Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Is there a way to import multiple tiddlers from a single file?

[Andrew Sanchez]

Dear Jeremy,

I'd be interested in playing around with the Node.js script.  Sounds useful!

Thanks,
Andrew

On Thursday, July 9, 2015 at 8:32:25 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Steve
>
> Funnily enough, I've been working with some CSV files in my dayjob. I've 
> got a very noddy little Node.js script that converts CSV files into JSON 
> files. It's not very polished - eg one has to edit the JS source to tell it 
> which columns to use.
>
> But, if you're comfortable with Node.js it might make a good starting 
> point. If you're interested I can post it to GitHub.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 4:18 PM, stevesuny 
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> Reviving an old thread. Am again interested in importing CSV as separate 
>> tiddlers.
>>
>> I use google sheets to generate CSV.
>>
>> I'd like to use http://www.convertcsv.com/csv-to-json.htm to create 
>> json, but none of the output formats work - when I use the import, the json 
>> file doesn't return any tiddlers available for import.
>>
>> Anyone have suggestions or experience with this? Or, alternatives?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> //steve.
>>
>>
>> On Friday, April 24, 2015 at 11:15:16 AM UTC-4, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Steve
>>>
>>> You'll probably have seen the current built-in support for CSV files in 
>>> TW5: dragging or importing a file results in a single tiddler containing 
>>> the entire CSV file. There's a special parser for text/csv tiddlers so that 
>>> the content gets displayed as a nicely formatted HTML table.
>>>
>>> The approach I favour for making the CSV importing more flexible is 
>>> actually to add facilities for accessing and manipulating the content of 
>>> CSV tiddlers, rather than extending the import process itself. I like the 
>>> idea of maintaining CSV as a native format, not just an import format - we 
>>> could integrate a JavaScript spreadsheet engine like SocialCalc (see 
>>> http://tiddlywiki.com/rboue's%20plugins%20for%20TiddlyWiki)/
>>>
>>> Adding basic support for referencing rows and cells in CSV tiddlers 
>>> would be fairly straightforward - it would largely mirror the existing 
>>> implementation for access to property indexes within data tiddlers (aka 
>>> JSON tiddlers). I'd be happy to guide anyone interested in working on a 
>>> pull request.
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>>
>>> Jeremy.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 3:01 PM, stevesuny  wrote:
>>>
 Of course, writing out the problems leads to its solution (at least 
 partially).

 I've discovered that, as promised above, a properly formatted json 
 file, as:

 [
 {"title":"Tiddler1","text":"This is the text of tiddler 
 1","tags":"Tag1 Tag2 [[Tag 3]]"},
 {"title":"Tiddler2","text":"This is the text of tiddler 2, with a 
 link to [[Tiddler1]]","tags":"Tag1 Tag4"}
 ]

 saved as, for example, tiddlers.json

 can then be imported using the "native" import in TW5, and then click 
 on import, and all tiddlers get created.


 I'm now working on generating json files from spreadsheet. Here is a 
 link for a script for google sheets:


 http://blog.pamelafox.org/2013/06/exporting-google-spreadsheet-as-json.html

 It looks reasonable, and I'll work on it today. 

 As always, once discovered, it seems straightforward. Thanks, Jeremy, 
 for the file structure that you put in a few years ago which got me headed 
 in the right direction.

 //steve.


 On Friday, April 24, 2015 at 9:53:43 AM UTC-4, Måns wrote:
>
> +1
>
> My workflow has been to import csv file to TWc via Eric's 
> CreateTiddlersFromCsv and then drop the TWc on a TW5 to import all 
> tiddlers 
> at once.
> The tedious part is then to click/accept to convert every imported 
> tiddler from TW classic format to a TW5 format.
> It is tedious when you have 300+ tiddlers to convert. I guess it 
> should be ok with a few tiddlers...
>
> There is an online csv to JSON converter here: 
> http://www.convertcsv.com/csv-to-json.htm I haven't tried it out 
> yet...
>
> If you drag a correctly formated JSON file on to a TW5 it should 
> generate tiddlers - again I haven't tried it out.
>
> Good luck - and please tell how it goes.
>
> Cheers Måns Mårtensson
>  
>
> Den fredag den 24. april 2015 kl. 15.41.55 UTC+2 skrev stevesuny:
>>
>> Resurrecting an old thread, yet again...I have the same challenge (a 
>> spreadsheet file where each line becomes a tiddler, with separate column 
>> for title, text, tags, etc.. I need to help students import a large 
>> number 
>> of tiddlers (5 to 200 or more) that they create through spreadsheet 
>> manipulation. In TWClassic on tiddlyspace, we use the Tiddlytools plugin 
>> http://tiddlytools.com/#CreateTiddlersFromCSV. 
>>
>> As I contemplate moving classes from TWClassic to TW5, I need t

