[tw] Re: Raphael library update?

2010-02-23 Thread shavinder
In a minified file all the needless spaces are removed in order to
make them lightweight. One can minify any javascript code. For example
here:
http://jscompress.com/

You can download the minified version of Raphael from its own site
from Top Right Link. Its 57 Kb: http://raphaeljs.com/

On Feb 23, 4:37 pm, Eno tg...@ms22.hinet.net wrote:
 Hi,

 what is minified version, how do you create it?

 can you provide a tiddlywiki for me to import it along with the
 examples ?

 best regards,

 Eno

 On 2月23日, 下午3時12分, PMario pmari...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi,

  You can take the minified version of raphael, put it into a tiddler
  and tag it systemConfig. Should work immediately. The older version
  has a different syntax. It is not compatible with the demos at
  tiddlytools. As far as I have seen also the internal structure (svg)
  has been changed since 0.6.3

  regards m

  On Feb 23, 3:01 am, Eno tg...@ms22.hinet.net wrote:

   I'm playing around on tiddlywiki graphics, getting acquainted to both
   eric's raphael library and process.js, which I mixed them up in a
   tiddlywiki well.

   Some drawbacks are that both of them were not kept up to date with
   current versions, e.g. Raphael library is now 1.3.1, but eri's is
   ported from v. 0.6.3.
   and process.js is now up to v0.5.0.

   I tried to replace the new one in RaphaelPlugin tiddler but type error
   noted. more work needed to be done to make it run, I guessed.

   Hope to see they can be updated as new versions available.

   best reguards,

   Eno

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[tw] Re: Change label for link returned by tag macro

2010-02-22 Thread shavinder
Toby,

Don't worry about its being alpha etc, I just wanted to use your pearl
theme. I thought its subtle colors would suit a poem doc. There is no
important data in there yet.

I like your theme and colors, this one as well as the GTD you did. I
cannot for my life create something decently good looking :-)
When you get free in some holidays you should indulge more in theming
stuff, you are good at this.

On Feb 22, 3:44 pm, Tobias Beer beertob...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Holy sh...

 You're using my pearl theme? Wow, beware. That's been a total longterm
 alpha, so far... haven't done a thing to it for ages and never gotten
 around finishing it (if that were a valid undertaking) either.

 However, right now, I can't really see where such a specific problem
 should arise with respect to the tag-macro. Can't think of any changes
 I made to the core tag-macro. Maybe there's some installed plugin (-
 playground of mine?!?) that interferes with it...

 I see if I can reproduce your problem and get to a solution.

 Looks cute though... being in use!!!    ;-)

 Tobias.

 On 21 Feb., 16:03, shavinder shavinderpalsi...@gmail.com wrote:

  On Feb 21, 7:14 pm, cmari cema...@gmail.com wrote: Does
   tag 'All Poems' 'All Poems'
   do what you want?
   cmari

  It does not, cos the first parameter needs to be the tag which is to
  be searched.

  I just found out that the problem is specific to the particular TW
  document I am using(I am using pearl theme by tobi  
  http://goto.bplaced.net/index.html).
  When I try it on a fresh blank tiddlywiki it works fine!

  I ll try and find out more.

   On Feb 21, 7:00 am, shavinder shavinderpalsi...@gmail.com wrote:

If one writes this: tag Poem 'All Poems'
The text of the link/button should change to the second parameter ie
All Poems
It seems something is wrong because it is not happening here:

   http://selectedpoems.tiddlyspot.com/#MainMenu

Any ideas why? The version of the TW document is 2.5.3

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[tw] Re: Change label for link returned by tag macro

2010-02-22 Thread shavinder
..
I just responded on this link but something must have gone wrong cos i
cannot see my response on this thread. Hence I am repeating it. Please
excuse.
..

Hi Toby,
Don't worry about pearl being alpha or anything. There are very few
themes around which I feel like using and I found pearl's subtle
colors very nice.

You are good at themeing Toby, I liked pearl as well as the GTD you
did. Indulge in more themes in your holidays when you have them.


On Feb 22, 3:44 pm, Tobias Beer beertob...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Holy sh...

 You're using my pearl theme? Wow, beware. That's been a total longterm
 alpha, so far... haven't done a thing to it for ages and never gotten
 around finishing it (if that were a valid undertaking) either.

 However, right now, I can't really see where such a specific problem
 should arise with respect to the tag-macro. Can't think of any changes
 I made to the core tag-macro. Maybe there's some installed plugin (-
 playground of mine?!?) that interferes with it...

 I see if I can reproduce your problem and get to a solution.

 Looks cute though... being in use!!!    ;-)

 Tobias.

 On 21 Feb., 16:03, shavinder shavinderpalsi...@gmail.com wrote:

  On Feb 21, 7:14 pm, cmari cema...@gmail.com wrote: Does
   tag 'All Poems' 'All Poems'
   do what you want?
   cmari

  It does not, cos the first parameter needs to be the tag which is to
  be searched.

  I just found out that the problem is specific to the particular TW
  document I am using(I am using pearl theme by tobi  
  http://goto.bplaced.net/index.html).
  When I try it on a fresh blank tiddlywiki it works fine!

  I ll try and find out more.

   On Feb 21, 7:00 am, shavinder shavinderpalsi...@gmail.com wrote:

If one writes this: tag Poem 'All Poems'
The text of the link/button should change to the second parameter ie
All Poems
It seems something is wrong because it is not happening here:

   http://selectedpoems.tiddlyspot.com/#MainMenu

Any ideas why? The version of the TW document is 2.5.3

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[tw] Change label for link returned by tag macro

2010-02-21 Thread shavinder
If one writes this: tag Poem 'All Poems'
The text of the link/button should change to the second parameter ie
All Poems
It seems something is wrong because it is not happening here:

http://selectedpoems.tiddlyspot.com/#MainMenu

Any ideas why? The version of the TW document is 2.5.3

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[tw] Re: MiniPedia Released

2010-02-13 Thread shavinder
It looks good. feels nice and comfortable.



On Feb 14, 5:01 am, FLX flx...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey TiddlyWiki community,

 I created a Wikipedia clone out of TiddlyWiki. I think it's great to
 get a more mediawiki like behavior when it comes to documenting all
 kinds of ideas and projects. Please check it out and give me some
 feedback, thanks!

 http://flx.me/minipedia/

 Regards,

 Dennis

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[tw] Re: Request: Firebug tutorial for TiddlyWiki

2010-02-10 Thread shavinder
I have used firebug in past some years. Some of the uses are:

1. to inspect DOM in order to find out what div.class and div.id I
need to target and manipulate for formatting TW.
2. to actually try out changing the css attribute values in the live
DOM before including them in a Styling tiddler.
3. to inspect DOM in order to find out what divs and their classes do
what in a TW interface, like what is a displayArea and what is a
tiddlylinkExisting etc
4. to run short lines of javascript code from console line just to see
their effect before actually including them into an inline script
5. to debug inline script by sending flag values to console.log of
firebug.

Besides firebug another tool which is indispensible when it comes to
any coding in TW is Eric Shulman's http://www.tiddlytools.com/insideTW/

-shavinder

On Feb 11, 2:26 am, Mark S. throa...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Just thinking out loud. So much of the code that you're likely to want
 to edit is stored in tiddlers as plugins or systemConfig code which
 gets evaluated *after* the core code has loaded. So I don't think you
 can find it in the FireBug code window. Anyway, I wasn't able to use
 FireBug on any of the code I was writing. But maybe there's some
 special technique. I suppose it would be possible to temporarily park
 code in the Markup section so that it would get evaluated like real
 javascript. Then move it to its containing tiddler once its been
 debugged.

 Mostly I've used FB to help me see what styles TW is applying. In the
 code itself I use alerts to let me know where the code is executing,
 and what key variables have been set to. I've found in other
 environments that debuggers often gets in your way more than they
 help.

 Mark

 On Feb 11, 4:09 am, Mike eris...@gmail.com wrote:

  Looking for a TW experts point of view on how to use Firebug with
  TW. . .

  Not sure if anyone has the time or energy to put something together,
  but I think it would be a good contribution to the general knowledge
  base.  This also would be a good resource for people learning how to
  troubleshoot and write their own scripts / macros / plugins.

  Slowly making all of us users into mini experts :P

  Any Thoughts?

  Mike

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[tw] Re: MiniTiddlyServer

2010-02-06 Thread shavinder
 First I tried TiddlySpot (with the uploadplugin). That wooldn't work
 for me because before the upload the Tiddly needs to be locally saved
 (and the smartphone doesn't do that).

Yes it does that normally, but there must be some tweak available
because If one opens the tiddlytools document and tries to edit a
random tiddler and clicks the upload button the document starts to
attempt to upload and in a moment asks for username password!
(of course I don't know both and have no intention of making any
upload :-)
The point being that there *is* a way to upload without saving locally
first. I think its the upload plugin available at tiddlytools which is
responsible for this.

-shavinder

On Feb 7, 1:58 am, wikiwizz d.bl...@hccnet.nl wrote:
 Hello all,

 I am new to this community and not a native english writer, but
 nevertheless I want to try and share my findings with Tiddlywiki, and
 to ask a question.
 I stumbled upon Tiddlywiki some weeks ago, looking for a nice way to
 share content between my home-pc (Linux), my pc at work (Window$) and
 my smartphone (Nokia 5800). Because internet on the smartphone is not
 allways available I wanted something working offline. So this is where
 Tiddlywiki would come in perfect. I very much like the possibilities
 in special Tiddlywikis like TiddlyFolio, TWAD and MonkeyGTD. Problem
 is however that the browser on the phone doesn't allow saving the
 Tiddlywiki file. And I want to be able to edit the content on the
 phone.
 So I started to look at the serverside options.
 First I tried TiddlySpot (with the uploadplugin). That wooldn't work
 for me because before the upload the Tiddly needs to be locally saved
 (and the smartphone doesn't do that).
 Then I tried to get ccTiddly going, but after some days of trial and
 error and diving in all the documentation i could find, i did not
 manage to get it working.
 I looked at TiddlyWeb, but the problem there is that my
 hostingprovider doesn't support Python, only PHP and Perl.
 Then I gave MiniTiddlyServer a try, allthough the homebase URL for
 that project is no longer working and there there is very little
 information to be found. The package I retrieved from Tiddlywiki's svn
 repository. And surprisingly easy it came to life. I can now edit my
 Tiddlys online and use the data offline on my phone.
 Next I wanted to use TiddlySnip from within Firefox to save snips on
 my online Tiddly. TiddlySnip allso seems to be abandoned, but some
 people have made some last changes and one was the option to save to
 MiniTiddlyServer. But there was no clear documentation on how to put
 in the right settings. It took me some days of diving into the
 sourcecode of TiddlySnip but finally I figured it out, and now I have
 this working as well.
 So after this long story I will come to my question for this
 community. I am now so very enthusiastic about all that I have
 achieved that I would like to contribute to Tiddlywiki. I am not very
 good in programming Javascript or PHP but I can read and understand
 someones else's code most of the time. Perhaps I could adopt the
 abandoned projects MiniTiddlyServer and TiddlySnip and host a demo,
 download and how-to-install on my hosted domain. That way others can
 benefit from my knowledge and Tiddlywiki can become popular on
 smartphones from now on. Perhaps someone can react on this or maybe
 some of the original contributers on TiddlySnip or MiniTiddlyServer
 would like to say something on this.
 Greetz, Dirk

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[tw] Re: TiddlySpot Download

2010-02-02 Thread shavinder
if download link has been hidden somehow, then just add '/download'
the to site address and try and open it. The browser should prompt you
to save the file. For example if your site is http://foo.tiddlyspot.com
then try this http://foo.tiddlyspot.com/download

-shavinder

On Feb 2, 6:41 pm, Mark S. throa...@yahoo.com wrote:
 If its not a private tw, perhaps you could share the address?

 Usually just clicking on the link, download, is enough for the
 browser to bring up a dialog asking where you want the file to be
 saved. Is that not happening with you?

 Good luck!
 Mark

 On Feb 2, 5:07 am, DrCory drc...@clearwire.net wrote:

  After suffering a catastrophic loss of my Hard drive data, I'm trying
  to reconstitute a working file of my TiddlySpot site. I know I should
  be able to download it directly and work with it. I'm embarrassed to
  say I haven't been able to download a working copy.

  Could someone please hold my hand so I can get a working copy and
  update my TiddlySpot?!

  DrCory

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[tw] query regarding a-pm

2010-01-28 Thread shavinder
I looked up http://a-pm.tiddlyspot.com/ but could not understand its
concept. Could anyone please explain what its about?

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[tw] Re: Tiddlyspot Upload Issue

2010-01-28 Thread shavinder
Is it a browser message or does this error show up in a yellowish
message box on the top right corner of the tiddlywiki doc?

If its a browser alert then somebody might be able to help you out
better if you post which browser you are using. You ca lookup the
version from HelpAbout in the browser menu.

If it is a tiddlywiki message, I suggest you download a fresh copy of
your document from tiddlyspot and try again. I suspect there might be
some corruption in your downloaded file.



On Jan 28, 4:49 pm, Shah shalu21@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I tried to download offline copy, made few changes then when tried to
 upload, got an error message, unable to upload to web, access denied.

 Could anyone suggest what could be the reason.

 cheers,
 Shah.

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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki for the Rest of Us

2010-01-26 Thread shavinder
 It might simply be a matter of norms, with the likes of Eric
 establishing a culture of unusual politeness, helpfulness, friendliness
 and patience early on.

I would like to express my gratitude for people of this community who
have helped me whenever I asked for. Especially Eric, who has gone
many *extra miles* several times. I have seen that Eric creates a
plugin whenever a need arises out of people discussing their problems
here in the group. While we are struggling, he quietly gets to work,
whips out a plugin, and simply says, here take this and enjoy. It is
only right to pick and follow this culture.

On Jan 26, 8:06 pm, FND f...@gmx.net wrote:
  I agree with you when you say this community really is very much
  different from most in their willingness to go the extra mile. 
  An interesting question to investigate would be why this is so.

 It might simply be a matter of norms, with the likes of Eric
 establishing a culture of unusual politeness, helpfulness, friendliness
 and patience early on.

 -- F.

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[tw] Re: How do I create navigation menu like this one

2010-01-26 Thread shavinder
You can see how Eric has done it in his 
http://www.tiddlytools.com/quickstart/basics.html#MainMenu
on the tw you refer to.

To do the same you will need to learn about:
1. in-built slider macro, which you can learn from here:
http://twhelp.tiddlyspot.com/#[[Macros%20Built-in]]
2. applying borderleft class to an block of content. Eric has created
a new class borderleft in this style defining tiddler
http://www.tiddlytools.com/quickstart/basics.html#StyleSheetShortcuts
3. You also need to learn(at this time I cant find a link to a
tutorial so i shall explain a bit myself) how to hide a section of a
tiddler within comments markers (a comment starts with /% and ends
with %/ ) and then create sections in the comments using headings.
example:
/%
!SectionOne
some content
!SectionTwo
some more content
!end
%/
Now section one can be referred to like this foo##SectionOne from
anywhere. Eric has used this technique to call a particular section
into the related slider macro.

-hope this helps
shavinder

On Jan 27, 7:41 am, Claudio kwn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Quite like the MainMenu ofhttp://www.tiddlytools.com/quickstart/basics.html

 Wonder how to create one like that. Not sure whether multiple words
 can be used as well, like:

 Chapter 1
  | Section name
  | Section name
  | Section name
  | Section name
 Chapter 2
  | Section name
  | Section name
  | Section name
  | Section name

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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki for the Rest of Us

2010-01-25 Thread shavinder
Hello Neil,

My half a cent.

Personally I experience frustration many times when I am learning
something. It is quite natural to get overwhelmed when one is exposed
to Tiddlywiki world and all its plugins and options.
I would suggest that you do not beat yourself up if you are not able
to get something to work. If you can afford the time, just take a
break. A break does wonders.
If you like I can attempt(i am not an expert please, just a tinkerer)
to upload your tiddlywiki to tiddlyspot if you are comfortable with
sharing a password. Of course once it is done you should reset the
password.

Do not give up asking for help in this group. You will soon overcome
this block and move forward.

best wishes
-shavinder

On Jan 26, 1:48 am, Alex Hough r.a.ho...@googlemail.com wrote:
 my €0.1

 don't bother with tiddlysnip.
 tiddlyspot is good, but dropbox is better

 ALex

 2010/1/25 Mike eris...@gmail.com



  my 2c . . .

  TW is great, but it is easy to get lost in what you could do -.-
  My recommendation is to make a list of what you want to achieve
  What is your TW for, what data do you want to populate ect.

