Re: [tw5] Re: Streams 0.2 preview

[Michael Arndt]

Oh, and the CodeMirror option is also available in the settings; but the
aforementioned error is shown regardless of the choice

Am Fr., 15. Jan. 2021 um 10:45 Uhr schrieb Michael Arndt :

> Working fine so far, only issue I found: when I disable the CodeMirror
> plugin I get
>
> Error executing boot module $:/plugins/sq/streams/codemirror-tweak:
> "Cannot find module named '$:/plugins/tiddlywiki/codemirror/engine.js'
> required by module '$:/plugins/sq/streams/codemirror-tweak', resolved to
> $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/codemirror/engine.js"
>
>
> Am Do., 14. Jan. 2021 um 14:23 Uhr schrieb Saq Imtiaz <
> saq.imt...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Great, thank you @arun.
>>
>> On Thursday, January 14, 2021 at 2:14:41 PM UTC+1 arunn...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> @Saq
>>>
>>> Sure. I will post the feature request in the main streams thread.
>>> Feedback regarding the current beta version I will post in the GitHub
>>> issue <https://github.com/saqimtiaz/streams/issues/11> since it’s
>>> mostly about Codemirror integration.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 5:40 PM Saq Imtiaz  wrote:
>>>
>>>> @arun Off topic replies make it hard for me to organize and prioritize
>>>> feedback, and make efficient use of what little time I have to work on
>>>> Streams. Therefore, I need to do better at asking all of you to help out,
>>>> by keeping discussions compartmentalized.
>>>>
>>>> Since most of your post seems unrelated to the changes in the preview,
>>>> kindly move that feedback to the main Streams thread, and post here just
>>>> what is relevant to the new features in the preview.
>>>>
>>>> Otherwise at best I would lose time trying to find what is relevant
>>>> when I work on this, only to end up forgetting any feedback not related to
>>>> the new features.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Streams 0.2 preview

[Michael Arndt]

Working fine so far, only issue I found: when I disable the CodeMirror
plugin I get

Error executing boot module $:/plugins/sq/streams/codemirror-tweak: "Cannot
find module named '$:/plugins/tiddlywiki/codemirror/engine.js' required by
module '$:/plugins/sq/streams/codemirror-tweak', resolved to
$:/plugins/tiddlywiki/codemirror/engine.js"


Am Do., 14. Jan. 2021 um 14:23 Uhr schrieb Saq Imtiaz :

> Great, thank you @arun.
>
> On Thursday, January 14, 2021 at 2:14:41 PM UTC+1 arunn...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> @Saq
>>
>> Sure. I will post the feature request in the main streams thread.
>> Feedback regarding the current beta version I will post in the GitHub
>> issue  since it’s mostly
>> about Codemirror integration.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 5:40 PM Saq Imtiaz  wrote:
>>
>>> @arun Off topic replies make it hard for me to organize and prioritize
>>> feedback, and make efficient use of what little time I have to work on
>>> Streams. Therefore, I need to do better at asking all of you to help out,
>>> by keeping discussions compartmentalized.
>>>
>>> Since most of your post seems unrelated to the changes in the preview,
>>> kindly move that feedback to the main Streams thread, and post here just
>>> what is relevant to the new features in the preview.
>>>
>>> Otherwise at best I would lose time trying to find what is relevant when
>>> I work on this, only to end up forgetting any feedback not related to the
>>> new features.
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: New version of the Notebook theme available

[Michael Arndt]

Very nice theme, if I find some time I'll take a look how to make it
compatible with sq/Stories to have a second column on desktop :)

Am Mo., 14. Dez. 2020 um 14:24 Uhr schrieb Nicolas Petton :

> "odin...@gmail.com"  writes:
>
> Hi Odin,
>
> > I am running into a problem. I can't seem to import the whole plugin.
> After
> > importing the plugin, the list of tiddlers are showing in italics. Only
> > $:/core/ui/PageTemplate/sidebar
> > 
> is
> > imported, the rest are missing.
>
> You're right, something wrong, I'll have a look.
>
> Cheers,
> Nico
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Re: [tw5] Re: stroll drift tiddlyroam streams use cases?

[Michael Arndt]

I'm still trying to find my way, but what Birthe says resonates a lot with
me. I currently believe I want to do different things at different times.
Quick note taking and journaling, followed by a review process (like
"interstitials" after an hour or so), followed by a daily, weekly and
monthly review. At each review I would only look at "highlights" from the
review-level below it.
However the review would only be a selective process. At some point I'd
like to take those gathered points, ideas, insights and write
something that is akin to a continuous story. That's where I see
Notowritey for me. This duality is a reason why I'm attracted to TiddlyWiki
– I just didn't find that flexibility in a single tool elsewhere.

