[tw] [TW5] questions about a node.js + dropbox setup

[Drew O'Bannon]

hello. Migratee from a certain other OSS personal wiki software here.

Basically, I'd like to ask a few things about the aforementioned setup,

The folder in question is shared between me and a friend. it's on 
D:/folder/Dropbox/Shared/Project/wikis/wikiname/MyTW
not the actual names, but is the exact path.

So far, I've noticed that the TW node.js makes is a folder with different 
files for it tiddles.
opening the tid files via Waterfox (64 bit FF) does nothing despite having 
tiddlefox installed.

Currently, I'm in the process of migrating stuff from the other wiki so I'm 
asking these questions in advance while i move the goods to TW .
So I apologize for any redundancy and/or captain-obvious level questions.

anyway:

   - given it's in dropbox, can I open it in a different computer WITHOUT 
   node.js?
  - likewise, can I edit it WITHOUT n.js?
   - WITHOUT n.js, could my friend edit/open it on his side?
   - IF i have dropbox on an android WITHOUT njs, can i edit/open the wiki 
   from it?
  - did a bit of research, seems that node.js can be installed on 
  android. but it ain't easy,
  - Whenever the server is up for editing (i.e. the localhost:port 
   opens the wiki) could I access it from a different computer/android device 
   connected under the same wifi network?
  - if so how?
   


   - If edit/open is not possible WITHOUT node.js. does the import feature 
   allow me to import only specific tiddles?
  - e.g. MyTW with only tiddle TableOfContents imported.
   - If I were to move to a singlefile wiki, how do i make sure I don't 
   lose data?(aside from the backup a lot advice in the website.)
  - if it's just "backing up a lot", is dropbox's versions enough?
   - also, If I were to uninstall node.js(i.e, if the NJS wiki can't be 
   opened without NJS), does it leave any stuff behind, i.e. the TW "plugin"?
   
Those are the questions for now. I'll be off moving stuff.

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[tw] [TW5] crap, now I broke my wiki!

[Drew O'Bannon]

>
> undefined:7
> ],
> ^
> SyntaxError: Unexpected token ]
> at Object.parse (native)
> at $tw.loadWikiTiddlers (C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\npm\
> node_modules\ti
> ddlywiki\boot\boot.js:1560:19)
> at $tw.loadTiddlersNode (C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\npm\
> node_modules\ti
> ddlywiki\boot\boot.js:1651:27)
> at $tw.boot.startup (C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\npm\
> node_modules\tiddly
> wiki\boot\boot.js:1757:7)
> at C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules\tiddlywiki\boot\
> boot.js:
> 1897:12
> at $tw.boot.decryptEncryptedTiddlers (C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\
> Roaming\npm\no
> de_modules\tiddlywiki\boot\boot.js:1366:2)
> at $tw.boot.boot (C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules\
> tiddlywik
> i\boot\boot.js:1895:11)
> at Object. (C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\npm\
> node_modules\tidd
> lywiki\tiddlywiki.js:13:10)
> at Module._compile (module.js:456:26)
> at Object.Module._extensions..js (module.js:474:10)
>


That's what appears in the commandline. it appeared all of a sudden when I 
was deleting a "plugin"(copy pasted from here 
. I manually added and 
manually deleted it's association in the tiddlywiki.info file.

did any of these two cause the error? how to fix it?

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[tw] Re: [TW5] crap, now I broke my wiki!

[Drew O'Bannon]

Ah. so basically, only the last doesn't get a comma? I'll keep that in mind.

anyway, how do I go about installing plugins like this one?

http://mptw.tiddlyspot.com/#InstantTimestampPlugin

the tiddlywiki page says to drag and drop the $ link. but doing that 
doesn't do anything in this case.(mostly because there doesn't seem to be a 
$link)

I may have misread tiddlywiki.com/#PluginMechanism though so I'll try doing 
it again manually.

On Monday, September 29, 2014 3:03:49 PM UTC+8, PMario wrote:
>
> eg:
>
> "plugins": [
> "tiddlywiki/cecily",
> "tiddlywiki/googleanalytics",
> "tiddlywiki/nodewebkitsaver",
> "tiddlywiki/github-fork-ribbon",
> "tiddlywiki/browser-sniff"
> ],
>
> if you remove "browser-sniff" you also need to remove the "," 
>
> so
>
> "plugins": [
> "tiddlywiki/cecily",
> "tiddlywiki/googleanalytics",
> "tiddlywiki/nodewebkitsaver",
> "tiddlywiki/github-fork-ribbon"   < the last element has 
> no comma. 
> ],
>
> see: 
> https://developer.mozilla.org/de/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Global_Objects/Array
> similar if you add  a plugin, you'll need some mor commas :)
>
> -mario
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] crap, now I broke my wiki!

[Drew O'Bannon]

Ah, OK.I'll mail him and wait a day before posting here again for 
suggestions.

thank you very much.