  Start with that, then try to find a variant that fits the way you
  work, I started with MPTW
 http://mptw.tiddlyspot.com/
  I love TagglyTagging, and still use it to this day (almost 3 years in
  TW)

  Secondly, don't expect to be an expert overnight, I learn something
  new every week just from watching this group, some I gather as
  knowledge, some I implement into my TW - while the customization is
  endless, not everything will fit your style or work-flow.

  Third I am not sure what your core problems are - sounds like
  tiddlysnip, and tiddlyspot

  I can see you have posted about tiddlysnip, and people are working on
  the issue
  As for TiddlySpot, you might try a separate post asking for help on
  that issue, and see what the experts come up with.

  Personally I use TW on a USB drive, with Portable FireFox

  Lastly, this is the most helpful group I have ever joined, and a
  simple piece of software that I use everyday, pretty impressive
  considering all of it is free.

  Mike

  On Jan 25, 1:45 pm, Måns humam...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hi Neil

As you say, its customizability is both a strength and a limitation.
  Like
certain highly desirable life-partners, it is high maintenance!

But that doesn't limit his or her desirability; often it makes them
  seem all
the more desirable. I think that may be the case here.

   :-)

   That's the spirit..

   There are many welldesigned finished products made from TiddlyWiki.
   I will recommend trying Dave Gifford's verticals for their simple and
   practical use, Morris Gray's verticals for their beautiful design and
   Eric's (TiddlyTools) quickstart documents for their out of the box
   no fuzz application...

   They are all very well made and you will be productive AND learn the
   basics at the same time...

   Regards Måns Mårtensson

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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki for the Rest of Us

2010-01-25 Thread shavinder
Hello again Neil,

Another suggestion. I shall today, after work download a blank new
tiddlywiki, and i shall try to upload it to one of my tiddlywikis at
tiddlyspot. If i succeed I shall jot down all the steps and post them
here. That should help you out.

- shavinder

On Jan 26, 7:46 am, shavinder shavinderpalsi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello Neil,

 My half a cent.

 Personally I experience frustration many times when I am learning
 something. It is quite natural to get overwhelmed when one is exposed
 to Tiddlywiki world and all its plugins and options.
 I would suggest that you do not beat yourself up if you are not able
 to get something to work. If you can afford the time, just take a
 break. A break does wonders.
 If you like I can attempt(i am not an expert please, just a tinkerer)
 to upload your tiddlywiki to tiddlyspot if you are comfortable with
 sharing a password. Of course once it is done you should reset the
 password.

 Do not give up asking for help in this group. You will soon overcome
 this block and move forward.

 best wishes
 -shavinder

 On Jan 26, 1:48 am, Alex Hough r.a.ho...@googlemail.com wrote:

  my €0.1

  don't bother with tiddlysnip.
  tiddlyspot is good, but dropbox is better

  ALex

  2010/1/25 Mike eris...@gmail.com

   my 2c . . .

   TW is great, but it is easy to get lost in what you could do -.-
   My recommendation is to make a list of what you want to achieve
   What is your TW for, what data do you want to populate ect.

   Start with that, then try to find a variant that fits the way you
   work, I started with MPTW
  http://mptw.tiddlyspot.com/
   I love TagglyTagging, and still use it to this day (almost 3 years in
   TW)

   Secondly, don't expect to be an expert overnight, I learn something
   new every week just from watching this group, some I gather as
   knowledge, some I implement into my TW - while the customization is
   endless, not everything will fit your style or work-flow.

   Third I am not sure what your core problems are - sounds like
   tiddlysnip, and tiddlyspot

   I can see you have posted about tiddlysnip, and people are working on
   the issue
   As for TiddlySpot, you might try a separate post asking for help on
   that issue, and see what the experts come up with.

   Personally I use TW on a USB drive, with Portable FireFox

   Lastly, this is the most helpful group I have ever joined, and a
   simple piece of software that I use everyday, pretty impressive
   considering all of it is free.

   Mike

   On Jan 25, 1:45 pm, Måns humam...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Neil

 As you say, its customizability is both a strength and a limitation.
   Like
 certain highly desirable life-partners, it is high maintenance!

 But that doesn't limit his or her desirability; often it makes them
   seem all
 the more desirable. I think that may be the case here.

:-)

That's the spirit..

There are many welldesigned finished products made from TiddlyWiki.
I will recommend trying Dave Gifford's verticals for their simple and
practical use, Morris Gray's verticals for their beautiful design and
Eric's (TiddlyTools) quickstart documents for their out of the box
no fuzz application...

They are all very well made and you will be productive AND learn the
basics at the same time...

Regards Måns Mårtensson

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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki for the Rest of Us

2010-01-25 Thread shavinder
Here are the steps to upload a brand new tiddlywiki to an existing
tiddlyspot account:

1. Download the existing tiddlywiki file from tiddlyspot and store it
safe somewhere. This is a backup for your data.

2. Download a new blank Tiddlywiki file from tiddlywiki.com site.

3. Copy these tiddlers into your new TW:
[[PasswordOptionPlugin]] from 
http://tiddlywiki.bidix.info/#PasswordOptionPlugin
[[UploadPlugin]] from http://tiddlywiki.bidix.info/#UploadPlugin

4. Copy [[TSpotPlugin]] from your old tiddlywiki into your new
tiddlywiki, save and refresh.
Or you can copy from here http://tspotsetupplugin.tiddlyspot.com/

5. If you copy from http://tspotsetupplugin.tiddlyspot.com/ you will
have to change this line in [[TSpotPlugin]]:
config.tiddlyspotSiteId = 'tspotsetupplugin';

to

config.tiddlyspotSiteId = 'your-site-id';

Note: if you site is foo.tiddlyspot.com then you site id is 'foo'.

5. Save and refresh. You would find that in the default
[[WelcomeToTiddlyspot]] tiddler there is an error shown. This is
because there is a
br written instead of just br in [[TSpotControls]]. Correct this
in [[TSpotControls]] shadow tiddler.

6. Save and refresh again.

7. Now you are good to go. Fill in your password and click the upload
button in your right sidebar. In a few moments your new Tiddlywiki
file will replace your original Tiddlywiki file at your tiddlyspot
account.

Note: all the three essential tiddler [[PasswordOptionPlugin]],
[[UploadPlugin]] and [[TSpotPlugin]] should be tagged with
'systemConfig' tag.


-shavinder

On Jan 26, 7:57 am, shavinder shavinderpalsi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello again Neil,

 Another suggestion. I shall today, after work download a blank new
 tiddlywiki, and i shall try to upload it to one of my tiddlywikis at
 tiddlyspot. If i succeed I shall jot down all the steps and post them
 here. That should help you out.

 - shavinder

 On Jan 26, 7:46 am, shavinder shavinderpalsi...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hello Neil,

  My half a cent.

  Personally I experience frustration many times when I am learning
  something. It is quite natural to get overwhelmed when one is exposed
  to Tiddlywiki world and all its plugins and options.
  I would suggest that you do not beat yourself up if you are not able
  to get something to work. If you can afford the time, just take a
  break. A break does wonders.
  If you like I can attempt(i am not an expert please, just a tinkerer)
  to upload your tiddlywiki to tiddlyspot if you are comfortable with
  sharing a password. Of course once it is done you should reset the
  password.

  Do not give up asking for help in this group. You will soon overcome
  this block and move forward.

  best wishes
  -shavinder

  On Jan 26, 1:48 am, Alex Hough r.a.ho...@googlemail.com wrote:

   my €0.1

   don't bother with tiddlysnip.
   tiddlyspot is good, but dropbox is better

   ALex

   2010/1/25 Mike eris...@gmail.com

my 2c . . .

TW is great, but it is easy to get lost in what you could do -.-
My recommendation is to make a list of what you want to achieve
What is your TW for, what data do you want to populate ect.

Start with that, then try to find a variant that fits the way you
work, I started with MPTW
   http://mptw.tiddlyspot.com/
I love TagglyTagging, and still use it to this day (almost 3 years in
TW)

Secondly, don't expect to be an expert overnight, I learn something
new every week just from watching this group, some I gather as
knowledge, some I implement into my TW - while the customization is
endless, not everything will fit your style or work-flow.

Third I am not sure what your core problems are - sounds like
tiddlysnip, and tiddlyspot

I can see you have posted about tiddlysnip, and people are working on
the issue
As for TiddlySpot, you might try a separate post asking for help on
that issue, and see what the experts come up with.

Personally I use TW on a USB drive, with Portable FireFox

Lastly, this is the most helpful group I have ever joined, and a
simple piece of software that I use everyday, pretty impressive
considering all of it is free.

Mike

On Jan 25, 1:45 pm, Måns humam...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Neil

  As you say, its customizability is both a strength and a limitation.
Like
  certain highly desirable life-partners, it is high maintenance!

  But that doesn't limit his or her desirability; often it makes them
seem all
  the more desirable. I think that may be the case here.

 :-)

 That's the spirit..

 There are many welldesigned finished products made from TiddlyWiki.
 I will recommend trying Dave Gifford's verticals for their simple and
 practical use, Morris Gray's verticals for their beautiful design and
 Eric's (TiddlyTools) quickstart documents for their out of the box
 no fuzz application...

 They are all very well made

[tw] Re: Tiddlers side-by side?

2010-01-21 Thread shavinder
For the form construction ideas you could take a look at
http://classrecords.tiddlyspot.com/
Each form-tiddler has edit and view mode. The form elements are
displayed in edit mode. In this application you will find ideas for
searching through form fields and displaying them in tabs using
javascript. I think you can find many code snippets you can use.

In fact, if you want to go into that direction, I have also created
parent-child relationships amongst tiddlers using hidden fields. You
might feel that in your tiddler there is some data which can be put
into separate tiddler and store parents's id in a hidden field in the
new tiddler making it as a child record.

You would also need some kind of summary reports for quick look at
data. You will find logic for these too, in there.

hope it helps,
 shavinder

On Jan 22, 4:38 am, Anthony Muscio anthony.mus...@gmail.com wrote:
 This is a great case for a tool such 
 ashttp://tiddly960.tiddlyspot.com/beingpart of the standard tiddlyWiki
 tools all you need to find out is how
 to make the content of one tiddler influence another. I suggest the the
 method you use to display the first tiddler also displays the related
 tiddlers.

 The Parent could open or be displayed in a special parent tiddler (left Hand
 Side Box) and all tiddlers tagged with that parent tiddler open in the
 standard tiddler story column.

 This may all be a bit of overkill right now for you but something to
 consider.

 Good luck

 TonyM

 If you have not found an easy way to do it with TiddlyWiki, you have missed
 something.www.tiddlywiki.com

 On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 10:12, PMario pmari...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi Tobbe
  Some ideas [1],

  You have to borrow MaloStyleSheet[2] TaggedTemplateTweak[3]

  ==
  and make a new tiddler named: GeneologyViewTemplate.
  Copy your personal ViewTemplate into it.
  Add the following 3 lines to the new GeneologyVT

  see also GeneologyViewTemplate[4]
  !-- +++ .next 3 lines. --
  div class='viewer dp50' macro='view text wikified'/div
  div class='viewer dp50' macro='varWikify {{store.getTiddlerText
  (store.getTiddlerSlice(tiddler.title, Father).readBracketedList
  ())}}'/div
  div class='clear'/div

  The first div should be allready there. You should add class='.. dp50'
  to it, which generates the 2 columns. If you have ab big screen you
  can try 'dp33' and add Mother also. It look really cool.

  Important:
  Every tiddler tagged: Geneology will use the new Template vor viewing.
  The list will break the lines. You can copy from [4]

  ==

  copy varWikify macro to a new tiddler and tag it: systemConfig
  The varWikify macro is part of my SelectStoryMacro[5] but I think you
  don't need the whole plugin.

  ===
  config.macros.varWikify = {};
  config.macros.varWikify.handler = function
  (place,macroName,params,wikifier,paramString,tiddler)
  {
         var theVariable = createTiddlyElement(place,span,null,params[1]);
         wikify(params[0].toString(),theVariable);
  };
  

  Some thoughts:
  The above GeneologyTemplate uses the slice Father: [[Big Daddy]]
  to get the information which tiddlers should be displayed in the
  second colomn. If you use a cryptic number as tiddler.title then the
  slice has to use Father: [[a cryptic number]]. Which is not good.
  I think it should be something like: [[Big Daddy (007)]]. The only
  problem is the automatic numbering. I have no idea about this, at the
  moment. Some one else?

  If you use the GotoPlugin and SearchOptionsPlugin from tiddlytools,
  searchig would be easy.

  regards Mario

  have a look at[1]
  [1]http://a-pm-experimental.tiddlyspot.com/#Me
  [2]http://a-pm-experimental.tiddlyspot.com/#MaloStyleSheet
  [3]http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#TaggedTemplateTweak
  [4]http://a-pm-experimental.tiddlyspot.com/#GeneologyViewTemplate
  [5]http://a-pm-experimental.tiddlyspot.com/#SelectStoryMacro

  On Jan 21, 8:20 pm, Tobbe torbjorn.tornqv...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hi,

   Well I have a gedcom file that I could use but I don't get the import
   csv thing to work. I don't understand the usage of that plugin. For
   now I do this:

   In each tiddler I have this information:

   Firstname Lastname born 22 aug 1854 in The Town, died 22 aug 1954 in
   the age of (here I have Eric's showAge plugin/script) old.
   
   !!!Married/Single
   Married to: [[The girl of my life]]
   
   !!!Parents:
   ''Father:'' [[Big Daddy]]
   ''Mother:'' [[Medium Mama]]
   
   !!!Child/children
   *[[Litte One]]
   *[[Little One's Sister]]
   
   !!!Some facts like school, history about the persons

   and I tag this

   [[Firstname Lastname]] [[Big Daddy]] [[Medium Mama]] and perhaps the
   birthtown, county

   I might use {{niceTable{ like this. Haven't desided yet. It looks nice
   though.

   {{niceTable{
   |''Firstname:''|Teodor|
   |''Lastname:''|Jonkers|
   |''Born:''|22 aug 1854|''Place:''|Lazy Town|
   |''Died:''|22 aug 1954|''Place:''|Old Town|''Age

[tw] Re: Cool TW Trick

2010-01-17 Thread shavinder
Thank you Neil for sharing the Readability service. Thats what I like
about tiddlywiki list. Besides TW I get to know about so many other
different things going on in the web world here. I din know about
zotero but found it out here some weeks ago. Thats why i think in
places like this, its better to use more words than less because you
never know what extra thing or information the listener/reader might
glean out of your words :)


On Jan 17, 8:06 pm, Neil Olonoff olon...@gmail.com wrote:
 Readability is one of the coolest things to come along in a while. Wouldn't
 it be nice if you could have a one-click capability -- click Readability and
 simultaneously view the page in Readable format AND save to TiddlyWiki,
 skipping Zotero altogether.

 Neil Olonoff   olon...@gmail.com
 Lead, Federal Knowledge Management Initiative,
 Federal KM Working Group hosted at  http://KM.gov
 Office:  703.614.5058 (US Army HQDA, G-4/Contracted by Innolog)
 Mobile: 703.283.4157 (Disabled during working hours)
 Personal profile:http://www.linkedin.com/in/olonoff
 Blogging athttp://FedKM.org

 On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 3:36 AM, Alex Hough r.a.ho...@googlemail.comwrote:

  zotero now saves and syncs files [1]
  i wonder if could something good come out of the idea tiddlers saved as
  html using either Erics or Udo's save-as-pure-html plugins?

  [1] Owens, T., 2009. Synchronize PDFs and Collaborate with Zotero. Zotero:
  The Next-Generation Research Tool. Available at:
 http://www.zotero.org/blog/synchronize-pdfs-and-collaborate-with-zotero/[Accessed
  January 17, 2010].

  2010/1/16 Mark S. throa...@yahoo.com

  All interesting technologies!

  I see that zotero uses sqlite. Just thinking out loud, but wouldn't it
  be neat if there was a TW/FF plugin that would allow TW to use sqlite
  for its data cache. Then TW could retain most of its portability and
  customizable interface while supporting large amounts of data.

  Mark

  On Jan 16, 5:38 am, JayF fogle...@mail.uri.edu wrote:
   Stumbled upon a TW capability that I think is worth mentioning.  It
   has to do with saving articles on the web and  accessing articles
   within your TW.

   A clean version of the webpage is stored locally and appears in a
   nice readable fromat (no ads, or sidebars) inline in a tiddler.

   It requires Zotero  (www.zotero.org), the Readability bookmarklet
   (http://lab.arc90.com/experiments/readability/) , and the
   FramedLinksPlugin from Tiddlytools.
   After installing these tools, you can save a clean copy of a web
   page's text by:

   1.  Arriving at web page you want to save.
   2. Invoke the Readability bookmarklet.  This displays the webpage w/o
   clutter - a single column of text.
   3.  Now add page to your zotero library.  Depending on the source,
   Zotero may have an icon in the nav bar to do this automagically.
   Otherwise, you'll just have to open Zotero and choose the Add Current
   Webpage button.  Zotero will automatically store a snapshot of the
   clean page with its bibliographical entry for the page.
   4.  Within Zotero, show the snapshot and copy its link from the
   navigation bar.
   5. Return to your TW and insert the snapshot's link in a tiddler.

