@Victor Dorneanu, buddy, if I may suggest you something, I think it is way better to go for "server" solution of tiddlty wiki like TW5-Bob <https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-Bob> or node js than single file wiki. I used single file approach when I started with Tiddly Wiki and it gets laggy very quick and you are not able to get anything from this wiki if enything breaks. In "server approach" each tiddler is a separate file, each image is kept in its original, file form instead of hard coding it. You have much more possibilities to remediate in case of trouble.
niedziela, 8 listopada 2020 o 20:53:29 UTC+1 skaczm...@gmail.com napisał(a): > I did tests of TW-Searchwikis <https://kookma.github.io/TW-Searchwikis/> > plugin today and it seems to me like it is only looking for text in title > and tags, not in the body of tiddler. Please tell me if it is possible to > make it look for searched text also in the body of tiddler, because without > that it is useless for me, because I decided to use generic and auto > incremented names of tiddlers in order to save time and confusion of coming > up with unique names. > > piątek, 6 listopada 2020 o 09:16:28 UTC+1 Victor Dorneanu napisał(a): > >> Yeah, thanks for your clarifications. At least I think I know how this >> *might >> *work. But I guess "Searchwikis" will definitely improve the search >> across multiple wikis. And as you already mentioned: I need to find a >> method how to share indices across multiple wikis in a convenient way. >> >> Thanks for your input. >> >> Victor >> >> On Friday, November 6, 2020 at 1:09:30 AM UTC+1 TW Tones wrote: >> >>> Victor, >>> >>> Since a bibliography is an index, perhaps it (the wiki) can contain the >>> search part of mohammads "Searchwikis" that make use of an index of >>> each/all wikis making use of bibliographic entries. After a little work on >>> your on your *zettelkasten* Wiki generate an index and drop it on the >>> bibliograqphic wiki, now a search on the bibliographic wiki will also be a >>> search of the *zettelkasten wiki* >>> On the *zettelkasten wiki* create a method to find one or more >>> references to the same bibliographic link. >>> >>> We can make this almost seamless with more work, but my point is to >>> develop the appropriate practice. >>> >>> Regards >>> Tones >>> >>> >>> On Friday, 6 November 2020 11:00:33 UTC+11, TW Tones wrote: >>>> >>>> Victor, >>>> >>>> Sorry for the confusion, replace my use of the word Glossary With >>>> Bibliography. >>>> >>>> What is a back link?, it shows you where that entry is in use in other >>>> tiddlers. >>>> >>>> Having a separate bibliography html, you create and name bibliographic >>>> entries. In the First wiki you provide a link to the bibliographic entry >>>> using the permalink link / same name. Thus in the first wiki you can link >>>> to/reference that bibliographic entry multiple times. The equivalent of a >>>> back link is a search that can find all links to the same bibliographic >>>> entry (the links to the other wiki) but in searching the first wiki. The >>>> backlinking in the Bibliographic wiki only points to tiddlers linking to >>>> the entry in the bibliographical wiki and are of little use. >>>> >>>> A much underutilised part of tiddlywiki seems to be the development of >>>> "soft" practices or procedures, perhaps supported by software (ie >>>> wikitext, >>>> widgets and macros). Commonly called work flow. Remember the most >>>> intelligent part of the whole solution is the human. Teach the human - >>>> yourself to follow some documented practices and you can solve many >>>> problems. I have at least a dozen practices like this, including building >>>> tiddlywiki solutions to build tiddlywiki solutions. It is all quite "meta" >>>> or self referential. >>>> >>>> I hope this explains what I have said a little better. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Tones >>>> >>>> On Thursday, 5 November 2020 19:35:55 UTC+11, Victor Dorneanu wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I'm not sure if I understand this correctly. >>>>> >>>>> > as you search for a Glossary item, in your *zettelkasten *tiddlywiki, >>>>> you can have the search also look for the use of that term in >>>>> *zettelkasten* >>>>> >>>>> But I want the search to look for the term in *zettelkasten* and >>>>> *bibliography* as well. And this is what TW-Searchwikis is about, >>>>> right? >>>>> >>>>> > If you kept a glossary centrally and its not too big you could >>>>> package and install it on any wiki. >>>>> >>>>> What do you mean by a glossary? I don't have a central tiddler where I >>>>> keep track of "terms" that are used in multiple wikis. >>>>> >>>>> To give you a more precise example: >>>>> >>>>> - I wrote a short summary about David Allen's GTD book >>>>> >>>>> <https://brainfck.org/bib.html#Getting%20Things%20Done%20-%20The%20Art%20of%20Stress-Free%20Productivity> >>>>> - There I have a link to GTD >>>>> <https://brainfck.org/index.html#GTD> which is part of the >>>>> *zettelkasten* >>>>> - In the GTD tiddler <https://brainfck.org/index.html#GTD> >>>>> itself I have a *source field* (origin of information, thanks >>>>> @bimlas for that) which contains a link back to the tiddler in >>>>> *bibliography* >>>>> - Sometimes I want to link to some quotes (for example Getting >>>>> Things Done - Note 3 >>>>> >>>>> <https://brainfck.org/bib.html#Getting%20Things%20Done%20-%20Note%203>) >>>>> in the *zettelkasten* wiki >>>>> - what I want now to achieve is to show in Getting Things >>>>> Done - Note 3 >>>>> >>>>> <https://brainfck.org/bib.html#Getting%20Things%20Done%20-%20Note%203> >>>>> which tiddlers in *zettelkasten *(and not only) are pointing >>>>> to it >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I hope this helps. >>>>> >>>>> Victor >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 9:02:59 AM UTC+1 TW Tones wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Victor, >>>>>> >>>>>> At the same time as you search for a Glossary item, in your >>>>>> *zettelkasten *tiddlywiki, you can have the search also look for the >>>>>> use of that term in *zettelkasten .