Re: [tw] [TW5] Is it possible to make a Copy2Clipboard widget?

[Rustem]

Andrew, did you check this out? https://clipboardjs.com/
Not that I know what I'm talking about, but I did not notice any visible 
selection taking place as I click Copy or Cut buttons.
Cheers
--R.

On Monday, June 27, 2016 at 5:38:51 PM UTC-7, Andrew wrote:
>
> Regretably, due to browser security, the execCommand copy only seems to 
> work on visibly selected content. So, a hidden div won't work.
>
>

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Is it possible to make a Copy2Clipboard widget?

[Dragon Cotterill]

Would you need to have something you could actually select? Like a 
temporary textara?

function copyTextToClipboard(text) {
var textArea = document.createElement("textarea");
textArea.value = text;
document.body.appendChild(textArea);
textArea.select();

try {
var successful = document.execCommand('copy');
var msg = successful ? 'successful' : 'unsuccessful';
console.log('Copying text command was ' + msg);
} catch (err) {
console.log('Oops, unable to copy');
}

document.body.removeChild(textArea);
}

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Is it possible to make a Copy2Clipboard widget?

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Andrew

> Regretably, due to browser security, the execCommand copy only seems to work 
> on visibly selected content. So, a hidden div won't work.

Ouch. Presumably one could still use a dynamically created div, though, even if 
it has to be (briefly) visible.

> I am trying to understand how the suggested widget and how params are passed 
> to the modal display would relate to tiddler identification and systematic 
> selection?

The code I was pointing to was the code needed to (a) gather variables from the 
paramObject of a message and (b) to feed those variables into the rendering 
process.

Best wishes

Jeremy


> 
> 
> Happy Connecting. Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S® 5
> 
> 
>  Original message 
> From: Jeremy Ruston  
> Date: 6/27/16 8:28 AM (GMT-07:00) 
> To: TiddlyWiki  
> Subject: Re: [tw] [TW5] Is it possible to make a Copy2Clipboard widget? 
> 
> Hi Andrew
> 
> On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 6:02 PM, andrew harrison 
> mailto:andrew.j.harriso...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Any suggestions on how to select rendered output without using an element id?
> 
> A reasonable approach would be to render the chosen tiddler into a hidden DIV 
> which is then removed once the content has been successfully copied.
> 
> Ideally, the message handler allow variables to be set for the rendering, 
> just as we do for the rendering of modals. Here's the code for rendering the 
> content of modals:
> 
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/core/modules/utils/dom/modal.js#L87-L92
>  
> <https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/core/modules/utils/dom/modal.js#L87-L92>
> 
> And here's the code for invoking that function with the extra parameters 
> passed with the tm-modal message:
> 
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/core/modules/startup/rootwidget.js#L26
>  
> <https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/core/modules/startup/rootwidget.js#L26>
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Jeremy.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 4:00 AM, Jeremy Ruston  <mailto:jeremy.rus...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Hi Rustem, Infurnoape,
> 
> Good news, I hadn’t realised that things had moved on.
> 
> Infurnoape’s plugin works in all the browsers I tried. It’s certainly 
> something I’d like to see in the core.
> 
> I’d prefer an implementation that allowed rendered output to be copied to the 
> clipboard, not just raw tiddler content. It would also be more robust if it 
> didn’t rely on getElementById; all of that is fixable, happily.
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Jeremy
> 
> 
>> On 25 Jun 2016, at 07:58, R <8pa...@gmail.com <mailto:8pa...@gmail.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Nice. Doesn't fit my use case but proves it can be done :D
>> 
>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 7:16 PM, infurnoape > <mailto:andrew.j.harriso...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Check out how I did this plugin. 
>> http://copy.tiddlyspot.com <http://copy.tiddlyspot.com/>
>> 
>> Happy Connecting. Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S® 5
>> 
>> 
>>  Original message 
>> From: Rustem <8pa...@gmail.com <mailto:8pa...@gmail.com>> 
>> Date: 6/24/16 6:03 PM (GMT-07:00) 
>> To: TiddlyWiki > <mailto:tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com>> 
>> Cc: jeremy.rus...@gmail.com <mailto:jeremy.rus...@gmail.com> 
>> Subject: Re: [tw] [TW5] Is it possible to make a Copy2Clipboard widget? 
>> 
>> Is it time to revisit the issue? Seems to be supported by all major 
>> browsers. http://caniuse.com/#feat=clipboard 
>> <http://caniuse.com/#feat=clipboard>
>> Would be nice to have a "copy" button appear on hover over any  piece.
>> 
>> On Tuesday, January 6, 2015 at 11:26:22 AM UTC-8, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>> Hi Andrew
>> 
>> I'd also love to have a "copy to clipboard" button. The HTML5 Clipboard API 
>> is proceeding very slowly, with very patchy browser support. There's no 
>> implementation of copy to clipboard that I know of.
>> 
>> Right now the best prospect for an implementation is within TiddlyDesktop, 
>> where we can rise above browser limitations.
>> 
>> Best wishes
>> 
>> Jeremy
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 7:05 AM, andrew harrison > 
>> wrote:
>>   Everyone else online is using ZeroClipboard because of security restraints 
>> but that is a hack in itself and I expect will stop working eventually. In 
>> addition, it only works online.
>>   The W3C is going to be implementing the Clipboard API for HTML 5 
>> (http://dev.

