Re: [tw] Re: Tiddly wiki 5 ?

[Dani Zobin]

And how about the plugins depository?

How much of the plugins are already adjusted to 5, and how quickly are
others being adjusted?

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 5:50 AM, danizobin  wrote:

> Thanks
>
> On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 5:01:00 AM UTC+3, Jed Carty wrote:
>>
>> It is out of beta and new features are actively being developed for 5, so
>> unless you have some compelling reason to stay with classic you should
>> probably use the new one.
>>
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[tw] Tiddly wiki 5 ?

[Dani Zobin]

Hi dudes,

How ripe is tiddlywiki5?

I'm about to start a new wiki, and wondering which version to use

(I have a large wiki already, based on the original version [whatever it's
called, not the 5])

Thanks

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[tw] TiddlyWiki API

[Dani Zobin]

Hi

I want to start adapting a plugin (Radom Tiddler) to my needs

Where can I find a documentation of the tiddly wiki api?

Some notes:
- I'm a web developer, so no problem with js, jquery, DOM
- I don't want to go too deep into the tiddly code. IDeally short
documentation of the api so that I can achieve my specific goal as quickly
as possible and leave it alone

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[tw] Cancelling the TiddlyFox allert

[Dani Zobin]

I'm using Tiddly on firefox, through the TiddlyFox extension.
Every time I load Tiddly, an annoying allert pop's up, asking me aboujt the
obvious: do I want to enable tiddlywiky saving features. Yes I do.

Is there a way to turn this alert off?

Who is it that asks me that - is it the extension or firefox itself, maybe
some security measure?

Dani

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Re: [tw] Re: Looping through a set of tiddler with "prev" and "next" buttons

[Dani Zobin]

Thank you very much everybody,

want to toss in one more detail:

the set of tiddlers will be taken from search results (of the YourSearch
plugin). Will this work with the each of the solutions that you offered
here?


On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 11:03 AM, FrD  wrote:

> Hello Dani,
>
> http://tiddlywiki.squize.org/#NavigationMacro It's quite old but you
> could give a try.
>
> FrD
>
> Le dimanche 28 avril 2013 02:14:57 UTC+2, danizobin a écrit :
>
>> I would like to be able to loop through an ordered set of tiddler by
>> seeing one tiddler at a time, and having "prev" and "next" buttons to
>> navigate. Does anything like this exist?
>>
>> The selection of tiddlers can come form different sources, this is not
>> the point, asking mainly about the widget of prev - next looping through a
>> predefined set of tiddlers
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Dani
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[tw] Looping through a set of tiddler with "prev" and "next" buttons

[Dani Zobin]

I would like to be able to loop through an ordered set of tiddler by seeing
one tiddler at a time, and having "prev" and "next" buttons to navigate.
Does anything like this exist?

The selection of tiddlers can come form different sources, this is not the
point, asking mainly about the widget of prev - next looping through a
predefined set of tiddlers

Thanks

Dani

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Re: [tw] Re: Showing tiddlers by creation date with YourSearchPlugin or otherwise

[Dani Zobin]

Tobias, this sounds just right,

but, aren't there anything existing? No way to order tiddlers by creation
date?


On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Tobias Beer  wrote:

> This may call for an extension to SimpleSearchPlugin whereas a kind of
> toolbar above the search results provides commands to...
>
>1. switch sort mode among any of
>   - title
>   - modified date
>   - created date
>   2. change sort order between ascending / descending
>
> Perhaps also...
>
>1. filter search results by tags of matching tiddlers
>- using a simple dropdown
>   2. show tiddlers otherwise excluded
>
> Cheers, Tobias.
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[tw] Showing tiddlers by creation date with YourSearchPlugin or otherwise

[Dani Zobin]

I'm using tiddly to write down my thoughts on specific topics as they come.
>From time to time I want to read many tiddler, sometimes by topic sometimes
just everything. And often I want to read them by the same order they were
created.

Now I could just use the timeline, but this is not helpful if I only want a
fraction of my tiddlers. There is also the issue that the timeline shows me
the tiddlers by the date they were last edited, and not the creation date.
This is sometimes a problem, especially with tiddlers that are edited by
accident while reading.

So, I would like to
1. Show all tiddler by creation date
2. Show a set of tiddlers by creation date

For finding single tiddlers I am using the awesome  YourSearchPlugin. Is
there a way top ask it to show search results by a certain order, and open
all of them by this order?

Would like to hear also about other methods not involving  YourSearchPlugin

Thank you

Dani

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Re: [tw] Re: Cloning a wiki with its plugins, settings, etc, but without the content

[Dani Zobin]

Thanks guys,

This all  makes sense, and thank you for pointing me to the plugins by
Eric.