This is pretty much resolved, can this be closed? I'm not used to google 
groups, this is my first group... o_o

On Monday, September 29, 2014 6:20:28 PM UTC+8, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> On Monday, September 29, 2014 2:52:14 AM UTC-7, Drew O'Bannon wrote:
>>
>> anyway, how do I go about installing plugins like this one?
>> http://mptw.tiddlyspot.com/#InstantTimestampPlugin
>>
>
> Although there are quite a few new plugins being developed for TiddlyWiki 
> 5 (TW5) now that it is out of beta, InstantTimestampPlugin and many others 
> you will find, are for TiddlyWiki Classic (TWC).
>
> Due to major differences in the internal architecture, plugins written for 
> TWC cannot be used with TW5.  Of course, some of these TWC plugins are not 
> needed in TW5 because their functionality is specific to TWC or their 
> features are now fully supported within the new TW5 core code.
>
> Many TWC plugins *could* be re-written for TW5, but that will take some 
> time as there are quite a few of them (e.g., over 400 addons -- plugins, 
> scripts, themes, etc. -- just on my TiddlyTools.com site alone) and the 
> work to re-write them (which is likely at least several months or more of 
> full-time effort) needs to be prioritized and planned.  In addition, some 
> plugins are now "orphaned", as their original authors have moved on to 
> other projects.
>
> When you find a plugin you want for TW5, but it appears to be for TWC, the 
> best course of action is to
> first try to contact the plugin author and see if they have plans to 
> re-write it, and then post a message on this discussion forum to ask others 
> if there are native TW5 alternatives.
>
> enjoy,
> -e
> Eric Shulman
> TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
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[tw] [TW5] Rearranging open tiddlers... possible?

[Drew O'Bannon]

Already did a search with "rearranging/arranging" and it's not turning up 
anything in the TW site.

anyway. is it possible to rearrange open tiddlers?

like say I have Tiddler0 and several others are open, then i open Tiddler1 
from it and Tiddler6 from 1, which makes the order in the sidebar (and in 
the actual "page")go something like

Tiddler0
Tiddler1
Tiddler6
Tiddler4
Tiddler2

but I'm editing two tiddlers at the same time, say 0 and 4, so i have to 
scroll for a bit to get to either, so

Tiddler0
Tiddler4
Tiddler1
Tiddler6
Tiddler2

would be a more efficient way to order them for "side by side" editing. (i 
know it's a little obvious to explain, but I've learned from the many 
forums i've been to before that my wording tends to be ambiguous even if i 
think it isn't)

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Rearranging open tiddlers... possible?

[Drew O'Bannon]

That is actually what I normally do. rearranging them is just easier and 
less distracting, since i easily get off my train of thought.

as for the taglist plugin. that sounds like a good idea. i'll try that out.

On Monday, October 13, 2014 9:38:49 AM UTC+8, Richard Smith wrote:
>
> Hi Drew,
>
> Did you now that you can click the tiddler titles in the sidebar to fly up 
> and down the story list, instead of scrolling?
>
> Also, you might be interested in BJ's taglist plugin which allows for 
> re-orderable lists of tiddlers which have the same tag - you can't use it 
> with the story list but if you are editing the same tiddlers repeatedly, it 
> may be useful.
>
> http://bjhacks.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> Regards,
> Richard
>
> On Sunday, October 12, 2014 3:16:26 PM UTC+11, Drew O'Bannon wrote:
>>
>> Already did a search with "rearranging/arranging" and it's not turning up 
>> anything in the TW site.
>>
>> anyway. is it possible to rearrange open tiddlers?
>>
>> like say I have Tiddler0 and several others are open, then i open 
>> Tiddler1 from it and Tiddler6 from 1, which makes the order in the sidebar 
>> (and in the actual "page")go something like
>>
>> Tiddler0
>> Tiddler1
>> Tiddler6
>> Tiddler4
>> Tiddler2
>>
>> but I'm editing two tiddlers at the same time, say 0 and 4, so i have to 
>> scroll for a bit to get to either, so
>>
>> Tiddler0
>> Tiddler4
>> Tiddler1
>> Tiddler6
>> Tiddler2
>>
>> would be a more efficient way to order them for "side by side" editing. 
>> (i know it's a little obvious to explain, but I've learned from the many 
>> forums i've been to before that my wording tends to be ambiguous even if i 
>> think it isn't)
>>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Rearranging open tiddlers... possible?

[Drew O'Bannon]

OK. while that seems a bit overkill as a solution it's worth checking out. 
For now, I'll go with Richard Smith's workaround.

thanks.

On Sunday, October 12, 2014 3:28:15 PM UTC+8, PMario wrote:
>
> Hi Drew,
>
> Your description is clear. ... But there is no simple way to rearrange the 
> open tiddlers at the moment. 
>
> The tiddlywiki list widget works with a custom field, that's called: list. 
> see: http://tiddlywiki.com/#ListField
> The tiddler that's responsible for the open story list is: 
> http://tiddlywiki.com/#%24%3A%2FStoryList 
> If you have a look in the tiddler (i)nfo area at the "list" tab you can 
> see the order. 
> If you open the tiddler in edit mode you can see and edit the list field. 
> if you change the order of the tiddlers there and save the titddler, the 
> story view changes too. 
>
> There is no UI at the moment, so its a bit inconvenient. A drag and drop 
> interface is planned, but I think it's not very high on the todo list.
>
> -mario
>
>

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