[tw5] I'm trying to install TW5-Bob plugin inside docker version of TW - need help

[skaczm...@gmail.com]

Hello,

I need TW5-Bob badly in docker container. I've found repo with dockerfile - 
https://github.com/m0wer/tiddlywiki-docker and tested it. Works perfectly. 
Now I'm trying to install TW5-Bob plugin, but I'm stuck. Official 
instruction - https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-Bob/blob/master/README.md - 
"Manual Version" is not clear for me. After a while of struggling, I 
decided to reach out for help. Maybe some of you already managed to install 
TW5-Bob in docker container with node and TW.

I will try to be more specific of what confuses me:

Container maps folder onto the host's file system, which contains *tiddlers* 
folder and  *tiddlywiki.info* file. TW5-Bob instruction tells to execute 
below commands:

git clone --depth=1 --branch v5.1.22 
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5.git git clone --depth=1 
https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-Bob.git TiddlyWiki5/plugins/OokTech/Bob 
mkdir TiddlyWiki5/Wikis cp -r TiddlyWiki5/plugins/OokTech/Bob/MultiUserWiki 
TiddlyWiki5/Wikis/BobWiki/

I'm not sure, if they need to be executed on the same level as 
*tiddlywiki.info* file created by container?

The second confusion is - how to modify init-and-run-wiki 
 
script from tiddlywiki-docker in order to execute TW in the way described 
in the TW5-Bob instruction:

cd TiddlyWiki5 
node ./tiddlywiki.js Wikis/BobWiki --wsserver

Please refer to init-and-run-wiki 
 
script - I'm not sure where should I include *--wsserver* argument.

While writing this message, I started to think, that maybe I'm trying to do 
it in the wrong way, and maybe better idea might be to find nodejs image 
and include script, that will clone TW and Bob plugin in the way described 
in the instruction. 

I don't know much about the docker, so I might be grateful for any help.

Best regards!
Sławek



 

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[tw5] TW-TOC - how to exclude all tiddlers with certasin tagh from tree

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Hi, I have a quick question - as tittles says, I need to exclude all 
tiddlers with certain tag from TW-TOC toc tree. How to do that? Seems like 
the original tutorial only shows how to exclude tiddler with certain name:

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[tw5] Re: Cross-link multiple wikis

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@Victor Dorneanu, buddy, if I may suggest you something, I think it is way 
better to go for "server" solution of tiddlty wiki like TW5-Bob 
<https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-Bob> or node js than single file wiki. I 
used single file approach when I started with Tiddly Wiki and it gets laggy 
very quick and you are not able to get anything from this wiki if enything 
breaks. In "server approach" each tiddler is a separate file, each image is 
kept in its original, file form instead of hard coding it. You have much 
more possibilities to remediate in case of trouble.

niedziela, 8 listopada 2020 o 20:53:29 UTC+1 skaczm...@gmail.com napisał(a):