Re: [tw] [TW5] Is it possible to make a Copy2Clipboard widget?

[infurnoape]

Regretably, due to browser security, the execCommand copy only seems to work on 
visibly selected content. So, a hidden div won't work. I am trying to 
understand how the suggested widget and how params are passed to the modal 
display would relate to tiddler identification and systematic selection?


Happy Connecting. Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S® 5

 Original message 
From: Jeremy Ruston  
Date: 6/27/16  8:28 AM  (GMT-07:00) 
To: TiddlyWiki  
Subject: Re: [tw] [TW5] Is it possible to make a Copy2Clipboard widget? 

Hi Andrew
On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 6:02 PM, andrew harrison 
 wrote:
Any suggestions on how to select rendered output without using an element id?
A reasonable approach would be to render the chosen tiddler into a hidden DIV 
which is then removed once the content has been successfully copied.
Ideally, the message handler allow variables to be set for the rendering, just 
as we do for the rendering of modals. Here's the code for rendering the content 
of modals:
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/core/modules/utils/dom/modal.js#L87-L92

And here's the code for invoking that function with the extra parameters passed 
with the tm-modal message:
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/core/modules/startup/rootwidget.js#L26

Best wishes
Jeremy.




 
On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 4:00 AM, Jeremy Ruston  wrote:
Hi Rustem, Infurnoape,
Good news, I hadn’t realised that things had moved on.
Infurnoape’s plugin works in all the browsers I tried. It’s certainly something 
I’d like to see in the core.
I’d prefer an implementation that allowed rendered output to be copied to the 
clipboard, not just raw tiddler content. It would also be more robust if it 
didn’t rely on getElementById; all of that is fixable, happily.
Best wishes
Jeremy

On 25 Jun 2016, at 07:58, R <8pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
Nice. Doesn't fit my use case but proves it can be done :D

On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 7:16 PM, infurnoape  
wrote:


Check out how I did this plugin. http://copy.tiddlyspot.com
Happy Connecting. Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S® 5

 Original message 
From: Rustem <8pa...@gmail.com> 
Date: 6/24/16  6:03 PM  (GMT-07:00) 
To: TiddlyWiki  
Cc: jeremy.rus...@gmail.com 
Subject: Re: [tw] [TW5] Is it possible to make a Copy2Clipboard widget? 

Is it time to revisit the issue? Seems to be supported by all major browsers. 
http://caniuse.com/#feat=clipboard
Would be nice to have a "copy" button appear on hover over any  piece.

On Tuesday, January 6, 2015 at 11:26:22 AM UTC-8, Jeremy Ruston wrote:Hi Andrew
I'd also love to have a "copy to clipboard" button. The HTML5 Clipboard API is 
proceeding very slowly, with very patchy browser support. There's no 
implementation of copy to clipboard that I know of.
Right now the best prospect for an implementation is within TiddlyDesktop, 
where we can rise above browser limitations.
Best wishes
Jeremy

On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 7:05 AM, andrew harrison  wrote:
  Everyone else online is using ZeroClipboard because of security restraints 
but that is a hack in itself and I expect will stop working eventually. In 
addition, it only works online.
  The W3C is going to be implementing the Clipboard API for HTML 5 
(http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/clipops/clipops.html) but it still doesn't seem 
to work yet. I can't find any working examples online.
  The following code is what I have been using in TWC but it only seems to work 
in Internet Explorer but not in Tiddlywiki 5 because Javascript is stripped. I 
could spend time writing a widget for just IE but is it worth it?
  Can anyone tell me what direction I should go? The alternative is 
painstakingly selecting text and hitting Ctrl + C or right click to copy, or in 
the case of touch screen by long pressing and messing with those selector 
arrows. 3 or more steps vs 1 step. I am trying to aim for something that copies 
to clipboard online, offline, server side, client side, mouse, touch screen, 
and browser independent. Is that to much to wish for?Copy


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Re: [tw] [TW5] Is it possible to make a Copy2Clipboard widget?

