[tw] newline syntax for QuickEdit replace plugin?

2009-09-17 Thread ccahua

Has anyone figured out how to find the newline character with
QuickEdit replace?

I'm really enjoying the productivity gains from Eric's
QuickEdit_replace plugin http://www.tiddlytools.com/#QuickEditPlugin
It's great having find and replace editing in the tiddler without
having to open up an external text editor.
But sometimes I replace new lines and I have yet to figure out what
the syntax is to put in the find field.

I've tried:
\n
\\n
'\n'
"\n"
\u0085
\\u0085




any ideas?

Best,
tony
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[tw] tiddlywiki: Toggling tags with CheckboxPlugin macro syntax to prevent recursion overflow?

2009-08-04 Thread ccahua

Hi,

Toggling tags works fine with ToggleTagPlugin, but I can't seem to get
it to work with CheckboxPlugin.

Despite the documentation in CheckboxPluginInfo, I'm finding that the
syntax for the checkbox target works in reverse (e.g., tiddlername|
tagname)

When I add this macro syntax to the ViewTemplate,

it works adding a checkbox to all tiddlers and toggles 'tag1' for
TestTiddler.

When I use , it too works this
time toggling tag1 for all tiddlers,
but I'm coming up with a "RangeError: Maximum call stack size
exceeded" on Safari and "InternalError: too much recursion" in Firefox
when I click on a WikiWord or reload the Tiddlywiki document I get a
Error in macro <> [1]

I think I'm incorrectly specifying the macro syntax improperly
specifying that the toggling should apply to all tiddlers by leaving
the tiddlername blank. The checkbox behavior works, but has erroneous
consequences.

Does anyone use/know of an alternative syntax for macro usage ?

Best,
tony

[1] I guess I'm getting a recursion error similiar to this thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki/browse_frm/thread/33706a22b6af79ca/d912c4068e7e338b?lnk=gst&q=group%3Atiddlywiki+recursion#d912c4068e7e338b
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[tw] Re: an open source version of the tiddlyspot server

2009-02-12 Thread ccahua

On Feb 12, 4:43 am, "cd...@peermore.com"  wrote:
> On Feb 12, 11:58 am, Daniel Baird  wrote:
>
> > Imagine if you could just download and unzip some PHP files, and
> > instantly have a tiddlyspot-type server running behind your corporate
> > firewall, on your school server, or just on the Mac Mini in the back
> > of your broom cupboard.
>
> This is very cool. I think it will be very useful to lots of people.
>
> At your leisure I think it would be great for you guys, Simon, Cool
> Cold, BidiX, Frank (of WikklyText) and me and Fred to have some chats
> about where, if anywhere, there are overlaps between TiddlySpot,
> TiddlySpeck, ccTiddly, TiddlyHome, WikklyText and TiddlyWeb. They all
> have slightly different goals and attitudes but I've never seen a
> single location that delineates all that. Might be useful.

As a user, this is all very exciting to see the mix of similiar
streams in the serverside river.
I'm really enjoying the TiddlyWeb metaphor of TiddlerExchange, so
hopefully your serverside discussions will lead to some fruitful cross
fertilization or thee holy grail of TiddlyUniverses.

As for the easy to install question, the unzip and go works for me!
A good example of ease is tweebox at http://gimcrackd.com/etc/src/.
Back in the day you could download php5, twee, and go forth on a usb
drive, but Chris Klimas has done a nice job of packaging up all that
story engine.

That ease of install (or having to explain how to other ppl) is what
makes TiddlyWiki so attractive and hopefully can be reflected on these
other serverside incarnations as well.

As for finding a non-local host, add another vote for the Pseudo's
suggestion of python + GoogleAppEngine like http://code.google.com/p/tiddlyhost/
under BSD

Silly Names:

TiddlyMote
SpeckMote
SpeckMode
Specky
SeeSpotTiddler
HTiddlyML (c)(tm)(r)

if that last name goes big, feel free to send remittance to tony
at ...