Will use this as I have some time to mess with my new wiki


On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 8:50 PM, HansBKK  wrote:

> Thanks Mans, that's exactly what I use my ".meta" tag for. Since my "base"
> is usually an already well-populated and tweaked flavor of TW, like MPTW or
> more recently TWT-Treeview, I tag all those tiddlers ".system".
>
> Then I use .content for everything I would want to strip out if I were
> saving an "empty".
>
> Then ".meta" covers new non-content tiddlers for features like siteTitle,
> menu nav hierarchies, tag-checking, zzConfig etc. These three tags should
> include every tiddler in the document (one aspect of tag-checking tiddlers).
>
> Works well for me so far, but I really like the idea of doing a "Save As"
> to create a new empty rather than trying to maintain a separate "master
> empty" - that way whatever content-populated "child" I'm working on becomes
> the new master.
>
> Then it's relatively easy to use ImportTiddler to update the other
> "sibling" files - now that I'm also using ".metalocal" for the ones that
> *always* change for every file.
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[tw] Cloning a wiki with its plugins, settings, etc, but without the content

[Dani Zobin]

Hi,

I have a Tiddly, and want to create another one, for other topic.

How can I clone my wiki with all the technical stuff inside (plugins,
settings, etc ), but without the content?

Thanks

Dani

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Re: [tw] Re: How can I use tiddlySpace? Where can I get installation guidelines?

[Dani Zobin]

Great explanation!

On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 3:36 AM, Shavin  wrote:

> Hi rroque.
> Tiddlyspace is already a usable website/platform. All you need is to
> create your own space here http://tiddlyspace.com/ and get started
> right away.
> Now in addition to this the software which runs tiddlyspace is open
> source. This means that you can download that software from here
> https://github.com/TiddlySpace/tiddlyspace and host it on your own
> server and run a website just like tiddlyspace.com. Of course you do
> not need to do that just to create a tiddly space for yourself because
> it would be an overkill, you can just create a space for yourself on
> tiddlyspace.com.
> Another thing, tiddlyspot is a separate website/platform. When
> tiddlywiki was created a website hosting was needed where people could
> created their own instances of tiddlywikis and for this tiddlyspot.com
> was created. On this website one can create one's own tiddlywiki. A
> tiddlywiki on tiddlyspot has its limitations. A tiddlywiki can only be
> downloaded and uploaded whole, in one full file. So that even if you
> have to update a single paragraph you'd have to upload and save the
> whole file. This is because the tiddlywiki file is treated as one
> single unit.
> Later on as tiddlywiki world developed a new model of tiddlyspace was
> developed in which a tiddler is treated as a unit and can be updated.
> Besides this a tiddlyspace can be included into other spaces. By doing
> this any public tiddlers of that site shall start showing up in the
> tiddlyspace they are included into. There are other features too.
> You can think of tiddlyspot as separate, standalone tiddlywiki files.
> On other hand tiddlyspace can be thought of as a web of spaces which
> can intermingle with each other to a certain degree.
> If you want to keep personal offline stuff in a tiddlywiki you can
> download a tiddlwiki file from tiddlywiki.com. If you want a
> tiddlywiki which has a copy offline as well as is hosted online, you
> can create one at tiddlyspot.com. If you want just an online thing
> then tiddlyspace should be your choice, cos it will be faster to save
> data.
>
> On May 8, 6:27 pm, "rro...@renatoroque.com" 
> wrote:
> > I installed Comment Plugin by Eric but it does not perform save on
> > server side.
> >
> > I reported this and Eric told me that "To save those tiddler changes
> > online, you need a "server-side" saving mechanism.  See:
> >
> > http://tiddlywiki.org/#TiddlySpace%20Tiddlyspot
> >
> > I had a look at that URL and I was confused:
> >
> > It says:"TiddlySpace is a service for creating and curating small
> > packets of content on The Web. You may  collaborate with others,
> > assemble content by including spaces, add cool features using plugins
> > and mix your content with other services using the API. TiddlySpace
> > is
> > Open Source software from Osmosoft so you're free to host your own
> > instance on your own domain and are encouraged to contribute to the
> > project. "
> >
> > How can I use TiddlySpace service? What must I install? Where is that
> > open source SW ? Must I use Tiddlyspot? Does it imply not using my
> > server location?
> >
> > Any guideline somewhere?
> >
> > Sorry for my basic ignorance but this TiddlySpace is complertely new
> > for me
> >
> > Regards
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[tw] Re: content organization: the advantage of hierarchy that tags lack, and a cure for this problem

[Dani Zobin]

Throwing in one more idea:

The ability to "stick a filter on the top of you wiki". Probably usually the
filter be a tag.
The "sticking" means a focus into a sub-world of your domain.

For example, if I have a wiki about cars, at some point I may want to set a
"Subaru" filter in the background, i.e. today I'm working only on Subaru, so
append tag:subaru to all my searches / tag browsing and maybe also
automatically apply the tag "Subaru" onto all the new tiddlers I create.



On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:23 AM, Dani Zobin  wrote:

> I'm not aware of a plugin that currently allows this functionality. Do
> enlighten me if there is!
>
> And by the way, Udo, I love your search plugin very much. It does exactly
> what I expected a search to do in the Tidlly environment !
>
>
> On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:19 AM, Dani Zobin  wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> A word of introduction: I came to Tiddly recently, during my search of a
>> better tool to organize my content, which is usually text related
>> to diverse areas.
>> So this is what I'm after more than everything: effective ways to organize
>> unstructured content.
>> I basically feed very good about Tiddly for this aim.
>>
>> And to the topic.
>>
>> I'm sure many of us are coming  originally  from a background of folders
>> and files to organize their content.
>> Than, one day you figure out: this piece of content is related to more
>> than only one category. And my data model (directories tree) is not
>> expressive enough to reflect this fact.
>> Than tags step in - you can tag a piece of content by many tags. If it
>> only belongs to one - than great, tag it with only one tag. And here we have
>> a more expressive data model. Great.
>>
>> But (!) on the way we lost something important . Hierarchical structure
>> hides from us the vast majority of our content, exposing on each step only a
>> small part of relevant content. This follows one of our biggest natural
>> cognitive limitations: *attention*.
>>
>> *Tags, in the traditional form,fail to do so*. You have all your tags at
>> one big pile.
>>
>> The idea of tags cloud tries to handle this problem, by showing the most
>> used tags bigger. But this is a statistical categorization, not conceptual
>> So here is a claim: we need a way to powerfully categorize tags themselves
>> as well. And, be able to select them by categories whenever needing to
>> specify a tag (when searching by tag or
>> when applying a tag)
>>
>> I'll suggest here an initial list of requirements for a feature that
>> follows the thoughts above
>>
>> *- Be able to categorize existing tags, by applying other tags (already
>> possible in Tiddly) [example: apply the tag "vehicle" on the tag "car"]*
>> *- When applying a tag, be able to create a new tag under an existing tag
>> [example: create the tag "subaru" under the tag "car" (that himself is
>> tagged by vehicle). Later, we'll be able to apply also "Japanese products"
>> on "subaru" but in the time of creation it will be probably apropriate to
>> limit categorization to one parent tag]*
>> *
>> *
>> *In two situations we need to specify tags, and this search for tags:
>> when applying a tag, when filtering by a tag*
>> *In this situation we need to be able to search for tags, exactly as
>> we're searching for content. Namely: by textual search - i.e. auto complete
>> (a plugin for this by Udo already exists) and by tags*
>> *So if I want to search info about a car that I recently saw and don't
>> remember the brand, I will type (or better be also able to use a GUI):
>> tags:car [here a dropdown will appear with all tags that are themselves
>> tagged by car, i.e. brands of cars] and I can now choose: only filter by the
>> main category - car, or continue and choose a subtag: Subaru. *
>> *
>> *
>> *Whenever a Tidler is tagged by a tag, it will be automatically tagged
>> also by all parent tags. So when tagging a tiddler by Subaru, it'll be
>> automatically tagged also by "car" and by "Japanese product". (This can be
>> implemented at the time of tagging, or at the time of retrieval. Should be
>> transparent to the user.) *
>> *
>> *
>> Some more general thoughts:
>>
>> Personally I feel that rarely more than 2 levels of hierarchy will be
>> needed. Maybe 3. But this 2-3 level are absolutely needed. I felt this need
>> many times since I started to insert content into my Tiddly some week ago
>

[tw] Re: content organization: the advantage of hierarchy that tags lack, and a cure for this problem

[Dani Zobin]

I'm not aware of a plugin that currently allows this functionality. Do
enlighten me if there is!

And by the way, Udo, I love your search plugin very much. It does exactly
what I expected a search to do in the Tidlly environment !

On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:19 AM, Dani Zobin  wrote:

> Hi
>
> A word of introduction: I came to Tiddly recently, during my search of a
> better tool to organize my content, which is usually text related
> to diverse areas.
> So this is what I'm after more than everything: effective ways to organize
> unstructured content.
> I basically feed very good about Tiddly for this aim.
>
> And to the topic.
>
> I'm sure many of us are coming  originally  from a background of folders
> and files to organize their content.
> Than, one day you figure out: this piece of content is related to more than
> only one category. And my data model (directories tree) is not expressive
> enough to reflect this fact.
> Than tags step in - you can tag a piece of content by many tags. If it only
> belongs to one - than great, tag it with only one tag. And here we have a
> more expressive data model. Great.
>
> But (!) on the way we lost something important . Hierarchical structure
> hides from us the vast majority of our content, exposing on each step only a
> small part of relevant content. This follows one of our biggest natural
> cognitive limitations: *attention*.
>
> *Tags, in the traditional form,fail to do so*. You have all your tags at
> one big pile.
>
> The idea of tags cloud tries to handle this problem, by showing the most
> used tags bigger. But this is a statistical categorization, not conceptual
> So here is a claim: we need a way to powerfully categorize tags themselves
> as well. And, be able to select them by categories whenever needing to
> specify a tag (when searching by tag or
> when applying a tag)
>
> I'll suggest here an initial list of requirements for a feature that
> follows the thoughts above
>
> *- Be able to categorize existing tags, by applying other tags (already
> possible in Tiddly) [example: apply the tag "vehicle" on the tag "car"]*
> *- When applying a tag, be able to create a new tag under an existing tag
> [example: create the tag "subaru" under the tag "car" (that himself is
> tagged by vehicle). Later, we'll be able to apply also "Japanese products"
> on "subaru" but in the time of creation it will be probably apropriate to
> limit categorization to one parent tag]*
> *
> *
> *In two situations we need to specify tags, and this search for tags: when
> applying a tag, when filtering by a tag*
> *In this situation we need to be able to search for tags, exactly as we're
> searching for content. Namely: by textual search - i.e. auto complete (a
> plugin for this by Udo already exists) and by tags*
> *So if I want to search info about a car that I recently saw and don't
> remember the brand, I will type (or better be also able to use a GUI):
> tags:car [here a dropdown will appear with all tags that are themselves
> tagged by car, i.e. brands of cars] and I can now choose: only filter by the
> main category - car, or continue and choose a subtag: Subaru. *
> *
> *
> *Whenever a Tidler is tagged by a tag, it will be automatically tagged
> also by all parent tags. So when tagging a tiddler by Subaru, it'll be
> automatically tagged also by "car" and by "Japanese product". (This can be
> implemented at the time of tagging, or at the time of retrieval. Should be
> transparent to the user.) *
> *
> *
> Some more general thoughts:
>
> Personally I feel that rarely more than 2 levels of hierarchy will be
> needed. Maybe 3. But this 2-3 level are absolutely needed. I felt this need
> many times since I started to insert content into my Tiddly some week ago
>
> My guess is that many may not feel strongly the need for the above, because
> they don't use so much tags.
> However,  in my opinion, there is a great chance, that those people would
> use much more tags, IF they  had an efficient way to order and retrieve
> them.
> And more tags used is more captured meaning, and better abilities of
> retrieval. I.e. more chances that you'll actually use what you wrote.
>
> Hey guys, I hope for a positive resonance, for this post of mine.
> I feel this is a key point, go ahead and share you thoughts.
>
> Dani
>
> P.S
>
> Generally I'm a web developer, and even if more server side oriented, I
> have some experience also with JS and JQuery.
> If my excitement with Tiddlly will continue to be at high level it
> currently is, there is a  good chance that I'll jump one day into the wag