Am Do., 25. Juni 2020 um 15:18 Uhr schrieb Birthe C <
strikkeglad...@gmail.com>:

> Dave,
>
> I prefer using both Streams and Notowritey, because i cannot really
> decide. They are both very useful, but inspire in different directions.
> That might not be the same for other people, inspired in other directions.
> But you comment about cluttered feel, did you see in the bottom that you
> can chose not to show Editor Toolbar?
>
> Birthe
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Re: [tw5] Re: Preview: keyboard driven draggable bullets

[Michael Arndt]

Wow, thanks for the input. I’m still getting acquainted with TW (and CM) so
this is very helpful :) But please don’t feel pressured from my side, it’s
just a small hobby side-project for me 

Thanks
Michael

Saq Imtiaz  schrieb am Do. 25. Juni 2020 um 08:31:

> @Michael I am pressed for time these days but here is some info that might
> help.
>
> Navigation via keyboard shortcuts in Streams relies on the following:
>
> - every node has a view mode and an edit mode
> - when you navigate to a new node, a state tiddler is changed indicating
> which node should be in edit mode.
> - when that node switches to edit mode, the edit widget in it grabs focus.
>
> So the logical next step for you would be to try and use the state tiddler
> that changes, to move focus to the correct element.
>
>
> On Wednesday, June 24, 2020 at 6:38:14 PM UTC+2, Michael Arndt wrote:
>>
>> I played around with adding my RapidTiddler (CodeMirror based inline
>> editor) to Streams. It doesn't work perfectly yet, but it also isn't
>> completely broken like I imagined ;)
>>
>> https://rapidtiddler.netlify.app/
>>
>> Greetings!
>> Michael
>>
>> Am Mi., 24. Juni 2020 um 13:25 Uhr schrieb David Gifford <
>> dgif...@crcna.org>:
>>
> Yes, I tried shift-dragging in Stroll to a tiddler in the other column.
>>> Either nothing would happen or it would ask me if I wanted to 'import' it
>>> as untitled.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, June 24, 2020 at 2:17:36 AM UTC-5 saq.i...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> @David the plan is to make the context menu extensible via tags, so you
>>>> can add buttons and commands just by tagging a tiddler with the button code
>>>>
>>>> Have you tried shift+dragging recently? It should work, there was a bug
>>>> that was resolved a way back. Shift+drag is disabled when dragging to the
>>>> same parent as that seemed counter-intuitive to have the same node twice in
>>>> the same parent, but if there is a use case for it, can easily be allowed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, June 24, 2020 at 12:08:35 AM UTC+2, David Gifford wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is an idea for a feature, as if you didn't have enough to think
>>>>> about!
>>>>>
>>>>> On the menu, you could have an option to copy the title of the tiddler
>>>>> to the clipboard. That way you can paste it elsewhere and transcludify it.
>>>>>
>>>>> You have an option for clicking shift and dragging it, to copy it, but
>>>>> that wasn't working for me, and also it requires having both tiddlers open
>>>>> beforehand. By copying it to clipboard, you can add it to as many tiddlers
>>>>> as you want, by opening them and pasting. Just a thought.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, May 20, 2020 at 4:44:31 PM UTC-5 saq.i...@gmail.com
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Edited (09/06/2020)
>>>>>> This is in active development. Back up your wiki regularly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Demo:
>>>>>> https://saqimtiaz.github.io/sq-tw/streams.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Code:*
>>>>>> https://github.com/saqimtiaz/streams
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I'm under the weather I tend to prototype. Spent some time
>>>>>> reworking code from my eternally in progress task manager in an attempt 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> make it more general purpose, as a bullet list note taking tool that may 
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> of utility to others.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SB06s13tj8P3cC2UewnfzXf08UQ7jwYK/view?usp=drivesdk
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SLESm6OIfHsScwYePGOs5ce3o3wpQ0CO/view?usp=drivesdk
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - everything except the dragging is keyboard driven
>>>>>> - each bullet is a separate tiddler. Lots of different pros and cons
>>>>>> to this approach, but was ideal for a task manager.
>>>>>> - this is all in wikitext, no extra JS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Will post the file in the near future, a bit more clean up needed.
>>>>>> Don't expect a final product, but rather a pattern to follow that would
>>>>>> hopef

Re: [tw5] Re: Preview: keyboard driven draggable bullets

[Michael Arndt]

I played around with adding my RapidTiddler (CodeMirror based inline
editor) to Streams. It doesn't work perfectly yet, but it also isn't
completely broken like I imagined ;)

https://rapidtiddler.netlify.app/

Greetings!
Michael

Am Mi., 24. Juni 2020 um 13:25 Uhr schrieb David Gifford :

