
> particularly impressed with your Engineer's Notebook and the structure 
> which you went through pretty fast.  Since TiddlySpot is down, is there 
> someplace to take a look at the  Engineer's Notebook TW? I am about to 
> start the second edition of my Numerical Analysis book and you have given 
> me a great idea for ancillary material.   There is no way a college student 
> in Engineering cannot figure out how to navigate a wiki.  
>
> Thanks,
> Stan
>
> On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 11:42:56 PM UTC-5 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> Thank you David!
>>
>> Cheers
>> Mohammad
>>
>> On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 2:47:47 AM UTC+3:30 David Gifford wrote:
>>
>>> I think I found it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEQWc-alBMQ&t=249s
>>>
>>> On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 11:53:44 AM UTC-6 Mohammad wrote:
>>>
 Hi Ste,
  Congrats! Would you mind to share the link here?

 Cheers
 Mohammad

 On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 2:04:07 PM UTC+3:30 Ste wrote:

> Well, it's not that amazing (I say 'Er' an awful lot)...a while ago I 
> put up a quick intro to TiddlyWiki video in the hope of enticing my 
> colleagues to the dark side.
>
> Despite me putting up many more really interesting (read 'really niche 
> engineering content') videos up for my students the TiddlyWiki video is 
> my 
> most watched one.  It's not going to let me retire on the youtube revenue 
> (only just over 1000 views) but does seem to come up regularly in 
> searches.  This suggests to me that TiddlyWiki visibility on youtube is 
> quite lowas there is no other reason I'd be appearing on searches :D
>
> So...get screencasting people... let us tell the world! :D
>
> Ste
>


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[tw5] Date format for the Timelines plugin

2020-11-28 Thread 'MissyLaMotte' via TiddlyWiki
Hi,

I am trying to get the Timelines plugin to work for my project. The problem 
is, that my novel is set in the time of the early Roman empire, so I need 
my timeline to be able 
to display events from around 40 BC to 20 AD. Is there any way to enter 
dates before the year 0? Also, even for the first 100 years AD it does not 
work. When my datestring starts with two leading zeros, it always 
interprets it as 19.. So when I enter a date like
00090917 (which would be the date of the battle in the Teutoburg forest), 
the timeline wiki renders it as 1909. For the year 0109 it works correctly. 

Are there any solutions for this? If the date format itself does not allow 
the dates to be BC, is there a way to use current dates (like, set 
everything 2000 years in the future) in the date field so that the macro 
knows how to space and order them and then display a text string with the 
correct date from another field in the view instead?

Thanks,
Jutta

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[tw5] Tiddlywiki 5.1.23 New Features: Dark mode for Code mirror and Highlight.js

2020-11-28 Thread Mohammad
In TW 5.1.22 and earlier when you switch to dark palette there is a problem 
that CodeMirror and Highlight.JS do not follow palette colors. In TW 5.1.23 
this problem has gone!

1. Open https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/
2. Change your pallet to something dark like Spartan night or Cupertino, or 
Gruvbox
3. Create a tiddler and see how Codemirror editor looks in dark mode
4. Add some code e.g. css, JS or any language supported by TW-Codemirror 
plugin
5. check how they look

It is good to give feedback here or 
on https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/5128

--Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki best practices

2020-11-28 Thread Manish Mohandas
Hi Springer
I have no coding knowledge and have been exploring a way to collate quotes 
and excerpts. 
Would it be possible to educate me on the way you have listed the Excerpts 
in your tiddlywiki. Or could you please direct me to some links that 
explain the process. 
Thanks a ton

Manish

On Friday, 27 November, 2020 at 1:27:15 am UTC+5:30 springer wrote:

> Cl0d, exactly what I find marvelous about TiddlyWiki is how much it can be 
> molded to very different purposes. I maintain different TW5 projects for 
> different purposes, with different plugin sets and other customizations 
> suited to the purposes of each project. 
>
> Two things that I suspect I do more than most people are:
>
> (1) Make a dynamic table, using the Shiraz plugin,  for virtually every 
> important tag. It offers a great compact way to get the big picture on any 
> slice that interests me. I used to use TOC-style tiddlers for this purpose, 
> and that structure still has uses, but the dynamic table is more powerful. 
> I love that I can structure each such dynamic table to focus on the fields 
> that are important for that particular tag. (Of course, you can build a 
> dynamic table around criteria other than tags, but that's my main workhorse 
> use.) I also tend to populate my stylesheet with tag-specific css, so that 
> there are clear visual cues as to which kind of tiddler we're looking at. 
> (I use TW for teaching. So, a quiz question tiddler has a look and feel 
> that differs from an author-specific tiddler or a definition tiddler or a 
> tiddler focused on excerpts from the readings, etc.)
>
> (2) Liberally employ a "details" GUI for things that I don't want to see 
> (or don't want to show to students) unless/until it's time to dig in 
> deeper. I use telmiger's details plugin, because it's super-flexible about 
> the contents within the details area (allows any formatting or markup you 
> can think of within the hidden "pocket" area). But to put ordinary text 
> elaboration into a details "pocket," Shiraz's details function is simple 
> and great too.
>
> If you'd like to poke around on one of my teaching sites, feel free to 
> visit this link: 
> https://springerspandrel.github.io/tw/ethicsatwes.html#TiddlyWiki
>
> Enjoy the adventure of discovering the possibilities!
>
> -Springer 
> On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 2:06:10 PM UTC-5 Cl0d wrote:
>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> Been using TiddlyWiki for a few weeks now. I'm still learning how to cope 
>> with the enormous potential offered by TiddlyWiki.
>>
>> For example, I discovered today that it was possible to create a dynamic 
>> table of content using keywords. 
>>
>> So I was wondering, what are your best practices, or let's say, advices, 
>> for using TiddlyWiki ? How does your "basic wiki" look like ? What plugins 
>> and/or custom features do you use ? 
>>
>> I'm still in a transitional phase, meaning that I'm writing my new notes 
>> in TiddlyWiki to get used to it and I'm at the same time trying to discover 
>> new tools to organize my future wiki's in the best way possible.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for every answer.
>>
>

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[tw5] Managing Book Quotes

2020-11-28 Thread Manish Mohandas

Dear all
I am relatively new to TiddlyWiki with no knowledge of coding. :)
I have a query on collating the quotes that I take note of. For each book I 
read, I have separate tiddlers named after the book. While I type out a 
relevant quote from each book in the respective tiddler, what is the best 
way to access them all in one place for future reference. I dont find 
adding a tag of 'Quotes' to each tiddler helpful. This just gives me the 
list of all the Book Tiddlers...

Thank you all in advance. 
Regards
Manish

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[tw5] "State tabs" question

2020-11-28 Thread David Gifford

Hi all

When the tabs macro is used, how important is it to change the state tab to 
give it a unique identifier ($:/state/tabs/this vs $:/state/tabs/that)? 
What is at stake? If I have numerous tab macros, but each one in a separate 
tiddler, will they conflict with each other? Is there a reason they need to 
be named? Or is the identifier just to help you distinguish them in the 
sidebar more > systems tab? Or maybe to set the tab that shows as open on 
startup? 

With my "Stroll on steroids" idea, which leans heavily into using tabs as , 
I want to know if I (or anyone else using this system) need(s) to do the 
extra step of giving a unique name to  the $:/state/tab in each tabs macro. 

Thanks in advance for your help!

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[tw5] [Request] New here but without parent's tags

2020-11-28 Thread David Gifford
Hi everyone!

Below is the snippet for my "New tab here" button. It creates a new 
tiddler, with the title of the parent tiddler as the title and the tag of 
the child tiddler. A tabs macro in the parent tiddler displays the children 
tiddlers as tabs.

The only problem I have is that the child tiddlers inherit the tags of the 
parent. I would like for that behavior to stop.

What do I need to delete, add or change for that to happen? I tried various 
things but nothing worked. I appreciate any help I can get. Blessings.

\whitespace trim
\define newHereActions()
<$set name="tags" filter="[] 
[{$:/config/NewTiddler/Tags!!tags}]">
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" $param=<> 
tags="" tags=<> text="* " caption="" meta="note"/>

\end
\define newHereButton()
<$button actions=<> 
tooltip={{$:/language/Buttons/NewHere/Hint}} 
aria-label={{$:/language/Buttons/NewHere/Caption}} 
class=<>>
<$list filter="[match[yes]]">
{{$:/core/images/folder}}

<$list filter="[match[yes]]">

<$text text={{$:/language/Buttons/NewHere/Caption}}/>



\end
<>

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[tw5] Re: Stroll on steroids

2020-11-28 Thread David Gifford
I updated the file to make it clear that this is a preview of coming 
attractions, not something to use as is. I hope to do this as a project in 
December and January for a January release.