[Josiah]

Ciao Andrew & Jeremy

I know nothing about how to do it. What I DO know is that a native copy 
mechanism that captures full rendered HTML is invaluable.

Personally I would love to see an add-on that cloned the rendered HTML of a 
macro output tiddler to a new tiddler. It would open a lot of possibilities 
that are currently cumbersome. 

For instance, that I could create a digest via a filter or list action of 
some tiddlers that I could then edit and add comments to before emailing.

I have played with http://copy.tiddlyspot.com/ and found it very useful 
already.

Best wishes
Josiah  

On Monday, 27 June 2016 17:28:10 UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Andrew
>
> On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 6:02 PM, andrew harrison  > wrote:
>
>> Any suggestions on how to select rendered output without using an element 
>> id?
>>
>
> A reasonable approach would be to render the chosen tiddler into a hidden 
> DIV which is then removed once the content has been successfully copied.
>
> Ideally, the message handler allow variables to be set for the rendering, 
> just as we do for the rendering of modals. Here's the code for rendering 
> the content of modals:
>
>
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/core/modules/utils/dom/modal.js#L87-L92
>
> And here's the code for invoking that function with the extra parameters 
> passed with the tm-modal message:
>
>
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/core/modules/startup/rootwidget.js#L26
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
>
>
>
>  
>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 4:00 AM, Jeremy Ruston > > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Rustem, Infurnoape,
>>>
>>> Good news, I hadn’t realised that things had moved on.
>>>
>>> Infurnoape’s plugin works in all the browsers I tried. It’s certainly 
>>> something I’d like to see in the core.
>>>
>>> I’d prefer an implementation that allowed rendered output to be copied 
>>> to the clipboard, not just raw tiddler content. It would also be more 
>>> robust if it didn’t rely on getElementById; all of that is fixable, happily.
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>>
>>> Jeremy
>>>
>>>
>>> On 25 Jun 2016, at 07:58, R <8pa...@gmail.com > wrote:
>>>
>>> Nice. Doesn't fit my use case but proves it can be done :D
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 7:16 PM, infurnoape >> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Check out how I did this plugin. 
>>>> http://copy.tiddlyspot.com
>>>>
>>>> Happy Connecting. Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S® 5
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Original message 
>>>> From: Rustem <8pa...@gmail.com > 
>>>> Date: 6/24/16 6:03 PM (GMT-07:00) 
>>>> To: TiddlyWiki > 
>>>> Cc: jeremy...@gmail.com  
>>>> Subject: Re: [tw] [TW5] Is it possible to make a Copy2Clipboard widget? 
>>>>
>>>> Is it time to revisit the issue? Seems to be supported by all major 
>>>> browsers. http://caniuse.com/#feat=clipboard
>>>> Would be nice to have a "copy" button appear on hover over any  
>>>> piece.
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, January 6, 2015 at 11:26:22 AM UTC-8, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Andrew
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd also love to have a "copy to clipboard" button. The HTML5 
>>>>> Clipboard API is proceeding very slowly, with very patchy browser 
>>>>> support. 
>>>>> There's no implementation of copy to clipboard that I know of.
>>>>>
>>>>> Right now the best prospect for an implementation is within 
>>>>> TiddlyDesktop, where we can rise above browser limitations.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best wishes
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeremy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 7:05 AM, andrew harrison <
>>>>> andrew.j@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Everyone else online is using ZeroClipboard because of security 
>>>>>> restraints but that is a hack in itself and I expect will stop working 
>>>>>> eventually. In addition, it only works online.
>>>>>> The W3C is going to be implementing the Clipboard API for HTML 5 (
>>>>>> http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/clipops/clipops.html) but it still 
>>>>>> doesn't seem to work yet. I can't find any working examples online.
>>>>

Re: [tw] [TW5] Is it possible to make a Copy2Clipboard widget?

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Andrew

On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 6:02 PM, andrew harrison <
andrew.j.harriso...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Any suggestions on how to select rendered output without using an element
> id?
>

A reasonable approach would be to render the chosen tiddler into a hidden
DIV which is then removed once the content has been successfully copied.