> Yes, I tried shift-dragging in Stroll to a tiddler in the other column.
> Either nothing would happen or it would ask me if I wanted to 'import' it
> as untitled.
>
> On Wednesday, June 24, 2020 at 2:17:36 AM UTC-5 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> @David the plan is to make the context menu extensible via tags, so you
>> can add buttons and commands just by tagging a tiddler with the button code
>>
>> Have you tried shift+dragging recently? It should work, there was a bug
>> that was resolved a way back. Shift+drag is disabled when dragging to the
>> same parent as that seemed counter-intuitive to have the same node twice in
>> the same parent, but if there is a use case for it, can easily be allowed.
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 24, 2020 at 12:08:35 AM UTC+2, David Gifford wrote:
>>>
>>> Here is an idea for a feature, as if you didn't have enough to think
>>> about!
>>>
>>> On the menu, you could have an option to copy the title of the tiddler
>>> to the clipboard. That way you can paste it elsewhere and transcludify it.
>>>
>>> You have an option for clicking shift and dragging it, to copy it, but
>>> that wasn't working for me, and also it requires having both tiddlers open
>>> beforehand. By copying it to clipboard, you can add it to as many tiddlers
>>> as you want, by opening them and pasting. Just a thought.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 20, 2020 at 4:44:31 PM UTC-5 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Edited (09/06/2020)
 This is in active development. Back up your wiki regularly.

 Demo:
 https://saqimtiaz.github.io/sq-tw/streams.html

 *Code:*
 https://github.com/saqimtiaz/streams

 ---

 When I'm under the weather I tend to prototype. Spent some time
 reworking code from my eternally in progress task manager in an attempt to
 make it more general purpose, as a bullet list note taking tool that may be
 of utility to others.


 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SB06s13tj8P3cC2UewnfzXf08UQ7jwYK/view?usp=drivesdk


 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SLESm6OIfHsScwYePGOs5ce3o3wpQ0CO/view?usp=drivesdk

 - everything except the dragging is keyboard driven
 - each bullet is a separate tiddler. Lots of different pros and cons to
 this approach, but was ideal for a task manager.
 - this is all in wikitext, no extra JS.

  Will post the file in the near future, a bit more clean up needed.
 Don't expect a final product, but rather a pattern to follow that would
 hopefully help anyone wanting to implement similar workflow.

 Cheers,
 Saq



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Re: [tw5] Re: Preview: RapidTiddler

[Michael Arndt]

Hi Tony

> Given your one line example in the video makes me ask can we use this to
edit fields as well?, it would be great to be able to build a list field if
tiddler titles from keyboard entry, as you example does (without the
additional text). People could use it to build a list of tiddlers that want
to include in an export from memory.
That should be possible and single line is my goal. However CodeMirror
doesn’t support that out of the box, it should work with some code though.

>
>- Could re enter a filter to select more than one title?
>
> You mean a list of Tiddlers? That would be a different mode in CM terms,
and each auto-complete invocation would likely only give a list where the
user can choose one entry. That is done in JS so if you know likely
combinations you could include that in the list.

>
>- Could we allow transclusions rather than links to be placed in the
>text (Perhaps not transcluding in your view editor)?
>
> great idea, I just implemented that today. (See /todo). Once rendered the
transclusions are not updated til something triggers a re-render though.
And I needed to edit the CM plugin a bit.

>
>- Could we provide an additional list or filter to the predictive
>process such as a list of macronames that the predictive text would insert
><>  (Perhaps not rendering in your view editor)?
>
> yes

>
>-
>- Perhaps the ability to toggle if transclusions or macros are
>rendered in this view/update mode.
>
> not sure about that one. Would need some control to do that and wire that
up wir the CM instance. Need to look further how that might work (first
time TW and first time CM user here )


Thanks for your interest!
Michael

>
>    -
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
> On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 12:09:04 AM UTC+10, Michael Arndt wrote:
>>
>> Hi, I'm new to TiddlyWiki. However, I missed something for very quickly
>> writing something down, so I played around a bit with the API and
>> CodeMirror.
>> What do you think?
>>
>> https://youtu.be/Y0_eJ-5hE5s
>>
>> Some details: it's a new Mode for CodeMirror and it is used through a
>> template to enable editing directly in view mode. The idea is to have it
>> always editable and always viewed as markup format. The arrows you see in
>> front of the Tiddler links are Codemirror widgets.
>> I could imagine adding something like /TODO or similar.
>>
>> I think it'll be nice paired with saqimtiaz's streams :)
>>
>> Greetings
>> Michael
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Preview: RapidTiddler