On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 5:16:06 PM UTC-6 David Gifford wrote:

> Hi all
>
> At the moment this is just an experiment. It has a lot of clean up 
> necessary to make it publishable as a finished product. But if I get a lot 
> of requests, I may clean this up during my vacation in December.
>
> I played with this combination of features and it is really fast. 
>
> Fast generation of tabs as subtopics of an article.
> Editor autolists so it is easy to to start new lines and indent in 
> bulleted lists.
> Modal window button Eric helped me with
> Everything from Stroll
>
> https://giffmex.org/experiments/stroll.on.steroids.html
>
> Read the instructions, play with it for half an hour, and let me know what 
> you think.
>

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[tw5] Re: My amazing you tube Video.....:)

2020-11-28 Thread stan...@gmail.com
Ste, I watched your video thanks to Dave Gifford sharing the link.  I was 
particularly impressed with your Engineer's Notebook and the structure 
which you went through pretty fast.  Since TiddlySpot is down, is there 
someplace to take a look at the  Engineer's Notebook TW? I am about to 
start the second edition of my Numerical Analysis book and you have given 
me a great idea for ancillary material.   There is no way a college student 
in Engineering cannot figure out how to navigate a wiki.  

Thanks,
Stan

On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 11:42:56 PM UTC-5 Mohammad wrote:

> Thank you David!
>
> Cheers
> Mohammad
>
> On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 2:47:47 AM UTC+3:30 David Gifford wrote:
>
>> I think I found it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEQWc-alBMQ&t=249s
>>
>> On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 11:53:44 AM UTC-6 Mohammad wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Ste,
>>>  Congrats! Would you mind to share the link here?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Mohammad
>>>
>>> On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 2:04:07 PM UTC+3:30 Ste wrote:
>>>
 Well, it's not that amazing (I say 'Er' an awful lot)...a while ago I 
 put up a quick intro to TiddlyWiki video in the hope of enticing my 
 colleagues to the dark side.

 Despite me putting up many more really interesting (read 'really niche 
 engineering content') videos up for my students the TiddlyWiki video is my 
 most watched one.  It's not going to let me retire on the youtube revenue 
 (only just over 1000 views) but does seem to come up regularly in 
 searches.  This suggests to me that TiddlyWiki visibility on youtube is 
 quite lowas there is no other reason I'd be appearing on searches :D

 So...get screencasting people... let us tell the world! :D

 Ste

>>>

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[tw5] Question about markdown folder integration

2020-11-28 Thread LeoLeo123
Hi guys. I recently found this post which is about loading a folder of .md 
files as tiddlers.
(1) Integration with Obsidian.md : TiddlyWiki5 (reddit.com) 

  
I follow that but even though the .md files are loaded successfully, all 
the .tid, plugins and image files are unable to be loaded.

Here are my settings.
I put the tiddlywiki.files under .\tiddlers
```
{
"directories": [
{
"path": "./TheVault",
"filesRegExp": "^.*\\.md$",
"isTiddlerFile": true,
"fields": {
"title": {"source": "basename"},
"created": {"source": "created"},
"modified": {"source": "modified"},
"type": "text/x-markdown"
}
}
]
}
```
I tried to move the tiddlywiki.files inside the `The Vault` folder and 
change the path to "path": "./",. However, when I load too many .md files 
(more than around 50), I will not be able to open the wiki and error is 
shown.

Is there any way that I can keep my plugins and other tiddlers?
Thank you very much. 

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[tw5] Re: showing a section of text from a template only when the field is present

2020-11-28 Thread 'MissyLaMotte' via TiddlyWiki
Fantastic, that was exactly what I needed. Works like a charm. Thank you 
very much.

On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 8:49:17 PM UTC+1 Eric Shulman wrote:

> On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 11:27:24 AM UTC-8 jutta@googlemail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> in my template I have something like:
>> Name: {{!!char_name}}, alias: {{!!alias}}
>> on my actual Charakter tiddler I only have the field char_name, but not 
>> alias, so it renders to
>> Name: John Doe, alias:
>> and I would like to find a way to hide the ",alias: " part completely in 
>> that case.
>>
>
> Try this:
> {{!!char_name}}<$list filter="[has[alias]]">, alias: 
> {{!!alias}}
>
> Notes:
> * the has[alias] operator only returns the currentTiddler if the alias 
> field is non-blank
> * if you wanted to allow a blank alias field (but still require the field 
> to exist), use has:field[alias] instead
>
> enjoy,
> -e 
>

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