Ideally, the message handler allow variables to be set for the rendering,
just as we do for the rendering of modals. Here's the code for rendering
the content of modals:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/core/modules/utils/dom/modal.js#L87-L92

And here's the code for invoking that function with the extra parameters
passed with the tm-modal message:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/core/modules/startup/rootwidget.js#L26

Best wishes

Jeremy.







>
> On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 4:00 AM, Jeremy Ruston 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Rustem, Infurnoape,
>>
>> Good news, I hadn’t realised that things had moved on.
>>
>> Infurnoape’s plugin works in all the browsers I tried. It’s certainly
>> something I’d like to see in the core.
>>
>> I’d prefer an implementation that allowed rendered output to be copied to
>> the clipboard, not just raw tiddler content. It would also be more robust
>> if it didn’t rely on getElementById; all of that is fixable, happily.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>>
>> On 25 Jun 2016, at 07:58, R <8pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Nice. Doesn't fit my use case but proves it can be done :D
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 7:16 PM, infurnoape <
>> andrew.j.harriso...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Check out how I did this plugin.
>>> http://copy.tiddlyspot.com
>>>
>>> Happy Connecting. Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S® 5
>>>
>>>
>>>  Original message 
>>> From: Rustem <8pa...@gmail.com>
>>> Date: 6/24/16 6:03 PM (GMT-07:00)
>>> To: TiddlyWiki 
>>> Cc: jeremy.rus...@gmail.com
>>> Subject: Re: [tw] [TW5] Is it possible to make a Copy2Clipboard widget?
>>>
>>> Is it time to revisit the issue? Seems to be supported by all major
>>> browsers. http://caniuse.com/#feat=clipboard
>>> Would be nice to have a "copy" button appear on hover over any 
>>> piece.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 6, 2015 at 11:26:22 AM UTC-8, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Andrew
>>>>
>>>> I'd also love to have a "copy to clipboard" button. The HTML5 Clipboard
>>>> API is proceeding very slowly, with very patchy browser support. There's no
>>>> implementation of copy to clipboard that I know of.
>>>>
>>>> Right now the best prospect for an implementation is within
>>>> TiddlyDesktop, where we can rise above browser limitations.
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes
>>>>
>>>> Jeremy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 7:05 AM, andrew harrison >>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Everyone else online is using ZeroClipboard because of security
>>>>> restraints but that is a hack in itself and I expect will stop working
>>>>> eventually. In addition, it only works online.
>>>>> The W3C is going to be implementing the Clipboard API for HTML 5 (
>>>>> http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/clipops/clipops.html) but it still
>>>>> doesn't seem to work yet. I can't find any working examples online.
>>>>> The following code is what I have been using in TWC but it only seems
>>>>> to work in Internet Explorer but not in Tiddlywiki 5 because Javascript is
>>>>> stripped. I could spend time writing a widget for just IE but is it worth
>>>>> it?
>>>>> Can anyone tell me what direction I should go? The alternative is
>>>>> painstakingly selecting text and hitting Ctrl + C or right click to copy,
>>>>> or in the case of touch screen by long pressing and messing with those
>>>>> selector arrows. 3 or more steps vs 1 step. I am trying to aim for
>>>>> something that copies to clipboard online, offline, server side, client
>>>>> side, mouse, touch screen, and browser independent. Is that to much to 
>>>>> wish
>>>>> for?
>>>>>
>>>>> Copy
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Re: [tw] [TW5] Is it possible to make a Copy2Clipboard widget?

[andrew harrison]

Any suggestions on how to select rendered output without using an element
id?

On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 4:00 AM, Jeremy Ruston 
wrote:

> Hi Rustem, Infurnoape,
>
> Good news, I hadn’t realised that things had moved on.
>
> Infurnoape’s plugin works in all the browsers I tried. It’s certainly
> something I’d like to see in the core.
>
> I’d prefer an implementation that allowed rendered output to be copied to
> the clipboard, not just raw tiddler content. It would also be more robust
> if it didn’t rely on getElementById; all of that is fixable, happily.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
> On 25 Jun 2016, at 07:58, R <8pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Nice. Doesn't fit my use case but proves it can be done :D
>
> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 7:16 PM, infurnoape  > wrote:
>
>> Check out how I did this plugin.
>> http://copy.tiddlyspot.com
>>
>> Happy Connecting. Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S® 5
>>
>>
>>  Original message 
>> From: Rustem <8pa...@gmail.com>
>> Date: 6/24/16 6:03 PM (GMT-07:00)
>> To: TiddlyWiki 
>> Cc: jeremy.rus...@gmail.com
>> Subject: Re: [tw] [TW5] Is it possible to make a Copy2Clipboard widget?
>>
>> Is it time to revisit the issue? Seems to be supported by all major
>> browsers. http://caniuse.com/#feat=clipboard
>> Would be nice to have a "copy" button appear on hover over any 
>> piece.
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 6, 2015 at 11:26:22 AM UTC-8, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Andrew
>>>
>>> I'd also love to have a "copy to clipboard" button. The HTML5 Clipboard
>>> API is proceeding very slowly, with very patchy browser support. There's no
>>> implementation of copy to clipboard that I know of.
>>>
>>> Right now the best prospect for an implementation is within
>>> TiddlyDesktop, where we can rise above browser limitations.
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>>
>>> Jeremy
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 7:05 AM, andrew harrison 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Everyone else online is using ZeroClipboard because of security
>>>> restraints but that is a hack in itself and I expect will stop working
>>>> eventually. In addition, it only works online.
>>>> The W3C is going to be implementing the Clipboard API for HTML 5 (
>>>> http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/clipops/clipops.html) but it still
>>>> doesn't seem to work yet. I can't find any working examples online.
>>>> The following code is what I have been using in TWC but it only seems
>>>> to work in Internet Explorer but not in Tiddlywiki 5 because Javascript is
>>>> stripped. I could spend time writing a widget for just IE but is it worth
>>>> it?
>>>> Can anyone tell me what direction I should go? The alternative is
>>>> painstakingly selecting text and hitting Ctrl + C or right click to copy,
>>>> or in the case of touch screen by long pressing and messing with those
>>>> selector arrows. 3 or more steps vs 1 step. I am trying to aim for
>>>> something that copies to clipboard online, offline, server side, client
>>>> side, mouse, touch screen, and browser independent. Is that to much to wish
>>>> for?
>>>>
>>>> Copy
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>>
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Re: [tw] [TW5] Is it possible to make a Copy2Clipboard widget?

[Josiah]

I thought there was a plugin that did that?

On Tuesday, 6 January 2015 20:26:22 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Andrew
>
> I'd also love to have a "copy to clipboard" button. The HTML5 Clipboard 
> API is proceeding very slowly, with very patchy browser support. There's no 
> implementation of copy to clipboard that I know of.
>
> Right now the best prospect for an implementation is within TiddlyDesktop, 
> where we can rise above browser limitations.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 7:05 AM, andrew harrison  > wrote:
>
>> Everyone else online is using ZeroClipboard because of security 
>> restraints but that is a hack in itself and I expect will stop working 
>> eventually. In addition, it only works online.
>> The W3C is going to be implementing the Clipboard API for HTML 5 (
>> http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/clipops/clipops.html) but it still doesn't 
>> seem to work yet. I can't find any working examples online.
>> The following code is what I have been using in TWC but it only seems to 
>> work in Internet Explorer but not in Tiddlywiki 5 because Javascript is 
>> stripped. I could spend time writing a widget for just IE but is it worth 
>> it?
>> Can anyone tell me what direction I should go? The alternative is 
>> painstakingly selecting text and hitting Ctrl + C or right click to copy, 
>> or in the case of touch screen by long pressing and messing with those 
>> selector arrows. 3 or more steps vs 1 step. I am trying to aim for 
>> something that copies to clipboard online, offline, server side, client 
>> side, mouse, touch screen, and browser independent. Is that to much to wish 
>> for?
>>
>> Copy
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Re: [tw] [TW5] Is it possible to make a Copy2Clipboard widget?

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Rustem, Infurnoape,

Good news, I hadn’t realised that things had moved on.

Infurnoape’s plugin works in all the browsers I tried. It’s certainly something 
I’d like to see in the core.

I’d prefer an implementation that allowed rendered output to be copied to the 
clipboard, not just raw tiddler content. It would also be more robust if it 
didn’t rely on getElementById; all of that is fixable, happily.