   If you have the FramedLinksPlugin activated, a nice looking copy of
   the webpage's text should appear under the link.

   Note: If you don't need a local copy, you can just copy the URL of the
   (cleaned) webpage and skip steps 3 and 4.

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[tw] Re: Run jQuery code at startup

2010-01-16 Thread shavinder
 The plugin is eval()'d by TiddlyWiki core after .header (and the page) has
 loaded, so the body of jQuery(.header') never runs. You can just eliminate
 it in your plugin and do:

 jQuery('.header').click(function(){
  alert('hello');

 });
That did not work either. I then revisited classrecords.tiddlyspot.com
and found that its easy to callup code from [[PageTemplate]]. I put
this at the very bottom of my PageTemplate:
span macro=tiddler zz-myScript/span

On Jan 15, 11:18 pm, Michael Mahemoff mich...@mahemoff.com wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 5:58 PM, shavinder shavinderpalsi...@gmail.comwrote:

  It looked it should work but it didnt:
  I have a tiddler [[zzz-myScript]] which is tagged with systemConfig
  and contains this:

  jQuery('.header').ready(function(){
   jQuery('.header').click(function(){
    alert('hello');
   });
  });

  This code works when run from firebug console, but not via
  systemConfig tagged tiddler above.
  Why?

 The plugin is eval()'d by TiddlyWiki core after .header (and the page) has
 loaded, so the body of jQuery(.header') never runs. You can just eliminate
 it in your plugin and do:

 jQuery('.header').click(function(){
  alert('hello');

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[tw] Exploring further on tiddlywiki960

2010-01-16 Thread shavinder
I explored a bit further on what I could do with tiddlywiki960. I
completely chucked out the tw interface including its header, main
menu, the display area and the sidebar and put it in a hidden div
which can be shown by clicking a button. The space which is left
behind can be filled with an Alternative Face for the TW document
which is defined in the tiddler [[Alternative Face]]. The styling of
the same is put in [[AlternativeStyleSheet]].

Here is the link: http://www.box.net/shared/4yzjeuqdec

I really dont know if this is of any worth. The idea struck me and I
did it.

-shavinder
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[tw] Re: Exploring further on tiddlywiki960

2010-01-16 Thread shavinder
 I do have a question though...you know how some the titles in boxes
 are linked to tiddlers...in the original 960?
 How would one view those tiddlers without having to open the TW
 interface? just a curious question;
 or can that be worked out?

As far as I know a tiddler is opened in the tiddler display area which
is now hidden in a separate div. Therefore all the href links can only
be made work like they do in a regular webpage. In this case local
links can probably be made to work. I had local links in mind while
putting in the top navigation bar.

But at this moment, this alternative face is not *alive* as the
original TW face :-)

-shavinder


On Jan 17, 12:04 am, Julio jpe...@gmail.com wrote:
 shavinder,

 that is indeed an interesting concept! I actually like it.
 I do have a question though...you know how some the titles in boxes
 are linked to tiddlers...in the original 960?
 How would one view those tiddlers without having to open the TW
 interface? just a curious question;
 or can that be worked out?

 Juliohttp://t960black.tiddlyspot.com/

 On Jan 16, 1:28 pm, shavinder shavinderpalsi...@gmail.com wrote:

  The toggle button is on the top left.

  On Jan 16, 11:26 pm, shavinder shavinderpalsi...@gmail.com wrote:

   I explored a bit further on what I could do with tiddlywiki960. I
   completely chucked out the tw interface including its header, main
   menu, the display area and the sidebar and put it in a hidden div
   which can be shown by clicking a button. The space which is left
   behind can be filled with an Alternative Face for the TW document
   which is defined in the tiddler [[Alternative Face]]. The styling of
   the same is put in [[AlternativeStyleSheet]].

   Here is the link:http://www.box.net/shared/4yzjeuqdec

   I really dont know if this is of any worth. The idea struck me and I
   did it.

   -shavinder
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[tw] Re: Dynamic data in a form listbox

2010-01-12 Thread shavinder
With help and guidance from Eric I created a simple database in
tiddlywiki for storing students' class records last summer.

http://classrecords.tiddlyspot.com/

 It is based upon the unamesa style form (also by Eric), in which a
tiddler shows an input form in edit mode and the data entered in the
view mode. Each record is a tiddler of its own, and some tiddlers have
inline script for generating customised lists. You can get ideas from
this application. There are many small tricks in there, which were
fresh in my mind back then, but not so much now.

-shavinder

On Jan 12, 9:47 pm, stone1343 stone1...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'd like a form something like this

 NewOrderTemplate

 Client: [listbox here with clients] [button here to add new client]
 PartNbr: [listbox here with part nbrs] [button here to add new part
 nbr]

 etc, you get the idea

 I know I should use a real database, but TW would be much simpler. I
 imagine this can be done, but the examples have hard-coded choices
 using option.

 Thanks in advance

 Jeff
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[tw] Re: TiddlySnips won't load

2010-01-07 Thread shavinder
I have uploaded the modified Tiddlysnip file. I tried it again and the
xpi installs ok on FF 3.5.7. on PuppyLinux4.3


On Jan 7, 4:51 am, Morris Gray msg...@symbex.net.au wrote:
 On Jan 7, 5:21 am, shavinder shavinderpalsi...@gmail.com wrote:

  You can trick FF by changing entries in the tiddlysnip install files.
  try this:

 http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlysnip/browse_thread/thread/e5edef...

 That sounds great.  Since you've done all the hard work, and to save
 others that exercise, why don't you put it in the Files section of the
 TiddlySnip Group and we can all give it a try on other systems.

 Morris

 On Jan 7, 5:21 am, shavinder shavinderpalsi...@gmail.com wrote:

  You can trick FF by changing entries in the tiddlysnip install files.
  try this:

 http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlysnip/browse_thread/thread/e5edef...

  This method circumvents not only the unsecure updates error, but also
  the FF version error :-)

  Hope this helps. If it does do tell us, cos i tried this only on Puppy
  Linux, I would like to know if it works on other systems too.

  -shavinder

  On Jan 6, 9:48 pm, Mark S. throa...@yahoo.com wrote:

   I would also be interested if there are other tools that do something
   similar, even if not explicitly for TW.

   The problem with TiddlySnip, is that it appends to the bottom of your
   TW file. Which means:

     1) You have to make sure you've saved your current TW before
        a TiddlySnip session
     2) You have to reload your TW before you see the changes.

   I used to have a text editor that could accumulate text as you copied.
   Something like that used in conjunction with Its All Text plugin might
   result in a better work flow.

   Mark

   On Jan 6, 5:42 am, Neil Olonoff olon...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello -

When I heard about TiddlySnips it sounded great. It's a plugin for 
Firefox
that will automatically upload a clipping to TiddlyWiki. Unfortunately, 
the
latest version of Firefox will not install it because it does not do 
secure
updates.

I'm wondering if there are any other tools that will upload a web 
clipping
(or clipboard clip) to TiddlyWiki. It would be a really cool gadget.

thanks,

Neil
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[tw] Re: Regarding Puppy

2010-01-07 Thread shavinder
Hi David,
Try puppy! its great, its a dekstop linux with good looking GUI. I
have been running off a USB stick for many months now. You would have
to get used to rox filer(its a desktop manager like Gnome and others
but is very minimal). The right click context menu is very different
from ubuntu or windows other full desktops OSes. For example the best
way to copy/move a file from one place to the other is by opening the
source and target folder in separate windows and just click-dragging
the file. It then gives you option of move or copy. Its different from
rightclickcopypaste paradigm :)

Abiword comes bundled with it but I am not happy with it. It does a
very poor job of dealing with MSWord files. Its better to separately
download Open Office SFS files, which you can search on puppy forums.
Besides Open Office you might be interested in installing Pidgin
(multiprotocol chat client) and Firefox (of course). Both are
available as PET files which just install in seconds. You can find
links for these on forums.

Like tiddlywiki puppy community at IRC #puppylinux is quite helpful. I
think you ought to try the standard version first and later digress to
modified ones which are known as Puplets.



On Jan 7, 11:19 pm, David davidconne...@gmail.com wrote:
 Shavinder: Your talk about Puppy Linux on a usb stick got me very
 curious, so I've done some quick searches on it. One unanswered
 question for me is, does Puppy come with a GUI (or can one be added)?
 I've avoided Linux because I'm a spoiled Mac user who has never even
 opened Terminal (though I did use command line interfaces back in the
 dark ages). Just wondering about GUI.

 David

 On Jan 7, 11:07 am, shavinder shavinderpalsi...@gmail.com wrote:

  I have uploaded the modified Tiddlysnip file. I tried it again and the
  xpi installs ok on FF 3.5.7. on PuppyLinux4.3

  On Jan 7, 4:51 am, Morris Gray msg...@symbex.net.au wrote:

   On Jan 7, 5:21 am, shavinder shavinderpalsi...@gmail.com wrote:

You can trick FF by changing entries in the tiddlysnip install files.
try this:

   http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlysnip/browse_thread/thread/e5edef...

   That sounds great.  Since you've done all the hard work, and to save
   others that exercise, why don't you put it in the Files section of the
   TiddlySnip Group and we can all give it a try on other systems.

   Morris

   On Jan 7, 5:21 am, shavinder shavinderpalsi...@gmail.com wrote:

You can trick FF by changing entries in the tiddlysnip install files.
try this:

   http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlysnip/browse_thread/thread/e5edef...

This method circumvents not only the unsecure updates error, but also
the FF version error :-)

Hope this helps. If it does do tell us, cos i tried this only on Puppy
Linux, I would like to know if it works on other systems too.

-shavinder

On Jan 6, 9:48 pm, Mark S. throa...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I would also be interested if there are other tools that do something
 similar, even if not explicitly for TW.

 The problem with TiddlySnip, is that it appends to the bottom of your
 TW file. Which means:

   1) You have to make sure you've saved your current TW before
      a TiddlySnip session
   2) You have to reload your TW before you see the changes.

 I used to have a text editor that could accumulate text as you copied.
 Something like that used in conjunction with Its All Text plugin might
 result in a better work flow.

 Mark

 On Jan 6, 5:42 am, Neil Olonoff olon...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hello -

  When I heard about TiddlySnips it sounded great. It's a plugin 
  for Firefox
  that will automatically upload a clipping to TiddlyWiki. 
  Unfortunately, the
  latest version of Firefox will not install it because it does not 
  do secure
  updates.

  I'm wondering if there are any other tools that will upload a web 
  clipping
  (or clipboard clip) to TiddlyWiki. It would be a really cool gadget.

  thanks,

  Neil
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[tw] Re: TiddlySnips won't load

2010-01-06 Thread shavinder
You can trick FF by changing entries in the tiddlysnip install files.
try this:

http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlysnip/browse_thread/thread/e5edef97dec18a17

This method circumvents not only the unsecure updates error, but also
the FF version error :-)

Hope this helps. If it does do tell us, cos i tried this only on Puppy
Linux, I would like to know if it works on other systems too.

-shavinder

On Jan 6, 9:48 pm, Mark S. throa...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I would also be interested if there are other tools that do something
 similar, even if not explicitly for TW.

 The problem with TiddlySnip, is that it appends to the bottom of your
 TW file. Which means:

   1) You have to make sure you've saved your current TW before
      a TiddlySnip session
   2) You have to reload your TW before you see the changes.

 I used to have a text editor that could accumulate text as you copied.
 Something like that used in conjunction with Its All Text plugin might
 result in a better work flow.

 Mark

 On Jan 6, 5:42 am, Neil Olonoff olon...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hello -

  When I heard about TiddlySnips it sounded great. It's a plugin for Firefox
  that will automatically upload a clipping to TiddlyWiki. Unfortunately, the
  latest version of Firefox will not install it because it does not do secure
  updates.

  I'm wondering if there are any other tools that will upload a web clipping
  (or clipboard clip) to TiddlyWiki. It would be a really cool gadget.

  thanks,

  Neil
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[tw] Re: Looking for some feedback

2010-01-06 Thread shavinder
How the hell did i miss this thread yesterday

David, this is JUST what the doctor ordered!!!
Read my lips. PLEASE KEEP WORKING ON THIS.
Its great!!!

On Jan 6, 9:44 pm, David davidconne...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Alex ... I too will be interested in hearing FND and Eric's
 thoughts. One advantage of being new to TW is that I really don't know
 what I'm doing. :-) So doing something like using transclusion to put
 tiddlers in double brackets in PageTemplate may not be the normal way,
 or even the best way, but I tried it and it worked. When I started I
 hadn't really planned to have TW put together bits and pieces of the
 PageTemplate on the fly, but that's where I wound up, and it seemed to
 me that for folks unfamiliar with html and css it is technically a
 little friendlier. I'm sure that my lack of knowledge of javascript
 also pushed me in a certain direction within the bounds of my skill
 set. This certainly isn't the only way to approach this, and other
 frameworks may be a better choice, but I'll defer that discussion to
 those with more experience with TW. As for the CSS as a theme, I'm
 sure you're right, but I just haven't had any time to look at how TW
 themes are usually structured. Once again, not knowing what I'm doing
 has its benefits.

 Thanks for the feedback. It's really appreciated.

 David

 On Jan 6, 5:15 am, Alex Hough r.a.ho...@googlemail.com wrote:

  Hi David

  I'd be interested in getting the Eric and FND analysis on this approach.

  Tiddlers in double brackets are used in PageTemplate. I've not seen this
  before, and was not aware it could be done. Its the same style as in the
  StyleSheet, only HTML is transcluded in the the PageTemplate.

  My hunch is that the CSS framework is best made implementable as a theme.

  Once one framework has been implemented as a theme, it would be easy for
  other frameworks to be plugged into TW.

  I think it would be a great help. My long term project would have benefited
  from a framework approach - if only from the browser compatibility issue.
  However, without struggling with my project I wouldn't understand the
  benefits the fluid grid system uses.

  keep up the good work, very interesting stuff

  Alex

  2010/1/6 Måns humam...@gmail.com

   Hi David

   Great job!

I'm happy this little project
looks like it might be useful. I've been having fun putting together
some examples today, and I'm actually enjoying how darned easy it is
to shuffle things around and put this here and that there with just a
few lines of syntax.

   This project of yours looks very promising!
   Great to see new directions evolving and a fresh go on the layout.
   I'm really looking forward to see where it leads - and to me it seems
   that it's potential is almost limitless..
   Please carry on :-)
   Thanks for sharing

   regards Måns Mårtensson

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[tw] Re: BrowserLinux and TiddlyWiki - a perfect couple..

2010-01-04 Thread shavinder
I have been using main puppy, puppy 4.3 for many months now. I have
installed it on a 4GB kingston pen drive and I love it. I have used
ubuntu for a some years now and I switched over to puppy because I
specifically wanted a pen drive linux which ran fast. And no OS is
faster than puppy because it runs COMPLETELY in ram. There is an SFS
file which is read and saved every boot up and power off, this
contains all the softwares installed and data files created by the
user. In order to keep my boot up fast I dont save heavy files in my-
documents. Instead I save it in /mnt/home which point to base pen
drive storage along with other OS files.
Although I shall certainly use ubuntu or some other full desktop linux
in future but puppy is certainly very charming. The standard puppy is
just 100 MB! what more can one wish for? I just took a cursory count
and found my puppy has more almost 100 application softwares! Can you
believe it? You name it and it has it.

As far as browser is concerned I have FF3.5. Sea-monkey is default
puppy browser and is certainly faster than FF. But i am in habit of
using firebug, colorzilla and download-helper. Besides FF is the only
browser(leaving aside IE which I hate) which can render Indic (indian
languages) text correctly. Even Sea monkey disappoints me at this.
Firefox renders Indic languages especially my mother tongue Punjabi
perfectly. For typing in Punjabi I have installed SCIM package which
also works fine.

Both Sea-monkey and Firefox are happy to run Tiddlywiki, they never
complain, unlike Opera.



On Jan 4, 7:59 pm, Måns humam...@gmail.com wrote:
 correction



  The usb boots in less than 30 seconds on my pc (even with the extra
  goOo.sfs) and it is incredibly fast when it's up and running -
  compared to anything I know - that is...

 It actually boots in less than 20 secs - 17 to be exact

 I've installed all sorts of heavy addons to the FF-browser to test -
 and the speed still beats anything I've tried..

 regards Måns Mårtensson

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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki and Dreamweaver

2010-01-03 Thread shavinder
No you cant format a tiddlywiki in dreamweaver.

