[tw5] Re: Nested List from a customized list

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

That is extremely close to what I need but there is one wrinkle that isn't 
obvious. If you look at my example, you'll see that the second and third 
have accent marks on the leading letter, α (alpha).  It would be nice, if 
it is possible, for the routine to ignore the accent and breath mark and 
group them as simply alpha. In the system I'm working in there are 
something six combinations of accents that can go on the first character 
but the accents should be ignored for this purpose. Is that possible? If 
not I can always go to my alternate plan of adding a field that would 
contain the character I want to use.

On Sunday, February 14, 2021 at 5:58:13 PM UTC-6 Eric Shulman wrote:

> On Sunday, February 14, 2021 at 3:01:56 PM UTC-8 Stephen Kimmel wrote:
>
>> several tiddlers that have names in Greek letters. I want to create a 
>> list rather like the sidebar type list with the heading being the first 
>> letter of the tiddler name followed by a list of tiddler titles that start 
>> with that Greek letter.
>>
>
> Using this list of greek letters: (48 symbols, upper and lower case for 
> each)
> *Α α Β β Γ γ Δ δ Ε ε Ζ ζ Η η Θ θ Ι ι Κ κ Λ λ Μ μ Ν ν Ξ ξ Ο ο Π π Ρ ρ Σ σ Τ 
> τ Υ υ Φ φ Χ χ Ψ ψ Ω ω*
>
> NOTE: A, B, E, H, K, M, N, O, P, T, Y, and X are *NOT* standard ASCII 
> characters, but are actual greek characters, copied and pasted directly 
> from the first paragraph of this page:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_alphabet
>
> <$list filter="[enlist[Α α Β β Γ γ Δ δ Ε ε Ζ ζ Η η Θ θ Ι ι Κ κ Λ λ Μ μ Ν ν 
> Ξ ξ Ο ο Π π Ρ ρ Σ σ Τ τ Υ υ Φ φ Χ χ Ψ ψ Ω ω]]" variable="letter">
><$list filter="[all[]prefixcount[]!match[0]]">
>   <>
>   <$list filter="[all[]prefix]">
>   <$link />
>   
>
> 
>
> Notes:
> * the first $list sets the "letter" variable to each of the 48 symbols, 
> one at a time
> * the second $list checks to see if there are any tiddlers that start with 
> the current letter
> * the letter is displayed on a line by itself
> * the third $list finds each tiddler that starts with the current letter
> * a link to each matching tiddler is displayed, indented by a space, on a 
> line by itself
>
> enjoy,
> -e
>

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[tw5] Nested List from a customized list

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

This will probably strike some of you as ridiculously simple ... I'm 
working with a wiki that contains several tiddlers that have names in Greek 
letters. I want to create a list rather like the sidebar type list with the 
heading being the first letter of the tiddler name followed by a list of 
tiddler titles that start with that Greek letter. So my list would look 
something like:

α
  αγαπε
  ἄγω
  ἀναβαίνω
β
  βάλλω
  βλέπω 

I want to exclude any tiddler that doesn't begin with a Greek letter so I'm 
assuming that I would have to supply a list of starting characters.

I would appreciate it if someone could point me in the right direction on 
this.

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[tw5] Re: [Highlight Text] A shortcut or a button in the editor toolbar?

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

There are buttons to highlight a text selection, change the character color 
of a text selection and select the colors for those changes in 
http://skplugins.tiddlyspot.com/ and some other goodies as well.

On Friday, July 31, 2020 at 7:44:56 AM UTC-5, Prestige wrote:
>
>
> Hello folks,
>
> I needed some highlighting tool, and I did find some macros to do it, I 
> was just wondering if its possible to have a direct shortcut or a button in 
> the editor toolbar to highlight text?  
>
> Regards,
> Prestige
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: CSV table

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

Ankit,

When I first developed Tablehelper 
http://skplugins.tiddlyspot.com/#TableHelper (which predated the XLSX and 
the regex abilities in TW) I was copying a selected area in an Excel file 
and pasting it into a tiddler. That data came across as lines with tabs 
separating the individual cells. What I wanted a TW table and not just 
something that looked like a table in TW. I later added the ability to 
convert CSV files which are comma separated cells rather than tab separated 
cells so I added that capability to my routine. As Eric points out, though, 
some cells contain commas and other things that can trip up simple regex 
statements. I ultimately decided that the result wasn't going to be 
perfect, just easier to finish converting manually. So I added the option 
to do only tab separated fields which it sounds like what you need.

One point to remember, if you are altering a javascript routine, you have 
to save and refresh the wiki for the change to take effect.

Stephen

On Wednesday, July 29, 2020 at 2:41:32 AM UTC-5, Ankit Mittal wrote:
>
> Thanks chaps, for this discussion... helps me understand a few things. 
>
> Although I still dont understand that when i change the comma in the 
> underlying javascript of the parser why it does not honor the change...
>
> For my problem of excel workflow, what i need is just the simple 
> requirement to parse data that is tab separated rather than comma 
> separated. The work done by Joshua already does the heavy lifting so i am 
> going to try and create a editor button that opens a modal asking for user 
> input and then create a tiddler of type application/csv using that user 
> input and transclude it on current tiddler... something like excise but 
> with ability to provide application type can do that too... just not sure 
> if i am setting a goal too high.
>
> Would either of you gentleman kindly point me to the code behind excise 
> button please? 
>
> Regards,
> Ankit
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: [ Demo ] : floating editor toolbar

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

As it runs out the fix to the preview was easy enough. All I had to do was 
to move the opening  to a new position 
directly in front of the reveal pop-up line.

I was also able to put back the standard editor tool bar by adding the 
removed code ahead of the relocated position:relative div line. 

I look forward to seeing the improvements you have in mind.

Stephen


On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 2:41:01 PM UTC-5, Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>
> Hi Stephen, 
>
> Let me just re-iterate that this a quick 30 minute hack meant to serve as 
> a demo/proof of concept for an alternative way to implement a text 
> formatting toolbar. It is not meant for anyone to use. There are fair few 
> edge cases that cause issues, and no affordance for toolbar buttons that do 
> not depend on a selection.
>
> That said, thank you for bringing the issue with the preview to my 
> attention. As I never use the preview option I likely would not have 
> realized. This at least, should be an easy fix.
>
> Cheers,
> Saq
>
> On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 9:08:12 PM UTC+2, Stephen Kimmel wrote:
>>
>> I definitely like the idea of the pop-up editor toolbar though I do have 
>> a difficulty or two that I haven't worked my way through yet. Perhaps my 
>> biggest gripe is that the preview window changed position from beside the 
>> editing window to below and to the right of the editing window. 
>>
>> I'm working with FF but I've seen the same effect using Chrome and Brave 
>> as well.
>>
>> Stephen
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 2:58:06 AM UTC-5, Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>>>
>>> When early morning conference calls run too long, you get demos. 
>>> Here is a very quick and rough proof of concept of an alternative 
>>> approach to the editor toolbar:
>>>
>>> [image: float-menu.png]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Edit a tiddler, and select some text to make the toolbar appear:
>>>
>>> https://saqimtiaz.github.io/sq-tw/floating-menu.html
>>>
>>> Caveats:
>>> - Not all buttons are related to selections and some would need to be 
>>> available without a selection.
>>> - Probably a fair few other things, haven't tested it beyond selecting 
>>> some text and triggering a button.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Saq
>>>
>>> PS: I think "demo" (or "POC" / proof of concept) and "UI" tags would be 
>>> handy for posts.
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: [ Demo ] : floating editor toolbar

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

I definitely like the idea of the pop-up editor toolbar though I do have a 
difficulty or two that I haven't worked my way through yet. Perhaps my 
biggest gripe is that the preview window changed position from beside the 
editing window to below and to the right of the editing window. 

I'm working with FF but I've seen the same effect using Chrome and Brave as 
well.

Stephen

On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 2:58:06 AM UTC-5, Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>
> When early morning conference calls run too long, you get demos. 
> Here is a very quick and rough proof of concept of an alternative approach 
> to the editor toolbar:
>
> [image: float-menu.png]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Edit a tiddler, and select some text to make the toolbar appear:
>
> https://saqimtiaz.github.io/sq-tw/floating-menu.html
>
> Caveats:
> - Not all buttons are related to selections and some would need to be 
> available without a selection.
> - Probably a fair few other things, haven't tested it beyond selecting 
> some text and triggering a button.
>
> Cheers,
> Saq
>
> PS: I think "demo" (or "POC" / proof of concept) and "UI" tags would be 
> handy for posts.
>

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[tw5] Re: Filter/Search problem

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

The tilde (~) operator was what I was missing. Thanks.

On Thursday, December 12, 2019 at 10:08:14 PM UTC-6, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Here's my version:
>
> <$list filter="[search{possearch}!search{negsearch}] ~[search{possearch}] 
> -[[possearch]] -$:/HistoryList">
><>
> 
>
> I changed $:/temp/possearch and $:/temp/negsearch for my research. I'm 
> sure you'll see how to change them back. Because the possearch term will 
> always contain the thing to be searched, it needed to be subtracted. Same 
> for the HistoryList. 
>
> This worked in my test, including when negsearch was not present.
>
> HTH
>
> On Thursday, December 12, 2019 at 11:01:16 AM UTC-8, Stephen Kimmel wrote:
>>
>> I want to combine a pair of search operators within a single filter where 
>> one will be positive and the other negative. For example, I might want a 
>> list of all the tiddlers that contain the word "Mark" but exclude all the 
>> tiddlers that contain the word "temple." The solution I suspect would 
>> involve an expression that looks something like 
>>
>> [search[Mark]!search[Temple]] 
>>
>> but, of course, I want to use variables in the expression. So what I have 
>> at the moment has an expression that looks like this:
>>
>> search{$:/temp/possearch}!search{$:/temp/negsearch}
>>
>> The problem I'm having occurs when $:/temp/negsearch is either empty or 
>> doesn't exist. In that set of circumstances, I get no matches. I would like 
>> the search to act as though it were 
>>
>> search{$:/temp/possearch} 
>>
>> or 
>>
>> search{$:/temp/possearch}!search[xyz123]
>>
>> but I can't figure out how to do that.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Filter/Search problem

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

Apparently clarity is not my strong suit.

Yes. Both your and Eric's solutions work fine when $:/temp/possearch 
contains "Mark" and $:/temp/negsearch contains "Temple." I get a list of 
tiddlers.

Now go to the next step. What happens with your solution when 
$:/temp/possearch contains "Matthew" and $:/temp/negsearch is empty? Using [
search] -[search] I get nothing at all. How do I fix 
that?

On Thursday, December 12, 2019 at 9:02:28 PM UTC-6, TonyM wrote:
>
> Stephan
>
> {tiddlername} in filters or {{tiddlername}} in wiki text are not 
> variables, they are transclusions. We use  in filters and 
> <> in wiki text
>
> If you choose to use transclusions the thing you are transcluding needs to 
> contain the value you want used.
>
> Given Erics guidance the simple form is
> [search[Mark]] -[search[Temple]]
>
> Search defaults to tags, text and title if *field list*:  is blank
>
> So If I read your example $:/temp/possearch should contain "Mark" and 
> $:/temp/negsearch 
> should contain "Temple".
>
> Then the filter
> [search{$:/temp/possearch}] -[search{$:/temp/negsearch}]
> should work.,
>
> You could use the edit-text widget to let users enter the value, or even a 
> select widget if you already can search for and identify possible values.
>
> Another way to do this is use variables created from transclusions
> \define posssearch() {{$:/temp/possearch}}
> \define negsearch() {{$:/temp/negsearch}}}
>
> then use the filter
> [search] -[search]
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Friday, December 13, 2019 at 6:01:16 AM UTC+11, Stephen Kimmel wrote:
>>
>> I want to combine a pair of search operators within a single filter where 
>> one will be positive and the other negative. For example, I might want a 
>> list of all the tiddlers that contain the word "Mark" but exclude all the 
>> tiddlers that contain the word "temple." The solution I suspect would 
>> involve an expression that looks something like 
>>
>> [search[Mark]!search[Temple]] 
>>
>> but, of course, I want to use variables in the expression. So what I have 
>> at the moment has an expression that looks like this:
>>
>> search{$:/temp/possearch}!search{$:/temp/negsearch}
>>
>> The problem I'm having occurs when $:/temp/negsearch is either empty or 
>> doesn't exist. In that set of circumstances, I get no matches. I would like 
>> the search to act as though it were 
>>
>> search{$:/temp/possearch} 
>>
>> or 
>>
>> search{$:/temp/possearch}!search[xyz123]
>>
>> but I can't figure out how to do that.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Filter/Search problem

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

Unfortunately, if $:/temp/negsearch doesn't exist or the text field is 
blank, then this gives me nothing at all.  That's the problem I'm trying to 
avoid. I've tried with a "missing" operator and an "else" operator and that 
doesn't seem to work either.