Best wishes

Jeremy


> On 25 Jun 2016, at 07:58, R <8pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Nice. Doesn't fit my use case but proves it can be done :D
> 
> On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 7:16 PM, infurnoape  <mailto:andrew.j.harriso...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Check out how I did this plugin. 
> http://copy.tiddlyspot.com <http://copy.tiddlyspot.com/>
> 
> Happy Connecting. Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S® 5
> 
> 
>  Original message 
> From: Rustem <8pa...@gmail.com <mailto:8pa...@gmail.com>> 
> Date: 6/24/16 6:03 PM (GMT-07:00) 
> To: TiddlyWiki  <mailto:tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com>> 
> Cc: jeremy.rus...@gmail.com <mailto:jeremy.rus...@gmail.com> 
> Subject: Re: [tw] [TW5] Is it possible to make a Copy2Clipboard widget? 
> 
> Is it time to revisit the issue? Seems to be supported by all major browsers. 
> http://caniuse.com/#feat=clipboard <http://caniuse.com/#feat=clipboard>
> Would be nice to have a "copy" button appear on hover over any  piece.
> 
> On Tuesday, January 6, 2015 at 11:26:22 AM UTC-8, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
> Hi Andrew
> 
> I'd also love to have a "copy to clipboard" button. The HTML5 Clipboard API 
> is proceeding very slowly, with very patchy browser support. There's no 
> implementation of copy to clipboard that I know of.
> 
> Right now the best prospect for an implementation is within TiddlyDesktop, 
> where we can rise above browser limitations.
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> Jeremy
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 7:05 AM, andrew harrison > 
> wrote:
>   Everyone else online is using ZeroClipboard because of security restraints 
> but that is a hack in itself and I expect will stop working eventually. In 
> addition, it only works online.
>   The W3C is going to be implementing the Clipboard API for HTML 5 
> (http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/clipops/clipops.html 
> <http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/clipops/clipops.html>) but it still doesn't 
> seem to work yet. I can't find any working examples online.
>   The following code is what I have been using in TWC but it only seems to 
> work in Internet Explorer but not in Tiddlywiki 5 because Javascript is 
> stripped. I could spend time writing a widget for just IE but is it worth it?
>   Can anyone tell me what direction I should go? The alternative is 
> painstakingly selecting text and hitting Ctrl + C or right click to copy, or 
> in the case of touch screen by long pressing and messing with those selector 
> arrows. 3 or more steps vs 1 step. I am trying to aim for something that 
> copies to clipboard online, offline, server side, client side, mouse, touch 
> screen, and browser independent. Is that to much to wish for?
> 
> Copy
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Re: [tw] [TW5] Is it possible to make a Copy2Clipboard widget?

[R]

Nice. Doesn't fit my use case but proves it can be done :D

On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 7:16 PM, infurnoape 
wrote:

> Check out how I did this plugin.
> http://copy.tiddlyspot.com
>
> Happy Connecting. Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S® 5
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: Rustem <8pa...@gmail.com>
> Date: 6/24/16 6:03 PM (GMT-07:00)
> To: TiddlyWiki 
> Cc: jeremy.rus...@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [tw] [TW5] Is it possible to make a Copy2Clipboard widget?
>
> Is it time to revisit the issue? Seems to be supported by all major
> browsers. http://caniuse.com/#feat=clipboard
> Would be nice to have a "copy" button appear on hover over any 
> piece.
>
> On Tuesday, January 6, 2015 at 11:26:22 AM UTC-8, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>> Hi Andrew
>>
>> I'd also love to have a "copy to clipboard" button. The HTML5 Clipboard
>> API is proceeding very slowly, with very patchy browser support. There's no
>> implementation of copy to clipboard that I know of.
>>
>> Right now the best prospect for an implementation is within
>> TiddlyDesktop, where we can rise above browser limitations.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 7:05 AM, andrew harrison 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Everyone else online is using ZeroClipboard because of security
>>> restraints but that is a hack in itself and I expect will stop working
>>> eventually. In addition, it only works online.
>>> The W3C is going to be implementing the Clipboard API for HTML 5 (
>>> http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/clipops/clipops.html) but it still
>>> doesn't seem to work yet. I can't find any working examples online.
>>> The following code is what I have been using in TWC but it only seems to
>>> work in Internet Explorer but not in Tiddlywiki 5 because Javascript is
>>> stripped. I could spend time writing a widget for just IE but is it worth
>>> it?
>>> Can anyone tell me what direction I should go? The alternative is
>>> painstakingly selecting text and hitting Ctrl + C or right click to copy,
>>> or in the case of touch screen by long pressing and messing with those
>>> selector arrows. 3 or more steps vs 1 step. I am trying to aim for
>>> something that copies to clipboard online, offline, server side, client
>>> side, mouse, touch screen, and browser independent. Is that to much to wish
>>> for?
>>>
>>> Copy
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Re: [tw] [TW5] Is it possible to make a Copy2Clipboard widget?