[tw] content organization: the advantage of hierarchy that tags lack, and a cure for this problem

[Dani Zobin]

Hi

A word of introduction: I came to Tiddly recently, during my search of a
better tool to organize my content, which is usually text related
to diverse areas.
So this is what I'm after more than everything: effective ways to organize
unstructured content.
I basically feed very good about Tiddly for this aim.

And to the topic.

I'm sure many of us are coming  originally  from a background of folders and
files to organize their content.
Than, one day you figure out: this piece of content is related to more than
only one category. And my data model (directories tree) is not expressive
enough to reflect this fact.
Than tags step in - you can tag a piece of content by many tags. If it only
belongs to one - than great, tag it with only one tag. And here we have a
more expressive data model. Great.

But (!) on the way we lost something important . Hierarchical structure
hides from us the vast majority of our content, exposing on each step only a
small part of relevant content. This follows one of our biggest natural
cognitive limitations: *attention*.

*Tags, in the traditional form,fail to do so*. You have all your tags at one
big pile.

The idea of tags cloud tries to handle this problem, by showing the most
used tags bigger. But this is a statistical categorization, not conceptual
So here is a claim: we need a way to powerfully categorize tags themselves
as well. And, be able to select them by categories whenever needing to
specify a tag (when searching by tag or
when applying a tag)

I'll suggest here an initial list of requirements for a feature that follows
the thoughts above

*- Be able to categorize existing tags, by applying other tags (already
possible in Tiddly) [example: apply the tag "vehicle" on the tag "car"]*
*- When applying a tag, be able to create a new tag under an existing tag
[example: create the tag "subaru" under the tag "car" (that himself is
tagged by vehicle). Later, we'll be able to apply also "Japanese products"
on "subaru" but in the time of creation it will be probably apropriate to
limit categorization to one parent tag]*
*
*
*In two situations we need to specify tags, and this search for tags: when
applying a tag, when filtering by a tag*
*In this situation we need to be able to search for tags, exactly as we're
searching for content. Namely: by textual search - i.e. auto complete (a
plugin for this by Udo already exists) and by tags*
*So if I want to search info about a car that I recently saw and don't
remember the brand, I will type (or better be also able to use a GUI):
tags:car [here a dropdown will appear with all tags that are themselves
tagged by car, i.e. brands of cars] and I can now choose: only filter by the
main category - car, or continue and choose a subtag: Subaru. *
*
*
*Whenever a Tidler is tagged by a tag, it will be automatically tagged also
by all parent tags. So when tagging a tiddler by Subaru, it'll be
automatically tagged also by "car" and by "Japanese product". (This can be
implemented at the time of tagging, or at the time of retrieval. Should be
transparent to the user.) *
*
*
Some more general thoughts:

Personally I feel that rarely more than 2 levels of hierarchy will be
needed. Maybe 3. But this 2-3 level are absolutely needed. I felt this need
many times since I started to insert content into my Tiddly some week ago

My guess is that many may not feel strongly the need for the above, because
they don't use so much tags.
However,  in my opinion, there is a great chance, that those people would
use much more tags, IF they  had an efficient way to order and retrieve
them.
And more tags used is more captured meaning, and better abilities of
retrieval. I.e. more chances that you'll actually use what you wrote.

Hey guys, I hope for a positive resonance, for this post of mine.
I feel this is a key point, go ahead and share you thoughts.