On Thursday, December 12, 2019 at 1:29:14 PM UTC-6, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> If I understand your goal correctly, you want to get one list that matches 
> a certain filter... and then remove some of the items that match another 
> filter.
>
> To do that, use separate filter "runs", where the second filter has a 
> leading "-" (minus), like this:
>
> <$list filter="[search{$:/temp/possearch}] -[search{$:/temp/negsearch}]">
>... stuff here ...
> 
>
> enjoy,
> -e
>
>

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[tw5] Filter/Search problem

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

I want to combine a pair of search operators within a single filter where 
one will be positive and the other negative. For example, I might want a 
list of all the tiddlers that contain the word "Mark" but exclude all the 
tiddlers that contain the word "temple." The solution I suspect would 
involve an expression that looks something like 

[search[Mark]!search[Temple]] 

but, of course, I want to use variables in the expression. So what I have 
at the moment has an expression that looks like this:

search{$:/temp/possearch}!search{$:/temp/negsearch}

The problem I'm having occurs when $:/temp/negsearch is either empty or 
doesn't exist. In that set of circumstances, I get no matches. I would like 
the search to act as though it were 

search{$:/temp/possearch} 

or 

search{$:/temp/possearch}!search[xyz123]

but I can't figure out how to do that.

Any ideas?

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[tw5] Re: Does TW5-searchNreplace plugin not work anymore?

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

I'm working with 5.1.21 and my Find and Replace appears to be working as 
expected for me. There is an odd error that seems to be adding text to the 
end of the tiddler and I'm going to start work on correcting that. 

Surya. Could you put a wiki up on tiddlyspot or send one to me directly 
that shows the problem you are having? That would be a big help in figuring 
out how to fix it.

Stephen

On Thursday, October 17, 2019 at 1:38:12 PM UTC-5, Surya wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> the $:/plugins/sk/FindReplace from http://skplugins.tiddlyspot.com/ also 
> doesn't work anymore on. (It does the job only sometimes and then only one 
> time).
>
>
>
> On Thursday, October 17, 2019 at 8:27:22 PM UTC+2, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> Ciao Birthe
>>
>> I forwarded your message to Danielo because I'm not sure he reads here 
>> much.
>>
>> His tool was excellent. In frirst instance he may want to update it for 
>> whatever is causing your recent issue.
>>
>> Best wishes
>> J
>>
>> On Thursday, 17 October 2019 08:59:55 UTC+2, Birthe C wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I have been a heavy user of TW5-searchNreplace plugin by Danielo 
>>> Rodriguez http://danielorodriguez.com/TW5-searchNreplace/ Now I find 
>>> that upgrading my wikies, it does not work anymore?
>>> Anyone know of a solution?
>>>
>>> Birthe
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Minor bug in the new version (perhaps earlier) dealing with dictionary tiddlers

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

I use a dictionary tiddlers to store, among other things, colors in the hex 
format. Things like 

alt-text: #ee82fd
highlight: #80

In the earlier versions I could that with a statement like

@@background-color:{{$:/palettes/Editor##highlight}};Text to be highlighted 
@@

and it would work correctly. The latest version stopped working. When I 
enter

{{$:/palettes/Editor##highlight}}

instead of getting #80, I now get something like

A. 80

It appears that it parsing it as a bullet item. Is there an easy 
work-around for that?

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[tw5] audio file name from a field

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

I'm working on a variation of Wim Moermans Flashcards to Go routine but I 
want to add audio from an external directory to the individual flashcards. 
What I have, at the moment, is a statement like the one below in each 
flashcard tiddler. 



I now have hundreds of these lines in my wiki where the only variation is 
the specific file name, xxx. What I like to do is put the filename, xxx, in 
a field and then have a single macro that would use that filename and 
create the equivalent. This ought to be simple but so far everything I've 
tried has failed. 

Can someone point me in the right direction?

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[tw] Re: Accessing a dictionary entry from a list

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

Many thanks.

Sure enough that's what I needed and as I expected it was simple enough. 
The $(name)$ was the combination I hadn't tried. Perhaps it isn't the best 
documented aspect of Tiddlywiki.

Again, thanks.

Stephen

On Wednesday, March 7, 2018 at 2:20:42 PM UTC-6, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Whenever you want to concatenate something, like the result of a variable 
> and a tiddler name, think of macros -- that's mainly what they do. This 
> script seems to work:
>
> \define price() {{pricetiddler##$(stock)$}} 
> <$list filter="[tag[computer]sort[title]]" variable="stock">
> <> price = $<>
>
> 
>
> HTH
> -- Mark
>
> On Wednesday, March 7, 2018 at 9:53:31 AM UTC-8, Stephen Kimmel wrote:
>>
>> Per my usual, I'm fairly certain that this is easy... I just can't figure 
>> it out.
>>
>> I have a lot of tiddlers named with the stock symbol. The tiddler for 
>> Ford is named F, for example. while the tiddler for Disney is named DIS. I 
>> want to create a data/dictionary tiddler called pricetiddler that will have 
>> the stock marker tickers symbols and the prices. So the data tiddler might 
>> look like :
>>
>> APPL:175.07
>>>
>>> DIS:103.13
>>>
>>> F:10.51
>>>
>>> MSFT:92.87
>>>
>>
>> I want this in a dictionary tiddler so I can change all the numbers in 
>> one shot rather than changing a field in each of the tiddlers individually. 
>> Finally I want to create lists using something like
>>
>>  <$list filter="[tag[computer]sort[title]]" variable="stock"> 
>>> <> price = ${{pricetiddler##<>}}
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>
>> and create a list like:
>>
>> APPL price = $175.07
>>> MSFT price = $92.87
>>>
>>
>> So far, no combination of symbols has given me what I want. Can someone 
>> tell me what I'm missing?
>>
>

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[tw] Accessing a dictionary entry from a list

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Per my usual, I'm fairly certain that this is easy... I just can't figure 
it out.

I have a lot of tiddlers named with the stock symbol. The tiddler for Ford 
is named F, for example. while the tiddler for Disney is named DIS. I want 
to create a data/dictionary tiddler called pricetiddler that will have the 
stock marker tickers symbols and the prices. So the data tiddler might look 
like :

APPL:175.07
>
> DIS:103.13
>
> F:10.51
>
> MSFT:92.87
>

I want this in a dictionary tiddler so I can change all the numbers in one 
shot rather than changing a field in each of the tiddlers individually. 
Finally I want to create lists using something like

 <$list filter="[tag[computer]sort[title]]" variable="stock"> 
> <> price = ${{pricetiddler##<>}}
>
> 
>

and create a list like:

APPL price = $175.07
> MSFT price = $92.87
>

So far, no combination of symbols has given me what I want. Can someone 
tell me what I'm missing?

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[tw] Modifying TiddlyDesktop

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The Firefox Apocalypse (well done whoever dreamed up that phrase) has 
prompted me to start looking at TiddlyDesktop more closely. One thing that 
isn't clear at all is how to modify it. I know. I know. There's the help 
file but I didn't find it very helpful. 

So, as a start, let me get very specific. Suppose I wanted to get rid of 
the "Add a TiddlyWiki Folder" button. How would I do that? 

Or consider the "advanced" button. As close as I can tell, the only thing 
that does is display a "reveal backups" button. How would I change the 
"advanced" button to the "reveal backups" button. 

Or change the colors? 

Or change the order in which the tiddlers are listed (which appears to be 
alphabetical)?

Stephen

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[tw] External Images from local hard disk

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I know this has been discussed ad nauseum but I can't make it work for me. 
Can someone explain it to me, preferably in English and not rocketese, so I 
can understand it. I'm working in Firefox 55.0.3, on Windows 7.0, using 
Tiddlywiki 5.1.14. And I'm specifically working on parallax tiddlers. I 
have that working pretty well when using internal jpgS. I have gotten it to 
work with image files that reside on the hard disk in the root directory 
but I don't want to clutter that directory more than necessary.

The image I want to use is inori.jpg and it is located in 
C:/Images/Backgrounds/inori.jpg. 

I've trying to create an image tiddler of type image/jpeg and added a 
source field. My first try was to enter 
file:///C:/Images/Backgrounds/inori.jpg in the source field since that 
worked with the browser itself and since something similar seems to work 
with Motovun Jack.jpg... but I get nothing. I've tried about every 
combination of forward slashes and back slashes I can come up with and 
nothing happens. I would try using a _canonical_uri if I had first clue 
what the appropriate entry would be in this case. 

And this next part ... perhaps only Jeremy can answer this one... When I do 
figure out how to get my image into a wiki, will the datauri macro work on 
it?

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[tw] Re: Challenge: Table consisting of tiddlers

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Looking at your challenge again, I stumbled into what I'll refer to as the 
FlexBox solution. This may not be quite what you were looking for but you 
may find it interesting.

The listing of the tiddlers is a filtered list displaying a link to the 
individual tiddlers and a display of the tiddler itself using a template. 
What makes it look like a table is the styling. The flex-container sets the 
table to the full width allowed in the tiddler area and wraps the listing 
to the next line. The flex-item controls the basic dimensions of the 
tiddler display while the overflow:hidden limits the tiddler display to a 
thumbnail of the tiddler. I threw on the outset border style just to be 
cute. The flex-item:hover causes the thumbnail to expand to a larger 
version with the overflow set to auto so that the entire tiddler can be 
viewed.

 
.flex-container {
display: -webkit-flex;
display: flex;
width: 100%;
background-color: <>;
-webkit-flex-wrap: wrap;
flex-wrap: wrap;
}

.flex-item {
width: 150px;
height: 200px;
margin: 10px;
overflow:hidden;
padding: 5px;
border-style: outset;
}

.flex-item:hover{background-color:black;
width: 300px;
height: 300px;
overflow:auto;
}



<$list filter="[tag[series]sort[title]limit[50]]">

<$link>
<$view field="title"}}/>

{{||Fields}}





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[tw] Re: Presenting: GRAPHS - pies, bars, scatter and whatever turns you on

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That, pretty much, takes care of my issue. Now I'm off and running toward 
looking at it.

Not to be real picky about this... but I noticed that on the install sheet 
you added likert but lost line. And for what it is worth, x-axis and y-axis 
are also required to get the Demo-Line to work properly. You might consider 
adding the x-axis and y-axis items to the Line tag as well.

Stephen

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[tw] Re: Presenting: GRAPHS - pies, bars, scatter and whatever turns you on

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Probably I am just exceptionally dense, but I'm having problems with this.

I imported everything listed on the install tiddler, and for good measure 
everything tagged demo, demoData, sample and sample2. Demp Pie gives me two 
large colored circles. Demo Line gives me graph axis but no graph. Demo 
Mapper gives me the text but no graphs. etc. etc. etc. It looks to me as 
though there is some critical tiddlers that weren't included in the ones 
mentioned on the install tiddler, but I can't figure out which ones they 
are.

So... What am I missing here?

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[tw] Wikify widget examples

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

I'll admit that I'm late to the party and can be exceptionally dense at 
times but I don't understand the $wikify widget. I read the tiddler. It 
parses some text, renders it and returns it as a variable which is 
available inside the widget depending on the type selected which defaults 
to an option which isn't one of the listed choices. What? What? While there 
are examples in the full Tiddlywiki, there are no examples for the $wikify 
widget and, as close as I can tell, Tiddlywiki almost never uses it either.

Can someone point me some examples that are simple enough for a borderline 
moron like me to understand? Jeremy, could we get an example or two in the 
next version?

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[tw] Re: TW5 version of TWc DailyTasks plugin?

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Wen-Ming,

I am no expert in Twc but I have observed the behavior you've described. It 
seems that when using the X button to delete the task, the program gets the 
name wrong. Note that the pop-up asking you to confirm that you want to 
delete the tiddler, it only gives the first word of the name.

My work-around would be to not use the X button but the click on the name 
of the task and then delete it directly.

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[tw] Re: TW5 version of TWc DailyTasks plugin?

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You mentioned sorting the list of dates. The problem with sorting dates is 
in the formatting. A date in the MM/DD/YY format won't sort properly but 
one in the YY/0MM/0DD format will. The zero's [0] are necessary so that the 
date right after July 1, 2017 is July 2, 2017 and not July 10, 2017. In 
first format this would be 7/1/17, 7/2/17 and 7/10/17 which would sort 
7/1/17, 7/10/17, 7/2/17. In YY/0MM/0DD format this becomes 17/07/01, 
17/07/02 and 17/07/10. 

Changing the line building darray2 to create entries in that format should 
eliminate the need to click the buttons in order. 