An HTML editor expects an HTML markup on which it can work. Although a
tiddlywiki is an HTML document there is no html markup lying there
inside the body/body tags which is ready to be read and rendered
by the browser.
The actual page layout and its style information is read by the
javascript code by reading system tiddlers like PageTemplate and
others embedded within the belly of a TW document when it loads up in
a browser which can run javascript. This info is then used to generate
the html markup dynamically, meaning it is created right there and
then.



On Dec 31 2009, 8:37 pm, Manuel K. manuel.ka...@gmx.de wrote:
 When I try to format tiddlywiki with dreamweaver, an error message
 This file requires Javascript to function properly appears. Is it
 possible to format tiddlywiki with dreamweaver ?

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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki for Research and Dissertation

2010-01-02 Thread shavinder
Using online resources should not be seen lazy at all. I can
understand what the advisor actually means though. This happened with
me too. I prepared a proposal for research whose bibliography included
a lot of online sources. I assumed that it was enough for the primary
stage of the proposal. But the panel while rejecting my proposal used
this point in arguments, that I had not visited other university
libraries and had not consulted the actual hard bound researches
enough!

The Professors think is that internet makes it too easy for the new
generation and when they compare it to their times they dont like this
too much. They feel that effort being 'too easy' would make us less
worthy of the reward. (They may have a point but I am not sure)

Based upon my experience I feel that the professors are not fully
acquainted with what one might term 'web2.0 research'

A tiddlywiki is quite an appropriate candidate for a 'WEB2.0
Research'. In fact I pray that somebody who has already completed his
research and is willing to share his TW or some portion of it as an
example, take up this term 'WEB2.0 Research' and write an article on
this along with his sample tiddlywiki. This article would go a long
way in helping the professors form a favourable opinion about systems
such as Tiddlywiki.

I would also wish that in that article one should give a due attention
to the programming and designing aspects of creating a tiddlywiki
document so as to inform the reader that what he sees on screen and
all the buttons and their wonderful effects have taken some good
effort in the background.

Regarding 'multimedia dissertation' I would say the term multimedia is
so overused in education circles as none other. And i dare say that MS
Powerpoint paradigm is proving to be a major obstacle in changing
professors' attitude towards computers and their use in education.
What they usually want is audio and video chunks along with text on
slides.

But in the end I would say it is as important to please your advisor
as much as doing a good research. So think up of some innovative ways
to 'package' your research for impressing the audience. Use impressive
layout and colors for your tw when you submit it to your department. I
know what I say may be taken to be unethical advice but I believe its
better to do hard work and get a positive result than a negative one.

all the best
-shavinder

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 On Dec 31, 9:31 am, rnio...@gmail.com rnio...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi All
  I wrote my dissertation in Wordperfect... both times since a virus
  wiped it out the first time :(

 I nearly cried about a month ago when transferring participant
 interviews from my digital recorder to my laptop and one of them
 just ... vanished. I don't think I've lost a data file in 15 years. I
 don't know why it didn't make it to the laptop, but my error was
 erasing the digital recorder before I checked the files. I'm now
 considering how best to create two recordings during interviews, just
 in case.

 My other disappointment this semester was hearing my faculty advisor
 say to our class that a dissertation that included references that
 only came from online sources (meaning online scholarly databases, and
 as opposed to the dusty bound volumes on the fourth floor of the
 library) would be considered lazy. She's been very supportive of my
 ideas so far and has been stretching herself to use more new media in
 her online classes, so the lazy comment surprised me.

 As for workflow, I've gotten TW a step closer to the ease of
 Journler's drop box. I've created a folder on my desktop called
 TiddlyWiki Drop Box, which is now where I save PDFs and other files
 for research. I decided that a direct link to the file would be less
 useful because it includes the full path name, so my first step for my
 new files is to create aliases for all of them. I then move the
 original files to my Journler drop box so they will be indexed there
 as well, and the alias follows the file to its new location. That
 leaves only aliases in my TW drop folder. I do all my work on my
 laptop at home or on the campus, so TW and the files are always
 together. Then using the FileDropPlugin, I drop the aliases on a TW
 open in Firefox, and tiddlers are created for each automatically. I
 have them automatically tagged with Research and New so that I can
 easily pull them out of TW. I've changed the settings for
 FileDropPlugin so that the link is displayed in the tiddler. I open my
 tiddlers tagged New, click on the link, and the PDF opens in Preview.
 So far I've been manually copying the citation, abstract, and
 references to the tiddler, and then Skim through the PDF for any key
 points, which I also copy to the tiddler, or summarize. Tags are
 starting to be an interesting way to link authors across multiple
 works and to all the works that cite them. I'm tempted to try using
 the author's last name and year of publication as a wikiword

[tw] Using graphic border for tiddler display

2010-01-02 Thread shavinder
I wish to decorate my tiddler display with graphic border which i
shall either borrow or create in gimp/inkscape. Can anybody please
guide me regarding the css aspect of it? I'd be grateful.

-shavinder

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[tw] Re: I can't edit my wiki now that I have copied the file to the web server

2009-12-31 Thread shavinder
Editing features can be configured to either show or hide over http
through Advanced Options reachable either through the right sidebar.
But even if the edit feature is on you will not be able to save onto
your web server. For this you need a plugin which uploads the TW file
from your browser to the server and in turn a server which is coded to
receive it. A simple webserver which is just serving HTML files on
request cannot do this.
For a convenient solution to this just host your file at tiddlyspot.
Alternatively you could look into various serverside implementations
of TW including the much talked about tiddlyweb.

On Dec 31 2009, 8:26 pm, FND f...@gmx.net wrote:
  I can't edit my wiki now that I have copied the file to the web
  server. I can view all I want but it won't let me edit anything or
  change anything which defeats the purpose of what I am doing. Can
  someone tell me what's going on?

 See 
 here:http://tiddlywiki.org/wiki/I_put_my_TiddlyWiki_file_on_my_web_server_...

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[tw] Wishes for a Damn Good Year Ahead

2009-12-31 Thread shavinder
Greetings from Chandigarh India, for this GREAT GROUP!!

  
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     ***   

         
 
     
 
     
 
         
 
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****      *

Have a super duper, extra-enjoyable, eco-friendly, top-of-line, tax-
free, unprecendently-successful, healthy, energetic, terrific and
extremely HAPPY 2010!

-shavinder

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[tw] Re: Wishes for a Damn Good Year Ahead

2009-12-31 Thread shavinder
Oh :-p the ASCII masterpiece got all warped!! Never mind, have a great
one anyway!

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[tw] Re: Bump

2009-12-30 Thread shavinder
Thats a great picture Dave! I like its wide screen style. Did you crop
the original one to make it wide?

Just asking out of curiosity.


On Dec 30, 9:18 am, Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/;
giff...@gmail.com wrote:
 Bump again because I was in Acapulco for Christmas. Of course I only
 live a few hours from Acapulco.

 Photo here:http://www.flickr.com/photos/giffmex/4226078070/sizes/l/

 Dave

 On Dec 29, 5:38 pm, Måns humam...@gmail.com wrote:

  - from snowball to avalanche

  BUMP -

   from Denmark, where we had a white christmas (first one in several
  years..)

  regards Måns Mårtensson

  On 29 Dec., 20:29, Heller rob.viss...@gmail.com wrote:

   Bump from Holland!!!

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[tw] Re: Bump

2009-12-30 Thread shavinder
Ah! I noticed some warping on the man who is sipping his drink,
alongside a red t-shirt guy.

On Dec 30, 9:58 pm, shavinder shavinderpalsi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thats a great picture Dave! I like its wide screen style. Did you crop
 the original one to make it wide?

 Just asking out of curiosity.

 On Dec 30, 9:18 am, Dave Gifford -http://www.giffmex.org/;

 giff...@gmail.com wrote:
  Bump again because I was in Acapulco for Christmas. Of course I only
  live a few hours from Acapulco.

  Photo here:http://www.flickr.com/photos/giffmex/4226078070/sizes/l/

  Dave

  On Dec 29, 5:38 pm, Måns humam...@gmail.com wrote:

   - from snowball to avalanche

   BUMP -

    from Denmark, where we had a white christmas (first one in several
   years..)

   regards Måns Mårtensson

   On 29 Dec., 20:29, Heller rob.viss...@gmail.com wrote:

Bump from Holland!!!

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[tw] Re: Bump

2009-12-29 Thread shavinder
Yes thats true too. So here goes:

Bump! :)

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 I don't know, it's kind of fun just bumping for bumping's sake

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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki for Research and Dissertation

2009-12-28 Thread shavinder
In the differential geometry site here
http://deferentialgeometry.org/#[[Clifford%20matrix%20representation]]
how has the author done up all that equations? Its not TW wiki markup
I am sure. Is it some special plugin?
for example what is this?::

$$
\begin{array}{cc}
\si_1 = \sigma_{1}^{P} =
\left[\begin{array}{cc}
0  1\\
1  0
\end{array}\right]

\si_2 = \sigma_{2}^{P}=\left[\begin{array}{cc}
0  -i\\
i  0\end{array}\right]
\end{array}
$$


On Dec 28, 11:20 pm, Mark S. throa...@yahoo.com wrote:
 These example sites seem to work around the edges of what you want:

  http://www.pacifica.edu/lib/theses.html
  http://deferentialgeometry.org/
  http://imp.peermore.com/imp/recipes/imp/tiddlers.wiki

 I don't know how you searched this group, but the search engine is
 basically broke. The method I use is to search on google with site-
 specific search:

   thesis site:http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki

 I used 'thesis', but I'm sure other terms will come to mind.

 HTH
 Mark

 On Dec 28, 9:56 am, Neil olon...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hello Tiddly Wiki folks,

  Just discovered Tiddly Wiki and am considering using it as a central
  location for research documentation for my dissertation. I've been
  using Google Documents, but but it feels clunky -- the various
  documents really don't connect very well.

  I've done a search through the prior posts and have seen a couple of
  references to folks using it for this purpose, but the demo sites are
  down. Does anyone have any comments or tips?

  thanks,

  Neil

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[tw] Re: Bump

2009-12-28 Thread shavinder
Reply with bump on the particular thread you wish to bump


-shavinder

On Dec 28, 12:24 am, Ken Girard ken.gir...@gmail.com wrote:
 Bump of what?

 Ken Girard

 On Dec 26, 9:48 am, skye riquelme riquelme.s...@gmail.com wrote:





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[tw] Re: TiddlySpot

2009-12-28 Thread shavinder
Although I assume tiddlyspot is as reliable as it needs to be, i think
in case of tiddlywikis it should be a general practice to keep a copy
of all your TWs offline. Thats the beauty of a TW! no installation no
large file size, just a single html file! It is so easy to first
prepare content offline and then upload it to tiddlyspot. In fact you
could keep your important TWs in your email too, tagged appropriately
so you can find it easily later.

On Dec 29, 12:33 am, Neil olon...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 Who maintains the TiddlySpot hosting site? Is it something that one
 can rely on for an important purpose? Should one back up content on
 TiddlySpot?

 thanks,
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[tw] Re: API or Documentation for core macros?

2009-12-27 Thread shavinder
Wow Eric,
It will be wonderful!


On Dec 27, 3:07 am, Paul Truzzi paul.tru...@gmail.com wrote:
 Eric, I'm a long time lurker and only a hack when it comes to programming.  
 But please release your reference document
 ASAP.  I can't tell you how long I've spent trying to understand the trivial 
 functions in TW.

 I've love an advanced copy if you want any comments from a novice :)

 Paul

 On 12/24/2009 5:43 PM, Eric Shulman wrote:

  there any place where I can quickly learn what the usage and possible
  parameters for the core macros are?

  I've been working on a 'macro' reference document... and hope to have
  something to announce about a week or two.

  -e
  Eric Shulman
  TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios

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[tw] Re: How to disable the header

2009-12-17 Thread shavinder
The backstage button shall remain there even if you chuck out the
header div from the [[PageTemplate]].
Further, you don't have to use frames to display an image in header.
Do this in you [[PageTemplate]]:

!-- default header div is commented out here
div class='header' macro='gradient vert
[[ColorPalette::PrimaryLight]] [[ColorPalette::PrimaryMid]]'
div class='headerShadow'
span class='siteTitle' refresh='content' tiddler='SiteTitle'/
spannbsp;
span class='siteSubtitle' refresh='content' tiddler='SiteSubtitle'/
span
/div
div class='headerForeground'
span class='siteTitle' refresh='content' tiddler='SiteTitle'/
spannbsp;
span class='siteSubtitle' refresh='content' tiddler='SiteSubtitle'/
span
/div
/div
--!--This is a custom header definition in place of the default--
div refresh='content' tiddler='siteHeader'/div

Save and close the [[PageTemplate]]. Now create a tiddler
[[siteHeader]]. and in it embed an image like this:
[img[http://path/to/HeaderGraphics]]

-regards
Shavinder

On Dec 17, 9:38 am, Mark S. throa...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Well, putting

 .header {display:none;}

 in the StyleSheet tiddler hides the header but leaves the backstage.
 Is that what you want?

 Mark

 On Dec 16, 7:49 pm, Claudio Li kwn...@gmail.com wrote:

  Is using tw as a website, with the MPTW theme from tiddlytheme applied. Is
  that possible to remove the header yet still be able to access the
  backstage?

  My plan is to create an ordinary HTML frameset with two frames, the upper
  frame will be showing a graphic header and the lower frame will be showing
  TW with the header removed/hidden (i.e. the part above MainMenu is cut), yet
  still offer a way to access the backstage.

  Claudio

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[tw] Re: Am I the only one getting some foreign language in this Group?

2009-12-17 Thread shavinder
Nothing this side.

-shavinder

On Dec 18, 6:32 am, Mark S. throa...@yahoo.com wrote:
 It does seem to happen once in awhile since, hmm, maybe a week ago?
 Probably they're trying something new deep in the heart of the google
 groups servers.

 On Dec 17, 4:35 am, Dave Gifford -http://www.giffmex.org/;

 giff...@gmail.com wrote:
  New post is coming up Bagong paskil, for example. I don't remember
  doing anything to change my language settings for Google...

  Dave

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[tw] Did I miss the new TW which Morris mentioned a while ago?

2009-12-17 Thread shavinder
I cant find the previous post. All I remember is Morris mentioned
working on a new version which will have the ability to radically
change the TW interface in an interactive manner, structure and colors
etc.
Or was it somebody else?

-shavinder

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[tw] Re: Keep hover text and background colors after mouseoff

2009-12-16 Thread shavinder
Should be possible using scripting. Shall try it out in evening, I am
off to work now. But I feel its do-able.
-shavinder

On Dec 15, 10:26 am, Morris Gray msg...@symbex.net.au wrote:
 I'd like the selected link in MainMenu to retain the hover text and
 background colors after mouseoff. Of course it should be removed when
 the next link is selected then stay there.

 Is there anyway to do this?

 Thanks,
 Morris

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[tw] Re: Newbie Question about tags

2009-12-16 Thread shavinder
If you just started today you could use this too:

http://twhelp.tiddlyspot.com/

On Dec 17, 3:17 am, Amzg matiasg...@gmail.com wrote:
  The case of the letters matters here. systemConfig
  is a tag which is specially reserved for plugins.

 ..because it makes the particular tiddler be evaluated upon loading
 the TW.

 Also, if I were completely new to TW I would have appreciated if
 someone directed me to;http://mptw.tiddlyspot.com/

 if nothing else then just for the distinction of the tiddlers from the
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[tw] Re: formating viewtemplate

2009-12-07 Thread shavinder
InsideTW seems to be made for someone who knows what he is looking
 for..
One finds a lot just with some intelligent guesses :)

On Dec 6, 6:56 pm, Måns humam...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks Shavinder!

 I didn't know this ressource existed...
 My explorations are based on more or less random observations only.
 Maybe I just haven't been ready for a real study of the inner workings
 uptill now -
 InsideTW seems to be made for someone who knows what he is looking
 for..

 Måns

 On 6 Dec., 11:09, shavinder shavinderpalsi...@gmail.com wrote:

  Just for mentioning so that anyone who reads this thread and does'nt
  know already should know:

   'InsideTW' by Eric Shulman is a great help in diving deep into TW's
  inner and finding what functions take what and return what

 http://www.tiddlytools.com/insideTW/

  -shavinder

  On Dec 6, 12:22 am, PMario pmari...@gmail.com wrote:

   Hi,

   On 4 Dez., 06:11, Alex Hough r.a.ho...@googlemail.com wrote: nice 
   stuff..

tiddler header dp100   not seen this before

tiddler tiddlertitle class

   I found it by accident. I found malo first and wanted to use it.
   Started with a macro reading from tiddlers and wikified writing to div
   classes. But it didn't work the way I wanted. So had a look at the
   core source. Saw that the core was parsing for 2 params. 1 name of the
   tiddler and 2 a className. Made some tests and ... tiddler already
   worked the way I want it.