> I did tests of TW-Searchwikis <https://kookma.github.io/TW-Searchwikis/> 
> plugin today and it seems to me like it is only looking for text in title 
> and tags, not in the body of tiddler. Please tell me if it is possible to 
> make it look for searched text also in the body of tiddler, because without 
> that it is useless for me, because I decided to use generic and auto 
> incremented names of tiddlers in order to save time and confusion of coming 
> up with unique names.
>
> piątek, 6 listopada 2020 o 09:16:28 UTC+1 Victor Dorneanu napisał(a):
>
>> Yeah, thanks for your clarifications. At least I think I know how this 
>> *might 
>> *work. But I guess "Searchwikis" will definitely improve the search 
>> across multiple wikis. And as you already mentioned: I need to find a 
>> method how to share indices across multiple wikis in a convenient way. 
>>
>> Thanks for your input. 
>>
>> Victor 
>>
>> On Friday, November 6, 2020 at 1:09:30 AM UTC+1 TW Tones wrote:
>>
>>> Victor,
>>>
>>> Since a bibliography is an index, perhaps it (the wiki)  can contain the 
>>> search part of mohammads "Searchwikis" that make use of an index of 
>>> each/all wikis making use of bibliographic entries. After a little work on 
>>> your on your  *zettelkasten* Wiki generate an index and drop it on the 
>>> bibliograqphic wiki, now a search on the bibliographic wiki will also be a 
>>> search of the *zettelkasten wiki*
>>> On the *zettelkasten wiki* create a method to find one or more 
>>> references to the same bibliographic link.
>>>
>>> We can make this almost seamless with more work, but my point is to 
>>> develop the appropriate practice.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tones
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, 6 November 2020 11:00:33 UTC+11, TW Tones wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Victor,
>>>>
>>>> Sorry for the confusion, replace my use of the word Glossary With 
>>>> Bibliography. 
>>>>
>>>> What is a back link?, it shows you where that entry is in use in other 
>>>> tiddlers.
>>>>
>>>> Having a separate bibliography html, you create and name bibliographic 
>>>> entries. In the First wiki you provide a link to the bibliographic entry 
>>>> using the permalink link / same name. Thus in the first wiki you can link 
>>>> to/reference that bibliographic entry multiple times. The equivalent of a 
>>>> back link is a search that can find all links to the same bibliographic 
>>>> entry (the links to the other wiki) but in searching the first wiki. The 
>>>> backlinking in the Bibliographic wiki only points to tiddlers linking to 
>>>> the entry in the bibliographical wiki and are of little use. 
>>>>
>>>> A much underutilised part of tiddlywiki seems to be the development of 
>>>> "soft" practices or procedures, perhaps supported by software (ie 
>>>> wikitext, 
>>>> widgets and macros). Commonly called work flow. Remember the most 
>>>> intelligent part of the whole solution is the human. Teach the human - 
>>>> yourself to follow some documented practices and you can solve many 
>>>> problems. I have at least a dozen practices like this, including building 
>>>> tiddlywiki solutions to build tiddlywiki solutions. It is all quite "meta" 
>>>> or self referential.
>>>>
>>>> I hope this explains what I have said a little better.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Tones
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, 5 November 2020 19:35:55 UTC+11, Victor Dorneanu wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not sure if I understand this correctly. 
>>>>>
>>>>> > as you search for a Glossary item, in your *zettelkasten *tiddlywiki, 
>>>>> you can have the search

[tw5] Re: Cross-link multiple wikis

[skaczm...@gmail.com]

I did tests of TW-Searchwikis  
plugin today and it seems to me like it is only looking for text in title 
and tags, not in the body of tiddler. Please tell me if it is possible to 
make it look for searched text also in the body of tiddler, because without 
that it is useless for me, because I decided to use generic and auto 
incremented names of tiddlers in order to save time and confusion of coming 
up with unique names.

piątek, 6 listopada 2020 o 09:16:28 UTC+1 Victor Dorneanu napisał(a):