[tw] Re: My solution to the Google Chrome save issue

[Andrew Sanchez]

it would be cool if, instead of adding (1) to the TW file, Chrome could add 
the current time and date to the saved file.  Then, instead of overwriting 
your file you would have a revision history.  It would also be great if you 
could program your browser to save specific files (by name, type, etc.) in 
different locations automatically.

On Wednesday, July 1, 2015 at 11:05:04 AM UTC-7, Andy Pastuszak wrote:
>
> Ok.  I've been trying to use GSD with Google Chrome and the saving 
> situation is less than ideal.  Mostly because the save doesn't overwrite 
> the previous file, but instead makes a new file with a (1) added to the 
> end.  This get annoying after the 4th or 5th save.
>
> Since I had no need to make my data portable, I decided to install node.js 
> and install Tiddlywiki in there.  Now, every time I make a change to 
> Tiddlywiki5, it saves automatically.
>
> Very convenient.
>

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[tw] TiddlyMap - error installing into NoteStorm

[Andrew Sanchez]

I got the following error




any suggestions?

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[tw] Re: Current state of Tiddly Spot

[Andrew Sanchez]

Wow!  That was a ridiculously easy and effective solution.  Thank you! 
 Problem solved :D

and I see there was a tiddler on TiddlyWiki.com with these instructions. 
 Thanks for pointing that out, Birthe.

I don't think I quite follow your last sentence, Mat...

You said:

After step 1 you don't even have to visit the new spot from the presented 
> link. I just leave this tab open and when I'm done with step two I go back 
> to this tab to click the link. 
> And, I have step two as a permanent bookmark in my chrome so it is super 
> easy to go to. (It is really just one of the tabs in the Controlpanel)
>

When you say I don't have to visit the new spot, do you mean that I don't 
need to go to my site at username.tiddlyspot.com?  and what tab are you 
talking about leaving open?  Are you talking about this tiddler: 
http://tiddlywiki.com/empty#%24%3A%2Fcore%2Fui%2FControlPanel%2FSaving

What link are you talking about clicking on after going back to the tab? 
 Why would you make 
http://tiddlywiki.com/empty#%24%3A%2Fcore%2Fui%2FControlPanel%2FSaving a 
bookmark?  Once you do step 2, why would you have to go back to 
core/ui/controlpanel/saving shadow tiddler?  Isn't it set from then on, 
after you enter your user name and password?  

Thanks for clarifying and my apologies for my slow understanding.

Andrew

On Tuesday, June 16, 2015 at 3:11:34 PM UTC-7, Mat wrote:
>
> @Andrew
>  
>
>> I am all for using Tiddlyspot, but it doesn't seem like it's working the 
>> way I expect it to.  When I create an account, selecting the "standard 
>> flavour," it looks nothing like the "flavour" on tiddlywiki.com.
>>
>> I also tried to import my TW to Tiddlyspot, hoping that it would replace 
>> the flavour that I had after creating an account, and nothing seemed to 
>> happen.  Perhaps I didn't follow the instructions properly...
>>
>
>
> This is one thing I hope the Bairds will deal with (or someone else); 
> There is currently no TW5 on tiddlyspot but you can upload one. Uploading 
> it must the FIRST time be done using some other browser than FF though, eg 
> Chrome. So what you do is:
>
> 1) Register a tiddlyspot using any browser
> 2) In e.g chrome, go to 
> http://tiddlywiki.com/empty#%24%3A%2Fcore%2Fui%2FControlPanel%2FSaving
> and fill in the new name and password and upload
>
> Done. After step 1 you don't even have to visit the new spot from the 
> presented link. I just leave this tab open and when I'm done with step two 
> I go back to this tab to click the link. 
> And, I have step two as a permanent bookmark in my chrome so it is super 
> easy to go to. (It is really just one of the tabs in the Controlpanel)
>
> <:-)
>

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Re: [tw] Current state of Tiddly Spot

[Andrew Sanchez]

Hi Sylvain,

Your site for TiddlyWiki Camp is gorgeous!