   [start: off topic]
   You may say: Thats good. I say: Wasted some time, that could be
   better used.

   This leeds me to a question.  Which undiscovered usefull functions are
   out there in the deep space of TiddlyWiki core with low gravity.

   I know, there were some discussions like Documentation  and Steps
   towards better documentation ... -http://tinyurl.com/yfup5j3 ...
   Which is very interesting and not that old as some others starting
   2005/2006. But I cant reply to it ?!

   I can not belive, that there is no automatically generated programmers
   documentation. The only thing I found is on tiddlywiki.org. As I learn
   from examples, it is really hard, because there are almost none.

   As some of you know, I can, and I would help to write some
   documentation. See making of a-pm [1] [2] and [3]. I can read the core
   but documenting it, is out of my possibilities.
   [On topic again]

   Thanks for your responses.
   Regards Mario
   [1]http://a-pm-part1.tiddlyspot.com/  part1, 2 and 3
   [2]http://a-pm.tiddlyspot.com/
   [3]http://multicolumn.tiddlyspot.com/

   On 4 Dez., 16:36, Tobias Beer beertob...@googlemail.com wrote:

Add me into the line of he me like's...

   On 4 Dez., 06:11, Alex Hough r.a.ho...@googlemail.com wrote:

nice stuff..

tiddler header dp100   not seen this before

tiddler tiddlertitle class

alex

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[tw] Re: formating viewtemplate

2009-12-06 Thread shavinder
Just for mentioning so that anyone who reads this thread and does'nt
know already should know:

 'InsideTW' by Eric Shulman is a great help in diving deep into TW's
inner and finding what functions take what and return what

http://www.tiddlytools.com/insideTW/

-shavinder



On Dec 6, 12:22 am, PMario pmari...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 On 4 Dez., 06:11, Alex Hough r.a.ho...@googlemail.com wrote: nice stuff..

  tiddler header dp100   not seen this before

  tiddler tiddlertitle class

 I found it by accident. I found malo first and wanted to use it.
 Started with a macro reading from tiddlers and wikified writing to div
 classes. But it didn't work the way I wanted. So had a look at the
 core source. Saw that the core was parsing for 2 params. 1 name of the
 tiddler and 2 a className. Made some tests and ... tiddler already
 worked the way I want it.

 [start: off topic]
 You may say: Thats good. I say: Wasted some time, that could be
 better used.

 This leeds me to a question.  Which undiscovered usefull functions are
 out there in the deep space of TiddlyWiki core with low gravity.

 I know, there were some discussions like Documentation  and Steps
 towards better documentation ... -http://tinyurl.com/yfup5j3 ...
 Which is very interesting and not that old as some others starting
 2005/2006. But I cant reply to it ?!

 I can not belive, that there is no automatically generated programmers
 documentation. The only thing I found is on tiddlywiki.org. As I learn
 from examples, it is really hard, because there are almost none.

 As some of you know, I can, and I would help to write some
 documentation. See making of a-pm [1] [2] and [3]. I can read the core
 but documenting it, is out of my possibilities.
 [On topic again]

 Thanks for your responses.
 Regards Mario
 [1]http://a-pm-part1.tiddlyspot.com/   part1, 2 and 3
 [2]http://a-pm.tiddlyspot.com/
 [3]http://multicolumn.tiddlyspot.com/

 On 4 Dez., 16:36, Tobias Beer beertob...@googlemail.com wrote:

  Add me into the line of he me like's...

 On 4 Dez., 06:11, Alex Hough r.a.ho...@googlemail.com wrote:

  nice stuff..

  tiddler header dp100   not seen this before

  tiddler tiddlertitle class

  alex

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[tw] Re: formating viewtemplate

2009-12-03 Thread shavinder
Wow Mario. This Malo CSS is impressive in its utter small size and
simplicity.

Thanks for sharing this.
-shavinder


On Dec 3, 1:10 am, PMario pmari...@gmail.com wrote:
 Skye,

 I have read also many posts here in the forum about multi columns and
 was not really satisfied with the solutions. Thats why I made some
 experiments with MALO CSS library [1] and the tiddler macro. See
 the beta results at:http://multicolumn.tiddlyspot.com/
 There is no description at the moment. - beta.

 replace span width='50%'  with: div class='dp50' and make your own
 experiments. I think there should be a clean and powerfull solution.
 Please share your results :)

 regards Mario
 [1]http://code.google.com/p/malo/ only 8 lines of CSS code!
 [2]http://multicolumn.tiddlyspot.com/

 On Dec 2, 4:04 am, skye riquelme riquelme.s...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi All

  A quick and maybe way out question. To what extent is it possible to
  format the viewtemplate.???

  For example I have a tiddler that I use to format new tiddlers in one
  case I am working on -

  |@@font-size:12pt;wikify {{tiddler.title}}@@|tiddler
  {{tiddler.title+##english}}|
  |htmlimg src='{{Fotos/+tiddler.title+.png}}' style='width:
  500px; '//html|''Referencias/Estudos'' forEachTiddler where
  'tiddler.tags.contains(context.viewerTiddler.title)' sortBy
  'tiddler.title' ''Notas''forEachTiddler where
  'tiddler.tags.containsAll([context.viewerTiddler.title,Nota])'
  sortBy 'tiddler.title'|
  |player id=1 {{Som/+tiddler.title+.mp3}} 500 45 true false|
  tiddler {{tiddler.title+##fotoref}}|

  it obviously creates a table, with three lines and two columns. Could
  I have this format embedded in viewtemplate rather than as a form
  tiddler.

  it largely boils down to - is it possible to write a viewtemplate
  like? -

  div id='tiddlerDisplay'
  span width='50%' refresh='content' tiddler='Tiddler##LeftSide'/
  span | span width='50%' refresh='content'
  tiddler='Tiddler##RightSide'/span
  /div

  efectively creating a two colums display 

  Possible??

  Skye

  PS using a tiddler as a form works well enough...and I know about
  {{twocolumns{  ...}}}..I am looking for more detailed formating from
  the viewtemplate itself!

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[tw] Re: assign a variable to txtUserName - howto?

2009-11-30 Thread shavinder
 .hope you are feeling better.

Yes, same wishes from me too. Hope you get full fit.
-shavinder

On Nov 30, 11:34 pm, Alex Hough r.a.ho...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Thanks Eric,

 I tried and gawped at var who = config.options.txtUserName; zillions
 of times and went on a lengthy detour of the TW code. I looked at it
 in a text editor rather than the browser or Firebug: very interesting
 to me, yet leading me up blind alleys. Your further explanations will
 come in useful, hopefully in the near future

 Thanks for your patience and hope you are feeling better.

 Alex

 On Nov 30, 5:58 pm, Eric Shulman elsdes...@gmail.com wrote:

   script show
   var who = parseParams({{config.options.txtUserName}});

   alert(who);
   /script

  When using InlineJavascriptPlugin, *everything* inside script.../
  script is considered to javascript code.  Using {{...}} within that
  code simply makes no sense.  Although it does not cause an error,
  {{...}} is NOT a proper use of javascript syntax.  In fact, that
  sequence is only defined and used by the TW core code to process 'eval
  params' contained in macro calls (e.g., myMacro foo with: {{...code
  goes here...}}) and cannot be used anywhere else.

  config.options.txtUserName (which can also be written: config.options
  [txtUserName]) is a javascript object reference directly to the
  current internal stored value for the option txtUserName input
  (i.e., the current username).

  parseParams() is a core function that takes a space-separated text
  string (e.g., the entire parameter list from any macro call), and
  breaks it apart into an complex object that contains separate text
  strings for each named or unnamed parameter.  So, unless the current
  username consists of a space-separated *parameter* list (which is
  isn't), you should not be using parseParams().

  This is all you need:
  script
  var who = config.options.txtUserName;
  alert(who);
  /script

  Note: leave the show param out of the script syntax.  It's just
  for documentation purposes.  Also, if you intend to use the who
  variable later on in another inline script, you *must* explicitly
  define it as a persistent global window variable, like this:
     window.who = config.options.txtUserName;

  enjoy,
  -e
  Eric Shulman
  TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios

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[tw] Re: migrating to TW notes or TWT notes

2009-11-03 Thread shavinder

Morris, what you just described is like a long-standing wish come
true. Being able to change color schemes in an easy and mix-and-match
way is what I have wanted since long.
Looking forward and waiting to be amazed.

-shavinder

On Nov 3, 3:11 pm, Morris Gray msg...@symbex.net.au wrote:
 On Nov 3, 7:33 pm, iain i...@jcis.net.au wrote:

  Morris,

  are you going to offer some different colour schemes - something light
  and breezy with a touch of blue and yellow you know sand and sea.
  FiddlyWiki had a very nice colour scheme 
  (seehttp://way.net/FiddlyWiki/FiddlyWiki.html).

 What I am working on is a wysiwyg TW design package that allows you to
 virtually have any combination of themes applied separately to header,
 background, MainMenu, topmenu, Sidebar, viewer, tiddler etc,

 You'll be able to have multiple MainMenus and more than one at a time
 by appending or prepending them into MainMenu, or the same in sidebar
 choices - even reversing them if you wish or having both the same.
 All changes are made with a single click and no knowledge of any type
 of code is required.  There are default versions of all so if you
 don't like what you did just click the defaults.

 Once you have made your choices you simply save and it stays that
 way.  There are no plugins or cookies used. So nothing can interfere
 with the design used and you can make as many TiddlyWikis as you want,
 all differing from one another, in perhaps many different ways, but
 never interfering with each other whether online or offline or any
 combination thereof. If you decide later to change any part just do it
 and save.

 Best of all even with all of the options it is still very light at
 under 650k and could be less if the unused options are deleted.  All
 of the hard work is done and I am now trying to clean it up and decide
 on some options for a beta release and get comments.

 You'll be amazed... stay tuned ;-)

 Morris

 On Nov 3, 7:33 pm, iain i...@jcis.net.au wrote:

  Morris,

  are you going to offer some different colour schemes - something light
  and breezy with a touch of blue and yellow you know sand and sea.
  FiddlyWiki had a very nice colour scheme 
  (seehttp://way.net/FiddlyWiki/FiddlyWiki.html).

  Regards

  Iain


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[tw] Re: introducing quick-add to tbGTD

2009-11-01 Thread shavinder

Toby, even though I don't use a GTD, I am feeling greatly tempted to
find out some use for tbGTD for myself. Its damn attractive and slick.
And you have put in great efforts into the interface. Good work.


On Nov 2, 12:13 am, Tobias - http://tbGTD.tiddlyspot.com;
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 Lo and behold,

 ...now there's also a new version of tbGTD, numberedly 1.10 for
 download.

 Enjoy,

 Tobias.
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[tw] Re: Help a newb download plugins!

2009-11-01 Thread shavinder

Create a new tiddler in the new TW and copy the required plugin
tiddler's title and content from the older TW to the new tiddler in
the new TW. Give it 'systemConfig' tag, save and reload. The plugin
would become active.

-shavinder

On Nov 2, 9:18 am, LoB lordofbones...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi. I have two questions regarding plugins.

 Is there a way to import a plugin from one of my older tiddlywikis to
 a new one? Both are on tiddlyspot. I tried to find the original plugin
 (a DropDownMenu plugin) but the source page keeps coming up as
 unavailable. Neither are publicly viewable, so I thought that may be
 why I was having difficulty accessing the older file from the new one.

 Even trying to get a plugin from somewhere else online hasn't worked.
 (I was trying to get Eric Shulman's InlineJavascriptPlugin) Is there
 something that I have to check or uncheck to do this?
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[tw] Re: Can't get the RightSidebar to hide by default

2009-10-31 Thread shavinder

 I think the documentation on TiddlyTools.com needs serious improvement.

Tiddlytools says it clearly:
Usage

tiddler ToggleRightSidebar
tiddler ToggleRightSidebar with: label tooltip

-shavinder


On Oct 31, 7:50 pm, Eric Winter eric.p.win...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Shavinder!

 Got it solved thanks to you!

 I never called [[ToggleRightSidebar]] before checking the value of
 config.options.chkShowRightSidebar.
 That would explain why it's value changed to NULL on page reloads -- it
 never got initialized.

 So, I added statement: tiddler ToggleRightSidebar to one of the tiddlers
 called at startup as you
 explained, and now the right sidebar is hidden for regular visitors and
 shown when admin logs in.

 I think the documentation on TiddlyTools.com needs serious improvement.

 Thanks a million, Sir!

 Septimus

 On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 4:57 AM, shavinder shavinderpalsi...@gmail.comwrote:



  Are you calling the [[ToggleRightSidebar]] from somewhere?
  ToggleRightSidebar is a script (transclusion now) which is not tagged
  with systemConfig and therefore in order to run it one needs to call
  it like this from somewhere: tiddler ToggleRightSidebar
  with:sidebar. This can either be done after startup in a normal
  tiddler or in a tiddler which is called at startup like in
  [[MainMenu]] or [[SiteSubtitle]]. You could make it more discreet by
  using a smaller label, eg a dot '.' instead of 'sidebar' and making
  its color same as the background.

  hope this helps
  -shavinder

  On Oct 30, 11:34 pm, Eric Winter eric.p.win...@gmail.com wrote:
   BTW, here's my content of tiddler zzTweak:

   if(config.options.txtUserName != admin) {
       config.options.chkSinglePageMode = true;
       config.options.chkShowRightSidebar = false;
       readOnly = true;
       showBackstage = false;

   }

   Septimus

   On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Eric Winter eric.p.win...@gmail.com
  wrote:

Hi Shavinder,

Good suggestion, well done!

First of all, yes, I have tiddler zzTweak preperly tagged
  systemConfig.

I took a look with Firebug and found that when I am logged in as user
admin,
config.options.chkShowRightSidebar is TRUE.

When I change the username to another user and reload the page, the
  value
of config.options.chkShowRightSidebar changes to NULL.

When I re-enter config.options.chkShowRightSidebar in Firebug's
expression
watchbox, it's value changes to FALSE.

So, config.options.chkShowRightSidebar appears to behave as expected.
I don't know what to make of the intermediate transition to NULL.

Do you?
Septimus

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 6:53 PM, shavinder 
  shavinderpalsi...@gmail.comwrote:

Did you confirm that zzTweak tiddler has a systemConfig tag?
Is it being loaded during startup?
if you have firebug you could check the value of the
config.options.chkShowRightSidebar by entering it on the firebug
console and pressing enter. If you dont use FF I think you could
import jash from tiddlytools and do the same check.

-shavinder

On Oct 30, 9:34 pm, Septimus eric.p.win...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi people!

 I like the RightSidebar to be hidden by default, and only show if I,
 myself and me, log in.
 This should be easily configured and is explained herehttp://
tiddlywiki.org/wiki/How_To/Setting_Up_TiddlyWiki_As_a_Website
 under heading Hide right side bar.

 I followed the instructions to the letter, a couple of times even,
  and
 the RightSidebar keeps
 on showing by default. That is, it shows up each and every time, no
 matter who's logged in.

 I'd like to go over my steps here, and perhaps that someone among
  you,
 see's what the
 -beep- I'm doing wrong, okay? Great!
 Here's what I did:
 -1- install the InlineJavascriptPlugin;
 -2- install the ToggleRightSidebar macro;
 -3- add tyhe following line to tiddler zzTweak:

 config.options.chkShowRightSidebar=false;

 -4- save the page and reload.

 I checked PluginManager if the plugin is installed and it is.

 Anyone any suggestions to what might be wrong?

 Thanks!
 Septimus


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[tw] Add elements to DOM using jQuery

2009-10-31 Thread shavinder

I do this in an inline script:

var foo = jQuery(div class='myfoo'/div);

How do i append this element foo to the tiddler which calls this
script ?
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[tw] Re: manipulating the dom using jQuery

2009-10-30 Thread shavinder

Wow FND! I could have never guessed. Thanks!

Its here too at https://developer.mozilla.org/En/DOM/Node.appendChild:


var appendedElement = element.appendChild(child);

The returned element is the child which is *appended*. So this line
does NOT return element p, it returns the helloworld textnode.

document.createElement(p).appendChild(document.createTextNode
(helloWorld))

Is the element p being created? I would hazard a guess that it *is*
being created. But in the following line the element p is not appended
to the body but is left orphan, and the returned appended child text
node goes on further to be appended to the body element in this line:

document.getElementsByTagName('body')[0].appendChild
(document.createElement(p).appendChild(document.createTextNode
(helloWorld)));

The next logical question is what does the above line return? The
helloworld Textnode still!