The barray preserves the history of whether you did the task each of the 
last 10 days and the routine creates the dates that go with each of those 
days. A bigger barray would preserve the data going further back. As we 
create a darray2, we could skip the days when the task wasn't done and the 
resulting array would be just your datestamps in order. Assuming we don't 
try to preserve this data back thousands of days, it should be very quick. 
Of course, you would want to limit the entries you display to the last ten 
or so since a screen full of hundreds of red and yellow squares might not 
be that useful. But a month's worth, especially if it is arranged in 
calendar format, might be useful. 

Let's push this one step further. After you've used the tool for several 
months, you could have a list of dates that is hundreds of entries long. 
Now what do you do with it? I can see looking at the record for a longer 
time frame than ten days. The question "How well did I do with this task 
over the last month?" seems valid and possibly useful.I can also see value 
to preserving the data for some future date when you will think up some 
future use for it. Or perhaps a graph of how well I did of doing my daily 
task over the last several weeks, months, whatever. The data we store and 
how we store it will vary depending on what we want to do with it.

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[tw] Re: TW5 version of TWc DailyTasks plugin?

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On Friday, June 16, 2017 at 11:10:44 PM UTC-5, cmari wrote:
>
> Wow, that is terrific, thank you so much! I will use this daily. 
> I especially appreciate the really clear comments. That made it easy for 
> me to add a field that takes advantage of the tooltip and captures the 
> running list of dates.
> cmari
>
> You are most welcome. It was my pleasure to work on it. 

I am open to further modificatons so I would like to see the changes you 
made and hear any ideas for changes you'd like to see made.

Stephen

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[tw] Re: TW5 version of TWc DailyTasks plugin?

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That was an interesting challenge. The result of my effort is located at 
http://dailytasksk.tiddlyspot.com/ 

The results are less than perfect but similar enough to the original that I 
don't think you'll have any problem using it. With any luck, it will be 
close enough to what you want to carry you the rest of the way.

Stephen

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[tw] Re: Previous Versions of TiddlyWiki

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That's what I needed. I had gone to the github page but how to get to 
releases wasn't obvious to me. We might consider putting a link to that on 
the release notes in Tiddlywiki.

Thanks, Mark.

On Friday, June 2, 2017 at 11:56:37 AM UTC-5, Mark S. wrote:
>
> P.S. Releases at https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/releases
>
>
>

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[tw] Previous Versions of TiddlyWiki

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After I was moving my editable table routine to an older wiki, I discovered 
that it didn't work. Apparently I incorporated something that was unique to 
5.14. Unfortunately, I don't have any full versions of 5.13 or earlier. Is 
there a repository of older versions somewhere?

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[tw] Re: Calculate date difference (date diff)

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On Thursday, June 1, 2017 at 12:23:53 PM UTC-5, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:
>
>
> Thanks for providing such macro. However, I wanted to avoid the usage of 
> javascript macros, and I wanted to create a pure tiddlywiki version.
> I really think that tiddlywiki, being advertised as something you can use 
> as a diary, having journal facilities and that stuff, should provide better 
> tools for date management.
>
> Finally I made a very simple macro that fits my needs. However, I'm a bit 
> disappointed with this situation.
>
> In any case, I save your macro for future reference.
> Regards
>

Ah. I misread your post. My mistake. 

I would be interested in seeing your macro when you're ready to share it.

Stephen 

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[tw] Re: Calculate date difference (date diff)

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>
>
> It is created using the NOW macro. It does not matter how it looks like, 
> as long as it is easy to calculate the time diff in minutes between them.
> I wanted to avoid creating a custom JS macro, but if it is the only way... 
>

Danielo,

Perhaps something like this would serve as a starting place for what you 
want...

(function(){
/*\
 Calculates the difference between two dates

<>

\*/

exports.name = "datediff";

exports.params = [
{ name: "date1" }, 
{ name: "date2"}, 
{ name: "units"},
];

/*
Run the macro
*/

exports.run = function(date1,date2,units) {

// If no date supplied use current date
if (date2=="") {
var d2=new Date();
var date2 = d2.toLocaleDateString();
}
if (date1==""){
var d1=new Date(5/1/1984);
}

var d1 = new Date(date1);
var d2 = new Date(date2);

switch(units){
case "weeks":
var t2 = d2.getTime();
var t1 = d1.getTime();

result = Math.floor(parseFloat((t2-t1)/(24*3600*1000*7))*100)/100+" weeks";
break;
case "minutes":
var t2 = d2.getTime();
var t1 = d1.getTime();
result = parseInt((t2-t1)/(60*1000)) + " minutes";

break;
case "months":
var d1Y = d1.getFullYear();
var d2Y = d2.getFullYear();
var d1M = d1.getMonth();
var d2M = d2.getMonth();
var d1D = d1.getDate();
var d2D = d1.getDate();

result =Math.floor(((d2M+12*d2Y+d2D/30)-(d1M+12*d1Y-d1D/30))*100)/100 + " 
months";
break;
case "years":
var d1Y = d1.getFullYear();
var d2Y = d2.getFullYear();
var d1M = d1.getMonth();
var d2M = d2.getMonth();
var d1D = d1.getDate();
var d2D = d1.getDate();

result =Math.floor(((d2M/12+d2Y+d2D/365)-(d1M/12+d1Y-d1D/365))*100)/100 + " 
years";

// result=parseFloat(d2.getFullYear()-d1.getFullYear()) + " years";
break;
default:
var t2 = d2.getTime();
var t1 = d1.getTime();
result = parseInt((t2-t1)/(24*3600*1000)) + " days";
}

return result;
};

})();


 

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[tw] Calculating table row and column values in TiddlyWiki

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One of the commenters on my inline editable table routine suggested that it 
would be helpful if the routine could sum the columns. I decided that would 
be a helpful thing. Eric has a routine that does that for TiddlyWiki 
Classic but, unfortunately, it does seem to work with TW5. So I reworked 
and extended it myself. Eric will undoubtedly recognize a good amount of 
his code and documentation. No doubt, he could write my additions more 
elegantly than I have.

In addition to doing the sum, the count and the average of a column, I've 
added the minimum and maximum. I also created a separate routine to 
accomplish the same functions for rows. 

In Eric's routine you used  
<>

while in mine,
<>
or
<>

where the tableID refers to either an HTML table such as 
...

or an HTML div such as 
...

that contains a wikitext table. I couldn't figure out a better way of 
limiting the function to the table which contains it. If someone has a 
better approach, I'd love to hear it. 

Table cells may contain just about anything though some, such as anchors, 
will always be interpreted as text. When the cell contains an input box, 
the row and column calculations don't automatically update. I don't have a 
way I really like to force TW to update a displayed tiddler so I'm open to 
suggestions about that as well.

The routines and some examples are located at 
http://tablecalcs.tiddlyspot.com/

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[tw] Re: My attempt at an editable table

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

This one may be heading in the direction you are looking for. It includes a 
modified version of Eruc Shulman's column calculation routine that he wrote 
for tiddlywiki classic. It is still klunky and should be used with caution 
but it is a "proof of concept" version at this point. Still it may be 
useful.

http://my-table.tiddlyspot.com/

On Wednesday, May 3, 2017 at 6:50:20 AM UTC-5, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> I want to come back to the original post and demo.
>
> I think its beautiful. 
>
> I know its partly taking forward what others have done before but its 
> looking very marketable in this presentation. A really good integration. 
> Its taken a lot on board and it works well even as is.
>
> The SORTING is very interesting as it allows for values OUTSIDE the table 
> itself. I know no other HTML table like that. Its a real new for me.
>
> The one thing it could do with (but I'm not sure its anyway possible) is 
> the ability to SUM columns. Then it would do all basic math I'd ever need 
> for basic accounts. I have looked at a spreadsheet add-on for TW that does 
> that. Its over complex & heavy on the JavaScript.
>
> Just perceptions
> Josiah  
>
>

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[tw] Re: Links Problem

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

True, though in the past at least that meant I had to either tolerate a 
bunch of ugly tildes or I had to hunt them down and delete them manually. 
Its a minor price to pay for TiddlyWiki but that doesn't stop it from 
irritating me. I'm equally positive there are users who can't imagine 
TiddlyWiki without CamelCase. Different strokes for different folks.

On Tuesday, May 2, 2017 at 8:51:59 PM UTC-5, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, May 2, 2017 at 6:33:27 PM UTC-7, Stephen Kimmel wrote:
>>
>> I love TiddlyWiki and use it almost constantly but there is one thing I 
>> absolutely hate and that is CamelCase. I work with enough things that are 
>> automatically CamelCase... like about 90% of Scottish names and chemicals 
>> and now Japanese anime... that I spend far more time cancelling out the 
>> CamelCase than it saves me. 
>>
>
> You can completely disable camel case linking for the entire document from 
> the $:/ControlPanel "settings" tab:
>
> http://tiddlywiki.com/#%24%3A%2FControlPanel
>
> enjoy,
> -e
>
>

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[tw] Re: Links Problem

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

Thanks Mat.

Sometimes all you have to do is ask the question and the answer comes to 
you. About the time you were posting your response, I came up with the 
Camelcase answer myself... though the improperly colored like I get with 
the {{!!sites}} still baffles me. 

I love TiddlyWiki and use it almost constantly but there is one thing I 
absolutely hate and that is CamelCase. I work with enough things that are 
automatically CamelCase... like about 90% of Scottish names and chemicals 
and now Japanese anime... that I spend far more time cancelling out the 
CamelCase than it saves me. 

On Tuesday, May 2, 2017 at 4:58:47 PM UTC-5, Mat wrote:
>
> Ref
>
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/1880
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw] Re: Links Problem

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

Sorry. Forgot the link: http://link-demo.tiddlyspot.com/

On Tuesday, May 2, 2017 at 4:20:27 PM UTC-5, Stephen Kimmel wrote:
>
> I'm having a problem with TiddlyWilki rendering links inconsistently. 
>
> I've uploaded an example which using this bit of code, doesn't appear to 
> be rendering links in columns 2 and 3 consistently. 
> 
> TitleA href={!!sites}Link
> <$list filter=[tag[series]]>
> 
> <$link to={{!!title}}><$view field="title"/> 
>  ="_blank">{{!!title}} 
>  {{!!sites}}
> 
> 
> 
>
>
> The third column appear to give actual links for everything. In Firefox, 
> several of them are rendered in the colour typical of internal links while 
> others are rendered in red. In 
> Chrome, none of are rendered in red. 
>
> The second column is particularly irritating since two of the entries are 
> rendered and coloured as internal links while all the others are rendered as 
> links to external web-sites.
>
> I assume this is because of something I've done incorrectly, but for the life 
> of me I can't figure out what I've done or why Tiddlywiki renders some of 
> them correctly but not other.
>
> Can someone tell me what is happening?
>
>
>
>

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[tw] Links Problem

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

I'm having a problem with TiddlyWilki rendering links inconsistently. 

I've uploaded an example which using this bit of code, doesn't appear to be 
rendering links in columns 2 and 3 consistently. 

TitleA href={!!sites}Link
<$list filter=[tag[series]]>

<$link to={{!!title}}><$view field="title"/> 
{{!!title}} 
 {{!!sites}}





The third column appear to give actual links for everything. In Firefox, 
several of them are rendered in the colour typical of internal links while 
others are rendered in red. In 
Chrome, none of are rendered in red. 

The second column is particularly irritating since two of the entries are 
rendered and coloured as internal links while all the others are rendered as 
links to external web-sites.

I assume this is because of something I've done incorrectly, but for the life 
of me I can't figure out what I've done or why Tiddlywiki renders some of them 
correctly but not other.

Can someone tell me what is happening?



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[tw] Re: My attempt at an editable table

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

Thanks, Eric.

That's what I needed. And I feel a good less like a moron for not figuring 
that out on my own. 

Jeremy might want to consider expanding the explanation to clarify the 
various syntax at work here.

Stephen

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[tw] Re: My attempt at an editable table

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

Let me pose my question more directly. I assume the answer is obvious to 
the more experienced hands. 

The following code is not working correctly and I don't understand why. I 
would like the macro FieldChoice to return a select widget with a list of 
captions taken from the dictionary tiddler FieldsData. 
I get the Select that works but all the captions match the one for the 
default entry in FieldThing. The problem appears to be passing the 
parameter fieldName from FieldChoice to FieldThing. The code below is just 
one of my many failed attempts.

\define FieldChoice(name:"title")
<$select field="field1" default='title'>
none
<$set name="currentTiddler" value="FieldsData">
<$list filter="[all[current]indexes[]]" variable="fieldName">
>><>




\end

\define FieldThing(name:"current_address")
{{FieldsData##$name$}}
\end

<>

Can someone tell me what I've done wrong and how to do this correctly?

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[tw] My attempt at an editable table

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

I have been a big fan of the editable tables since Danielo first introduced 
his. I have both his routine and Jed Carty gave us his RowTable and Column 
Table macros they have been part of my standard package. But like 90% of 
the folks in this group, I can't leave well enough alone, so I developed my 
own version of an online editable table. 