Dani

P.S

Generally I'm a web developer, and even if more server side oriented, I have
some experience also with JS and JQuery.
If my excitement with Tiddlly will continue to be at high level it currently
is, there is a  good chance that I'll jump one day into the wagon of Tiddly
development.
I'm not sure however how soon  my time will allow this
So for now I'm throwing this idea here into the group, in order for it to
start getting feedback and  resonating with other peoples minds. I'll for
sure be very glad if someone likes it enough to implement

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Re: [tw] Re: Shortcut keys don't work on FF/windows

[Dani Zobin]

Thanks Eric, the shift did the difference

On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Eric Shulman  wrote:

> > For some reason, ctrl+enter and esc work for me, but not alt+f, aln+n,
> alt+j
> > for searching, new tiddler and new journal respectively
>
> Some browsers (FireFox) use ALT+SHIFT+letter for shortcut keys
>
> > Looked again at the documentation, and I suspect that this can be related
> to
> > the following "The macro needs to be used in an open tiddler (or the
> > MainMenu  or SideBar<
> http://www.tiddlywiki.com/>)
> > in order for the access keys to work"
>
> It means that, in order for a shortcut key to work, the macro that
> defines it must be actually *displayed* at the time (i.e., in an open
> tiddler, MainMenu, or SideBar).
>
> enjoy,
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[tw] Shortcut keys don't work on FF/windows

[Dani Zobin]

Hi

I've just became aware of shortcut keys in Tiddly.

For some reason, ctrl+enter and esc work for me, but not alt+f, aln+n, alt+j
for searching, new tiddler and new journal respectively

Looked again at the documentation, and I suspect that this can be related to
the following "The macro needs to be used in an open tiddler (or the
MainMenu  or SideBar)
in order for the access keys to work"

However, I don't 100 % understand what it means and what do I need to do.

Will appreciate your help

Dani

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Re: [tw] Re: Preventing Firefox from asking about "unsafe enhanced abilities"

[Dani Zobin]

Thanks guys

It works

This tool demands a lot of customization, but great that so much is ready
and people are willing to help

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> > Put Eric's Firefox Privilege Manager bookmarklet* in your
> > bookmarkstoolbar, click it and set your priviliges...
> >
> > *http://tiddlytools.com/#InstantBookmarklets
>
> Although I have a *bookmarklet* that loads the plugin on the fly
> (using the LoadRemotePlugin transclusion), I am not the author/
> maintainer of the actual plugin.
>
> For the official distribution version, please visit:
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Re: [tw] Re: ANN: TidQL - tiddler query language

[Dani Zobin]

"limiting the full-text search to
tiddlers with a certain set of tags AND a specific modifier AND from a
certain time period."

Well, this is exactly what YourSearch offers.
Or, is your accent on *gradually*? Such that there are expeccted performance
differences?

On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:36 PM, FND  wrote:

> > Can you - or anybody - point on features that this plugins have beyond
> > the feature set of YourSearch plugin?
>
> It's not really about features; TidQL is a very different approach.
> Instead of performing a full-text search, TidQL allows me to drill into
> my content base by gradually refining the search query based on
> arbitrary tiddler attributes  - e.g. limiting the full-text search to
> tiddlers with a certain set of tags AND a specific modifier AND from a
> certain time period*.
>
>
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> * I haven't actually implemented date comparisons yet, but will do so
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[tw] Preventing Firefox from asking about "unsafe enhanced abilities"

[Dani Zobin]

Hi,

Is there a way to tell FF that it's always ok to let TiddlyWiki save itself?

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Re: [tw] Re: Creating journals with full datetime stamp, rather than only a date

[Dani Zobin]

Thank you Mario,

this worked 100%



On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 2:39 AM, PMario  wrote:

> [[SideBarOptions]

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Re: [tw] Re: Creating journals with full datetime stamp, rather than only a date

[Dani Zobin]

Mario

Thank you, this definitely helps.

I need one more step however to make this functional: where do I edit the
code of the link on the right of  my default tiddly saying "create new
journal"

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 2:53 AM, PMario  wrote:

> Hope this helps
>
>
> http://docs.tiddlyspace.com/#%5B%5BnewJournal%20macro%5D%5D%20%5B%5BDate%20format%20reference%5D%5D
>
> -m
>
> On Apr 19, 12:17 am, Dani Zobin  wrote:
> > I figure out that TiddlyWiki has a link "create a journal" which allows
> me
> > to specify as the title the current date
> > However this only uses the date for the title, thus creating another
> journal
> > at the same date, will take me to editing the existing journal created
> > earlier at that date, rather than a new one
> > Using date and time instead of just date for the Tiddlers title would
> have
> > solved the issue.
> > I wonder if there is a simple way to do it. Anybody knows?
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Re: [tw] Re: ANN: TidQL - tiddler query language

[Dani Zobin]

FND,

Can you - or anybody - point on features that this plugins have beyond
the feature set of YourSearch plugin?

I remember you said that it's mainly about a syntax that you like, I wonder
however if you can point on feature differences that you are aware of

On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 9:40 PM, FND  wrote:

> > It's a nice way to specify a lot of different search parameters, buut
> > it's way to much to type.
>
> I'm aware - but since I use this only occasionally rather than on a
> regular basis, that makes no significant difference to me.
>
> It's worth noting that TidQL is essentially just a small JavaScript
> library, with no UI (the repurposed  search bar hardly counts). I
> created it for myself, to solve a rather specific problem.
>
> One could _imagine_ other plugins - e.g. something like Tagsplorer -
> building GUIs on top of TidQL, or provide a DSL simplifying the query
> language (e.g. `tag foo | title *lipsum* | modifier FND`)...
>
> > It would be nice if the macro could save a successful search
>
> That might be a nice extension - it's not something I intend to
> implement though.
>
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[tw] Creating journals with full datetime stamp, rather than only a date

[Dani Zobin]

I figure out that TiddlyWiki has a link "create a journal" which allows me
to specify as the title the current date
However this only uses the date for the title, thus creating another journal
at the same date, will take me to editing the existing journal created
earlier at that date, rather than a new one
Using date and time instead of just date for the Tiddlers title would have
solved the issue.
I wonder if there is a simple way to do it. Anybody knows?