I'm interested in hearing more about how you use a php script.  I'm not 
familiar with php but I supposed I can store a php file on github or google 
drive.


On Tuesday, June 16, 2015 at 2:59:17 PM UTC-7, Sylvain Naudin wrote:
>
>
>
> Le mardi 16 juin 2015 19:58:20 UTC+2, Felix Küppers a écrit :
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>- github project pages: https://pages.github.com/ (e.g. tiddlymap is 
>>served like that).
>> 
>> -Felix
>>
>
>
> Hi,
> I already know about GitHub option but don't have yet time to test it. I 
> just do, and work great ! For example http://silvyn.github.io/n0d1/ 
> 
> Thanks Felix to mention it :)
>
> For TWCamp, I've use php script (to save like TiddlySpot). Andrew if you 
> have a place online to store php file and your tiddlywiki, it's another 
> option.
> (even the script is quite old, still works).
>
> Sylvain
>  
>

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[tw] Re: Current state of Tiddly Spot

[Andrew Sanchez]

Thank you, Mat!

I will be looking forward to hearing from Simon and Daniel.

I am all for using Tiddlyspot, but it doesn't seem like it's working the 
way I expect it to.  When I create an account, selecting the "standard 
flavour," it looks nothing like the "flavour" on tiddlywiki.com.

I also tried to import my TW to Tiddlyspot, hoping that it would replace 
the flavour that I had after creating an account, and nothing seemed to 
happen.  Perhaps I didn't follow the instructions properly...

On Tuesday, June 16, 2015 at 9:58:06 AM UTC-7, Mat wrote:
>
> A fair question. I'm taking the liberty to CC your question and this 
> answer to the people behind Tiddlyspot, cousins Simon and Daniel Baird, so 
> they can answer personally as I think it is a question of general interest.
>
> But to give you a quick answer of my own: Tiddlyspot is one of the corner 
> stones in the TW community and has proven extremely reliable over the years 
> even if there has not been any development over the past few years as you 
> notice. Both Simon and Daniel were previously very involved in the 
> community and have always been very kind and helpful. I personally create a 
> new tiddlyspot every now and then and recently CTO (Chief Tiddly Officer) 
> Jeremy now also welcomes tiddlyspot as a way for community members to 
> contribute code as an alternative to github.
>
> <:-)
>
>
> On Tuesday, June 16, 2015 at 5:58:12 PM UTC+2, Andrew Sanchez wrote:
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I'm a new TW user and was wondering about the current state of Tiddly 
>> Spot.  I am a bit confused because the last post on Tiddly Spot's blogspot 
>> was from 2013, so I wasn't sure if it is still active or a viable/safe 
>> option for using TW.  Are there any other options for using TW in the 
>> cloud, so to speak?
>>
>> Thank you!  I am very much looking forward to digging into all the cool 
>> stuff that is possible.  
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>

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Re: [tw] Current state of Tiddly Spot

[Andrew Sanchez]

Thanks for the recommendations, Felix.  

If I understand correctly, with both the Google Drive and Github options, I 
am unable to save updates directly into Drive or Github, where my Wiki is 
being hosted.  I must first save it to my computer, and then update the 
file on Drive or Github.

Am I missing something?  It would be awesome if I can edit the .html hosted 
on Drive or Github within my browser (just like on Tiddlyspot), without 
first having to save to my computer and push the changes to the host.