I have two reasons for posting this: 1) The nature of the group is such 
that if you come up with something potentially useful to someone else, you 
share it. Therefore... and 2) Although it is functional, it is still a bit 
clunky. I still have problems with in tiddler macros and this one has a 
highly repetitive bit of code that practically screams out to be a macro. I 
am hoping that someone will take a look at what I've done and tell me what 
I'm missing. And if someone has a more elegant way to do this, I would love 
to see their answer.

The link is http://my-table.tiddlyspot.com/

In general, each of the column headings is a select-widget that will allow 
you to pick any field for any of the columns other than the first. The 
column headings are not the actual field names but captions so they can be 
more explanatory and less arcane. Any field in the main body of the table 
is actually an edit-text widget linked to the appropriate tiddler. Clicking 
on the entry will start editing it. It has a sort and filter section above 
which uses the same list of fields as the column headings. This means that 
you can filter or sort by any of the fields whether they are shown on the 
table or not. I've styled the table so that the edit-text boxes aren't 
obviously edit boxes and the column headings aren't obviously selects.

Thanks ahead of time for any suggestions.

Stephen 


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[tw] Re: TiddlyFox seemed to stop working

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

This happened to me as well and I don't see anyway for it to happen unless 
Firefox automatically updated the add-ins. I count automatic updates that 
change how the add-in works without notification as being a big mistake. 

I seem to be constantly telling the thing that I want to enable saving for 
the wiki even though I haven't knowingly updated anything. Does clearing 
the cache, cookies, etc, also reset whether TiddlyFox has saving enabled? 
If so, is there some way to change that behaviour?

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] How Does One Add a Button to the Text Editor in the editTemplate?

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On Friday, April 7, 2017 at 2:00:09 PM UTC-5, Pit.W. wrote:
>
> Not that I know how these buttons work, but use them im many TW files 
> -standalone and node.js-
>
> They work fine, I am happy...  but one thing to be aware of: it seems that 
> something in these many buttons disables the use of  Alt-Ctrl-Q. This is a 
> bit painful, since this is, on a German keyboard, the "@". But maybe am 
> mistaken and it is caused by something else
>
>
> But: #SK: great work, many fantasic functionalities, dramatic impovement 
> of productivity, great contribution.  
>
>
> THANK YOU!
>
>
> Pit
>

I use a number of Ctrl-Alt-whatever key combinations though I don't recall 
using Ctrl-Alt-Q. If you use the advanced search on the system tiddlers 
looking for ctrl-alt-q, it should pop up immediately if it is one of mine. 
If it doesn't, then it is probably something else.

And thanks for the compliment.

>
>
> Am 2017-04-07 um 20:23 schrieb 'Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki:
>
> Without getting into the specifics, I created several buttons to be added 
> to the editor toolbar including one that does the highlighting. You'll find 
> them at http://skplugins.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> I make no claims that these are elegantly done but they do work and that 
> will give you a starting point.
>
> On Friday, April 7, 2017 at 12:10:47 PM UTC-5, Paul Boughner wrote: 
>>
>> Whats the process for adding a button to apply a highlight? I know my way 
>> around TW5 pretty well, so I can understand a quick list of:
>>
>>1. add a tiddler and tag it with...
>>2. write a macro to do this...
>>3. edit this toolbar to include... 
>>
>>
>>
>> I am currently using the stamp button to insert "@@ hl.ToDo" at the head, 
>> and "@@" to close it.
>>
>>  @@ hl.ToDo -text- @@
>>
>> I use this to tag things in journals and then use a list to search for 
>> that particular highlight. Which automagically gives me lists of ToDo, 
>> research, add to quiz, etc.
>>
>> I would like to add a highlight button like the stamp button to choose 
>> the highlight.
>>
>> Just cloning the stamp button would be great as long as it doesn't get 
>> overwritten in the next update.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
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[tw] Re: [TW5] How Does One Add a Button to the Text Editor in the editTemplate?

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

Without getting into the specifics, I created several buttons to be added 
to the editor toolbar including one that does the highlighting. You'll find 
them at http://skplugins.tiddlyspot.com/

I make no claims that these are elegantly done but they do work and that 
will give you a starting point.

On Friday, April 7, 2017 at 12:10:47 PM UTC-5, Paul Boughner wrote:
>
> Whats the process for adding a button to apply a highlight? I know my way 
> around TW5 pretty well, so I can understand a quick list of:
>
>1. add a tiddler and tag it with...
>2. write a macro to do this...
>3. edit this toolbar to include...
>
>
>
> I am currently using the stamp button to insert "@@ hl.ToDo" at the head, 
> and "@@" to close it.
>
>  @@ hl.ToDo -text- @@
>
> I use this to tag things in journals and then use a list to search for 
> that particular highlight. Which automagically gives me lists of ToDo, 
> research, add to quiz, etc.
>
> I would like to add a highlight button like the stamp button to choose the 
> highlight.
>
> Just cloning the stamp button would be great as long as it doesn't get 
> overwritten in the next update.
>
> Thanks
>

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[tw] Complex Filter Question

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

This seems like this ought to be easy but, so far, it has beaten me. 

I have a group of tiddlers that are tagged as "A" or "B" and are also 
tagged with one or more of "1", "2", "3" or "4". Depending on a group of 
checkboxes, I want a list with created using a filter that is the 
equivalent of

((tag[A] or tag[B]) and (tag[1] or tag[2] or tag[3] or tag[4])).

To be displayed in the list, the tiddler must have one of the A or B tags 
and at least one of the 1,2,3 or 4 tags. So far, everything I've tried 
gives me either gives me nothing at all or far too much. Can someone tell 
me how to structure that filter?

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Sorting Ascending and Descending

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Nudge nudge.


> now my head hurts and I am going to go lie down. I need to remember to add 
> this to my tables macros sometime.
>

I would very much like to see you make this modification.

And for what it is worth, I use your table macros routine all the time. 

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[tw] Extremely Close

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

I have always wanted the in-tiddler table of contents to jump to the 
appropriate heading when clicked and tough assured repeatedly that such 
behavior would be extremely difficult if not impossible that message never 
quite made it through my thick skull. Now I am extremely close to getting 
the behavior I want. There are still some rough edges and I secretly hope 
that someone, like Danielo perhaps, can help me push it over the top.

I've made a couple of key modifications since the version listed earlier in 
this thread. 

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/Tiddlywiki/toc$20single%7Csort:date/tiddlywiki/6zBxrj4nV34/NucvoBSuscYJ

I changed the ToC items to invisible buttons and added the message so that 
it would write the name of the selected heading to a data tiddler.

\define regex-feature-header() (^!+.*)(?gmi)

Table of Contents


<$list filter="[all[current]match:text]">

<$button class="tc-btn-invisible" >

{{!!title}}
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/sk/new-find" text={{!!title}} />





<$click/>


You'll note that I added `<$click>` as well. This goes to my modification 
of Danielo's ~DoubleClick to edit. In my version instead of invoking the 
editor, I use 

var lastfound=this.wiki.getTextReference('$:/sk/new-find');
 
lastfound = lastfound.replace(/!/gm, '');

var  strFound=self.find(lastfound);
  if (!strFound) {
   strFound=self.find(lastfound,0,1);
   while (self.find(lastfound,0,1)) continue;
}

Now, a single click on the Table of Contents item writes the heading to the 
data tiddler and a following double click jumps to that heading within the 
tiddler. So to jump to the first occurrence of a heading item, you have to 
click three times. I would rather just double click but there is a 
programming step I'm missing. And if you have two different headings with 
the same text, it will find the first one. To find the second one, you 
would have to go back to the ToC and double click the entry again. 

This is functional and extremely close to what I want though sub-optimal.  
I would rather have a simple double click accomplish everything and I would 
like a simple repeat search keyboard shortcut so I could avoid having to 
scroll to the top.  I would appreciate it if someone could suggest how I 
could further modify this.

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[tw] Re: Conversion file.xls and file.ods in tiddlywiki file

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

>
>
> I tried to find TabletoTidlers, but did not find. But I saw an example of 
> a wiki. Wow. It is likely that you could rip structure 
> http://www.livejournal.com there I have three blogs and would like to get 
> three tiddli file. Each blog posts about 2000 and I wanted to do everything 
> by hand.
>

You'll find all the plugins if you click on the gear icon in the sidebar 
that opens the control panel. The fifth tab in the control panel goes to 
the Plugin tab. There is a second row of tabs titled Plugins, Themes and 
Languages. Click on the one marked Plugins and you'll see a listing of all 
the plugins in the wiki. Well down the list is a plugin titled "Table to 
Tiddlers". Drag and drop that into your wiki.

Alternatively you can simply go to this link: 
http://skplugins.tiddlyspot.com/#Table%20to%20Tiddlers

About halfway down the tiddler, you'll find a link to the actual plugin:

Plugin Tiddler

$:/plugins/sk/TabletoTiddlers 



Drag and drop that into your wiki to import the tiddler. You'll have to 
save and reload your wiki to activate it. 



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[tw] Re: Help

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

Ahh. So the question is concerning filters and tying the check boxes to 
fields.

This bit of code creates a checkbox which sets two fields, status and 
datecompleted, of the selected task tiddlers. I used an invisible button 
because I wanted to change two fields. If I only wanted to change one 
field, I could have used the same code you used.

   <$button class="tc-btn-invisible" set="!!status" setTo="Done">
  <$action-setfield datecompleted=<>/>
  
   

Using a filter that looks something like this as part of your list:

<$list filter=[tag[task]has[modified]sort[title]field:status[Done]]>
<$link to={{!!title}}><$view field="title"/>


will give you a sorted list of the tiddlers which have the tag "task" and 
the field "status" with the value "Done".

On Wednesday, August 3, 2016 at 10:19:26 PM UTC-5, Sergio Rolim wrote:
>
> Olá a todos.
>
> Estou muito agradecido a todos pela sugestões que me esclareceram,  a 
> primeira intenção é somente aprender. Aprecio muito este sistema de tiddler.
> Onde não me expressei com clareza é a dificuldade que encontro em passar 
> as opções de uma lista para outra.
> ex: All itens --> para ToDo; quando finalizada em ToDo passar para Done ou 
> para Pendente.
>

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[tw] Re: Help

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

It looks like Sergio is seeing a formatting/styling issue here. He's gone 
to some lengths to style five boxes but they go beyond the limits of the 
tiddler. The Doing, Done and Footer boxes are covered up by the next 
tiddler. 

I think if someone could show him how to style his "ToDo" tab so that 
everything would be inside, it would be a step in the right direction.


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[tw] Re: Conversion file.xls and file.ods in tiddlywiki file

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

Sergey,

If you go to http://skplugins.tiddlyspot.com/ you'll find the preliminary 
version of the new plugin, TabletoTiddlers, under Experimental Plugins. 
I've included an example data table which I've derived from the example you 
gave. It's not an exact match but it should give you a pretty good idea of 
how it works. 

Note that although I've used this routine quite a bit, you should still 
consider it as experimental. Assume there are more bugs in it. Truth be 
told, that's part of why I'm letting you have it now. My hope is that 
you'll help me find the bugs so  I can fix them or at least offer 
suggestions to make it better.

Stephen

On Tuesday, August 2, 2016 at 2:26:52 PM UTC-5, Sergey Shishkin wrote:
>
> Stephen,
>
> I'm happy! I'll wait! This is cool!
>
> I found the service tiddliwki! 
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/tk91wqty552z6z1/designwrite.html?dl=0
> Now I have a JSON tiddler or CSV?.
>
> Example
>
> dl=0
> [
> {
> "title": "Test2.csv",
> "type": "text/plain",
> "text": 
> "Date,Place,Type,Name,Discription,F1,F2\r\n20161010,London,State,Tiddler,same 
> text,for field,for field\r\n20161010,Paris,State,Tiddler,same text,for 
> field,for field\r\n20161010,Berlin,State,Tiddler,same text,for field,for 
> field\r\n"
> }
> ]
>
>
> My tiddlers matching structure:
>
> The name became the name, description - text in tiddlers, date to the 
> date, place at place (as here 
> http://historydates.tiddlyspot.com/#historic%20question%20asked), type in 
> the type (abstract string), F1 (note external link!, but optional) field of 
> the tiddlers links and other field something else ...
>
> Once again, thanks for the comment! I will wait. I would quickly learn 
> tiddliwiki, but translation of documentation takes time. So I have these 
> questions. Although I think that such a thing would be very useful!
>
> With great respect
> Sergey
>
>
> вторник, 2 августа 2016 г., 20:19:30 UTC+2 пользователь Stephen Kimmel 
> написал:
>>
>>
>>

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[tw] Re: Conversion file.xls and file.ods in tiddlywiki file

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

Sergey,

I have one additional plugin that I have been working on that isn't quite 
ready yet. It will convert rows of a TiddlyWiki table into individual 
tiddlers. If that is where you're ultimately going, I'll put some 
additional effort into it so I can put it up more quickly.