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Re: [tw] Re: Encryption

[Dani Zobin]

Lyall, thanks.

"No point in searching the content, it's encrypted!" well, unless you
decrypt them before searching, and then there is a point
This is one of the reasons why I'm trying to get the EncryptedVault plugin
working for me: It encrypts all tiddles, then when you open, it decrypts
them, and than *all are searchable*.

On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Lyall  wrote:

> The title of the tiddly may be searchable, depending upon the options
> checked.
> No point in searching the content, it's encrypted!
> There is a macro which you can embed in your main menu, which will decrypt
> all tiddlers, prompting for passwords as required, if you have more than one
> password prompt.
> Encrypted tiddlers have the option of not even showing up in menus, unless
> you decrypt them using the decrypt all macro or load them by specific links.
> Unencrypted tiddlers can include encrypted tiddlers.
>
> Regarding the discussion with FND, it turned out that his plugin operated
> at a completely different and incompatible level to the one I wrote.
> Mine targets local tiddlywikis whereas his targets remotely hosted
> tiddlywikis using different events to decrypt/encrypt.
>
> Read the docs in the plugin. :-)
>
> Feel free to fiddle and provide feedback.
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Re: [tw] Re: Encryption

[Dani Zobin]

And,

Want to remind again my original post.

Does anybody has idea about EncyptedVault plugin. Contacting the author?
What can cause a difference in processing non English characters?

On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 3:49 PM, PMario  wrote:

> Hi Lyall,
> You had a discussion with FND in the dev group some time ago.
> Was there some progress?
> -m
>
> [1]
> http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywikidev/browse_thread/thread/82ca070af96353e0
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Re: [tw] Re: Encryption

[Dani Zobin]

Lyall,

Thank you for this

I guess that the amount of encrypted tiddlers varies vastly depending on the
sphere of usage, and usage patterns.

Are the encrypted tiddlers searchable once decrypted?
Let's take the following scenario: I use one encryption group, and want to
decrypt it uppon loading my tiddly wiki. Can I run one decryption command,
and then freely search all the tiddlers?


On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Lyall  wrote:

> Try
> http://www.remotely-helpful.com/TiddlyWiki/TiddlerEncryptionPlugin.html
>
> It takes a slightly different approach, in that it encrypts individual
> tiddlers that are tagged for encryption, but leaves the rest unencrypted.
> This is not to say that you can't encrypt all tiddlers, but in my
> experience, only a few tiddlers contain sensitive information whilst the
> rest are fairly generic.
>
> You can have different passwords for different groups of tiddlers by simply
> setting the 'Encrypt(passwordPrompt)' tag to have a different
> 'passwordPrompt'.
>
> I use it (as well as wrote it) daily.
>
> You can also distribute your tiddler, knowing that public tiddlers are
> searchable and visible but the 'encrypted' tiddlers are not.
>
> Keep us informed if you try it and whether it suits your needs. :)
>
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Re: [tw] Re: Filtering by tags

[Dani Zobin]

Bauwe,

Thanks!

This made the difference

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Bauwe Bijl  wrote:

> Hi Dani
>
> > I installed the plugin by copy-pasting all the parts of the code
>  herehttp://www.tiddlytools.com/#MatchTagsPlugin(you separate them with
> > spaces), into one tiddler, tagging it by systemConfig
> > I installed other plugins the same way, and they did work
> >
> > Any ideas?
>
> You probably didn't copy the entire plugin code this way (although I
> understand that it seems logic to just copy the visible sections with
> code...)
> You must copy all the source from this plugin (click view/edit and
> copy-paste all)...
> It works even better if you use the import function in the backstage
> (import from TiddlyTools url and select the single plugin from the
> list)this way you also copy the title of the plugin and the
> tags...in one action.
>
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[tw] Encryption

[Dani Zobin]

Hi group,

I'm in the process of setting my basic tool box, in order to reach a point
soon when I feel safe enough to trust Tiddly with my data

One must item in the toolbox is encryption.

I enjoyed very much the
EncryptedVaultPlugin
which
is symple, and exactly what I need. Unofortunately, it fails to decrypt my
Hebrew Tiddles which is a complete show stopper, taking me too seek other
alternatives.

I'd appreciate a response from anybody who uses encryption in practice in
his Tiddly, with a reference to the plugins he uses.
I'm particularly interested in the below questions:
- Is this a per Twiddle approach, or for the whole document
(like EncryptedVault above)
- Can I search encrypted Tiddles (of course, via decrypting them somehow.
This works great with the EncryptedVault approach, where you can decrypt all
the wiki at once, and then use)
And generally in anything you have to say about this.