[Rustem]

There is a JS library for that already. Demo at https://clipboardjs.com/ 
and it's on guthub  as well.

On Friday, June 24, 2016 at 6:03:48 PM UTC-7, Rustem wrote:
>
> Is it time to revisit the issue? Seems to be supported by all major 
> browsers. http://caniuse.com/#feat=clipboard
> Would be nice to have a "copy" button appear on hover over any  
> piece.
>
> On Tuesday, January 6, 2015 at 11:26:22 AM UTC-8, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>> Hi Andrew
>>
>> I'd also love to have a "copy to clipboard" button. The HTML5 Clipboard 
>> API is proceeding very slowly, with very patchy browser support. There's no 
>> implementation of copy to clipboard that I know of.
>>
>> Right now the best prospect for an implementation is within 
>> TiddlyDesktop, where we can rise above browser limitations.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 7:05 AM, andrew harrison  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Everyone else online is using ZeroClipboard because of security 
>>> restraints but that is a hack in itself and I expect will stop working 
>>> eventually. In addition, it only works online.
>>> The W3C is going to be implementing the Clipboard API for HTML 5 (
>>> http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/clipops/clipops.html) but it still 
>>> doesn't seem to work yet. I can't find any working examples online.
>>> The following code is what I have been using in TWC but it only seems to 
>>> work in Internet Explorer but not in Tiddlywiki 5 because Javascript is 
>>> stripped. I could spend time writing a widget for just IE but is it worth 
>>> it?
>>> Can anyone tell me what direction I should go? The alternative is 
>>> painstakingly selecting text and hitting Ctrl + C or right click to copy, 
>>> or in the case of touch screen by long pressing and messing with those 
>>> selector arrows. 3 or more steps vs 1 step. I am trying to aim for 
>>> something that copies to clipboard online, offline, server side, client 
>>> side, mouse, touch screen, and browser independent. Is that to much to wish 
>>> for?
>>>
>>> Copy
>>>
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Re: [tw] [TW5] Is it possible to make a Copy2Clipboard widget?

[infurnoape]

Check out how I did this plugin. http://copy.tiddlyspot.com
Happy Connecting. Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S® 5

 Original message 
From: Rustem <8pa...@gmail.com> 
Date: 6/24/16  6:03 PM  (GMT-07:00) 
To: TiddlyWiki  
Cc: jeremy.rus...@gmail.com 
Subject: Re: [tw] [TW5] Is it possible to make a Copy2Clipboard widget? 

Is it time to revisit the issue? Seems to be supported by all major browsers. 
http://caniuse.com/#feat=clipboard
Would be nice to have a "copy" button appear on hover over any  piece.

On Tuesday, January 6, 2015 at 11:26:22 AM UTC-8, Jeremy Ruston wrote:Hi Andrew
I'd also love to have a "copy to clipboard" button. The HTML5 Clipboard API is 
proceeding very slowly, with very patchy browser support. There's no 
implementation of copy to clipboard that I know of.
Right now the best prospect for an implementation is within TiddlyDesktop, 
where we can rise above browser limitations.
Best wishes
Jeremy

On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 7:05 AM, andrew harrison  wrote:
  Everyone else online is using ZeroClipboard because of security restraints 
but that is a hack in itself and I expect will stop working eventually. In 
addition, it only works online.
  The W3C is going to be implementing the Clipboard API for HTML 5 
(http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/clipops/clipops.html) but it still doesn't seem 
to work yet. I can't find any working examples online.
  The following code is what I have been using in TWC but it only seems to work 
in Internet Explorer but not in Tiddlywiki 5 because Javascript is stripped. I 
could spend time writing a widget for just IE but is it worth it?
  Can anyone tell me what direction I should go? The alternative is 
painstakingly selecting text and hitting Ctrl + C or right click to copy, or in 
the case of touch screen by long pressing and messing with those selector 
arrows. 3 or more steps vs 1 step. I am trying to aim for something that copies 
to clipboard online, offline, server side, client side, mouse, touch screen, 
and browser independent. Is that to much to wish for?Copy



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Re: [tw] [TW5] Is it possible to make a Copy2Clipboard widget?