:-)

Best,
tony

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[tw] Re: Tiddler links in Freemind ImageMap

2009-01-25 Thread ccahua

On Jan 25, 12:44 pm, skye riquelme  wrote:
...Firefox blocks it as an unauthorised
> popup. And it won´t let me unblock myself. Seems I can only authorise/
> unblock "http://..."-type addresses...and not a local file!
>
> Any ideas! how to let freemind open the local tiddler!!!
>
Hi Skye,

I'm not sure I follow, but Freemind supports tiddler permalinks when I
have my tiddlywiki under local file://

You can paste the permalink into the node URL. Clicking the Freemind
node will launch the browser under file://  (example) 
file:///Users/me/wiki.html#Tiddler

In the past for lookup, I've embedded freemind mindmaps into tiddler's
using juanpedro's flash browser for Freemind
http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Flash_browser

Presumably, the resulting node url as rendered in flash in a tiddler
should open the local tiddler permalink referenced therein. I got
dizzy typing that.

I haven't tried that hotspot mapping with url, sounds cool. Thanks for
sharing.

Best,
tony
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[tw] Re: Maximum number of Tiddlers?

2009-01-22 Thread ccahua

On Jan 22, 4:38 pm, "ti...@timon.info"
 wrote:

>
> After having readhttp://www.tiddlywiki.org/wiki/Performance_IssuesI
> realize that several MB are already a lot for TiddlyWiki and
> converting my current content would result in a huge unusable thing.
> Managing a lot of content efficiently probably really takes some
> server software that can do preprocessing and caching and ideally
> includes a full fledged database. Right now I think I will have to
> leave my current content on my private machine at home. At work I'll
> start with a blank TiddlyWiki and hope I'll get by with it for a
> while, before it grows to large. Hopefully I have a better idea by
> then 8-)
>

Hi Timon,

I too have confronted the same issue and I don't know how Eric at
TiddlyTools.com does it- dense and rich but still loads quick!

Nevertheless here are some observations of my experiments on scale:

I've successfully tested TiddlyWiki for a knowledge base I help
coordinate and found that I had to offload the assets to the filesytem
and use TW more as a frontend viewer than a single all encompassing
repository in order to contain the scale issue -

So that large topics of styled content are contained in iframes on a
shared or local drive as in tiddler body:




Images are handled in the same way:
[img(480px,auto)[file:///path/to/your/image]]

It was under 3MB covering 1000's of topics and associated images along
with an issue log. But nothing like 17MB!

Judicious use of an archival method to further segregate old from new
content also helps.

I've used this effective combo: ToDoTogglePlugin with CheckboxPlugin
along with the essentials from Eric's TiddlyTools: Import and Export
Tiddlers Plugins to manage that archival process.

Udo's YourSearch along with his other plugins are also excellent for
culling.

I also tried using a flat file system with the data and going csv with
the DataListPlugin at the http://baggr.tiddlyspot.com/ which leverages
Udo's DataTiddlerPlugin. It's great for long list lookups but
ultimately stayed with the tiddler as unit KISS route as is much more
familiar UI.

Before that I did do a taste of running php5 locally then used BidiX's
upload plugin http://tiddlywiki.bidix.info/#[[UploadPlugin%204.1]] for
a flavor of local serverside, but abandoned once I got proof of
concept.

Finally, I've been experimenting with TiddlyWeb (AKA mother of all
server sides) since it currently uses a local text store where
tiddlers are file revisions in folders. You can make recipes from bags
of tiddlers and mix and match rolling your own collection. The thing
about TiddlyWeb is that my puny brainz doesn't have to know how to
configure Apache or some other server magic, but sounds like you have
the smart for that and serverside is not an issue for you. Chris Dent
http://peermore.com/tiddlyweb/dist/ and FND works with TiddlyWeb.

So there are options if you want to stay local, but as we've seen over
the years, scale is an important question when working lots of stuff
in TW.
And it sounds like you've acumulated a lot of stuff, so a small army
of TWs may be needed with a good workflow! :-)

hth

Best,
tony
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[tw] Re: TiddlyWeb latest experience

2009-01-20 Thread ccahua

On Jan 20, 2:43 pm, EduardWagner  wrote:
> Hi, we do have a lot of recipes now
> and each of them has it's own workspace bag, where we put the
> corresponding TiddlyWebConfig entry "server.workspace": "bags/
> workspace"
> We don't have a TiddlyWebConfig in the system bag any more and so only
> one is loaded with the recipes bags.
> I don't now if there is a feature for multiple workspaces right now,
> there is a tiddlersourceplugin, but i don't now if it's obsolete now.