Thanks to FND for this again.

-shavinder


On Oct 30, 8:02 pm, FND f...@gmx.net wrote:
  May I suggest you moved on and consider [using jQuery]

 I believe one should have a firm grasp of JavaScript and the DOM before
 using abstractions like jQuery. (Although that's not necessarily a
 strictly linear progression; experimenting with jQuery can be
 educational WRT the underlying technologies.)

  the one-liner version still does not work correctly

 This is because your code returns the last element in the chain rather
 than the original node:
      document.createElement(p);
      // returns p element

      document.createElement(p).
          appendChild(
              document.createElement(em)
          );
      // returns em element

      document.createElement(p).
          appendChild(
              document.createTextNode(helloWorld)
          );
      // returns text node

 http://jksjs.s3.amazonaws.com/ce1.htmland
 http://jksjs.s3.amazonaws.com/ce2.html

 I assume you're aware that these are not valid HTML4 documents?
 (It looks a little like HTML5, but that might be coincidental?)

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[tw] Re: Spams

2009-10-30 Thread shavinder

wow. I hope this solves quickly and on the plus side provides an
insight into how these spammers works, leaving us a bit more empowered
if possible.

-shavinder

On Oct 30, 10:13 pm, FND f...@gmx.net wrote:
  could someone explain to me how my profile could become associated
  with such spam??

 Spammers are getting smarter, presumably exploiting Google Groups
 authentication mechanism.
 So your e-mail account has not been compromised; they are just
 pretending that their messages originate from your address.

 This might be of interest:
      http://ejohn.org/blog/google-groups-is-dead/
 (The amount of spam on this group is still manageable for us moderators,
 and the occasional one slipping through isn't a disaster.)

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[tw] Re: Can't get the RightSidebar to hide by default

2009-10-30 Thread shavinder

Did you confirm that zzTweak tiddler has a systemConfig tag?
Is it being loaded during startup?
if you have firebug you could check the value of the
config.options.chkShowRightSidebar by entering it on the firebug
console and pressing enter. If you dont use FF I think you could
import jash from tiddlytools and do the same check.

-shavinder

On Oct 30, 9:34 pm, Septimus eric.p.win...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi people!

 I like the RightSidebar to be hidden by default, and only show if I,
 myself and me, log in.
 This should be easily configured and is explained 
 herehttp://tiddlywiki.org/wiki/How_To/Setting_Up_TiddlyWiki_As_a_Website
 under heading Hide right side bar.

 I followed the instructions to the letter, a couple of times even, and
 the RightSidebar keeps
 on showing by default. That is, it shows up each and every time, no
 matter who's logged in.

 I'd like to go over my steps here, and perhaps that someone among you,
 see's what the
 -beep- I'm doing wrong, okay? Great!
 Here's what I did:
 -1- install the InlineJavascriptPlugin;
 -2- install the ToggleRightSidebar macro;
 -3- add tyhe following line to tiddler zzTweak:

 config.options.chkShowRightSidebar=false;

 -4- save the page and reload.

 I checked PluginManager if the plugin is installed and it is.

 Anyone any suggestions to what might be wrong?

 Thanks!
 Septimus
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[tw] Re: Can't get the RightSidebar to hide by default

2009-10-30 Thread shavinder

Are you calling the [[ToggleRightSidebar]] from somewhere?
ToggleRightSidebar is a script (transclusion now) which is not tagged
with systemConfig and therefore in order to run it one needs to call
it like this from somewhere: tiddler ToggleRightSidebar
with:sidebar. This can either be done after startup in a normal
tiddler or in a tiddler which is called at startup like in
[[MainMenu]] or [[SiteSubtitle]]. You could make it more discreet by
using a smaller label, eg a dot '.' instead of 'sidebar' and making
its color same as the background.

hope this helps
-shavinder

On Oct 30, 11:34 pm, Eric Winter eric.p.win...@gmail.com wrote:
 BTW, here's my content of tiddler zzTweak:

 if(config.options.txtUserName != admin) {
     config.options.chkSinglePageMode = true;
     config.options.chkShowRightSidebar = false;
     readOnly = true;
     showBackstage = false;

 }

 Septimus

 On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Eric Winter eric.p.win...@gmail.comwrote:

  Hi Shavinder,

  Good suggestion, well done!

  First of all, yes, I have tiddler zzTweak preperly tagged systemConfig.

  I took a look with Firebug and found that when I am logged in as user
  admin,
  config.options.chkShowRightSidebar is TRUE.

  When I change the username to another user and reload the page, the value
  of config.options.chkShowRightSidebar changes to NULL.

  When I re-enter config.options.chkShowRightSidebar in Firebug's
  expression
  watchbox, it's value changes to FALSE.

  So, config.options.chkShowRightSidebar appears to behave as expected.
  I don't know what to make of the intermediate transition to NULL.

  Do you?
  Septimus

  On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 6:53 PM, shavinder 
  shavinderpalsi...@gmail.comwrote:

  Did you confirm that zzTweak tiddler has a systemConfig tag?
  Is it being loaded during startup?
  if you have firebug you could check the value of the
  config.options.chkShowRightSidebar by entering it on the firebug
  console and pressing enter. If you dont use FF I think you could
  import jash from tiddlytools and do the same check.

  -shavinder

  On Oct 30, 9:34 pm, Septimus eric.p.win...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hi people!

   I like the RightSidebar to be hidden by default, and only show if I,
   myself and me, log in.
   This should be easily configured and is explained herehttp://
  tiddlywiki.org/wiki/How_To/Setting_Up_TiddlyWiki_As_a_Website
   under heading Hide right side bar.

   I followed the instructions to the letter, a couple of times even, and
   the RightSidebar keeps
   on showing by default. That is, it shows up each and every time, no
   matter who's logged in.

   I'd like to go over my steps here, and perhaps that someone among you,
   see's what the
   -beep- I'm doing wrong, okay? Great!
   Here's what I did:
   -1- install the InlineJavascriptPlugin;
   -2- install the ToggleRightSidebar macro;
   -3- add tyhe following line to tiddler zzTweak:

   config.options.chkShowRightSidebar=false;

   -4- save the page and reload.

   I checked PluginManager if the plugin is installed and it is.

   Anyone any suggestions to what might be wrong?

   Thanks!
   Septimus


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[tw] Re: changing tiddlyspot account but not tiddlywiki

2009-10-29 Thread shavinder

If i understand you correctly, you want to upload the older mptw to
the new address. right?
Well for this you open your [[TSpotSetupPlugin]] and change the
config.tiddlyspotSiteId to the new site-id which you created. Save the
file and reload it. and then try to upload it. It should upload to the
new address.

But in case it does not then try editing the urls in [[TSpotSidebar]].
Just take care that you should only change the siteid part in the url
strings, leave the rest as it is.
for example in:
http://oldsiteid.tiddlyspot.com/store.cgi
change it to
http://newsiteid.tiddlyspot.com/store.cgi

On Oct 28, 10:55 pm, jerimiah gentr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello:

 I have converted to MPTW and setup a tiddlyspot account.  After
 entering a fairly large amount of content into my MPTW, I decided that
 the tiddlyspot account name was too unprofessional for my intended (or
 potential) audiences.  I deleted the account and created a new one.

 My question is:

 How do I link my existing MPTW with my new account.  Uploads of course
 nolonger work, but it is not clear to me where that info belongs .

 Thanks!
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[tw] Re: Does jquery provide TW ability to query ODBC database?

2009-10-29 Thread shavinder

TW is a kind of database and is capable of creating, manipulating,
deleting and searching its *store* of tiddlers.
One can create database kind of records in a tiddlywiki too, along
with form based interfaces. I have done this using
InlineJavascriptPlugin by Eric Shulman. In fact using custom fields I
have used the foreign key concept too.

Right here in the group there is an application being discussed by the
name of Tiddle, which is built for searching through a number of TW
files. Maybe it could provide come pointers towards your specific
needs.

-shavinder

On Oct 30, 7:33 am, roger roger.ma...@gmail.com wrote:
 Based on a brief review of previous posts I got the impression that
 using TW as a tool to query an ODBC database wasn't really very
 feasible.  I'm wondering if JQuery has changed that situation or not.

 I'm looking for a way to access files (primarily pdf's and mutlipage
 tiff's).  The files are indexed in a database.  I'd like to query the
 indexing table and access relevant files via a web browser, rather
 than through the UI that sits on top of the database.  If TW just
 isn't suited for such a task, then I guess I'll have to look for some
 other alternative.

 My goal can best be summed up by a statement I read that was posted by
 Eric Shulman a few years ago:
 database driven dynamic tiddler content... yum.

 ~Roger
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[tw] Re: new (extra) menu

2009-10-26 Thread shavinder

You could just alter the contents of [[SidebarOptions]] and
[[SidebarTabs]] and fill them with your own menu links. But before you
do that make sure you ensure that you have access to the system
tiddlers and macros available in these two tiddlers in some other way.
You might put all these in a single tiddler and hide that tiddler
under a slider in the main menu on the left or even in the new menu
you create on the right.


-shavinder

On Oct 26, 2:54 pm, Wim w...@zeggetwaalf.be wrote:
 Hello,

 I now have my own TiddlyWiki with the main menu on the left and no
 sidebar on the right.
 Is it possible to add a second menu on the right of the screen ?

 Thanks in advance

 Wim
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[tw] Re: Tracking time spent viewing tiddlers

2009-10-26 Thread shavinder

@Mahemoff The link you just posted is blocked by my FF preferences
with Google reporting it as a Reported Attack Site!.

Please look into this.

Here is the details of what google says about this:

Safe Browsing
Diagnostic page for mahemoff.com

What is the current listing status for mahemoff.com?

Site is listed as suspicious - visiting this web site may harm
your computer.

Part of this site was listed for suspicious activity 2 time(s)
over the past 90 days.

What happened when Google visited this site?

Of the 4 pages we tested on the site over the past 90 days, 3 page
(s) resulted in malicious software being downloaded and installed
without user consent. The last time Google visited this site was on
2009-10-25, and the last time suspicious content was found on this
site was on 2009-10-25.

Malicious software is hosted on 1 domain(s), including
davtraff.com/.

This site was hosted on 1 network(s) including AS26347
(DREAMHOST).

Has this site acted as an intermediary resulting in further
distribution of malware?

Over the past 90 days, mahemoff.com did not appear to function as
an intermediary for the infection of any sites.

Has this site hosted malware?

No, this site has not hosted malicious software over the past 90
days.

How did this happen?

In some cases, third parties can add malicious code to legitimate
sites, which would cause us to show the warning message.

Next steps:

* Return to the previous page.
* If you are the owner of this web site, you can request a review
of your site using Google Webmaster Tools. More information about the
review process is available in Google's Webmaster Help Center.


-shavinder

On Oct 26, 5:20 am, Michael Mahemoff mich...@mahemoff.com wrote:
 On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Craig in Calgary

 craig.prich...@gmail.com wrote:

  For my TiddlyWiki Tutorial (http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki/
  t/2cdca3a12bfdc630?hl=en) I will have sets of tiddlers, each set
  behaving like a slideshow. Is it possible for the TiddlyWiki to track
  the time spent from when the first tiddler in a set is opened for
  viewing until the last tiddler in the set is closed? I would store
  these durations with the hope of generating a report showing what
  sets have been viewed, how long was spent viewing each set, and
  total time spent viewing all sets.

 I found this an interesting idea, I had some ideas on implementing it
 and decided to try it:

 http://tiddlywiki.mahemoff.com/ViewingTimesPlugin.html

 The plugin takes periodic samples (once a second) to see what the user
 is viewing. It looks at the first element in the story, which will
 work fine for a slideshow-type tiddlywiki or one using SinglePageMode,
 though mightn't be ideal for other situations. You could also replace
 the sampling technique by one which hijacks display events.

 It doesn't address all of your concerns, but hopefully gives you some
 ideas on how one might implement this.
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[tw] Re: Script/Macro/Plugin to view a persons age?

2009-10-24 Thread shavinder

tiddler GreatEnding with:transclusion

On Oct 24, 1:35 am, Tobbe torbjorn.tornqv...@gmail.com wrote:
 Fantastic Eric :) thanks a million

 //Tobbe

 On 23 Okt, 22:04, Eric Shulman elsdes...@gmail.com wrote:

   I'm a novice you know. How do I use it in a tiddler? I've saved the
   macro/script as a new tiddler with the name AgeMacro and tagged it
   systemConfig (don't know if it has to). Can you give an example?

  To use the script code I provided, you can import this tiddler:
     http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#ShowAge

  Then, embed it in your content like this:
     tiddler ShowAge with: startdate enddate

  You can specify dates using any javascript-recognized format,
  including:
     /MM/DD
     MM/DD/
     Month DD, 
     etc.

  Omitting the end date defaults to the current date.  You can also use
  'today' as a keyword for either date.  Dates can even be in the
  future, so that you can write:
     tiddler ShowAge with: today 2010/01/01
  to show how long it will be until the next New Year's day.

  Also, for your particular use-case, because you have used a *slice
  table* to define the birth/death dates, you can even do something like
  this:

  tiddler ShowAge with:
     {{store.getTiddlerText(tiddler.title+'::Birth','')}}
     {{store.getTiddlerText(tiddler.title+'::Death','')}}

  enjoy,
  -e
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  TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios


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[tw] Re: Is there any maintenance that should be done to a TiddlyWiki after a fixed period of time?

2009-10-23 Thread shavinder

Keep a back up! thats the first and foremost if you have so much data.
Other than this I don't think TW is prone to any wear and tear or even
residual build up of any file data outside or inside the TW file.

-shavinder

On Oct 23, 1:22 pm, Nandish Bhatt nandish.bh...@gmail.com wrote:
 It's been about 6 months of using TiddlyWiki everyday and it has
 become indespensible

 This is my first time using a wiki style note taking tool - and - the
 first time I've ever built up this many notes - 250+ tiddlers

 Is there any ‘best practice’ maintenance (even from a general wiki
 perspective) that should be done to keep the TiddlyWiki usable over
 the long term?

 Thanks!
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[tw] Re: Is anyone using TW with Opera 10?

2009-10-22 Thread shavinder

I have used opera a couple of times in the past(on Ubuntu), and I
remember it errors out badly while loading Eric's tiddlytools. AFAICR
it does a couple of other unwanted things too.

On Oct 21, 9:43 pm, Mark S. throa...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hello,

 Opera 10 seems to run TW much faster than FF 3.5. Searches happen in a
 blink of the eye.

 This may not be a fair comparison since I really have too many windows
 open in FF at the moment.

 But, Opera doesn't seem to successfully save -- instead TW hangs up.
 Or at least my very busy version of TW hangs up. I haven't tried a
 lighter version yet.

 Is anyone successfully using (and saving) under Opera 10?

 Thanks!
 Mark
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[tw] Re: tbGTD

2009-10-17 Thread shavinder

Toby you are unstoppable! Very cool app. Way to go!

On Oct 16, 8:26 pm, Tobias beertob...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Never quite published that one properly,

 After a major overhaul, I now present you with tbGTD, yet another
 TiddlyWiki's to get things done.
 Look here for recent changes:http://tinyurl.com/ylrf5zh

 Let me know what you think and, above all... enjoy

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[tw] Re: SiteTitle Layout

2009-10-17 Thread shavinder

In [[PageTemplate]] you will find this line:
div class='header' macro='gradient vert
[[ColorPalette::PrimaryLight]] [[ColorPalette::PrimaryMid]]'

By changing the two color params here you can change the gradient of
the header. You need not specify the colors mentioned in
[[ColorPalette]] eg:
div class='header' macro='gradient vert #FF5500 #FF7788' (just an
example, the colors actually must be an ugly combo)

You can leave out the gradient macro altogether and insert a style
statement:
div class='header' style='background-color: #ff;'


On Oct 17, 9:40 pm, Marc marc.ammon...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi everybody,
 it's the first time for me that I work with TiddlyWiki.
 Is there any chance to change the blue colour in Site-/SubSiteTitle to
 any other colout or to an personal image?
 Thanks for your help.

 Regards from germany,

 Marc
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[tw] Re: Want to join this group

2009-10-15 Thread shavinder

@Nagarjuna

Welcome to Tiddlywiki world. If you have posted to the group, I think
you have already joined.

Tiddlywiki is great software and one can employ it to versatile uses.
I personally have found the TW community to be most helpful and
friendly. If you have just started out with TW then you would find it
useful to first understand the TW interface and syntax:
here is what official TW site says:

quote
The TiddlyWiki community have created several tutorials and guides.
Here are some of the most popular ones:

* Dave Gifford's TiddlyWiki for the Rest of Us and his slideshow
introduction
* Morris Gray's TW Help - TiddlyWiki help file for beginners
* Dmitri Popov's TiddlyWiki quick reference card
* Julie Starr's Tiddler Toddler, documenting the learning curve
from a beginner's perspective
* Screencasts from JimVentola, LeonKilat and Phil Whitehouse
/quote
If you like javascript tinkering then Tiddlywiki is a delightful world
of its own. You can start off by reading from various plugin codes
available as open source.
If you believe me there are some seniors over here who can perform
real magic, lol.