[Rustem]

Is it time to revisit the issue? Seems to be supported by all major 
browsers. http://caniuse.com/#feat=clipboard
Would be nice to have a "copy" button appear on hover over any  piece.

On Tuesday, January 6, 2015 at 11:26:22 AM UTC-8, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Andrew
>
> I'd also love to have a "copy to clipboard" button. The HTML5 Clipboard 
> API is proceeding very slowly, with very patchy browser support. There's no 
> implementation of copy to clipboard that I know of.
>
> Right now the best prospect for an implementation is within TiddlyDesktop, 
> where we can rise above browser limitations.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 7:05 AM, andrew harrison  > wrote:
>
>> Everyone else online is using ZeroClipboard because of security 
>> restraints but that is a hack in itself and I expect will stop working 
>> eventually. In addition, it only works online.
>> The W3C is going to be implementing the Clipboard API for HTML 5 (
>> http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/clipops/clipops.html) but it still doesn't 
>> seem to work yet. I can't find any working examples online.
>> The following code is what I have been using in TWC but it only seems to 
>> work in Internet Explorer but not in Tiddlywiki 5 because Javascript is 
>> stripped. I could spend time writing a widget for just IE but is it worth 
>> it?
>> Can anyone tell me what direction I should go? The alternative is 
>> painstakingly selecting text and hitting Ctrl + C or right click to copy, 
>> or in the case of touch screen by long pressing and messing with those 
>> selector arrows. 3 or more steps vs 1 step. I am trying to aim for 
>> something that copies to clipboard online, offline, server side, client 
>> side, mouse, touch screen, and browser independent. Is that to much to wish 
>> for?
>>
>> Copy
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Re: [tw] [TW5] Is it possible to make a Copy2Clipboard widget?

[Stephan Hradek]

Am Dienstag, 6. Januar 2015 20:26:22 UTC+1 schrieb Jeremy Ruston:
>
> Hi Andrew
>
> I'd also love to have a "copy to clipboard" button. 
>

Take a look at GreaseMonkey's source. GreaseMonkey has a "CopyToClipboard" 
function and you could put it into tiddlyfox. So with tiddlyfox it would at 
least be available for FireFox users.

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Is it possible to make a Copy2Clipboard widget?

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Andrew

I'd also love to have a "copy to clipboard" button. The HTML5 Clipboard API
is proceeding very slowly, with very patchy browser support. There's no
implementation of copy to clipboard that I know of.

Right now the best prospect for an implementation is within TiddlyDesktop,
where we can rise above browser limitations.

Best wishes

Jeremy


On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 7:05 AM, andrew harrison <
andrew.j.harriso...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Everyone else online is using ZeroClipboard because of security restraints
> but that is a hack in itself and I expect will stop working eventually. In
> addition, it only works online.
> The W3C is going to be implementing the Clipboard API for HTML 5 (
> http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/clipops/clipops.html) but it still doesn't
> seem to work yet. I can't find any working examples online.
> The following code is what I have been using in TWC but it only seems to
> work in Internet Explorer but not in Tiddlywiki 5 because Javascript is
> stripped. I could spend time writing a widget for just IE but is it worth
> it?
> Can anyone tell me what direction I should go? The alternative is
> painstakingly selecting text and hitting Ctrl + C or right click to copy,
> or in the case of touch screen by long pressing and messing with those
> selector arrows. 3 or more steps vs 1 step. I am trying to aim for
> something that copies to clipboard online, offline, server side, client
> side, mouse, touch screen, and browser independent. Is that to much to wish
> for?
>
> Copy
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[tw] [TW5] Is it possible to make a Copy2Clipboard widget?

[andrew harrison]

Everyone else online is using ZeroClipboard because of security restraints
but that is a hack in itself and I expect will stop working eventually. In
addition, it only works online.
The W3C is going to be implementing the Clipboard API for HTML 5 (
http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/clipops/clipops.html) but it still doesn't
seem to work yet. I can't find any working examples online.
The following code is what I have been using in TWC but it only seems to
work in Internet Explorer but not in Tiddlywiki 5 because Javascript is
stripped. I could spend time writing a widget for just IE but is it worth
it?
Can anyone tell me what direction I should go? The alternative is
painstakingly selecting text and hitting Ctrl + C or right click to copy,
or in the case of touch screen by long pressing and messing with those
selector arrows. 3 or more steps vs 1 step. I am trying to aim for
something that copies to clipboard online, offline, server side, client
side, mouse, touch screen, and browser independent. Is that to much to wish
for?

Copy

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