Whew, I think I finally figured out a workaround to save to different
workspaces thanks to Eduard and FND's advice of either having a new
tiddler macro set to the target bag or adding a custom config in the
local bag: above and
http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWikiDev/browse_thread/thread/94cdb9613200687c#

with a slight hiccup of having to restart twanager server with the
first save still going to the common bag.

Basically I chose the latter as suggested: there needs to be a local
config in the new bag (not system, not common) that will override the
TiddlyWebConfig in the system bag.

I copied the TiddlyWebConfig from the system bag into 2 test bags: foo
and bar

Then I changed config.defaultCustomField,  "server.workspace": "bags/
common" to "bags/foo" and "bags/bar" respectively.

so
$ less store/bags/foo/tiddlers/TiddlyWebConfig/1 should have
"server.workspace": "bags/foo"
and
$ less store/bags/bar/tiddlers/TiddlyWebConfig/1 should have
"server.workspace": "bags/bar"

more importantly in the system bag
$ less store/bags/system/tiddlers/TiddlyWebConfig/1 will be
"server.workspace": "bags/common"

and if I'm reading correctly saving default to 'default' bag! -http://
www.tiddlywiki.org/index.php?title=Dev_talk:TiddlyWeb&action=edit§ion=2

I made the usual recipe of foo recipe = system + foo bag with imported
empty.html and bar recipe = system + bar bag with imwiki empty.html

I then started the server and created a foo tiddler from the foo
recipe and saved

Unfortunately when I checked the foo bag (not foo recipe) I didn't see
my foo tiddler. It got saved to the common bag even though I went on
the command line and edited it to bag/foo:

2009-01-20 16:23:06,707 INFO 127.0.0.1 - GUEST [20/Jan/
2009:16:23:06 ] "PUT /bags/common/tiddlers/FooTiddler?nocache
=0.07761599014055898 HTTP/1.1" 204 - "http://127.0.0.1:8080/recipes/
foo/tiddlers.wiki"

2009-01-20 17:17:27,651 INFO 127.0.0.1 - GUEST [20/Jan/
2009:17:17:27 ] "PUT /bags/common/tiddlers/FooTiddler?nocache
=0.34582476555036457 HTTP/1.1" 204 - "http://127.0.0.1:8080/recipes/
foo/tiddlers.wiki"

So I restarted the server and tried creating a bar tiddler in bar
recipe

bingo it worked as shown PUT to bags/bar

2009-01-20 17:18:06,104 INFO 127.0.0.1 - GUEST [20/Jan/
2009:17:18:06 ] "PUT /bags/bar/tiddlers/BarTiddler?nocache=0.
5101406414486139 HTTP/1.1" 204 - "http://127.0.0.1:8080/recipes/bar/
tiddlers.wiki"  NT

Then I tried foo again, bingo that worked with PUT to bags/foo:

2009-01-20 17:20:16,963 INFO 127.0.0.1 - GUEST [20/Jan/
2009:17:20:16 ] "PUT /bags/foo/tiddlers/FooTiddler?nocache=0.
9306065403541731 HTTP/1.1" 204 - "http://127.0.0.1:8080/recipes/foo/
tiddlers.wiki"  NT

another bar tiddler just in case, I'm not going crazy:

2009-01-20 17:22:01,646 INFO 127.0.0.1 - GUEST [20/Jan/
2009:17:22:01 ] "PUT /bags/bar/tiddlers/BarTiddler2?nocache=0
.7775235943857574 HTTP/1.1" 204 - "http://127.0.0.1:8080/recipes/bar/
tiddlers.wiki"  NT

Maybe change the title to Bar (testing save to existing tiddler):