On Tuesday, August 2, 2016 at 6:10:45 AM UTC-5, Sergey Shishkin wrote:
>
> Wow! I went to study. Thank you. As always, great answers.
>
> I spied on http://historydates.tiddlyspot.com. And I realized that I do 
> not understand how to do tiddlers with tables with dynamic entries 
> variables. It's about the tiddlers chronology (or journal).
>
> Sergey
>
> вторник, 2 августа 2016 г., 11:19:12 UTC+2 пользователь Birthe C написал:
>>
>> Have  you looked at http://skplugins.tiddlyspot.com/
>> The tablehelper might be what you are looking for.
>>
>>
>> Birthe
>>
>

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[tw] Re: My TiddlyWiki Math Project

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

That was beyond the scope of what I was doing with Mathcell when I wrote 
it. It's an interesting idea and I'll give it some thought. At this point, 
the extent Mathcell handles text operations is to add them together or 
simply reference them. 

On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 at 4:16:04 AM UTC-5, Ste Wilson wrote:
>
> IF OR AND & ELSE 
>
> One of the things I do use in excel is conditional statements in cells. 
> I've had a go putting this in a field with: 
> =@if(accel="?") text = "blah"
>
> Which hopefully means that if the field accel =? then return the text 
> blah. 
> My question then is, is this not working due to my appalling syntax or is 
> it beyond the scope of Mathcell? 
>
> My follow up question is can text be inserted depending on the value of a 
> field using a widget or macro? 
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, 23 March 2016 03:22:51 UTC, Stephen Kimmel wrote:
>>
>> My TiddlyWiki math project, which I'm calling Mathcell, has progressed 
>> far enough to actually be of some use to people. So I'm unleashing it on 
>> the unsuspecting public in hopes of getting some feedback and comments.
>>
>> A bit of background. About the only software I use more than TiddlyWiki 
>> is Microsoft Excel. Inspired by a programming effort that created a Tiny 
>> Excel-like app in plain vanilla javascript with no libraries and just 30 
>> lines of code, http://jsfiddle.net/ondras/hYfN3/, I set to work creating 
>> my own version. I succeeded and Mathcell (math in a cell) is the result. 
>> The essential tiddlers are about 3,000 bytes in total and there are three 
>> examples and two datatiddlers that total about another 5,000 bytes.
>>
>> In essence, you can enter a macrocall, <$macrocall $name="eval1" 
>> datatiddler="$:/sk/data" cell="a1"/> in any tiddler and create a Mathcell. 
>> In that Mathcell, you can enter formulas or javascript math functions and 
>> using a button toggle back and forth between the data entry form and the 
>> result. The routine can handle complex math operations, string 
>> concatenation and has circular reference protection. 
>>
>> This routine is no match for Excel or even some of the much bigger add-in 
>> spreadsheets, but if you need some very flexible mathematics in your wiki, 
>> this may suit your needs.
>>
>> You'll find Mathcell at http://mathcell.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
>>

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[tw] Re: What is the maximum file size for TW5 at acceptable performance

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That depends on your computer. 

I use several ranging from a Amazon Kindle Fire tablet to desktop that is a 
few years old. Nothing larger than about 4 mb will work acceptably with the 
tablet whereas the desktop starts to show signs of bogging down with the 
Bible Tiddlywikis which are about 11 mb with about 35,000 tiddlers. Certain 
operations such filtered lists are unacceptably slow on my desktop. Even if 
testing a tiddler for whether it meets filter criteria only takes a 
fraction of a second, when it has to do it 31000 times for a single list 
and depending on what is being displayed such as a recent list several 
times that, it will become noticeable. On a slower computer, it will become 
unacceptable. As Jed said, complex tiddlers will also slow the process down.

My desktop has never succeeded in importing the entire Bible wiki into the 
newer version of TiddlyWiki. I suspect that has to do with how TiddlyWiki 
handles imports. My guess is that it attempts to read the entire wiki into 
a temporary tiddler and then converts the selected tiddlers. If that's true 
then the amount of free ram would be the limitation.

In any case, I find the practical upper limit is in the range of 30,000 - 
40,000 tiddlers and somewhere in the 12 mb range.

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[tw] Re: Problem with list-before and toc-tabbed-internal-nav

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I figured it out. Even though the documentation doesn't explicitly say so, 
the toc macros do support a sort input. In my case I added a field called 
order which I populated with the correct numerical order for each book. 
Then I made my Contents tiddler say:

<$macrocall
 $name="toc-tabbed-internal-nav"
 tag="Book"
sort="nsort[order]"
 selectedTiddler="$:/temp/toc/selectedTiddler"
 unselectedText="Select a book in the table of contents. Click the arrow 
to expand a topic."
 missingText="Missing tiddler."
/>


And that did it. 

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[tw] Problem with list-before and toc-tabbed-internal-nav

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

Perhaps one of the clever folks here can explain to me why this doesn't 
work the way I expected.

I'm working on a wiki of the Old Testament books arranged in the classical 
Jewish order. In case you are unfamiliar with that, the books should appear 
in this order: 

Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy, Joshua, Judges, 1 Samuel, 
2 Samuel, 1 Kings, 2 Kings, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Hosea, Joel, Amos, 
Obadiah, Jonah, Micah, Nahum, Habakkuk, Zephaniah, Haggai, Zechariah, 
Malachi, Psalms, Proverbs, Job, Song of Songs, Ruth, Lamentations, 
Ecclesiastes, Esther, Daniel, Ezra, Nehemiah, I Chronicles, II Chronicles


I would like to set it up to read the sections using the 
toc-tabbed-internal-nav function. As close as I can tell, that function 
doesn't support a sort parameter so I am setting up a list using the field 
"list-before" in each of the 39 tiddlers.So the tiddler titled Genesis has 
a field list-before that contains Exodus, the tiddler Exodus has a 
list-before field that contains Leviticus, etc down through the tiddler I 
Chronicles which has a list-before field which contains II Chronicles. 


The current Tiddlywiki Prerelase 5.whatever gives this order for the 
tiddlers in toc-tabbed-internal-nav as:


II Chronicles,2 Samuel, 1 Kings, Judges, 1 Samuel, Song of Songs, Ruth, 
Lamentations, Ecclesiastes, Esther, Daniel, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Nehemiah, I 
Chronicles, 2 Kings, Isaiah, Hosea, Numbers, Deuteronomy, Joshua, Genesis, 
Exodus, Obadiah, Jonah, Micah, Ezra, Leviticus, Joel, Amos, Zechariah, 
Malachi, Psalms, Proverbs, Job, Zephaniah, Haggai, Nahum, Habakkuk


There are stretches that are in the right order but the only tiddler that 
doesn't appear in another tiddler's list-before field is near the middle of 
the order while the only tiddler with an empty list-before field is the 
first one on the list. There are several jumps where the tiddlers are in 
the wrong order. My II Chronicles did have an empty list-before field but 
when I deleted that field, 2 Samuel which does have an appropriate 
list-before field, goes to the front of the list. 


If I do a <$list filter="[tag[book]]"> I get the same order.


Something is going on that I don't understand and I'm hoping someone can 
explain it to me. Is this simply too long a group for Tiddlywiki 5 to 
handle using list-before or list-after (which didn't work either)?

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Re: [tw] Some Plugins for the new Editor Toolbar

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

Jan,

You mentioned that they don't appear in the Control Panel. They should be 
on the Control Panel under Appearance - Toolbars - Editor Toolbar (not Edit 
Toolbar) at the bottom of the list. 

You haven't quite given me enough to work on to figure out exactly what 
went wrong for you (for example, you didn't say whether they appear on the 
Editor Toolbar or not) so I'm going to try several possibilities. 

1. The plugins only work with TW 5.1.12 which is only available in 
pre-release at the moment. If you are working with a copy of TiddlyWiki 
that you got from the regular site, your version will be 5.1.11 or earlier. 
(If you are working with a TiddlyWiki Classic, then the toolbar functions 
won't work but many similar functions are available from Eric's TiddlyTools 
(http://www.tiddlytools.com/#QuickEditPlugin ) The editor toolbar hadn't 
been developed by version 5.1.11 and so modifications to the editor toolbar 
won't work. To check the version of TiddlyWiki you have, click on the gear 
shaped icon near the top of the sidebar under your wiki's title and 
subtitle. Under the Basics tab under the Info tab you'll find an entry 
labelled "TiddlyWiki Version." If that entry says anything other than 
*5.1.12-prerelease 
or **5.1.12 *then you have an earlier version.  TW 5.1.12 should be 
available vary soon but if you don't want to wait you can download it from 
this link: http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/ 

2. Assuming you are working with 5.1.12, it is possible that what you 
downloaded wasn't the plug-in but the tiddler that describes the plugin. If 
you find a tiddler called FindReplace in your recent tiddlers list, there's 
a good chance that you downloaded the documentation rather than the plugin. 
The plugin will have a name like $:/plugins/sk/FindReplace which won't 
appear on the Recent list. If you do an advanced search of System tiddlers 
for $:/plugins/sk then it should appear on the list if you downloaded the 
correct tiddler.

3. When you download a plugin in tiddler, a prompt should appear at the top 
of the screen reminding you to save and reload to allow changes in plugins 
to take effect. Since the plugins are integrated into the system files, 
they won't have any impact until you reload. I tend to discount this 
possibility since you would have to ignore the prompt and leave you wiki 
running all the time for that to be true.

So, to further diagnose the issue, check the version of TiddlyWiki you are 
using and check that the tiddlers $:/plugins/sk/FindReplace and 
$:/plugins/sk/Transclude are in the System tiddlers list. 


On Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 4:29:25 AM UTC-5, Jan wrote:
>
> Hello Stephen,
> thanks for these great enhancments, they really are what I needed for long.
> Do you have to Install or change a formatting Tiddler to install them?
> I installed $:/plugins/sk/FindReplace and $:/plugins/sk/Transclude 
> 
>  
> but they do not appear in the controlPanel yet...
>
> Thanks for the plugins and the help
> Jan
>
>

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[tw] Re: List of fields in a different tiddler

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

Thanks. That certainly does it. I'm still trying to understand the use of a 
text reference in a filter... which is why I was pursuing the {$:/temp/old} 
approach. But in any case, this gets me past my difficulty. Thanks again.

On Friday, May 6, 2016 at 1:48:17 PM UTC-5, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Is this what you want?
>
> <$set name=tid value={{$:/temp/old}}>
> 
> <$list filter="[fields[]] -[[text]]" variable="fieldname">
> <$text text=<>/>
> <$view tiddler=<> field=<>/>
> 
> 
> 
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, May 6, 2016 at 10:21:43 AM UTC-7, Stephen Kimmel wrote:
>>
>> What I want to do is produce a list of fields and values for a tiddler 
>> that isn't the current tiddler but whose name is contained in a temporary 
>> tiddler. 
>>
>> Given that this code produces a list of fields and values for the current 
>> tiddler
>>
>> 
>> <$list filter="[is[current]fields[]] -[[text]]" variable="fieldname">
>> <$text text=<>/>
>> <$view field=<>/>
>> 
>> 
>>
>> can someone explain to me what it takes to produce a similar result?
>>
>> None of the combinations I've tried with {$:/temp/old} have brought me 
>> any luck.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[tw] List of fields in a different tiddler

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

What I want to do is produce a list of fields and values for a tiddler that 
isn't the current tiddler but whose name is contained in a temporary 
tiddler. 

Given that this code produces a list of fields and values for the current 
tiddler


<$list filter="[is[current]fields[]] -[[text]]" variable="fieldname">
<$text text=<>/>
<$view field=<>/>



can someone explain to me what it takes to produce a similar result?

None of the combinations I've tried with {$:/temp/old} have brought me any 
luck.




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[tw] Some Plugins for the new Editor Toolbar

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

In keeping with the general spirit of the TiddlyWiki community, ie, you 
develop something useful and/or potentially interesting you share it with 
others, I'm sharing some of the plugins I've developed to go with the new 
Editor Toolbar. You'll find them and a more extensive discussion of what 
each does at http://skplugins.tiddlyspot.com/ 

I start developing these functions when I was working on my own toolbar and 
many of them I've been using for quite some time. Even so, you should use 
them with caution. As the developer, there is always the risk that I simply 
avoid the traps and pitfalls and am simply blind to some bugs. Accordingly, 
please let me know if you find something or have suggestions for 
improvements. I've tried all of them with various TW 5.12 preleases and so 
far they seem to be working well.