-shavinder singh

On Oct 16, 6:59 am, Nagarjuna nagu.advai...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I am user of tiddlywiki, I want to know more. Kindly let me join this
 group.

 Thankyou in anticipation

 Best
 Nagarjuna KR
 Asst Professor
 Dept of Biotechnology
 LPU, Punjab
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[tw] Re: tiddLEGAL (or any other good name you may think of)

2009-10-14 Thread Shavinder

Sidebar toggle button is in the footer

On Oct 14, 2:55 pm, FND f...@gmx.net wrote:
  Since the very beginning that I came accross TW, I thought it could be
  a great tool to manage legal information, such as laws, resolutions,
  decrees, rules and court decisions...

 That sounds interesting - thanks for sharing.
 It appears the sidebar is hidden in your theme, so I had to make my way
 to the SideBarOptions tiddler to get a feel for how it works.

 You might be interested in TiddlyGuv, which is somewhat related and
 probably shares many of the requirements of your scenario:
      http://www.tiddlyguv.org

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[tw] Re: tiddLEGAL (or any other good name you may think of)

2009-10-14 Thread shavinder

@lggy: here are a couple of thoughts:

-I think if you use inline javascript you would have almost limitless
possibilities of manipulating your data. You could even do without
foreachtiddler plugin in that case.

-At some point or the other, when data becomes too much, lets say 1000
entries or so for a table, you would need some kind of pagination. And
although right now I do not remember where, I do have seen a
pagination plugin somewhere(maybe at Eric'c tiddlytools.com)

-It would also be better(i think, but you decide:-) ) that the
displayed tables should be sortable, with clickable headers.(This also
you can grab from tiddlytools)

-You would also need some printing facility. For example you might
want to print out a search result. For that you could either use
publish macro( test whether is handles characters in spanish, cos it
does not do well with Gurmukhi/Punjabi characters) or you could use,
again, snapshot plugin from tiddlytools.

-Since your TW is a kind of searchable database, you need a high-
powered search plugin. There are many out there.

-Just like pagination, tabs can also be used to display data in
appropriate divisions.

You could always ask for help on this forum, the gurus over here are
especially effective at solving particular and unique problems :)

Another thing, there is a small typo in one of your help tiddlers. It
says you can add a new case from the left sidebar, whereas it is
actually in the right side bar.

-shavinder

On Oct 15, 4:08 am, Iggy ignacio.herre...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi! Thanks everybody for your comments. I have now some feedback to
 work on and new plugins to test.

 @FND: yes, Sidebar toggle button is in the footer. I forgot to
 configure it so that sidebar appears by default (now it is hidden by
 default). Anyhow, that button shall go somewhere different.

 @Tobias: thanks for your recommendations and suggestions. I get the
 point you say regarding Breadcrumbs, and maybe yes, that is not very
 useful. I may change this (and SinglePagePlugin) for some Tabs plugin.
 And may be also the History plugin.

 I'm still open for suggestions and for some help for the rest of
 pending issues regarding tiddLEGAL.

 Best regards, I

 On Oct 14, 4:44 pm, Tobias beertob...@googlemail.com wrote:

  HI Iggy,

   I like the theme!
   You definetely need to put the searchbox (or GotoPlugin?!?) into your 
   header!
   I don't find the breadcrumbs to be much helpful... my thing with these 
   is, that they really are not breadcrumbs in the classical sense of I am 
   in this part of the hierarchy, as well as being presented in a 
   left-to-right inline-element... I'd personally rather want to navigate 
   like this: prev historyDropdown next

  something like in the toolbox of 
  this:http://www.giffmex.org/webviewtw.html

   Maybe Eric's TaggedTemplateTweak and custom fields in content-sensitive 
   EditTemplates is better suited to your needs than FormTiddler 
   encryption.

  Tobias.
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[tw] Re: Question about closing tiddlers automatically, when you click to open another tiddler.

2009-09-26 Thread shavinder

Hello Nacho,
First welcome to TW world, its a wonderful thing.

I also think that too many tiddlers animating up and down can be
potentially confusing initially. Along with wolfgangś excellent
suggestion, you may also try TiddlersBarPlugin, found here
http://visualtw.ouvaton.org/VisualTW.html , with which all tiddlers
open up in a tabbing way on a horizontal bar.

happy tiddlering,
shavinder

On Sep 25, 9:41 pm, Iggy ignacio.herre...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi everybody,

 I'm sorry but I could not find an answer to this question in the
 thousand messages of the group.

 I am very new to all this Tiddlywiki world, and I am starting to play
 to set my own TW. So I apologize for my complete ignorance.

 One thing I do not like a lot (though if there is no option, I could
 get used to it) it is TW's behaviour when opening new tiddlers: if
 there is one tiddler opened, and you open a new one (whether from the
 previous tiddler or from the menu) then you get 2 tiddlers opened in
 the page. If you open a 3rd tiddler, then you have the 3 tiddlers
 opened... and so on. Of course, unless you click on the close button
 of each tiddler, or on the close all button, to close all of them.

 My question is: is it possible to change this behaviour, so that a TW
 page acts the same way as other Wikis like MediaWiki? That is, I mean,
 is there a plugin or something that would make a TW to close an opened
 tiddler, when you click another tiddler to open it (so that, you
 always have one opened tiddler and not 20 of them...)

 I guess I mean the way that webpages work on the Internet: you click a
 link and the browser jumps to the next page. MediaWiki works this way
 as well: If you click an entry or link, it takes you to a new page
 within the wiki.

 Thanks for your time and your knowledge.

 All the best,

 Nacho.
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[tw] Re: AutoOpenPlugin

2009-09-14 Thread shavinder

Its wonderful! never would have thought such a neat solution and
compact solution was possible!
Its working wonderfully. I just tried it out. There is one thing I
noticed, we can only create one tiddler in a minute, otherwise TW
alerts us that a tiddler already exists. I changed this line:
   var title=who+when.formatString('-0MM0DD0hh0mm');
to:
var title=who+when.formatString('-0MM0DD0hh0mm0ss'); //adding the
seconds

Now one tiddler per second can be created.

-shavinder

On Sep 14, 11:02 am, Eric Shulman elsdes...@gmail.com wrote:
  type some text and then hit send  ..it doesn´t create the
  tiddler...nitions

 huh?

 I tried this in an empty TW document and it created the tiddler just
 fine.  Perhaps you have installed a plugin that is interfering?

  ..and ..in the store.saveTiddler line...can I include
  tags ?I´d like to tag each tiddler as Talk (licked up by a
  FET that is displaying the chat) and temporary (so I don´t keep saving
  months worth of chats in each persons TW...

 easy... instead of the empty tags array:
    []
 just write:
    [Talk,temporary]

 enjoy,
 -e
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[tw] Re: Ok, here we go agian...different color on display area and background

2009-09-09 Thread shavinder

Well here is my attempt to sound interesting:
 A knot is and should be kept much more higher in importance due to
its complexity and creatively. What can a poor Nut do but to move in
either of the two direction? Now the knot is so much fluid, it is
rhythmical, its flowing and has a personality. The poor nut only has a
bolt to hang on to, whereas a knot can stand on its own.
In Punjabi there is a saying which points out the strength of a knot,
'that which you put with your hands, have to be opened with your
teeth'. Meaning that a knot is easy to tie but is quite difficult to
open when it tightens up!

Sorry for being off topic but couldn't resist to jump in


On Sep 8, 12:32 pm, Måns humam...@gmail.com wrote:
 LumpyMilk is a great blogspot - thanks for sharing!

 Btw - Danish has also the crazy expressions: noses that run and
 feet that smell.
 I don't know the etymological explanation - but I  know for certain
 that Danes believe that they are of old Danish origin... and not
 loanwords (if that is an English word?)...

 YS Måns Mårtensson

 On 8 Sep., 00:35, Eric Shulman elsdes...@gmail.com wrote:

   Yes the English language is knots :-)

  English is Tuff 
  Stoughhttp://lumpymilk.tiddlyspot.com/#%5B%5BEnglish%20is%20Tuff%20Stough%5...

  This Crazy 
  Languagehttp://lumpymilk.tiddlyspot.com/#%5B%5BThis%20Crazy%20Language%5D%5D

  -e
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[tw] Re: fields do not display in view mode.

2009-08-14 Thread shavinder

Thank you Eric. I shall try that out.

On Aug 14, 8:32 pm, Eric Shulman elsdes...@gmail.com wrote:
  out.push('|'+enrolled[i].title+'|wikify [[%0]] @marks'+enrolled
  [i].title+'|wikify [[%0]] @grade'+enrolled[i].title+'|');

 Note: in the above wikify syntax, the 'here' keyword preceding the
 @ is *implied*, even though it is omitted and is exactly the same as
 writing:

 out.push('|'+enrolled[i].title+'|wikify [[%0]] h...@marks'+enrolled
 [i].title+'|wikify [[%0]] h...@grade'+enrolled[i].title+'|');

 -e
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[tw] Re: ForEachTiddlerPlugin output alters with a space character

2009-08-09 Thread shavinder

Thanks for the replies. On adding  end '/part' the output was
fixed. I also discovered that actually the 'part partname' is not
supposed to be displayed, only its enclosed content is to be
displayed :)

The next step was to display the parts in the tabs, as shown in Udo's
examples. I have managed to rig that up too. But for some reason the
tabs are not showing any content. I first suspected that maybe(as in
Udo's example code) I should put the tabs code before the parts code.
So i juggled the script and managed to do that. Now in my firebug
console the final string being returned by the function writeOut
(context) is just as it should be. Still the tabs do not show any
content. Why?


On Aug 9, 3:11 am, Eric Shulman elsdes...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Aug 8, 10:13 am, shavinder shavinderpalsi...@gmail.com wrote:

  guys please have a look 
  herehttp://classrecords.tiddlyspot.com/#StudentGroupSliders
  In the function getGroupTitle() in the line:
   str = part\x22+(context.lastGroup?context.lastGroup:no Student
  Group) + \x22;

  when i introduce a space after part and before \x22 the
  foreachtiddler macro does not display the first group name. why is it??

 The space is necessary so that part ... is output, rather than
 part

 I think the problem is that you aren't ever outputting a final /
 part.  In addition to including the space in the above code, try
 also adding an 'end' clause to the forEachTiddler macro:

 end '/part'

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[tw] Re: TiddlyTools is unusably slow - is this me or what?

2009-08-09 Thread shavinder

Close the default opened tiddler. It becomes all right after that. I
always do that as the first thing when I open tiddly tools.

On Aug 9, 4:12 pm, Lyall lyall.pea...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am using FireFox 3.0.11 (Gentoo Linux) on an Intel(R) Core(TM)2
 Quad CPU    Q9400  @ 2.66GHz.

 Just sitting there, it causes FireFox to top out at 100% CPU, or, one
 entire core.

 Maybe a few too many active plugins?

 ...Lyall
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[tw] ForEachTiddlerPlugin output alters with a space character

2009-08-08 Thread shavinder

guys please have a look here 
http://classrecords.tiddlyspot.com/#StudentGroupSliders
In the function getGroupTitle() in the line:
 str = part\x22+(context.lastGroup?context.lastGroup:no Student
Group) + \x22;

when i introduce a space after part and before \x22 the
foreachtiddler macro does not display the first group name. why is it??
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[tw] How to access custom field passed through NewTiddler macro?

2009-08-04 Thread shavinder

i have this macro call:

newTiddler label:try custom field template:myTemplate
fields:k:v


and this in myTemplate:

!--{{{--
div class=toolbar border macro=toolbar
[[ToolbarCommands::EditToolbar]]/div
div class=title macro=edit title/div
div macro=edit k/div
!--}}}--

But in the new Tiddler which is created the textfield does not show
any value.

i tried to inspect the innards and i think this line in the
config.macros.edit.handler():

e.value = store.getValue(tiddler,field) || defVal;
is the one which return an empty string when the field 'customField
[k]' is passed as the second argument.

Additionaly:
 In the firebug i can see this below the title div:

div class=customFields style=display: none;input type=text
value=v edit=k//div

Any idea how can the field k be edited or viewed?
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[tw] Title field picks up extra value in Edit Template

2009-08-03 Thread shavinder

Please have a look here http://fnd.lewcid.org/tmp/testcase_editTemplate.html

When a new tiddler is created by clicking the link 'myLabel' in the
GettingStarted tiddler, the title field in edit mode shows the value
'myTitle myTag' whereas it should contain ONLY 'myTitle' (the string
'myTag' is being passed as a tag in the newTiddler macro). Also note
that the title being shown in view mode is just as it should be i.e.
'myTitle'.

black magic?
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[tw] Re: Title field picks up extra value in Edit Template

2009-08-03 Thread shavinder

Thank you guys, I shall open a ticket.


On Aug 4, 12:08 am, Eric Shulman elsdes...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Aug 3, 10:51 am, shavinder shavinderpalsi...@gmail.com wrote:

  Please have a look herehttp://fnd.lewcid.org/tmp/testcase_editTemplate.html

  When a new tiddler is created by clicking the link 'myLabel' in the
  GettingStarted tiddler, the title field in edit mode shows the value
  'myTitle myTag' whereas it should contain ONLY 'myTitle' (the string
  'myTag' is being passed as a tag in the newTiddler macro). Also note
  that the title being shown in view mode is just as it should be i.e.
  'myTitle'.

 That is very strange indeed!  Fortunately, I've found a workaround:

 If a 'tags' field is defined in the custom edit template, then the tag
 value passed in newTiddler doesn't end up in the title field.
 Thus, you can add the following to your template:
    div macro='edit tags' style='display:none'/div

 Note: although the above trick avoids the problem, I believe that this
 *is* a valid TW core issue, and a ticket should be opened...

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[tw] twt-treeview-executive is cool

2009-07-31 Thread shavinder

Just downloaded http://twt-treeview-executive.tiddlyspot.com/

It looks and feels like an expensive car.

Thanks
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[tw] Re: Easy Static Text Formatting?

2009-07-29 Thread shavinder

How about using visual editors from here 
http://visualtw.ouvaton.org/VisualTW.html
? I think it has what you want.

I would avoid MS Word for two reasons. First the auto generated html
code is too ugly for me. Too many useless tags, too much text.
Secondly it would go against the idea of a self contained, single page
app.

On Jul 29, 7:16 pm, SteveM sbma...@comcast.net wrote:
 Manually formatting Wiki text is tedious. I want to build a TW with
 static formatted text in many Tiddlers.  An easy way appears to be to
 just:

 1. Compose and format the content in Word
 2. Save it as an html file
 3. Open the file in a text editor
 4. Copy and paste the html content into the Tiddly and wrap it with
 html

 Is there an easier/more efficient way to do it?

 Thanks,

 SteveM
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[tw] Tiddlysnip in Firefox 3, No Context menu command

2009-07-25 Thread shavinder

I have installed TiddlySnip in FF 3.0.3 using the file hosted in the
tiddlysnip group. But I cannot find any snip command in the context
menu when I right click on a selection on a webpage. Is this some FF
3.x problem or something else?

I tried looking the ToolsTiddlySnip Preferences but there is nothing
there about the context menu. BTW is there any other way of saving a
snip besides via context menu? I have never used TiddlySnip before.
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[tw] Re: Can't change master password of tiddlyfolio

2009-07-23 Thread shavinder

Thanks for your help. I think I got it now.

On Jul 21, 12:09 pm, lyallp lyall.pea...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 I fiddled with the latest 2.5.2 version of tiddlywiki and the
 TiddlerEncryptionPlugin and changing password.

 The procedure I used is
 1. Open the TiddlerEncryptionPlugin
 2. Click the Change Password button
 3. Enter your prompt string for which you want to change the password
 4. Enter the password for the prompt string
 5. At this point, the tiddlywiki is decrypted and the password has
 been removed
 6. Save the tiddlywiki, entering a new password.
 7. The tiddlywiki now has a new password for the prompt string you
 entered.
 8. Refresh the tiddlywiki to confirm.

 I guess an enhancement would be to have two password entry fields for
 when a new password is being entered, to allow validation, otherwise,
 a typo could be disastrous.

 ...Lyall

 On Jul 21, 3:29 am, shavinder shavinderpalsi...@gmail.com wrote:

  i am experimenting with tiddlerencryption plugin from
  tiddlyfolio.tiddlyspot.com Its working all fine but i cannot change
  the master password. I click on the EncryptionChangePassword Change
  password new password Encrypt(TiddlyFolio) link button and fill
  in the new password but nothing happens on saving and reloading the
  tw. The password remains the same as the one initially set.