Anybody knows how can I contact the author of the EncryptedVault?
Anybody has idea what can cause the problem with decrypting Hebrew (or why
the collation is not transparent to the algorithm), and possibly how can
this be fixed?

Thanks

Dani

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Re: [tw] Re: Filtering by tags

[Dani Zobin]

Also, and regardless, can I combine tag filtering and search?

Like find all tiddlers with the tags ((tagA or tagB) and tagC) and with the
"some text" in the contents. Is this possible?


On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Dani Zobin  wrote:

> Eric,
>
> I installed the plugins, but when reloading Tiddly, I receive the following
> error from the plugin : "Error: SyntaxError: missing ; before statement"
>
> I installed the plugin by copy-pasting all the parts of the code  here
> http://www.tiddlytools.com/#MatchTagsPlugin (you separate them with
> spaces), into one tiddler, tagging it by systemConfig
> I installed other plugins the same way, and they did work
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thank you!
>
> Dani
>
> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Dani Zobin  wrote:
>
>> Thanks Eric, going to try
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Eric Shulman  wrote:
>>
>>> > Can I filter by several tags? Like: give me all the tiddles with all
>>> > of the tags: tag1, tag5, tag17
>>>
>>> Try this:
>>>
>>> http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#MatchTagsPlugin
>>>
>>>
>>> enjoy,
>>> -e
>>> Eric Shulman
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Re: [tw] Re: Filtering by tags

[Dani Zobin]

Eric,

I installed the plugins, but when reloading Tiddly, I receive the following
error from the plugin : "Error: SyntaxError: missing ; before statement"

I installed the plugin by copy-pasting all the parts of the code  here
http://www.tiddlytools.com/#MatchTagsPlugin (you separate them with
spaces), into one tiddler, tagging it by systemConfig
I installed other plugins the same way, and they did work

Any ideas?

Thank you!

Dani

On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Dani Zobin  wrote:

> Thanks Eric, going to try
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Eric Shulman  wrote:
>
>> > Can I filter by several tags? Like: give me all the tiddles with all
>> > of the tags: tag1, tag5, tag17
>>
>> Try this:
>>
>> http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#MatchTagsPlugin
>>
>>
>> enjoy,
>> -e
>> Eric Shulman
>> TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
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[tw] Re: Encryption

[Dani Zobin]

"
Anybody has idea what can cause the problem with decrypting Hebrew (or why
the collation is not transparent to the algorithm), and possibly how can
this be fixed?
"
One more piece of data: I thought that maybe a Hebrew title creates the
problem. So no, an English title with Hebrew contents still leads to broken
nonsense (the contents) upon decryption

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Dani Zobin  wrote:

> Hi group,
>
> I'm in the process of setting my basic tool box, in order to reach a point
> soon when I feel safe enough to trust Tiddly with my data
>
> One must item in the toolbox is encryption.
>
> I enjoyed very much the 
> EncryptedVaultPlugin<http://visualtw.ouvaton.org/demo/EncryptedVaultPlugin.html>
>  which
> is symple, and exactly what I need. Unofortunately, it fails to decrypt my
> Hebrew Tiddles which is a complete show stopper, taking me too seek other
> alternatives.
>
> I'd appreciate a response from anybody who uses encryption in practice in
> his Tiddly, with a reference to the plugins he uses.
> I'm particularly interested in the below questions:
> - Is this a per Twiddle approach, or for the whole document
> (like EncryptedVault above)
> - Can I search encrypted Tiddles (of course, via decrypting them somehow.
> This works great with the EncryptedVault approach, where you can decrypt all
> the wiki at once, and then use)
> And generally in anything you have to say about this.
>
> Anybody knows how can I contact the author of the EncryptedVault?
> Anybody has idea what can cause the problem with decrypting Hebrew (or why
> the collation is not transparent to the algorithm), and possibly how can
> this be fixed?
>
> Thanks
>
> Dani
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [tw] Re: What's so special about Tiddly

[Dani Zobin]

On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Alex Hough  wrote:

> I think TW has changed the way I think. I arrived at TW after using
> many tools - mindmaps and Compendium (an open university hypertext
> mapping project)
>
Now this is very interesting. Can you say more on this?
Which aspects of TiddlyWiki changed the way you think? And how?

I myself seek this kind of change. Actually I came to this tool  (which I
haven't adapt yet in practice), because I was seeking exactly this
features , to organize my thought. (Extensive tagging, fast search,
wikilinks, and besides those - one bucket for all)

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Re: [tw] Re: What's so special about Tiddly

[Dani Zobin]

>
> For me its the ability to change TW without being a Computer Science
> specialist. Its about making my own tool to aid my own thinking.

