Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] CSS media queries not working

2014-12-16 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Danielo


> Just to be clear, you mean it does not stop the content from being
> wikified, right?
>

That's correct, apologies for the clumsy wording!

Best wishes

Jeremy


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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] CSS media queries not working

2014-12-15 Thread Danielo Rodríguez

>
>
> The thing to remember about CSS generation is that the process is to 
> wikify the stylesheet tiddlers into a widget tree and then just extract the 
> text to use as the raw CSS. So, any HTML tags are ignored. This allows us 
> to use (eg) the reveal widget without the HTML elements that it generates 
> affecting the output.
>
>
Thank you Jeremy for confirming this. I was pretty sure about this, but 
with your confirmation now I feel better.
 

> Neither does it stop the content from being wikified.
>
>
Just to be clear, you mean it does not stop the content from being 
wikified, right? 

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] CSS media queries not working

2014-12-15 Thread Jeremy Ruston
> Currently I have this working with the  tags, so I don't think it is
any problem. Maybe Jeremy can confirm this.

The thing to remember about CSS generation is that the process is to wikify
the stylesheet tiddlers into a widget tree and then just extract the text
to use as the raw CSS. So, any HTML tags are ignored. This allows us to use
(eg) the reveal widget without the HTML elements that it generates
affecting the output.

Using the  tags in a stylesheet is harmless; it just means that the
text will be displayed in a  tag, and it doesn't affect the output.
Neither does it stop the content from being wikified.

Best wishes

Jeremy.




On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Tobias Beer  wrote:
>
> Hi Ton,
>
>
>> Jeremy: No, you can't insert  within the text of text/css tiddlers
>> because the text within the tiddler is not subject to wiki processing. But
>> the entire tiddler will be displayed in  tags anyhow, because it's a
>> text tiddler.
>>
>
> Still not convinced. Of course, when you put your css inside a pre it will
> be rendered like so. But that's not an answer as to how this affects
> applying it as a valid stylesheet.
>
> What happens to those html elements in stylesheets? I can see how *< foo>>* gets replaced before the styles are applied and then that's ok,
> but actual html markup within a foo block? That sounds just
> wrong. If *`css comments`* are allowed with backticks, then that would
> also require special handling by the core for stylesheet tiddlers...
> because you sure don't want backticks in your css declarations, when the
> actual commenting syntax is */* some comment in css */*.
>
> Best wishes, Tobias.
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[tw] Re: [TW5] CSS media queries not working

2014-12-15 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Ton,
 

> Jeremy: No, you can't insert  within the text of text/css tiddlers 
> because the text within the tiddler is not subject to wiki processing. But 
> the entire tiddler will be displayed in  tags anyhow, because it's a 
> text tiddler.
>
 
Still not convinced. Of course, when you put your css inside a pre it will 
be rendered like so. But that's not an answer as to how this affects 
applying it as a valid stylesheet.

What happens to those html elements in stylesheets? I can see how *<>* gets replaced before the styles are applied and then that's ok, but 
actual html markup within a foo block? That sounds just 
wrong. If *`css comments`* are allowed with backticks, then that would also 
require special handling by the core for stylesheet tiddlers... because you 
sure don't want backticks in your css declarations, when the actual 
commenting syntax is */* some comment in css */*.

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] CSS media queries not working

2014-12-15 Thread Ton Gerner
Hi Danielo, Tobias,

In the past I did use triple backticks in stylesheets and I asked also 
about the  ... , see the thread [1]

Excerpts from this thread:

Jeremy (about text/css and triple backticks):

You should only store stylesheets as text/css if they don't contain any TW5 
macros or transclusions. If you use transclusions and macros (like the 
stylesheets in the core themes), then it is perfectly OK to use triple 
backticks to mark sections that you want to exclude from wikification.

My question: Is it allowed to use ... around the styles in the 
stylesheet while using txt/css as type?

Jeremy: No, you can't insert  within the text of text/css tiddlers 
because the text within the tiddler is not subject to wiki processing. But 
the entire tiddler will be displayed in  tags anyhow, because it's a 
text tiddler.

Cheers,

Ton

[1] https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/UOBPRMjWbqU/XSY9M2fKRHsJ


On Monday, December 15, 2014 2:44:25 PM UTC+1, Tobias Beer wrote:
>
> Hi Danielo,
>  
>
>> Just for cosmetical representation.
>>
>
> I sure understand that this is why you would do it ...but is that allowed? 
> Where does it say so?
>
> Removing those stops the stylesheet from breaking.
>>>
>>  
>
> It does not happens on my case.
>>
>
> That sounds odd. It seems to do it for me.
>
> Best wishes, Tobias. 
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] CSS media queries not working

2014-12-15 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Danielo,
 

> Just for cosmetical representation.
>

I sure understand that this is why you would do it ...but is that allowed? 
Where does it say so?

Removing those stops the stylesheet from breaking.
>>
>  

It does not happens on my case.
>

That sounds odd. It seems to do it for me.