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[tw] Re: Can't change master password of tiddlyfolio

2009-07-23 Thread shavinder

Thanks a lot for the Ubuntu One and Lastpass suggestion. I have
checked them out and will try them. I already have signed up for
Ubuntu One and received their invitation but my ubuntu is 8.04 and I
have to either upgrade or clean-install to 9.04. I have the 9.04 CD
ready and shall do it maybe this weekend.

On Jul 21, 1:57 am, PJO pono...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi. I will have a look, though it sounds like a question for Lyall.

 As a precaution I recommend that you make sure that you unencrypt all
 your encrypted tiddlers first. (See the EncryptDecrypt tiddler, in
 particular the Troubleshooting Note). You may do this by renaming the
 special tiddler called Encrypt(TiddlyFolio) to Unencrypted. You can
 reverse this later or again check the Encrypt box on each tiddler as
 needed.

 FWIW I haven't been using TiddlyFolio for passwords all that much
 lately.

 I keep my passwords online now using Lastpass (www.lastpass.com) which
 I recommend highly (blog 
 post:http://wombatdiet.net/2009/06/16/lastpass-password-manager/).

 I will probably drop support for TiddlySpot shortly because of
 better / safer sync options: Dropbox and Ubuntu One for files and
 Lastpass for individual records. TiddlyFolio is still useful for the
 wallet records (credit card details etc.), passwords for e-banking and
 other things that should be kept well away from the basket of web
 passwords -- no point in a single key to absolutely everything.

 It's possible to accidentally upload unencrypted passwords to
 TiddlySpot; it doesn't use SSL for the xfr.

 I'll update TiddlyFolio to TW 2.5.2 and see if it's a 1.0 release.
 This is the first glitch reported for a long time. One thing I'd like
 to make go away is the business of clicking Allow to enable writing
 to disk.

 Paul
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[tw] Can't change master password of tiddlyfolio

2009-07-20 Thread shavinder

i am experimenting with tiddlerencryption plugin from
tiddlyfolio.tiddlyspot.com Its working all fine but i cannot change
the master password. I click on the EncryptionChangePassword Change
password new password Encrypt(TiddlyFolio) link button and fill
in the new password but nothing happens on saving and reloading the
tw. The password remains the same as the one initially set.
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[tw] Re: A simple word processor?

2009-07-18 Thread shavinder

You are right about snapshot plugin but as an after-thought I think
that is not what I am looking for.

I type out many letter at my office. As is usually the case these are
created in MS word and placed in separate folders on some hard disk.
Slowly and slowly their number grows and it all starts to look a bit
crowded even with separate folders. What I had in mind was if it was
possible to create these letters in a TW and use a TW instead of MS
word! These are usually simple documents which do not require fancy
formatting, just basic paragraphs, indents, lists.

VisualTW's easyedit and fckeditor provides with all the basic features
such as indents bullets, fonts etc. Its another matter that fckeditor
is actually meant for generating html in a wsyiwyg way. But the
problem would be that document would not be portable, meaning they
cannot be exported as a doc or an odt file and given over to some
colleague for further processing or editing.




On Jul 18, 5:28 pm, wolfgang wolfgangl...@gmail.com wrote:
 I think I don't understand your question. Because just for exporting
 tiddlers to PDF fckeditor isn't really needed. For example,
 SnapshotPlugin works pretty well if you have some pdf drivers
 installed.

 http://www.tiddlytools.com/#SnapshotPluginInfo

 regards...
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[tw] A simple word processor?

2009-07-17 Thread shavinder

I was wondering if there was a word processor plugin for TW. I found
visual TW plugin based upon fckeditor very close. But what I was
thinking of a scene like this; I type out all my letters and small
documents in my all-in-one TW and print it out right from there and in
case I need to pass on the doc to one of my colleagues I export them
as either PDF or maybe word doc ?
Does this sound too greedy?
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[tw] Re: Odd table behaviour with HTML formatting plugin.

2009-07-16 Thread shavinder

Its by design. Take a look at this thread.
http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki/browse_thread/thread/7b33d84e45804323

Eric has explained it quite well.

Try reading the plugin code. I found that quite helpful to understand
what was happening behind the curtains.
You would see that span tags are being inserted at every space. And
wherever a linebreak is entered a span/br/span is introduced.
What is happening is that every linebreak is being converted into an
HTML linebreak because this is the way wiki formatting is supposed to
work.

You could use hide linebreaks tag so that line breaks are not
treated as line breaks when they are rendered. But, in tables this
might be still a problem because span/span tag would still be
there, albeit empty!

If you do not need to use wiki syntax at all in your tiddler you
should use nowiki. This is the way i am using it too at
http://punjabi.tiddlyspot.com

On Jul 16, 2:39 am, Mark S. throa...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Has anyone else seen this?

 If I make a table under html, and put even a single space between an
 ending cell tag and a starting cell tag, the browser inserts an entire
 extra colum. That is,

   tr
     tdstuff/td tdmore stuff/td
   /tr

 (note the space between/td and td in the middle) ends up looking
 like

    stuff | extra-column | more stuff

 To make the mystery column disappear, I have to format the code like
 this:

    tdstuff/tdtdmore stuff/td

 or use the nowiki tag (which is ok for my purposes).

 It doesn't seem to mind spaces between rows, though. I guess its not a
 big deal, but it did catch me by surprise.

 -- Mark
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[tw] Re: HTMLFormattingPlugin interferes with my own HTML code

2009-07-12 Thread shavinder

I am writing some tutorials for learning Punjabi language at
http://punjabi.ninehub.com  which gives a free moodle account(moodle
is open source platform for creating online courses). I do not use
moodle's wysiwyg editor; I prefer to write my content in my own HTML
and css not only so that I can gain more skill.
What I do is I write my html+css in the tiddlers in my offline tw
file. When I am satisfied with the result I go online and copy the
same html+css onto my moodle page. In this way I have an offline copy
as well as an online copy. The fact that TW is so incredibly versatile
is partially the reason why I do this.
The problem as I mentioned earlier is with HTMLFormattingPlugin. It is
adding span /br /span everywhere in my html. To see an example
please see this http://shavinz-trial-tw.tiddlyspot.com/#[[Gurmukhi%20Script]]
You should see broken rendering of html in view mode of the tiddler.
Now if you disable the HTMLFormattingPlugin you would see the
rendering works perfectly fine.

Please note:
1. TWT-Blackicity is a not the problem. Its the HTMLFormattingPlugin.
2. The publish feature of blackicity works just fine, but as i
mentioned earlier I wish to gain proficiency in hand-coding my
content.

Thank you for all your help

On Jul 12, 9:35 am, Morris Gray msg...@symbex.net.au wrote:
 On Jul 11, 8:50 pm, shavinder shavinderpalsi...@gmail.com wrote:

  I am ok with disabling the plugin in quickstart_basics but if i
  disable it in TWT-Blackicity the topmenu visual gets corrupted which
  spoils the fun for me.

 I wonder how you are creating HTML pages and if you are creating your
 own HTML tiddlers?

 TWT-Blackicity has its own HTML publishing facility (on the toolbar)
 and I wonder if you are using that.

 TWT-Blackicity has no problem creating HTML pages from normal tiddlers
 with the HTMLFormattingPlugin operational.

 If you are creating tiddlers with your own HTML in them and
 experiencing the publish facility not rendering them properly, perhaps
 you could just create normal tiddlers with normal TiddlyWiki markup
 and let the publish facility create the HTML version.

 Is this of any help?

 Morris Grayhttp://twt-blackicity.tiddlyspot.com/

 On Jul 11, 8:50 pm, shavinder shavinderpalsi...@gmail.com wrote:

  I am using quickstart_basics(from tiddlytools.com) as well as TWT-
  Blackicity for creating offline html pages which later on I upload to
  my online moodle account at punjabi.ninehub.com  In both of the TW
  adaptations I have noticed that HTMLFormattingPlugin interferes with
  my html code rendering in tiddlers. It adds a span /br/span
  everywhere in the code! This breaks the visual rendering of my HTML in
  tiddlers(although the raw content, the html code is not touched). If I
  disable the offending plugin the rendering becomes OK.

  I am ok with disabling the plugin in quickstart_basics but if i
  disable it in TWT-Blackicity the topmenu visual gets corrupted which
  spoils the fun for me.

  Creating offline HTML pages in tiddlers is one use of TW which is I
  find very useful. This also helps me store all pages at one place.


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[tw] Re: Steps toward better documentation: requests, suggestions, ideas, wishlists

2009-07-11 Thread shavinder

My modest suggestion is that there should be two main branches in
docs. One for tw users, one for developers. I know this is usually the
case, but even so. In case of user branch it should include docs for
all the main plugins uptil now. In case of developer branch I wish to
see a detailed API like there is for most other open source project
for example jQuery. I wish that a person like me, who is not a hard
core programmer, or a plugin developer should be able to tweak a
plugin easily by looking up the API and adding a couple of lines of
code here and there.
Currently there is no reference material and the only way to learn is
by understanding other people's plugins, but thats way too daunting
for me. I have always succeded in learning things by referencing docs,
at django, jquery, dojo etc But I have not been able to do that here
at TW because there is no similar documentation

thanks
shavinder

On Jul 10, 1:36 pm, Alex Hough r.a.ho...@googlemail.com wrote:
 On the 'jQuery: little applications as demonstration models for
 people to try and see some of the advantages of jQuery' thread [1]
 Cory S made some comments and suggestions [2] about from the
 perspective of someone knowing little about html, css, javascript and
 jQuery, and about the problems on relying on help from the group and
 many TiddlyWiki help sites being 'quite old, and out-of-date'

 FND has made some good points on 'Announcing Tiddlywiki 2.5.2' :

 Perhaps that's due to it being a MediaWiki instance, so we might set
 up TiddlyWebWiki there at some point in the future if that's desired -
 but I don't think that alone would resolve the issue.[3]

 Wolfgang thought that a TiddlyWebWiki was a good idea and Jeremy
 thought I think we're all a bit sad about the barriers to
 contribution on the mediawiki instance at tiddlywiki.org. And the
 dissonance between mediawiki and tiddlywiki is awkward.[4] Given that
 TiddlyWeb is close to a '1.0 release' [5] I would like to propose that
 we could experiment with a TiddlyWebWiki instance. This would be good
 for TiddlyWiki help and TiddlyWeb adoption.

 But FND is very wise to state that this alone will resolve the issue.
 This is a coordination issue in the first instance. Requests,
 suggestions, ideas and wishlists need to be collected in the same
 place. Starting this thread is an attempt to do this.

 I wonder if those interested in documentation could form a special
 interest group – simply by using a set of conventions for
 communication would do it e.g. posting discipline, perhaps some skype
 action?!? – to look at the task in an organized way.
 I think that:
 1) incremental change can't really get us any further;
 2) it is a good time for the community to make an attempt at
 optimising its self organisation;
 3) in an open source community, the lead should come from community
 endeavor (ie it should not be dependent on funds from sponsors – in
 TiddlyWiki's case BT and Unamesa

 I see two steps toward better documentation.
 1) find out what people want: they can post to this thread, (or needs
 can be collected on this thread?)
 2) design a solution to be implemented on TiddlyWeb

 Alex

 [1]http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki/browse_thread/thread/7b248a...
 [2]http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki/msg/42e022937a91f83f
 [3]http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki/msg/eee861fc76ea2007
 [4]http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki/msg/036f21bb6fdd0500
 [5]http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlyweb/browse_thread/thread/a8532a3...
 [6]
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[tw] HTMLFormattingPlugin interferes with my own HTML code

2009-07-11 Thread shavinder

I am using quickstart_basics(from tiddlytools.com) as well as TWT-
Blackicity for creating offline html pages which later on I upload to
my online moodle account at punjabi.ninehub.com  In both of the TW
adaptations I have noticed that HTMLFormattingPlugin interferes with
my html code rendering in tiddlers. It adds a span /br/span
everywhere in the code! This breaks the visual rendering of my HTML in
tiddlers(although the raw content, the html code is not touched). If I
disable the offending plugin the rendering becomes OK.

I am ok with disabling the plugin in quickstart_basics but if i
disable it in TWT-Blackicity the topmenu visual gets corrupted which
spoils the fun for me.

Creating offline HTML pages in tiddlers is one use of TW which is I
find very useful. This also helps me store all pages at one place.
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[tw] Re: A demonstration of a tag based accordion menu

2009-07-05 Thread shavinder

Guys maybe I am misunderstanding something obvious but nevertheless I
shall bring it to your notice.
When the tw first open and I click on the Main Menu the drop-down
reveals both 'Intro TreeView' and the second 'Main Menu' in their
expanded state with their children revealed. They also have a '+'
displayed on their left end. I think two things are wrong here:
1. They should not reveal their chidren just yet. Only when I click
again on them should they do that.
2. The '+' should not be there when the children are already revealed.
It should be a '-'

Further this error state is rectified when you have expanded and
collapsed first menu once and then click on the second menu. Then the
'+' and '-' start displaying correctly.

On Jul 4, 8:32 pm, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 On Jul 4, 2009, at 11:16 AM, FND wrote:

  I do like the guiding lines indicating hierarchy.
  I don't like the additional gradients on nested items, as that seems  
  to
  add unnecessary noise and makes the items' text hard to read.

  So from my perspective, just keeping those lines - perhaps in black
  though - is the way to go.

 I've been working with TWT-Treeview-Accordion, as I've named it, a bit  
 now. [1] Since Morris has fixed the problem of the extra line between  
 items in Treeview trees, I could definitely live with the fix. [2]  
 Having worked with it a bit now I can see that it could be a little  
 confusing.

 On another note, I'd like to create new main menu items, but the  
 MainMenu tiddlers in the original TWT-Blackicity-Treview and the new  
 Accordion version don't look at all the same, i.e., when open for  
 editing.

 I'm not sure how to create new items in the latter. The instructions  
 for the former don't appear relevant. Or do I simply copy the base  
 code for a new item from the instructions tiddler to the MainMenu file  
 and then editing them according to the instructions?

 I know I've said more than once already, but one more time, I really  
 like this TW.

 Thanks, Morris.

 Sincerely,
 --
 Eric Weir
 Decatur, GA  USA
 eew...@bellsouth.net
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[tw] Trying to access tiddler.title in foreachtiddler in a template

2009-04-03 Thread shavinder

I have a tiddler containing student record, it is connected with its
own StudentFormViewTemplate and StudentFormEditTemplate. In the view
template i have a newTiddler macro which is supposed to create a
Qualifications tiddler. This new qualification tiddler should be
tagged with the title of the Student tiddler when it is created. But
since multiple qualification tiddlers can be created from one parent
student tiddler i need to count any alreadt existing qualifications
tiddlers and attach a suffix to the title of the new qualifications
tiddler. so for example lets say we have a student tiddler with title
as 'rollno10', when i create the first qualification it should be
titled as 'rollno10-qualification1' and tagged as rollno10. in order
to do this i am doing this in StudentFormViewTemplate:

span macro='newTiddler title: forEachTiddler where
'tiddler.tags.contains(tiddler.title)' write '' end
'{{tiddler.title}}+-Qualification + count' none ''   label:Add
Qualification tag:{{tiddler.title}} tag:QualificationForm
template:QualificationFormEditTemplate '/span

But cannot make it work.
Thanks in advance.
please try the AddNewStudent link in main menu here
http://shavinz-trial-tw.tiddlyspot.com/

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[tw] Re: Trying to access tiddler.title in foreachtiddler in a template

2009-04-03 Thread shavinder

Thank you. It worked.

On Apr 3, 4:25 pm, Eric Shulman elsdes...@gmail.com wrote:
  span macro='newTiddler title: forEachTiddler where
  'tiddler.tags.contains(tiddler.title)' write '' end
  '{{tiddler.title}}+-Qualification + count' none ''   label:Add
  Qualification tag:{{tiddler.title}} tag:QualificationForm
  template:QualificationFormEditTemplate '/span

 Macros don't generate text output... they create DOM elements in the
 browser.  Thus, you can't put a macro inside another macro and have
 the output of one inserted as text into the parameter list of the
 other.

 instead of attempting
    title:forEachTiddler ...

 you should use a computed parameter (a bit of javascript, enclosed
 in doubled curly-braces), like this:

    title:{{ ... calculate title here ... }}

 You can get the array of tiddlers with a given tag, use this function:
    store.getTaggedTiddlers('tagValue')

 Thus, for your purposes:

    title:{{ tiddler.title+'-Qualification'+store.getTaggedTiddlers
 (tiddler.title).length+1 }}

 enjoy,
 -e
 Eric Shulman
 TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
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