2009-01-20 17:22:08,396 INFO 127.0.0.1 - GUEST [20/Jan/
2009:17:22:08 ] "PUT /bags/bar/tiddlers/SiteTitle?nocache=0.4
650678830220858 HTTP/1.1" 204 - "http://127.0.0.1:8080/recipes/bar/
tiddlers.wiki"  NT 5


And another foo tiddler 2
2009-01-20 17:23:13,663 INFO 127.0.0.1 - GUEST [20/Jan/
2009:17:23:13 ] "PUT /bags/foo/tiddlers/FooTiddler2?nocache=0
.1970655670193442 HTTP/1.1" 204 - "http://127.0.0.1:8080/recipes/foo/
tiddlers.wiki"  NT

And lastly title change:
2009-01-20 17:23:19,600 INFO 127.0.0.1 - GUEST [20/Jan/
2009:17:23:19 ] "PUT /bags/foo/tiddlers/SiteTitle?nocache=0.0
2641447881101089 HTTP/1.1" 204 - "http://127.0.0.1:8080/recipes/foo/
tiddlers.wiki"  NT


So it works but is a bit of a kludge as the user has to go on the
command line and edit the TiddlyWebConfig manually ie save was set to
common bag.

The only hiccup is that the initial save for some reason saves to the
common bag. I'll keep testing.

Sorry for all the long posts, but it helps to refer back when i need
to test again on the next iteration, hopefully beta!
I would have thrown these notes to the wiki, but i don't think it is
useful as tiddlyweb is still evolving.

Thanks again for all the input, it was a good learning experience

Best,
tony




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[tw] Re: TiddlyWeb latest experience

2009-01-20 Thread ccahua

On Jan 20, 12:00 pm, ccahua  wrote:
> On Jan 20, 9:49 am, FND  wrote:

>
> Do I add this custom line (server.workspace": "bags/myBag") in
> TiddlyWebConfig/config.defaultCustomFields
> for every new bag? or do I add new set of config.defaultCustomFields
> witht the custom line?
>
> Basically, what do I change in order to save in more than 1 bag, ie
> common, bag1, bag2, bag3?
...
>
> Now i just have to find out how to set the TiddlyWebConfig/
> config.defaultCustomFields so I can save in more than one bag

A bit more checking...

I tested again with another bag and I think the server needs a restart
in order to save after the TiddlyWebConfig save.

For some reason twanager is picking up the old server.workspace custom
config in revision 1. Only after a restart of the server, does the
custom config in TiddlyWebConfig/revision 2 work and tiddlers are
saved to the new bag.

This was apparent when I tried to save to a new journal tiddler and
found that the tiddler saved to bag2/tiddlers/20 January 2009
was instead saved to bag1/tiddlers/20 January 2009 even though
server.workspace": "bags/bag2"

After I restarted the server, twanager correctly PUTS to the new bag.

For multiple workspaces...

Ha! I thought I could get away with just adding more workspaces to
TiddlyWebConfig:

config.defaultCustomFields = {
"server.type": "tiddlyweb",
"server.host": store.getTiddler("TiddlyWebConfig").fields
["server.host"],
"server.workspace": "bags/bag1"
"server.workspace": "bags/bag2"
};

Got a good save to bag1, but then I got a PluginManager error when I
tried to open bag2. Oh well.
I guess I don't understand how TiddlyWeb separates the custom
configs. :-\

Perhaps there is an issue if there are identical named tiddlers in
different bags but the TiddlyWebConfig in the System bag is the source
of all recipes?

Best,
tony
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[tw] Re: TiddlyWeb latest experience

2009-01-20 Thread ccahua



On Jan 20, 9:49 am, FND  wrote:
> > I can confirm this. I thought we had addressed this issue, but it seems
> > it's not resolved entirely.
>
> There was a small bug in TiddlyWeb's ETag handling.
> Chris has fixed this and released v0.9.7:
>      http://tiddlyweb.peermore.com/dist/CHANGES
>
> -- F.


>From FND Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:48:44 +
>However, we've recently changed the understanding of workspace so you
>don't have to worry about the TiddlyWeb-specific server.bag anymore.
>So instead of that, you should use the following now:
 "server.workspace": "bags/myBag"

Thank you all, Chris, FND, Eduard.. one more question:

Do I add this custom line (server.workspace": "bags/myBag") in
TiddlyWebConfig/config.defaultCustomFields
for every new bag? or do I add new set of config.defaultCustomFields
witht the custom line?