The plug-ins related to the Editor Toolbar include:

   1. TableHelper - Converts blocks of comma separated or tab separated 
   data into TiddlyWiki Tables
   2. TableCols - Adjusts the alignment of a user specified column to 
   Centered, Left or Right justified as well as adding or deleting columns
   3. FindReplace - Adds Find and Replace capability to the Editor.
   4. Transclude - Marks a text selection as a transclusion
   5. Links - Marks a text selection as a link
   6. Indent - Indents a selected block of text
   7. BalanceCheck - detects and locates mis-matched parenthesis, braces, 
   brackets and TiddlyWiki formatting marks
   8. Fancy Quotes - Changes the typography of a text selection to standard 
   typgraphic marks
   9. Color - Adds text color or background highlighting color to a 
   specified block of text
   10. Email Convert - Revises blocks of text to change characters that 
   would be misinterpreted by TiddlyWiki such as > and < to their html 
   equivalents. Also adds spacing and converts bullets to TiddlyWiki 
   equivalents.
   11. HTML Convert - Converts an imported to the TiddlyWiki equivalent.

Plug-ins not directly related to the Editor Toolbar:
   
   1. SidebarHelp - Adds a tab to the sidebar area where help tiddlers can 
   be displayed.
   2. WhiteList - Allows a user selected group of words that TiddlyWiki 
   would normally treat as CamelCase words that will be considered ordinary 
   words.
   3. MathCell - Allows math operations within tiddlers


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[tw] How secure is TiddlyWiki?

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

I work for an engineering company and TiddlyWiki is something I use almost 
constantly. My company, however, would rather that I use another wiki 
program that is part of an integrated package. Without going into too much 
detail, the words that immediately come to mind when describing that 
program are "useless" and "vile." Although they've never prohibited me from 
using TiddlyWiki, they have raised questions that I can't easily answer 
such as "How secure is our corporate data?" and "How do you know it isn't 
transmitting data outside the company?" and finally "How do you know it 
won't damage the data on our network?" 

My first reaction is to discount this as paranoia but I don't know the 
inner workings of TiddlyWiki well enough to know it isn't doing those 
things and I'm not sure anyone but Jeremy (and perhaps Eric) do know. I'm 
more worried about Google making copies of my data than I am Jeremy doing 
it. Still Firefox and most modern browsers have gone out of their way to 
prevent applications like TiddlyWiki from working. On a separate but 
related note, one of the math routines developed for TiddlyWiki used a 
separate math package to avoid using the "dangerous" javascript eval 
function. Could some malicious bastard create a plugin that could actually 
damage our computers or our data outside the Wiki?

Does anyone know?

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Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyWiki Hangout #100 will be on Monday 2nd May 2016 at midday BST/UTC+1

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

Sorry I missed this morning's Hangout. Try as I might, I just couldn't 
bring myself to get up at 3:00 AM. 

I know that finding a time that would work for the UK, New Zealand and the 
US would be pretty close to impossible. Moving the times seems like a 
reasonable answer. Early morning UK time sometimes with Early evening other 
times. I know we've had Hangouts at times that were easier for the folks on 
the American west coast. Could we add a few of them again? 

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[tw] A substitute for the javascript Confirm and Alert boxes?

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Has someone come up a substitute for the javascript confirm and alert boxes 
that can be styled? My understanding is that the functions built into the 
browser's javascript can not be styled at all and I find them too bright 
for the color palettes I'm using. What I like is something where I could 
edit navigator.js, change the references from confirm(whatever) to 
something like tbconfirm(whatever). Then I could add some css to a 
stylesheet and change the colors or fonts of the confirm dialog boxes. 

Has someone done something like that with TW5?

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[tw] Re: [tw5] Final tests for 5.1.12 before release

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I use very dark themes and palettes with my Tiddlywikis. In the previous 
pre-release I could style the editor but this one I seem to get glaring 
white with black characters no matter what I do. Perhaps it is something 
very simple but I'm missing it.

Mark S has pointed out that the Undo/Redo arrows don't work in Firefox or 
Firefox derivatives. Unfortunately, Mark, that is the Firefox design and 
not a mistake in Tiddlywiki.

Other than that, everything works as anticipated. 

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[tw] Re: Populating a Select from a user input term

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Mark, (and indirectly Eric)

I am tardy thanking you for that tip. That worked like a champ.

There are times I suspect that Eric knows Tiddlywiki as well as Jeremy. 

Thanks for the tip.

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[tw] Re: Populating a Select from a user input term

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Mario and Mark,

Many thanks. Your reworking was exactly what I needed. I had missed the 
detail of the single curly bracket when used with a filter. 

I went with the caption field rather than the title because some of what 
I'm having the user look-up are system files which I find have names that 
can be confusing. You're right. A tiddler without a caption will produce a 
blank line and that isn't the best. Still, if I could figure some way to 
show the caption preferentially and the title if the caption field was 
blank I would be a happy camper.

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[tw] Populating a Select from a user input term

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A regular search generates a list of links. Instead of that I want to 
populate a $Select widget list. I've been able to populate the $Select 
widget list from a $List that includes a search operator that has a hard 
coded entry in the filter using something like this 

<$select>
<$list 
filter='[all[shadows+tiddlers]tag[WikiText]search[quote]sort[title]]'>
>><$view field='caption'/>



but nothing I've tried has allowed me to put something changeable in there 
like.

<$list 
filter='[all[shadows+tiddlers]tag[WikiText]search[{{$:/temp/searchterm}}]sort[title]]'>

My luck with variables hasn't been any better. 

<$list 
filter='[all[shadows+tiddlers]tag[WikiText]search[<>]sort[title]]'>

This seems like it ought to be a straightforward problem but it has me 
stumped. Anyone out there have a way of doing this?

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[tw] My TiddlyWiki Math Project

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

My TiddlyWiki math project, which I'm calling Mathcell, has progressed far 
enough to actually be of some use to people. So I'm unleashing it on the 
unsuspecting public in hopes of getting some feedback and comments.

A bit of background. About the only software I use more than TiddlyWiki is 
Microsoft Excel. Inspired by a programming effort that created a Tiny 
Excel-like app in plain vanilla javascript with no libraries and just 30 
lines of code, http://jsfiddle.net/ondras/hYfN3/, I set to work creating my 
own version. I succeeded and Mathcell (math in a cell) is the result. The 
essential tiddlers are about 3,000 bytes in total and there are three 
examples and two datatiddlers that total about another 5,000 bytes.

In essence, you can enter a macrocall, <$macrocall $name="eval1" 
datatiddler="$:/sk/data" cell="a1"/> in any tiddler and create a Mathcell. 
In that Mathcell, you can enter formulas or javascript math functions and 
using a button toggle back and forth between the data entry form and the 
result. The routine can handle complex math operations, string 
concatenation and has circular reference protection. 

This routine is no match for Excel or even some of the much bigger add-in 
spreadsheets, but if you need some very flexible mathematics in your wiki, 
this may suit your needs.

You'll find Mathcell at http://mathcell.tiddlyspot.com/

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Re: [tw] [tw5] Introducing new text editor toolbar

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While I find the bitmap editor amusing, I don't see myself using it very 
much beyond possibly annotating pictures. Rather than being part of the 
standard core, I think that functionality would be better as a plugin so 
the folks who would use these capabilities can have them while others can 
skip them.

However in the context of Tiddlywiki, I think I would find a graphics 
editor that handled SVGs could be very useful. I know SVGs are a completely 
different beast than most other graphic forms so using the current 
functions probably wouldn't help much.

Sort of along those lines, I would be interested in knowing what SVG 
editors people are using as I haven't found one that a) I like very much 
and b) produces an SVG in a form as simple as the ones Jeremy uses for his 
buttons.

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Re: [tw] [tw5] Introducing new text editor toolbar

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

Then that's what I missed. It does neatly address the issue of different 
toolbars for different tiddler types.

On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 at 12:11:33 PM UTC-5, Mark S. wrote:
>
> I'm trying to figure out which new icons you are referring to. The paint 
> icons only show up if your tiddler is an image type. Is that what you mean, 
> or are some other even newer icons?
>
> Have fun,
> Mark
>
> On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 at 8:35:04 AM UTC-7, Stephen Kimmel wrote:
>>
>> I don't think so. I've attached screen captures to illustrate.
>>
>> Is this, perhaps, a Firefox issue?
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 at 8:57:12 AM UTC-5, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Stephen
>>>
>>> On 15 Mar 2016, at 11:55, 'Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki <
>>> tiddl...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> If you go to http://rich-text-editor.tiddlyspot.com/ and open the 
>>> TiddlyWiki Pre-release tiddler, you'll see the basic icons but not the new 
>>> ones. Go to the Control Panel, Text Editor Toolbar you'll see that Paint 
>>> Colour, Opacity, Line Width, etc, are all checked. If you go to 
>>> $:/core/ui/TextEditorToolbar/paint you'll see that is has a condition field 
>>> which, as close as I can tell, is identical to the one for 
>>> $:/core/ui/TextEditorToolbar/bold. 
>>>
>>>
>>> Did you mean to include a different URL?
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>>
>>> Jeremy
>>>
>>

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Re: [tw] Re: [tw5] Introducing new text editor toolbar

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

Andrew,

Does your reduce plugin also end up creating words that a search would find 
that weren't actually in the original text? Your demo has "some text one 
one three three one two one 12345 12345" with the resulting string becoming 
"twothreetextsomeone12345". I see the words "texts" and "someone" in there. 
Though it would lessen the impact of your function, leaving in some spaces 
as separators would prevent false positives when the result is searched.

Stephen

On Saturday, March 12, 2016 at 11:40:10 PM UTC-6, Andrew wrote:
>
> To show Jeremy how much I appreciate the coming toolbar, I creating a 
> plugin  to add a button to it. 
>
>
>

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Re: [tw] [tw5] Introducing new text editor toolbar

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

I caught that one and was able to make all my new buttons re-appear. 

If you go to http://rich-text-editor.tiddlyspot.com/ and open the 
TiddlyWiki Pre-release tiddler, you'll see the basic icons but not the new 
ones. Go to the Control Panel, Text Editor Toolbar you'll see that Paint 
Colour, Opacity, Line Width, etc, are all checked. If you go to 
$:/core/ui/TextEditorToolbar/paint you'll see that is has a condition field 
which, as close as I can tell, is identical to the one for 
$:/core/ui/TextEditorToolbar/bold. 

I'm missing something.

Cheers

On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 at 2:19:07 AM UTC-5, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> It could be that you're missing a "condition" field, which holds a filter 
> indicating when the button should be displayed. Have a look at the built-in 
> buttons,
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
> --
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> jer...@jermolene.com 
> http://jermolene.com
>
> On 15 Mar 2016, at 02:41, 'Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki <
> tiddl...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
> I'm obviously missing something but I can't make any of the new icons 
> appear on the editor toolbar. They, and indeed everything besides H4, H5 
> and H6, appear to be selected on the Control Panel Text Editor Toolbar 
> section, but nothing I've tried makes them appear. 
>
> What am I missing?
>
>

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Re: [tw] [tw5] Introducing new text editor toolbar

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

I'm obviously missing something but I can't make any of the new icons 
appear on the editor toolbar. They, and indeed everything besides H4, H5 
and H6, appear to be selected on the Control Panel Text Editor Toolbar 
section, but nothing I've tried makes them appear. 

What am I missing?