[Michael Arndt]

Made a little live demo deployment here https://rapidtiddler.netlify.app/


Am Mo., 22. Juni 2020 um 02:18 Uhr schrieb TW Tones <
anthony.mus...@gmail.com>:

> Michael,
>
> Looks interesting, thanks for contributing to the community.
>
> a few quick thoughts;
>
>- I believe others have worked on predictive links including in the
>standard editor, but these things tend to not work in code mirror so this
>would be a good complement.
>- It would be nice if such a feature could be toggled in the editor,
>exactly what we need sometimes, a possible description at other times.
>- It would be nice if the method could be used elsewhere, on an input
>field, etc...
>
> Given your one line example in the video makes me ask can we use this to
> edit fields as well?, it would be great to be able to build a list field if
> tiddler titles from keyboard entry, as you example does (without the
> additional text). People could use it to build a list of tiddlers that want
> to include in an export from memory.
>
> By the way my own convention is to call editing in the view template as
> update mode, ie one is updating the tiddler, not using the full tiddlywiki
> edit template. However users of a wiki without tiddlywiki knowledge may
> call it edit mode. What ever its called we designers and developers should
> make sure it is clear on our discussions.
>
> So then I speculate
>
>- Could re enter a filter to select more than one title?
>- Could we allow transclusions rather than links to be placed in the
>text (Perhaps not transcluding in your view editor)?
>- Could we provide an additional list or filter to the predictive
>process such as a list of macronames that the predictive text would insert
><>  (Perhaps not rendering in your view editor)?
>- Perhaps the ability to toggle if transclusions or macros are
>rendered in this view/update mode.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
> On Monday, June 22, 2020 at 12:09:04 AM UTC+10, Michael Arndt wrote:
>>
>> Hi, I'm new to TiddlyWiki. However, I missed something for very quickly
>> writing something down, so I played around a bit with the API and
>> CodeMirror.
>> What do you think?
>>
>> https://youtu.be/Y0_eJ-5hE5s
>>
>> Some details: it's a new Mode for CodeMirror and it is used through a
>> template to enable editing directly in view mode. The idea is to have it
>> always editable and always viewed as markup format. The arrows you see in
>> front of the Tiddler links are Codemirror widgets.
>> I could imagine adding something like /TODO or similar.
>>
>> I think it'll be nice paired with saqimtiaz's streams :)
>>
>> Greetings
>> Michael
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Preview: RapidTiddler

[Michael Arndt]

I didn’t want to use a modifier key because that would not work on mobile.
I agree that markup is limiting. My idea would be to use that format for
short notes and switch back to regular TiddlyWiki format for longer texts
where appropriate (in fact that’s why I came back to tiddly after looking
at a dozen other things)
I’ll put the code up later or tomorrow, am on the road now

Saq Imtiaz  schrieb am So. 21. Juni 2020 um 17:57:

> It might also be possible to superimpose the link on the text (or vice
> versa) and only trigger navigation if a modifier key is used.
>
> The big caveat of course is that the concept of always visible markup is
> only useful for simple text and not if using macros or widgets. Though even
> then it could make for an arguably better editing experience, even if not
> used in view mode.
>
> If you need any input or assistance, especially with regards to TW
> internals, please just ask.
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Re: [tw5] Re: Preview: RapidTiddler

[Michael Arndt]

Yes, I’m not keen on the arrows myself, it’s just a quick and dirty proof
of concept. It can by any inline html element.

Saq Imtiaz  schrieb am So. 21. Juni 2020 um 16:45:

> Hi Michael, thanks for sharing! At first blush it looks very interesting.
>
> I am wondering if we can be inventive and find a better alternative to the
> arrows though.. have some ideas but would need to take a peek :)
>
> Cheers,
> Saq
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> On Sunday, June 21, 2020 at 4:09:04 PM UTC+2, Michael Arndt wrote:
>>
>> Hi, I'm new to TiddlyWiki. However, I missed something for very quickly
>> writing something down, so I played around a bit with the API and
>> CodeMirror.
>> What do you think?
>>
>> https://youtu.be/Y0_eJ-5hE5s
>>
>> Some details: it's a new Mode for CodeMirror and it is used through a
>> template to enable editing directly in view mode. The idea is to have it
>> always editable and always viewed as markup format. The arrows you see in
>> front of the Tiddler links are Codemirror widgets.
>> I could imagine adding something like /TODO or similar.
>>
>> I think it'll be nice paired with saqimtiaz's streams :)
>>
>> Greetings
>> Michael
>>
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