Basically, what do I change in order to save in more than 1 bag, ie
common, bag1, bag2, bag3?


>Does that help?

yes, but, a wee hiccup (FYI)

For 1 new bag, I'm able to save to existing tiddlers and save new
tiddlers to an imported bag, hooray!

but the first time I tried to save didn't work. Subsequent saves now
work which is wonderful.
(I love the automatic creation of the tiddlyweb.log btw.)

Here's what i did:

I installed 097 and was successful in saving to existing tiddlers in a
new bag (not common) but not saving new tiddlers.

1 made new instance
2 made new bag, w3c
3 imported this test tiddlywiki: 
http://osmosoft.com/~psd/TiddlyWikiDeviceAccess/
4 made new recipe, 'test' = system + w3c
5 Test saving to existing tiddler - started the server and
successfully saved to existing tiddler to the common bag but not a new
tiddler.

6 Test saving to new tiddler: Then I tried changing the
"server.workspace": "bags/common" to "server.workspace": "bags/w3c"

as follows:

go into recipe as tiddlers.wiki
http://127.0.0.1:8080/recipes/test/tiddlers.wiki

go to the backstage, TiddlyWebConfig
change the field to "server.workspace": "bags/w3c"

you should get a saved dialog, something like "TiddlyWebConfig saved
successfully"

I make a new tiddler and get a successful save dialog. looks good
right?

But when i go back into the 'common' bag, all the new saved tiddlers
are there even after changing the server.workspace to bags/w3c as
shown in the log:

Looking at the tiddlyweb.log shows a PUT to the TiddlyWebConfig
(changing the server.workspace to bags/w3c instead of bags/common,
creating revision 2 in TiddlyWebConfig):

2009-01-20 09:20:07,028 INFO 127.0.0.1 - GUEST [20/Jan/
2009:09:20:07 ] "PUT /bags/system/tiddlers/TiddlyWebConfig?no
cache=0.4641619112542664 HTTP/1.1" 204 - "http://127.0.0.1:8080/
recipes/test/tiddlers.wiki" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Wi
ndows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.0.5) Gecko/2008120122 Firefox/3.0.5
Ubiquity/0.1.5"

This entry shows a PUT of the new tiddler to common bag (not w3c) even
though I made a new revision 2 above?!

2009-01-20 09:23:09,466 INFO 127.0.0.1 - GUEST [20/Jan/
2009:09:23:09 ] "PUT /bags/common/tiddlers/test%20saving%20to
%20the%20test%20recipe?nocache=0.7691834834896291 HTTP/1.1" 204 -
"http://127.0.0.1:8080/recipes/test/tiddlers.wiki"; "Mo
zilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.0.5) Gecko/
2008120122 Firefox/3.0.5 Ubiquity/0.1.5"

A bit later, Tiddlyweb is saving fine to the w3c bag:

2009-01-20 11:21:09,502 INFO 127.0.0.1 - GUEST [20/Jan/
2009:11:21:09 ] "PUT /bags/w3c/tiddlers/SavingTest?nocache=0.
1053583499357923 HTTP/1.1" 204 - "http://127.0.0.1:8080/recipes/test/
tiddlers.wiki" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT
 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.0.5) Gecko/2008120122 Firefox/3.0.5 Ubiquity/
0.1.5"
 2009-01-20 11:24:43,573 INFO 127.0.0.1 - GUEST [20/Jan/
2009:11:24:43 ] "PUT /bags/w3c/tiddlers/AnotherSavingTest?noc
ache=0.4253931028008009 HTTP/1.1" 204 - "http://127.0.0.1:8080/recipes/
test/tiddlers.wiki" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win
dows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.0.5) Gecko/2008120122 Firefox/3.0.5
Ubiquity/0.1.5"