On Monday, March 14, 2016 at 4:15:55 PM UTC-5, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Thanks to everyone for the feedback - and particular congratulations to 
> Andrew Harrison for the “reduce” button. I’ve answered comments from Mat, 
> Knut and Stephen below.
>
> I’ve uploaded a bunch of new changes to GitHub and to the preview:
>
> * Improved bitmap editing functionality, including:
> ** selectable colours with a new reusable colour picker
> ** selectable painting width
> ** selectable opacity
> ** clear image to colour
> ** resize the image
> * New button for switching the text editor between automatic resizing and 
> a fixed height
>
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/2315
>
> http://rich-text-editor.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> > edit mode text toolbar could really be a general platform for 
> manipulating edit mode content, something that we have not really had thus 
> far.
>
> That is correct. The mechanism isn’t specific to wikitext. I plan to add 
> suitable buttons to the Markdown plugin, for example, and as you suggest, 
> the KaTeX and Railroad plugin could ship with it’s own toolbar buttons too.
>
> > Another valuable tool type would be a kind of fold/unfold, possibly 
> using the revealwidget and similar to Erics old NestedSlidersplugin (an 
> absolute favourite of mine in TWC); I.e select a text portion and click a 
> text editor tool to have the selection surrounded with the necessary reveal 
> mechanism. The resulting view mode button and the content text could be of 
> different kinds:
>
> You could build that button based on the existing “bold” button.
>
> > IMO to hide/reveal parts in content is very powerful concept for text 
> (hypertext?) - i.e for conveying a message with text in the most efficient 
> way. It lets you design a text that turns to readers of different levels in 
> a much(!) more elegant way than common hyperlinking does; instead of 
> jumping away from the text for more in-depth, it lets you access depth in 
> place. (One could even imagine a text where a reader fills in at what level 
> he wants the text - "summary", "overview", "in-depth but with highlighted 
> basic concepts"... - and this sets the depth for the reveals. Or the system 
> stores depth level from previous use and uses this as default.)
>
> The concept of “stretchtext” in classical hypertext is pretty close to 
> what you’re getting at:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StretchText
>
> > Hide/reveal is IMO also generally underused in hypertext, probably 
> because there is no standard html construct for it. In TW we do have the 
> revealwidget but this is IMO much to complex to apply - compare it to the 
> simplicity in adding a link, or a transclusion.
>
> We have discussed before adding wikitext syntax for a hide/reveal pair, 
> it’s an interesting idea.
>
> > I might have missed it before or there is a new tool to the right of the 
> Redo button; it seems to be something to insert/control the vertical 
> distance between two sections (great idea). I don't get it to work though 
> (FF nor Chrome, win10) and the popup looks a bit rough with very airy 
> squares stating a pixel number.
>
> It was actually the embryonic control for setting the text editor height. 
> It’s fixed now.
>
> > On the matter of including the Rich text editor in core; I think it 
> should be in standard distro (as expected by newcomers!) but maybe now is a 
> good time to introduce a more advanced edition without pretty stuff.
>
> It would be quite surprising if the “advanced” edition had less stuff in 
> it than the “standard” one! But I get what you mean.
> <:-)
>
> > I think pushing the inline markup buttons with no text selected should 
> insert start/end markers (which they do) and then position the cursor in a 
> suitable position for immediately entering bold/strikethrough/... text 
> (instead of selecting the inserted markup). Same for ordered/unordered 
> lists and headings when the cursor is on an empty line.
>
> I agree, and plan to do just that.
>
> > When the cursor is at the end of a line (with no selection), block 
> markup buttons behave differently than when the cursor is anywhere else on 
> the same line. This may be confusing.
>
> > If some text in the middle of a paragraph is selected, the block markup 
> (code/quote/list/numbered list/headings) buttons fail to insert the empty 
> leading line needed for correct rendering.
>
> Thanks, I’ll look at both those..
>
> > For excising text, I believe linking would be a better default than 
> transclusion. Splitting up a tiddler that has grown too large is probably a 
> more common use case than including a snippet somewhere else; though this 
> may be my personal preference.
>
> Makes se

[tw] Re: [tw5] Introducing new text editor toolbar

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

I'm having a problem with the preview window in the new text editor. In 
some cases the preview falls below the editing area. I assume that I've 
done something to create this but the system should be robust enough to 
withstand whatever it was I did.



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[tw] How to use colours from the palette

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

My goal is to highlight some text with a background colour that changes 
whenever I select a different palette or change the colours on the palette. 
In general I've been using the form

@@background-color:yellow; I'm using a yellow background@@ 

which works just fine but doesn't change colors with the palette change. 
Since I can retrieve a colour from the palette using the form:

{{$:/palettes/Vanilla##alert-background}}

I tried this but alas it didn't work:

@@background-color:{{$:/palettes/Vanilla##alert-background}}; Retrieving 
from the data tiddler doesn't work@@

I can also retrieve a colour from the palette using the colour macro in the 
form: <> and that retrieves the actual value but 

@@background-color:<>; And neither does the colour 
macro@@

doesn't work either.

Am I missing something obvious? Is there a reasonable workaround?


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[tw] Re: TW5 Sortable Tables

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

Thanks. That will get it. The variation I've actually settled on is 
directly implied by your suggestion.

.tc-btn-invisible-left {
text-align:left;
padding: 0; 
margin: 0; 
background: none; 
border: none; 
}

That way, the other .tc-btn-invisible items continue to function as 
intended and only my specified ones are left aligned.

On Monday, November 2, 2015 at 12:00:37 PM UTC-6, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> Stephen,
>
> The problem is that there are two places that need to be changed. One is 
> the td tags and the other is the buttons that allows inline editing. 
> Putting   around the macro call will 
> make the some of the table headers properly aligned. The rest are using the 
> class tc-btn-invisible, so you need to make a tiddler tagged with 
> $:/tags/Stylesheet with something like this in it:
>
> .tc-btn-invisible {
> text-align:left;
> }
>

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[tw] Re: TW5 Sortable Tables

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

Jed. I hate to be so remarkably dense but I would like to do some minimal 
format change on the generated tables. Specifically I would like the cell 
entries to be left aligned rather than centered. But I'm not finding where 
that is done. 

On Monday, October 26, 2015 at 4:56:21 AM UTC-5, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> Or I will do it now. That works too. Here are the updated examples 
> . I guess the next 
> task is to let something other than the tiddler or field name be the 
> column/row header.
>

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[tw] Re: Beginner help and Usability request

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

Reza,

4) Continuing with improvement, just as in this post i have access to the 
basic tools on the menu, liks Bold, Numbered list, insert image, text size 
and things that are mostly used, would it not be possible to add these 
things in TW just as they are available here when posting a thread?

> This would make the TW so much more approachable and user friendly. Any 
> thoughts or plans on this? 
>

While it isn't a fully functional plugin yet and not wysiwyg, you might 
consider http://tw5editor.tiddlyspot.com/ which is a modification to the 
text mode editor with the toolbar and many of the standard editing 
features. I haven't updated it since 5.1.8 came out officially since I've 
been working on a wysiwyg version but if it would be helpful, I will update 
it.

And welcome to TiddlyWiki.

Step

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Is there a template or CSS to expand editing space

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If you click the "Hide Preview" button, you get an editing space the width 
of the tiddler. If the entire wiki has a lot of blank space to the right 
side, you can change the settings using the Control Panel (gear icon) - 
Appearance - Theme Tweaks and then adjust the Story Right, Story Width and 
Tiddler Width to use the entire screen. With some adjustments you should be 
able to get an editing area more than half the width of your screen. 

Version 5.1.8 which is in prerelease form has the option of making even the 
side-bar disappear which will leave you with the entire width of the screen 
or your editing area.

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[tw] Setting the initial state of toggles/fields

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Probably a simple question with a simple answer that I've missed along the 
way.

I'm using a combination of buttons to toggle the display from one mode to 
another in much the same way the Show/Hide preview works when editing a 
Tiddler. For clarity, I'll call it View 1 and View 2. As it currently 
stands when I reopen a tiddler, I get whatever view goes with the last 
toggle position as recorded in a field. If I close a tiddler in View 2, it 
comes up in View 2 when I reopen it. I want it to always open in View 1 
regardless of what the position was when I closed the tiddler. 

Is there a simple way to force the field to contain a specific value when I 
open a tiddler? 

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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki5 Logo Proposal

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Blue with text is my preference. I could also see these in a muted form as 
the background for TiddlyWiki.

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[tw] Re: Sticky Table Headers

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

I looked at that but tables seem to be immune to that approach. Or perhaps 
I'm just missing something.


On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 4:08:42 PM UTC-5, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:
>
> Take a look at this example : 
>
> http://jsfiddle.net/daker/ecpTw/light/ 
>
> Reference: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/position

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[tw] Sticky Table Headers

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 TW 5.1.8 does "sticky" tiddler titles where the title line stays visible 
at the top of the screen while any of the tiddler is visible. Is there 
anyway to do that sort of thing with tables inside tiddlers? Some of my 
tables are longer than the screen height and it would very nice if I could 
make the table header lines remain on screen while any of the table is 
visible.

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[tw] Re: pretty quotes?

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I started modifying my editor to handle the changing of quotemarks to 
pretty quotes when I encountered an obstacle; the issue of 
internationalization. As it turns out the Americans and the British handle 
quotes somewhat differently. Americans would say "the period must go inside 
the quotes." The British, on the other hand prefer "the period should go 
outside the quotes". Other languages don't use the pretty quotes or the 
ordinary quotemarks preferring completely different punctuation. The issue 
here is that the software shouldn't take perfectly correct local 
punctuation and make it something that might be right in America or in the 
UK but wrong in their language. 

How many punctuation variations do we have within the community and how 
would we go about programming TiddlyWiki to handle the differences? Is it 
even worth the effort to try?

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Formatting imported text files

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On Thursday, March 12, 2015 at 1:58:46 AM UTC-5, Jon wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> As mentioned on another thread, I'm importing a large number of small text 
> files after splitting a word document.
>
> The resulting tiddlers will have one or a few words per line and I need to 
> maintain that formatting.
>
> I've played around a bit with it and I can see there's a risk of 
> unintended consequences, so I wanted to check out the options before 
> spending time doing it for all of them, choosing the wrong method and 
> having to do it all again (which I've had to do several times already!)
>
> Although a bit laborious, I can apply """ to each text file before 
> importing but wondered if this is the best way of doing things or would it 
> be better to apply formatting globally once imported, perhaps using a 
> template or tag?
>
> The tiddlers will also be transcluded and appear in tables, so the 
> formatting also needs to be retained there as well.
>
> Thanks,
> Jon
>


You might give this a try: http://tw5editor.tiddlyspot.com/  One of the 
icons on the editor toolbar is called an email converter. I designed it to 
clarify the formatting of imported text files.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Importing large number of text files

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>
> I was splitting it up so I could separate out individual elements and make 
> them tiddlers and then transclude them in different relationships.


The question is whether you split - import - transclude or import - split - 
transclude. My preferred answer is to import first and let TiddliWiki 
create the fields and do the heavy lifting for me when I split. 
 

> Unless there's another way of leaving the original document intact and 
> referencing/transcluding the particular sections of the document?
>

If you import the entire document and then do the copy - drag - drop 
approach, your original document in TiddlyWiki remains intact as long as 
you want. The new smaller tiddlers can be transcluded or referenced  as 
you'd like. There is no method that I am aware of to reference a subsection 
of a tiddler within another tiddler. 

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[tw] Re: Random background image

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Now that is seriously cute. 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Importing large number of text files

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Given that you have already split the word document into separate files, 
Jeremy's answer is probably as good as there is. However, for the next time 
you need to do something like this, consider that you could have done the 
operation differently.

I import Word files into TiddlyWiki all the time and some of them are quite 
large. I open the document in Word and copy the entire document. I then 
paste it into TiddlyWiki creating one large tiddler. The copy and paste 
operation nearly converts the document into a text document but not quite 
and some of the formatting has to be repaired. Once I've saved the large 
tiddler, for many of my purposes, I'm done. When I need a small portion of 
the large tiddler, I can split it out simply enough. If you highlight the 
portion of the text in display mode and drag it to an open area of 
TiddlyWiki, say under the sidebar, and drop it there, TiddlyWiki will treat 
that as though you're importing a new untitled tiddler. You can then 
complete the import and rename that tiddler anything you would like. The 
net result is that you could do the entire operation in about the same 
amount of time as you have done already. 

An alternative approach is to get yourself a copy of TiddlyWiki Classic 
from Eric's TiddlyTools http://www.tiddlytools.com/ with the Quickstart 
Basics package. That includes an editor function that will allow you to 
split a large tiddler into smaller ones while leaving either links or 
transclusions in the main document to retain the order of the original 
document. Eric also has what I would call a powertool called SplitTiddler 
that will split the large tiddler automatically in a number of different 
ways including at a user defined section marker. Eric's tools will only 
work with TiddlyWiki Classic. However, once you have the document split up 
or refactored, you can then import the finished tiddlers into TW5.

Although TiddlyWiki was designed with small tiddlers in mind, I find it 
handles large ones just as well. You can leave the Word document as a 
single tiddler if that suits your needs or split it up as required. Next 
time you import a Word document, consider what you are actually trying to 
accomplish before you go to the effort of splitting it up.

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Formatting text and other features

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On Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 8:49:50 AM UTC-6, ale...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Thank you Andreas!
>
> This is exactly what I meant! Sorry for the confused post!
> I'm going to try to use your suggestion
> Thanks
> Alessia
>

Alessia,

One or two caveats about the experimental editor Andreas mentioned. You 
should avoid having two or more tiddlers open for editing at the same time, 
That can confuse the editor and some functions can do things to the wrong 
tiddler. That wiki is not really geared toward exporting and installing its 
components into an existing wiki so installing it can be problematic. If 
you run into difficulties with it, let me know and I'll see what I can do 
to help you.

As Andreas said, the editor is still under development. I would welcome any 
comments or suggestions you might have on it.

Stephen

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Experimental "stacked view"

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>
> ​Just to be clear, it's not yet finished, with several known problems and 
> limitations. I'm releasing it for feedback. You may prefer to decide 
> whether to use it or not once it's complete.


I hope I didn't come across as being too negative. Part of the joy of 
TiddlyWiki is that you can customize your experience to match your 
particular tastes. You can guess how much someone who spends 90% of his 
time in Zoomin mode would like the stacked view. 