> Yeah, thanks for your clarifications. At least I think I know how this *might 
> *work. But I guess "Searchwikis" will definitely improve the search 
> across multiple wikis. And as you already mentioned: I need to find a 
> method how to share indices across multiple wikis in a convenient way. 
>
> Thanks for your input. 
>
> Victor 
>
> On Friday, November 6, 2020 at 1:09:30 AM UTC+1 TW Tones wrote:
>
>> Victor,
>>
>> Since a bibliography is an index, perhaps it (the wiki)  can contain the 
>> search part of mohammads "Searchwikis" that make use of an index of 
>> each/all wikis making use of bibliographic entries. After a little work on 
>> your on your  *zettelkasten* Wiki generate an index and drop it on the 
>> bibliograqphic wiki, now a search on the bibliographic wiki will also be a 
>> search of the *zettelkasten wiki*
>> On the *zettelkasten wiki* create a method to find one or more 
>> references to the same bibliographic link.
>>
>> We can make this almost seamless with more work, but my point is to 
>> develop the appropriate practice.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tones
>>
>>
>> On Friday, 6 November 2020 11:00:33 UTC+11, TW Tones wrote:
>>>
>>> Victor,
>>>
>>> Sorry for the confusion, replace my use of the word Glossary With 
>>> Bibliography. 
>>>
>>> What is a back link?, it shows you where that entry is in use in other 
>>> tiddlers.
>>>
>>> Having a separate bibliography html, you create and name bibliographic 
>>> entries. In the First wiki you provide a link to the bibliographic entry 
>>> using the permalink link / same name. Thus in the first wiki you can link 
>>> to/reference that bibliographic entry multiple times. The equivalent of a 
>>> back link is a search that can find all links to the same bibliographic 
>>> entry (the links to the other wiki) but in searching the first wiki. The 
>>> backlinking in the Bibliographic wiki only points to tiddlers linking to 
>>> the entry in the bibliographical wiki and are of little use. 
>>>
>>> A much underutilised part of tiddlywiki seems to be the development of 
>>> "soft" practices or procedures, perhaps supported by software (ie wikitext, 
>>> widgets and macros). Commonly called work flow. Remember the most 
>>> intelligent part of the whole solution is the human. Teach the human - 
>>> yourself to follow some documented practices and you can solve many 
>>> problems. I have at least a dozen practices like this, including building 
>>> tiddlywiki solutions to build tiddlywiki solutions. It is all quite "meta" 
>>> or self referential.
>>>
>>> I hope this explains what I have said a little better.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tones
>>>
>>> On Thursday, 5 November 2020 19:35:55 UTC+11, Victor Dorneanu wrote:

 I'm not sure if I understand this correctly. 

 > as you search for a Glossary item, in your *zettelkasten *tiddlywiki, 
 you can have the search also look for the use of that term in 
 *zettelkasten*

 But I want the search to look for the term in *zettelkasten* and 
 *bibliography* as well. And this is what TW-Searchwikis is about, 
 right? 

 > If you kept a glossary centrally and its not too big you could 
 package and install it on any wiki.

 What do you mean by a glossary? I don't have a central tiddler where I 
 keep track of "terms" that are used in multiple wikis. 

 To give you a more precise example: 

- I wrote a short summary about David Allen's GTD book 

 
   - There I have a link to GTD 
    which is part of the 
   *zettelkasten*
   - In the GTD tiddler  
   itself I have a *source field* (origin of information, thanks 
   @bimlas for that) which contains a link back to the tiddler in 
   *bibliography*
   - Sometimes I want to link to some quotes (for example Getting 
   Things Done - Note 3 
   
 ) 
   in the *zettelkasten* wiki
  - what I want now to achieve is to show in Getting Things 
  Done - Note 3 
  
  
  which tiddlers in *zettelkasten 

[tw5] Re: Duplicated tiddlers after coppying from one wiki to another [BobLinux]

[skaczm...@gmail.com]

thx Jed, is it even a proper way of transferring tiddlers between wikis? 
About a month ago, I asked about API for "injecting" automatically 
generated tiddlers. You fixed it for the version 1.6.2, which unfortunately 
I am not able to run ( https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-Bob/issues/161 ), 
that's why I thought, that maybe I will just place new tiddler file inside 
folder, which might make things easier. What is your opinion on that?



piątek, 6 listopada 2020 o 18:46:19 UTC+1 inmy...@gmail.com napisał(a):

> It looks like this is a bug in Bob. I will hopefully get it fixed in the 
> next release.
>
> On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 11:55:47 PM UTC+1 skaczm...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Please help me understand how moving tiddlers from one wiki to another 
>> works on BobLinux server. When I copy tiddler from one wiki to another, 
>> within the same "index wiki" server produces duplicate with the same name 
>> plus _1. Basically, tiddler is imported and visible ion the "destination" 
>> wiki, but I don't understand what's the purpose of that duplicate. I need 
>> to move over 1000 tiddlers from one wiki to another and I'm afraid, that 
>> duplicating this number will only make things worse in the longer run.
>>
>> I hope, that below screenshot will explain everything. If you miss some 
>> information please let me know, I'm still new to tiddly wiki and my lack of 
>> knowledge might create some confusion.
>>
>> [image: double-tiddlers.png]
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Cross-link multiple wikis