Journal tiddlers work too:
2009-01-20 11:26:04,825 INFO 127.0.0.1 - GUEST [20/Jan/
2009:11:26:04 ] "PUT /bags/w3c/tiddlers/20%20January%202009?n
ocache=0.4119574336488333 HTTP/1.1" 204 - "http://127.0.0.1:8080/
recipes/test/tiddlers.wiki" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; W
indows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.0.5) Gecko/2008120122 Firefox/3.0.5
Ubiquity/0.1.5"

Now i just have to find out how to set the TiddlyWebConfig/
config.defaultCustomFields so I can save in more than one bag

Best,
tony
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[tw] Re: tiddlyweb installation

2009-01-12 Thread ccahua

On Jan 12, 9:48 am, FND  wrote:

> As you've guessed, it's a missing feature in the TiddlyWeb adaptor for
> now. It's nothing massively complicated - I simply haven't gotten around
> to it yet.
>
> > creating a new tiddler is't working! I think the necessary fields for
> > syncing are missing
>
> That sounds likely.
>
> However, a few weeks ago we made TiddlyWeb instances create a "common"
> bag by default, and the TiddlyWebConfig plugin then sets the respective
> variable (config.defaultCustomFields) accordingly.
>
> So if that bag and all the latest plugins (TiddlyWebAdaptor,
> TiddlyWebConfig, ServerSideSavingPlugin) are present, everything should
> be working fine.
> Maybe it's just that the "common" bag is missing because you'd created
> your instance before we implemented this change?


I'd like to piggyback on this thread and post some observations to
share in the 'saving' issue pool.

My question is given that the default recipe is set to "server.bag":
"common", is there a way to save to a bag other than common, ie imwiki
to new bag?

I was happy to be able to save to the default recipe under 0.0.9.3 so
I haven't tested 095 when it came out. Also I wasn't able to save to a
bag other than common (python2.5)

Now upgrading to 095 I can't save anymore unless I use an old instance
made in 093 using ServerSideSavingPlugin v3.2

I failed this test that v095 saves to default recipe where
{{{config.defaultCustomFields = {
"server.bag": "common"};
}}}
and this test that v095 saves to different bag
*made new instance
*made new bag
*imported existing tiddlers into new bag
When the "server.bag": "common" is set to , 
http://127.0.0.1:8080/recipes//tiddlers.wiki has losted editing capability with the
chkHttpReadOnly is set to true and was only accessible from
AdvancedOptions as the backstage area disappeared.
Unchecking the chkHttpReadOnly to false to regain editing mode
persisted after a relaunch but subsequently modifying an existing
tiddler resulting in the usual 'You must save this tiddler.. " dialog

So conclusion, I was unable to save to a different bag other than
'common' in 093 and 095.

Under 095, I was able to change and save back in the ServerConfig
tiddler to "server.bag": "common" but unable to save again in general,
unlike 093.

Only successful save was to change the server.bag custom field to
'wiki' and back to 'common' but unable to save to SiteTitle nor
GettingStarted, nor new tiddler :-(

As evident in the server log and a $ls -R showing 1, 2 and 3 revisions
of ServerConfig:
{{{
127.0.0.1 - GUEST [12/Jan/2009:16:59:22 ] "PUT /bags/system/tiddlers/
ServerConfig?nocache=0.6353539275179345 HTTP/1.1" 2
04 - "http://127.0.0.1:8080/recipes/default/tiddlers.wiki"; "Mozilla/
5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.0.5)
Gecko/2008120122 Firefox/3.0.5 Ubiquity/0.1.4"
}}}

I tried doing a $twanager update but that still didn't let me save
under 0.9.5

I tried making a new instance but that too didn't work.

I saved my old instance from 093 and double checked was able to save
again. whew!

ran a diff between ServerSideSavingPlugin 3.2 and 3.3 and the new
addition was this line: {{{readOnly = false; //# enable editing over
HTTP}}}

The thing I don't get is why I can save under the instance in 093 but
not the new instance made from 095. I guess ServerConfig is not the
only plugin that needs editing, but a $ grep -R "common" * in my
instance doesn't show any other tiddler with the specific
"server.bag": "common" parameter.

Eduard had saving success with 095, so I'll keep checking.

Anyway, it is still nice to save under v093 and i await the beta
launch :-)

Best,
tony
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