And I know all about preliminary, experimental and barely functional 
modifications to the system. 

Feedback: 

If you're going to use the sticky mode with the stacked view, then I would 
think that sticking to the top of the screen would be better since 
otherwise you could have the title bar hovering over the middle of a 
tiddler. 

I found I was confused with which text was in the top tiddler and which 
text was in the tiddler just below particularly when the top tiddler was 
shorter or narrower than the underneath tiddler. Perhaps it would be easier 
to work with if the underneath tiddler was a slightly different, perhaps 
darker color. Perhaps something like a gray mask so that you could see the 
lower tiddlers and select them but could clearly distinguish between them 
and the top one.

I may just be getting old, but I couldn't tell what the titles were of any 
of the tiddlers deeper than about the fourth level since they were so tiny. 
If you had a user selectable zoom level for the deeper levels, you could 
solve that. And a zero zoom factor would give you something that would look 
like what Tobias drew up.

> 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Experimental "stacked view"

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I hate to be negative but...

I'm with Tobias on this one. I can see myself using his arrangement but the 
experimental stacked view, especially with the sticky titles that take 
effect about mid page... I think I've probably already used as much as I 
ever will.

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[tw] Re: CKEditor replace by class

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>
> The only improvement I can think of so far is that it would be great if 
> buttons could behave like a "toggle", that is if it could detect existing 
> markup and remove it on second press.
>
Like for example if I bold some text  in my selection pressing the Bold 
> button again would toggle it off removing the previously applied "bold 
> tags".
>

Now that's an interesting idea that hadn't occurred to me. The same code 
you would need to do that would also allow you to select an area with the 
basic marks and then remove the marks. 

Hmmm. 

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[tw] Re: CKEditor replace by class

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Duarte,

This is a bit off-topic for your question, but I would appreciate it if you 
would take a look at my editor project and give me some feedback on it. 
http://tw5editor.tiddlyspot.com/

It's not a WYSIWYG editor but I started working on it to address some of 
what I saw as shortcomings with the built-in editor.

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[tw] Re: Editor Wishlist

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>
> I tried out the undo button using Chrome version 39.0.2171.93 on my 
> android phone but it doesn't seem to do anything. I'll do some more testing 
> and let you know here within this next week. 
>

Hmm. I just tested it on Chrome 39.0.2171.95 on a Windows PC and it worked 
as I expected. Since I don't have an android phone I haven't been able to 
test it in that environment. There may be differences that I hadn't 
anticipated. Try it on a PC.
 

> I have to read about the replace feature because I tried it without 
> reading the help and the red replace text box was confusing. I don't 
> usually use help menus because I don't have time. If it doesn't work as 
> expected or no new features, it doesn't get included in my wiki. 
>

There isn't much if anything by way of documentation for the editor toolbar 
functions. Note to self: write toolbar documentation. 

I made a choice with the replace once function that I may need to rethink. 
If nothing is highlighted, the replace button finds the first occurrence of 
the text in the Find box and highlights it. If the Find box turns red, it 
means the program couldn't find the text it was looking for starting at the 
cursor location. Assuming that the text actually exists in the document but 
ahead of the cursor location, pressing the replace button again will go 
back to the beginning and start the search again. This second time, it will 
stop and highlight the found text but not replace it. Clicking the replace 
button again will replace the highlighted text with the Replace text and go 
on to find the next occurrence of the Find text. Originally I went back to 
the beginning of the document each time. In my test sample I was replacing 
"man" with "woman" and the result was "wowowowoman." While that does have a 
certain charm, it was not what I wanted.

Like I said, I may need to rethink how that works.
 

> I am so close to using your menu that the anticipation is almost 
> unbearable. Thank you so much.


Thank you for that. Be aware that this is still in the development phase. 
If you use my toolbar, use it with caution. Make backups of important data. 
I don't anticipate anything going horribly wrong, that remains a 
possibility.  

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[tw] Re: Editor Wishlist

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PMario, 

If you try it again, I would appreciate it. My editor project can be found 
at: http://tw5editor.tiddlyspot.com/
 

> For me, it's ok but a little bit too red. 
>
may be a bit lighter: #D14836 ... I stole this value from the google groups 
> here on the page :)
>

Done 
 

> If the element gets the focus it may be white again.
>

Desirable but I'm not sure it can be done within the limitations of 
TiddlyWiki
 

> So now, we just need to cover the toolbar in an element and make it 
> sticky, below the tiddler title. 
>

Done... though disappointingly, the stickiness both for my editor toolbar 
and for the tiddler titles doesn't seem to work with Chrome or Internet 
Explorer. Just how Jeremy manages to make this thing act consistently 
across browsers is beyond me. I seem to be constantly bumping into things 
that only work in one handful of browsers but not in some others. 

I did make one other change based on one of Tobias's comments that there 
were too many buttons. The buttons can be turned on or off individually 
under the Control Panel - Appearances - Toolbars - Editor Toobar. If, like 
Tobias, you never use the Superscript or the Subscript, you can turn them 
off.

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[tw] Re: Editor Wishlist

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I've made a few changes to the editor in line with the suggestions of 
PMario and Tobias.

As PMario suggested, I have dropped the "alert" in the Find Next function 
and replaced it with the more browser like behaviour of changing the text 
in the Find box from Black on White to White on Red. As Tobias suggested, I 
have altered the routine to scroll to the found text.

On the Replace All, I have left the warning about the dangers of Replace 
All as it was. I changed it so that it only appears the first time you try 
to do a Replace All. My thought was that would be less offensive than every 
time though setting an option to suppress the warning would be better 
still. 

Tobias, I would be completely mystified about what those snippets do or how 
to use them if I were a new user. We may need some more thought on how 
incorporate that feature into the editor.

My editor project can be found at: http://tw5editor.tiddlyspot.com/

The standard warnings apply. Don't commit any valuable data to using this 
editor. If you have a browser other than Firefox or Chrome or Internet 
Explorer, I would appreciate it if you would try this out and let me know 
how it performs.

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[tw] Re: Editor Wishlist

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>
> I wonder how a general mechanism would work that... lists snippet 
> references in a popup, possibly nested... to which I can dynamically add 
> snippets. Once added, I could click on the snippet in that popup, the 
> desired text is inserted at the caret position / or the end of the editor 
> in case it doesn't have focus. Perhaps some *$action-addtext* widget?


I had wondered if that was the sort of thing you meant. I've seen HTML 
editors that had pop-up/drop-down lists of snippets that would be inserted 
at the cursor location. That would be easily enough done in this format. Do 
you have some snippets you would suggest?
 

> Search and replace... doesn't work well, imho. For one, I think it 
> requires an editor of fixed height which scrolls to the corresponding 
> result. Otherwise, you need to scroll up and down all the time to see 
> what's highlighted.
>

I noticed that it isn't scrolling to the point where it found the text. It 
is on my list of changes to make. 

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[tw] Re: Editor Wishlist

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I have updated my editor project. The revised version can be found at: 
http://tw5editor.tiddlyspot.com/

The revisions incorporate many, though not all, of the features suggested 
and essentially all of the identified bugs.

Jed - I have added the monospace code block and the Search and Replace 
functionality. I haven't implemented the other things you suggested because 
of limitations within Tiddlywiki and my own programming ability. I agree 
that the sublime functions are seriously cool but they are well beyond my 
abilities.

PMaro - I would have referred to it as Beta testing but I like the phrase 
"battle testing." As you suggested I am passing on the keyboard shortcuts 
in part because of Danielo's work in that area. I added the Search and 
Replace and I don't think it makes the interface too bad. I would like to 
hear your opinion on that as well.

Rich - As I said above, I'm passing on the keyboard shortcuts. Take a look 
at Danielo's keyboard snippets: 
http://braintest.tiddlyspot.com/#keyboard-snippets

Tobias - There are folks who create web-pages with Notepad and those who 
have to have a full WYSIWYG html editor. This project is aimed for those 
somewhere in between. A good fraction of what I'm doing was inspired by 
Eric's QuickEdit package. I used that extensively when I worked with TWC 
and missed it a lot when I made the switch to TW5. Part of the thought with 
the switching help/preview panel was that it could contain snippets and 
filters and such that could be copied from the right side and pasted into 
the left side. I know you have a huge collection of that sort of material 
in your various tiddlyspot sites and if you could suggest a few tiddlers 
that could be incorporated into that system, I would be happy to include 
them. I did switch all the icons to SVG and I did fix the issue with the 
editor losing the highlighting of the selection and focus.

Andrew - I have spent a lot of time working on Undo/Redo routines. As it 
stands, I have routines that work in Chrome and Internet Explorer but which 
don't work in Firefox. The obstacle appears to be that Firefox blocks the 
action of the javascript Undo/Redo function when applied to a textarea. If 
you use a browser other than Firefox, I would be happy to show you how to 
install icons to run those routines.

The project is a work in progress. I'm still not happy with the appearance 
and given the divergence of opinions, I would like the user to be able to 
easily select which icons appear and which ones are hidden.

I would like to reiterate that, as PMario might put it, this project still 
needs to be battle tested before you rely on it. I don't think there are 
any lethal bugs but I fully expect there to be annoying and irritating 
surprises to be discovered. I have not tested this on the TiddlyWiki 
desktop or on Safari. If you have one of those available to you, I would 
appreciate it if you would give the project a try and let me know what you 
find.

I made some choices with the implementation of the Search and Replace 
function that others may find annoying. For example, Find is case 
sensitive. Searching for "the" will find the middle of "other" but not 
"Theatre." The Find and Replace might be better described as Replace the 
selected and Find Next. That sort of thing. 

Let me know what you think.



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[tw] Re: Editor Wishlist

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>
> Search and replace for multiple tiddlers is a different topic and imo a 
> different plugin.
>

 Most definitely and, from my standpoint, a quantum leap more difficult 
plugin.

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[tw] Editor Wishlist

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

So far, everything I've done on my editor project has been based on what I 
thought needed to be done or on the Bookmarklet and Keyboard Snippet work. 
To gain a sense of what the community thinks would be important or 
desirable, I would like folks to give me a wishlist of editor features. 

What changes would you like to see incorporated into the editor? Of the 
things I did in my editor project, which are the most helpful and which are 
the least helpful? What would you suggest I do differently? Would you use 
Search and Replace if it were available? A tiddler splitter? Something to 
change text or highlight colors?

I can't promise to address everything anyone suggests. For example, while a 
true WYSIWYG editor would be nice, it is well beyond my ability as a 
programmer. Go ahead and suggest it if you want but be aware that it won't 
happen soon. 

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[tw] Re: Editor Prototype Mk II

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

>
> Totally unrelated I find myself using the Community Search 
>  
> a lot these days and it has been very helpful.


I've added Community Search to my personal version of the Editor Help 
though it isn't part of the uploaded version at this time in part because I 
wasn't sure you would allow that. You might have traffic limitations on 
your server or there may be other limitations that would argue against a 
wider distribution.  I think I would prefer linking to a tiddler with just 
the search and a brief explanation rather than your Getting Started page. 
It is your site and I will defer to your decision on that.
 

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[tw] Re: Editor Prototype Mk II

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

>
> The icons should be SVGs. The PNGs don't scale well with a browser zooming 
> factor.
>

I have made that change. There are a couple I'm not thrilled with how a 
couple of them look 

If you convert heading "  imo it should be
> !! heading 2 ... see the space. It has much better readability in edit 
> mode.
>

I agree and made that change to all the .. conversions as well.
 

> There are some problems with activate formatting and selected text. ... I 
> think I'll create a video for those, since they are complicated to explain 
> in text only.
>

I'll be interested in seeing what you come up with. I have noticed that the 
double click select gets both the word and the space afterwards. 

Thanks for the suggestions. 

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[tw] Re: Editor Prototype Mk II

['Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki]

>
> I know you are looking for feedback, so here goes. Your edit toolbar is 
> cool. Most essential though if anyone is going to use it would be *undo*. 
> I showed it to several non tiddlywiki people and they said abandon wiki 
> markup and go straight to html. The business world does not use wiki 
> markup. Tiddlywiki will always have markup as far as I know, but people who 
> don't use and wont use markup will use this if it is user friendly. I have 
> always wondered why we have an edit window with markup and a preview 
> instead of an editable preview with a toolbar like your's and a separate 
> editable code preview if you wanted to type it in html code or markup. 
> Anyway, I will be following this tread waiting for an *undo* button or 
> Ctrl-z to work.
>

 Andrew, thank you for your feedback. I appreciate that you made the effort.

I'll assume that you, like me, were unaware of the mouse right click Undo. 
Would that be sufficient or do you think the toolbar needs an explicit Undo 
button? 

Are you aware that you can enter tiddlers in html in the editor? Presumably 
someone who knows html but is weak in markdown or wikitext could do 
anything they wanted in html instead. 

Again, thanks for your feedback

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