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I want to achieve the same on my Zettelkasten type wiki. I want separate 
wiki just for resources and implement them in other knowledge management 
wiki. 

niedziela, 13 września 2020 o 12:29:22 UTC+2 Victor Dorneanu napisał(a):

> I don't know if this topic has been discussed somewhere else, but I'd like 
> to know if there is any "elegant" solution how to create links between 
> tiddlers in different wikis. 
>
> I've recently found Tobi Beer's quick'n'dirty solution 
>  which uses several macros to 
> have something like:
>
> <<. docs Documentation>>
>
> to link to a tiddler called "Documentation" in the "docs" wiki. If you 
> look at *$:/editions/docs *you'll see a "src" field where the location of 
> the wiki is specified (in that case docs.html). 
>
> I use the same approach for my personal Zettelkasten 
>  where I have:
>
> 1) one TW instance (single HTML file) for the knowledge base
> 2) one TW instance (single HTML file) for bibliography and sources (web 
> articles etc.)
>
> Are there any other ways to implement this? Thanks in advance. 
>
> KR, 
> Victor 
>

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[tw5] Re: How to move media files to external location in Bob Linux version 1.6.0?

[skaczm...@gmail.com]

Thanks, I found it, but unfortunately it doesn't work well. Images are 
indeed saved to ./files directory, but in RootWiki instead of IndexWiki 
(not surer why) and they are not displayed in tiddlers anymore, even after 
restarting wiki. Please note, that I have enabled media server as well and 
newly imported images appear in ./files directory of IndexWiki and are well 
displayed.

poniedziałek, 2 listopada 2020 o 21:53:07 UTC+1 inmy...@gmail.com 
napisał(a):

> The button is in the $:/ControlPanel, go to the Bob tab and then click on 
> Server Settings and scroll down a little to see the button.
>
> Make sure you back up all your data first.
>
> On Monday, November 2, 2020 at 7:49:14 PM UTC+1 skaczm...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have quite big wiki with a lot of jpg files. I recently faced some 
>> memory issues, so I thought, that moving all media files to external 
>> location might improve the way this wiki works.
>>
>> In version 1.4.0 of Bob Linux, there was button in settings called ""Make 
>> images external" and if I remember correctly it was doing the thing I want 
>> to do now, but the problem is, that I cannot locate a similar button in 
>> version 1.6.0 of Bob Linux server.
>>
>> Anyone has a clue, how can I do that?
>>
>>

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[tw5] How to move media files to external location in Bob Linux version 1.6.0?

[skaczm...@gmail.com]

Hi,

I have quite big wiki with a lot of jpg files. I recently faced some memory 
issues, so I thought, that moving all media files to external location 
might improve the way this wiki works.

In version 1.4.0 of Bob Linux, there was button in settings called ""Make 
images external" and if I remember correctly it was doing the thing I want 
to do now, but the problem is, that I cannot locate a similar button in 
version 1.6.0 of Bob Linux server.

Anyone has a clue, how can I do that?

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[tw5] How to use TiddlyWiki API in BoxLinux version

[skaczm...@gmail.com]

Hello,

I decided to use TiddlyWiki in BobLinux server version, because it is the 
most convenient way for me. Over time, I came up with few ideas of how to 
automate some tiddlers creation, but it looks like API described in 
official tutorial - https://tiddlywiki.com/#WebServer%20API doesn't work 
with this version of tiddly wiki.

Can anyone please help me with some basic functionalities like retrieving 
all tiddlers and injecting new one.

Best regards!

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