I would use Tiddlyspot, but when I create an account with the standard 
flavour option selected, it looks like I get MPTW instead.  The flavour 
they give me looks nothing like what is on tiddlywiki.com

On Tuesday, June 16, 2015 at 10:58:20 AM UTC-7, Felix Küppers wrote:
>
>  Hi Andrew,
>
> because you asked for alternatives: 
>
> other options for hosting a site include:
>
>- google drive: 
>
> https://community.articulate.com/articles/how-to-share-your-e-learning-course-for-free-with-google-drive?page=9#comment-23554
>  
>- github project pages: https://pages.github.com/ (e.g. tiddlymap is 
>served like that).
> 
> -Felix
>
> On 16.06.2015 17:58, Andrew Sanchez wrote:
>  
> Hello all, 
>
>  I'm a new TW user and was wondering about the current state of Tiddly 
> Spot.  I am a bit confused because the last post on Tiddly Spot's blogspot 
> was from 2013, so I wasn't sure if it is still active or a viable/safe 
> option for using TW.  Are there any other options for using TW in the 
> cloud, so to speak?
>
>  Thank you!  I am very much looking forward to digging into all the cool 
> stuff that is possible.  
>
>  Andrew
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[tw] Re: Current state of Tiddly Spot

[Andrew Sanchez]

also, the FAW

On Tuesday, June 16, 2015 at 8:58:12 AM UTC-7, Andrew Sanchez wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I'm a new TW user and was wondering about the current state of Tiddly 
> Spot.  I am a bit confused because the last post on Tiddly Spot's blogspot 
> was from 2013, so I wasn't sure if it is still active or a viable/safe 
> option for using TW.  Are there any other options for using TW in the 
> cloud, so to speak?
>
> Thank you!  I am very much looking forward to digging into all the cool 
> stuff that is possible.  
>
> Andrew
>

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[tw] Current state of Tiddly Spot

[Andrew Sanchez]

Hello all,

I'm a new TW user and was wondering about the current state of Tiddly Spot. 
 I am a bit confused because the last post on Tiddly Spot's blogspot was 
from 2013, so I wasn't sure if it is still active or a viable/safe option 
for using TW.  Are there any other options for using TW in the cloud, so to 
speak?

Thank you!  I am very much looking forward to digging into all the cool 
stuff that is possible.  

Andrew

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[tw] Hello from Arizona!

[Andrew Sanchez]

Dear Tiddlywiki group,

My name is Andrew, I am 25 and studying music and pre-medical science at 
Northern Arizona University.  My goal is to go to medical school in a few 
years and  I am aspiring to develop the ultimate productivity and learning 
system by optimizing my workflow using computer assisted study tactics.  I 
don't even remember I came across tiddlywiki, but it was just a few days 
ago and I am really excited about how it can help me in developing my 
thinking about my system for learning and managing my learning process.

My interests include spaced repetition software like Anki and Supermemo, 
advanced learning techniques like speed reading and memory training (i.e. 
mnemonics, memory palaces, the major system, etc.) and applying all of 
these in an academic environment to master the art of learning and 
memorizing.  

I am excited to start organizing my notes with tiddlywiki, and especially 
about the TiddlyMap mindmapping plugin!

I look forward to interacting with you all!

If there are any other medical students or any other kind of students here 
who actively use tiddlywiki in university, I'd love to hear from you and 
see your examples!

Cheers,
Andrew 

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[tw] TW5 - Taskgraph Plugin by Felix Küppers (dead link)

[Andrew Sanchez]

There was an addition to Resources at tiddlywiki.com which I am very 
interested in, but the provided link is dead!  :(

Would anybody know how to contact Felix Küppers to find out if he can make 
this amazing sounding resource available again?

Here's the original tiddler:

*An interactive network visualisation plugin based on Vis.js 
.*

*http://wkpr.de/hosting/tmp/tw5/taskgraph/ 
*

*TW-Taskgraph is a TiddlyWiki  plugin 
that allows you to link your wiki-topics (tiddlers) in order to create 
clickable graphs. By creating relations between your topics you can easily 
do the following:*

   - *Create mindmaps and quickly manifest your ideas in tiddlers (wiki 
   entries).*
   - *Create task-dependency graphs to organize and describe your tasks.*
   - *Visualize your topic structures to get an immediate grasp of topics 
   and relations.*

*In general you may create, visualize and describe any network-structure 
you have in mind. *


Thank you!

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