* that is effectively what the >>>>>> backlinks would be. If you kept a glossary centrally and its not too big >>>>>> you could package and install it on any wiki. Drag and drop update. If >>>>>> you >>>>>> could go further you copuld let you add glossary items in any wiki but >>>>>> have >>>>>> a tool to export additions and include them in the central wiki. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Tones >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thursday, 5 November 2020 18:40:48 UTC+11, Victor Dorneanu wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi everybody, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> somehow I must have missed the notifications for this thread. First >>>>>>> of all thanks for your replies. I didn't know TW-Searchwikis before and >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> think that for searching tiddlers in multiple wikis that's definitely >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> perfect tool. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As for "links between multiple wikis" I'll try to give a more >>>>>>> comprehensive explanation: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - the reason why I've splitted "concerns"/domains/contexts in >>>>>>> multiple wikis is because of the size: I don't want to have a big >>>>>>> bloated >>>>>>> wiki, instead I want to have multiple ones >>>>>>> - one for the zettelkasten >>>>>>> - one for the bibliography >>>>>>> - individual ones for several domains like IT security, >>>>>>> nutrition, sports etc. >>>>>>> - one for collection of bookmarks >>>>>>> - etc. >>>>>>> - now when I create links e.g. from the *zettelkasten* to the >>>>>>> *bibliography* wiki, I also need to specify the location of the >>>>>>> wiki as well (like I've described at the beginning of this thread) >>>>>>> - imagine after some years you'll have hundreds of links from >>>>>>> one wiki to another >>>>>>> - let's say the location of one wiki changes (bib.html >>>>>>> changes to bibliography.html) >>>>>>> - then I'll have to update the links to reflect the new wiki >>>>>>> location (bibliography.html) >>>>>>> - and that's what I mean by "elegant" >>>>>>> - regardless of the method I use to interlink between >>>>>>> multiple wikis there should be a way to update multiple links >>>>>>> easily >>>>>>> - and this solution should also work in 15 years :D >>>>>>> - one thing that is not solved yet (at least I haven't found >>>>>>> a solution): >>>>>>> - let's stick to the *zettelkasten* -> *bibliography* example >>>>>>> (you have several tiddlers in *zettelkasten* containing links >>>>>>> to tiddlers in *bibliography*) >>>>>>> - inserting links in the *zettelkasten* to some tiddlers in >>>>>>> the *bibliography* wiki is easy (I still use the macro >>>>>>> mentioned before) >>>>>>> - but how do I show *backlinks* in the *bibliography* wiki? >>>>>>> - more specific: how can I show which tiddlers in the >>>>>>> *zettelkasten* wiki point to _this_ specific tiddler in >>>>>>> the *bibliography* wiki? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I hope my post is not that confusing. I'm looking forward to your >>>>>>> comments and suggestions. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Victor >>>>>>> On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 7:05:57 AM UTC+1 TW Tones wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Victor, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I will backup David's suggestion of Mohammad's searchWikis because >>>>>>>> you can link to specific tiddler in another wiki but they key is what >>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>> want to achieve. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The first rule is you can do anything with links you can on any >>>>>>>> website, use permalinks and permaviews, drag and drop between wikis, >>>>>>>> iframe >>>>>>>> one in another and create link that open in the the same target >>>>>>>> windows/tab. Bob or bobexe is critical if you may open the same wiki >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> edit in different tabs, windows or browsers. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Copy to clipboard is a way to take a search string from one wiki to >>>>>>>> another and a lot more can be done. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I recently responded to someone else's questions on the same >>>>>>>> subject and someone else was talking about capturing bookmarks with >>>>>>>> tiddlywiki which can include tiddlywiki itself. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> Tones >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sunday, 13 September 2020 20:29:22 UTC+10, Victor Dorneanu wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I don't know if this topic has been discussed somewhere else, but >>>>>>>>> I'd like to know if there is any "elegant" solution how to create >>>>>>>>> links >>>>>>>>> between tiddlers in different wikis. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've recently found Tobi Beer's quick'n'dirty solution >>>>>>>>> <https://tobibeer.github.io/TiddlyWiki5/> which uses several >>>>>>>>> macros to have something like: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <<. docs Documentation>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> to link to a tiddler called "Documentation" in the "docs" wiki. If >>>>>>>>> you look at *$:/editions/docs *you'll see a "src" field where the >>>>>>>>> location of the wiki is specified (in that case docs.html). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I use the same approach for my personal Zettelkasten >>>>>>>>> <http://brainfck.org/> where I have: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1) one TW instance (single HTML file) for the knowledge base >>>>>>>>> 2) one TW instance (single HTML file) for bibliography and sources >>>>>>>>> (web articles etc.) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Are there any other ways to implement this? Thanks in advance. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> KR, >>>>>>>>> Victor >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/a65e3ece-5e27-4370-8ef5-ff06b630a3een%40googlegroups.com.