Best wishes, Tobias. 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] CSS media queries not working

2014-12-15 Thread Danielo Rodríguez

>
> Allow me to ask again, 
>
As many times as you want
 

> is it and why would it be allowed to wrap a tiddler tagged 
> *$:/tags/Stylesheet* in...
>
> 
> .foo{}
> 
>
> ?
>
>
Just for cosmetical representation.
 

> Removing those stops the stylesheet from breaking.
>

It does not happens on my case. As I said, the problem got fixed changint 
the mentioned stylesheet to its old values. The awesome thing is that it 
still working even with a different structure. Currently I have this 
working with the  tags, so I don't think it is any problem. Maybe 
Jeremy can confirm this. 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] CSS media queries not working

2014-12-15 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Danielo,
 

> They have to be tagged topMenu and button.
>

I knew, I wasn't looking close enough. ^_^
 

> I found where the problem is, but I don't understand the problem at all. 
> It is the $:/_stylesheet/mobile/menu.css 
> There are some differences, but I don't understand why they make the 
> hidden to not be applied. If I copy the original tiddler to the "copy" 
> version it works as expected, even when the "copy" has a different 
> structure.
>

Allow me to ask again, is it and why would it be allowed to wrap a tiddler 
tagged *$:/tags/Stylesheet* in...


.foo{}


?

Removing those stops the stylesheet from breaking.

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] CSS media queries not working

2014-12-15 Thread Danielo Rodríguez


El lunes, 15 de diciembre de 2014 00:41:08 UTC+1, Tobias Beer escribió:
>
>
> Take a look at that tiddler, it constructs your TopMenu via the list 
> widget by iterating all items tagged topmenu... including that 
> stylesheet... which surely isn't a component of your topmenu, or is it?
>
>
They have to be tagged topMenu and button.

I found where the problem is, but I don't understand the problem at all. It 
is the $:/_stylesheet/mobile/menu.css 
There are some differences, but I don't understand why they make the hidden 
to not be applied. If I copy the original tiddler to the "copy" version it 
works as expected, even when the "copy" has a different structure.

Here is the diff of both files

https://www.diffchecker.com/zhmffj15

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[tw] Re: [TW5] CSS media queries not working

2014-12-14 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Danielo,
 

> > Also, in $:/_TopSideBar, I don' think you want to transclude that 
> stylesheet tagged topmenu with the rest of the stuff, do you?  

 

What I'm transcluding where?


Take a look at that tiddler, it constructs your TopMenu via the list widget 
by iterating all items tagged topmenu... including that stylesheet... which 
surely isn't a component of your topmenu, or is it?

Best wishes, Tobias. 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] CSS media queries not working

2014-12-14 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Hello Tobias, 

Thank you very much for your help. I will try your suggestions as soon as I 
have a computer (on my mobile it looks fine). 

But, I don't understand this sentence :

Also, in $:/_TopSideBar, I don' think you want to transclude that stylesheet 
tagged topmenu with the rest of the stuff, do you?

What I'm transcluding where? 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] CSS media queries not working

2014-12-14 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Danielo,

First of all, is it permissible to wrap any tiddler tagged 
*$:/tagsStylesheet* in **?
Semantically that seems quite odd, to say the least.

As to your problem, for reasons that I fail to understand, if I just put...

html .tw-topmenu {
 background : #ececec !important;
 height : 45px;
 margin : 0;
 position : fixed;
 top : 0;
 left  : 0;
 width : 100%;
 z-index: 100;
}

...into *$:/_stylesheet/topmenu* in either one, it works in the first but 
not in "copy". So, in fact, it's not that it's properly hidden in "copy" 
but rather never applied!

Also, in *$:/_TopSideBar*, I don' think you want to transclude that 
stylesheet tagged *topmenu* with the rest of the stuff, do you?

Now, here's the final "Aaaahhh, I knew it!"...

If I remove those awkward ** tags from your StyleSheets, things 
are finally starting to work!

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] CSS media queries not working

2014-12-14 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Any CSS magician can help me? 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] CSS media queries not working

2014-12-12 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Here are two examples:

This one works as expected:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/g3xag85xky9looz/mobile_theme.htm?dl=0

This one does not:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nzrvhoiudqiskk9/mobile_theme%20-%20Copy.htm?dl=0

I can't understand why. Both are 99% identical.

El viernes, 12 de diciembre de 2014 17:42:32 UTC+1, Danielo Rodríguez 
escribió:
>
> Hello,
>
> Could someone help my whi this media queries are not working? only the query 
> for mobile works. But when I expand the window and width goes over 960 it 
> does not 
> apply the display none property.
>
> Any clue? This worked previously, but it is nor working right now, and I 
> can't find any difference.
>
> /* STANDARD MEDIA MIN. 960px */
> @media (min-width: 961) {
>  /* TOP MENU */
>  html .tw-topmenu {
> display: none;
>  }
> }
>
> /* MOBILE MEDIA MAX. 960px */
> @media (max-width: 960px) {
>  html .tc-sidebar-header {
>   padding: 45px 0 0 15px;
>  }
>  /* TOP MENU */
>  html .tw-topmenu {
>   padding : 0px 8px;
>   overflow: hidden;
>  }
>
> html .tc-tiddler-controls button svg {
>  height  : 1em;
> }
>
> }
>
>
>
>

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