Hey Alex, that's interesting. How that's? One of the prominent elements that
I noticed during my short time in this list, is that people here seem to be
JS/css developers, or half the way there,  as this is what needed to twist
the application (and it seems that everybody do it). Which is fine for me
personally, but I did notice to myself that this is probably not an app for
regular end users



> Also,
> I like community aspect, i read messages every day and  enjoy reading
> about developments. There is a soap opera angle for me -- hope this
> does not sound so strange.
>
> I think TW has changed the way I think. I arrived at TW after using
> many tools - mindmaps and Compendium (an open university hypertext
> mapping project)
>
> The fact that TW works in the browser makes it easy to cut and paste
> from the internet is a big plus.
>
> Alex
>
> On 7 April 2011 13:20, Jeremy Ruston  wrote:
> > I'd maybe emphasise an aspect that Eric Shulman mentioned: with
> > TiddlyWiki, you can control your own data much more directly than
> > using a service like WordPress. Many TiddlyWiki users value features
> > that emerge from this capability: the ability to keep documents
> > TiddlyWikis private, the ability to add TiddlyWikis to source code
> > control systems, the ability to email TiddlyWikis, or store them on a
> > USB stick. In contrast, online services are often easier to use, but
> > you have to trust the operators to look after your data. TiddlyWiki
> > users can feel confident that their TiddlyWiki documents will still be
> > accessible in the decades to come.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Jeremy
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 4:43 AM, Eric Weir  wrote:
> >>
> >> On Apr 6, 2011, at 7:50 PM, iain wrote:
> >>
> >>> I use a version of "No Brainer notes" - I have a master formatted
> >>> version which I copy every time I need a TW for note taking.
> >>
> >> I do the same with a slightly modified version of TWT-Blackicity-Lite,
> itself tweak of a TW-Treeview, both by Morris Gray. In addition to A
> Treeview menu it uses TiddlersBar and makes sophisticated use of tagging.
> >>
> >>
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> >> Decatur, GA  USA
> >> eew...@bellsouth.net
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Re: [tw] Re: How well Tidlly scales?

[Dani Zobin]

Michael, thanks a lot for sharing this valuable information.

What do you mean by loading time? The time it takes to load every Twiddle?
Or an initial time to load the file (in which case it's amazing to download
17 MB in 30 secs)

Have you considered trying your huge wiki on a different browser?  And see
if the saving problem persists? just for the sake of debugging this

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 10:23 PM, Michael.Tarnowski  wrote:

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Re: [tw] Re: How well Tidlly scales?

[Dani Zobin]

Mario,

Thanks a lot for taking the effort to write this (especially for me? I
prefer to beileve that yes :-) )

I'll use it as a base and maybe add some more twists

On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 8:06 PM, PMario  wrote:

> To create realistic tiddlers you can do the following.
>
> Get InlineJavaScriptPlugin [1]
> Create some LoremIpsum text [2]
>  copy as much text as needed into a tiddler named: LoremIpsum
>
> Copy the following script into a test tiddler
>
> !!! Turn off AutoSave option
>
> Change maxCnt to eg 20 and run it several times.
>
> Save your TW.
> And test the behaviour.
>
> It's quick and dirty but tested :)
> -m
>
> 
> var maxCnt = 1;   // <- change this
>
> var tid = store.getTiddler('LoremIpsum');
> var date, random, mId;
>
> for (var i = 0; i < maxCnt; i +=1) {
>  date = new Date();
>  random = Math.floor(Math.random()*1000);
>  mId = Crypto.hexSha1Str(date + random);
>
>  name = 'LoremIpsum (' + mId.substr(0,8) + ')';
>
> //  (title, newTitle, newBody, modifier, modified, tags, fields)
>  tags = ['tagIt'+i, 'asdf', 'test'];
>  store.saveTiddler( name, name, tid.text,
>tid.modifier, tid.modified,  tags,
> {} );
> }
>   .
>
> [1] http://www.tiddlytools.com/#InlineJavascriptPlugin
> [2] http://www.lipsum.com/feed/html
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Re: [tw] Re: Filtering by tags

[Dani Zobin]

Thanks Eric, going to try

On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Eric Shulman  wrote:

> > Can I filter by several tags? Like: give me all the tiddles with all
> > of the tags: tag1, tag5, tag17
>
> Try this:
>
> http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#MatchTagsPlugin
>
>
> enjoy,
> -e
> Eric Shulman
> TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
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[tw] What's so special about Tiddly

[Dani Zobin]

Hi,

During the last days on which I examine TiddlyWiki, I figure out that it's
considered a *unique* application. Citing a Eric from a recent post " It is
nothing like TiddlyWiki -- is anything? ", and I've heard more stuff like
this

My question, is, what is *so* special about Tiddly in your opinion?

For me, Tiddly sounds like: 1) tags 2) search 3) wikilinks 4) timeline
All of this Wordpress can provide, but probably much slower, which is  my
motivation to pursue TiddlyWiki

Dani

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Re: [tw] Re: How well Tidlly scales?

[Dani Zobin]

Hey guys,

Thank you for your responsiveness, these all are good inputs.

Disabling tags is not a good option for me however, as tags and fast search
are the main reasons for me to pursue tiddlywikki

I'm considering writing a script to test this by myself,
Where can I learn about the file format of tiddly (so I can create lots of
tiddles by editing this file with my script)?
How simple / complicated is this format?

Dani

On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 2:50 PM, rakugo  wrote:

> > I have used a tiddlywiki with over a 1000 tiddlers and that worked
> > ok.  I have also seen a guy's tiddlywiki which was 16mb in size.  He
> > said it worked reasonable well.  He had made a few speed tweaks such
> > as disabling the tags but overall it worked well.
> > Tags seem to be the only thing to cause problems with huge
> > tiddlywikis.
> >
> He also disabled animations which increased performance.
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