[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyFlash!

2009-04-03 Thread the kettle sings

LOL dude!

On Apr 1, 9:01 am, Paul Downey (psd) paul.s.dow...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Hi There!

 I'm a big fan of TiddlyWiki, and have enjoyed using it for a couple of
 years now, even being motivated enough to develop the odd patch and
 plugin! All well and good, but I have noticed a few fundamental
 weaknesses with TiddlyWiki which I think I've managed to address in a
 new product which I've been quietly working on in the background. It's
 something I'm really quite proud of, and which I'd like to share with
 you all today!

 So I hereby announce TiddlyFlash - a clean-room implementation of
 TiddlyWiki written in Adobe ActionScript and targeted at Flash Player
 10.

 TiddlyFlash has a number of advantages over the current HTML/CSS/
 JavaScript version of TiddlyWiki, notably:

 * Flash is universal where as capable browsers are becoming harder to
 find. Using Flash gives developers a write once, run anywhere
 experience, freeing them from worrying about cross-browser issues.
 Everybody loves Flash and has it installed and enabled on their
 desktops, laptops and phones.

 * TiddlyFlash users benefit from a number of advanced features such as
 animations, sound, videos, control of web cameras and 3D bump-mapped
 texture and shading. These are essential for most wiki use-cases and
 heralding a new era of animation, slick-shading and other Because I
 Can developments not possible with current browsers. This
 particularly important for those of us who use the current browser of
 choice, Internet Explorer.

 * SEO is a solved problem for Flash now Google indexes the text inside
 many Flash files.

 * Accessibility is a solved problem for Flash: it's simple to add key-
 shortcuts and you can always keep a separate copy of the text for use
 in screen readers.

 * it is possible, indeed trivial, to hide the TiddlyFlash content
 inside a binary Flash file, allowing TiddlyFlash to hide text from Web
 and desktop searching technologies. This is particularly useful when
 running a guerilla TiddlyFlash on a machine with Google search or
 Apple Spotlight installed and you don't want people to find your
 content.

 * furthermore, it seems feasible to implement Digital Rights
 Management (DRM) for TiddlyFlash text, essential for building business
 critical documents.

 * offline mode, something which we know has been tricky for some
 browsers, is now a simple matter of downloading the Adobe AIR platform
 and running a version compiled, packaged and made available for this
 ubiquitous environment.

 * browser cookies are easily cleared and are often blocked by some
 people overly cautious about privacy. Such people aren't as aware of
 Shared Local Objects (LSO)* and it's unusual for them to be cleared,
 greatly assisting the more sticky storage of TiddlyFlash options.

 * whilst it's true that there are few viable ways of building Flash
 applications with free software, the excellent Adobe Flash CS4 is a
 very reasonable $699, so it's actually better than free to write and
 distribute Flash programs. It is true that there are some minor
 licensing things to worry about, but in many cases it doesn't cost
 anything to distribute Flash programs.

 * view-source of TiddlyWiki has introduced a number of security issues
 and has been an obstacle to anyone wanting to develop commercial
 TiddlyWiki plugins. TiddlyFlash brings the advantage of a closed-
 source ecosystem, protecting my and plugin developers revenue streams.

 * the unconventional Open Source nature of TiddlyWiki can be an issue
 for certain users, notably those within enterprises, therefore
 TiddlyFlash will be delivered as a trusted-source binary. Of course
 there will be a conventional EULA to OK to protect your supplier from
 errors, inadvertent or otherwise. I may consider providing paid-for
 support contracts given that shouldn't be too onerous to meet the
 expected standards for a typical commercial software product, and can
 probably be outsourced.

 * trusted-source code means we can have a TiddlyFlashStore, where you
 will be able to buy quality controlled TiddlyFlash software and where
 developers may upload their plugins and verticals on a reasonably and
 non-discriminatory fair revenue share. Registration will of course be
 subject to my approval and at a nominal fee of, say $99 USD per
 application.

 * ActionScript is a much nicer version of JavaScript, and coming from
 a single vendor, means it is more coherently designed, stable, better
 documented and with an understandable roadmap than the supposedly
 standard ECMA JavaScript. Anyone who decides to join the TiddlyFlash
 Developers' Programme will find writing plugins and extensions far
 easier and more satisfying. (Note, I may keep some of the more
 advanced developer features hidden, depending if I decide to write my
 own plugins. I may also run premium developer courses for those
 wanting to upskill from JavaScript to TiddlyFlash ActionScript.)

 * the future of the Web is Rich Internet 

[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyFlash!

2009-04-01 Thread Russ Thomas
2009/4/1 Paul Downey (psd) paul.s.dow...@gmail.com

 As you can imagine, I'm very excited by this project, as indeed I was
 by the idea of a mainstream TiddlyWiki for the Enterprise** last year.
 Aren't you?

 Paul (psd)


No, I'm not.  It's bloody dreadful.  I got all excited and installed it
straight away.  It worked great, fantastic, a flash based TW... amazing!

That is, until I opened a tiddler with an embedded flash object which is
programmed to scan for all tiddlywiki files held locally.  Which it did.
And found itself - the one it was running in.

I now find myself at the bottom of a very deep gravity well caused by this
idiotic idea of yours.  Pretty soon I expect to be reduced to a
singularity.  Contact CERN somebody - tell them I've done it!

Oh wait... Stack overflow

phew, that was close.

;)

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[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyFlash!

2009-04-01 Thread Morris Gray

Choosing to be out of my depth again I am very interested.  However is
there TiddlyFlash for dummies?  I followed the links above and found
nothing to download or try. Searching http://blog.whatfettle.com for
TiddlyFlash returned nothing.

AIso I discovered Chumby about an hour ago http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chumby
http://www.chumby.com/ and wonder if TiddlyFlash or something
associated with it would interface with it somehow. It is a gadget now
but I think it might be a forerunner of appliances for the internet
that is long overdue. i.e. something my 92 yo mother could use, email
only reader, directories, crossword dictionaries, etc.

I wonder if you could (assuming no knowledge at all) start from the
beginning and explain, show, demonstrate what you are talking about?

Morris Gray
http://twhelp.tiddlyspot.com
A TiddlyWiki help file for beginners



On Apr 1, 9:13 pm, Russ Thomas russgtho...@gmail.com wrote:
 2009/4/1 Paul Downey (psd) paul.s.dow...@gmail.com

  As you can imagine, I'm very excited by this project, as indeed I was
  by the idea of a mainstream TiddlyWiki for the Enterprise** last year.
  Aren't you?

  Paul (psd)

 No, I'm not.  It's bloody dreadful.  I got all excited and installed it
 straight away.  It worked great, fantastic, a flash based TW... amazing!

 That is, until I opened a tiddler with an embedded flash object which is
 programmed to scan for all tiddlywiki files held locally.  Which it did.
 And found itself - the one it was running in.

 I now find myself at the bottom of a very deep gravity well caused by this
 idiotic idea of yours.  Pretty soon I expect to be reduced to a
 singularity.  Contact CERN somebody - tell them I've done it!

 Oh wait... Stack overflow

 phew, that was close.

 ;)
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[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyFlash!

2009-04-01 Thread timsan...@googlemail.com

I'm wondering if it would be impossible to embed a tiddlyflash wiki
swf, password protected of course, as a data uri inside an ordinary
tiddlywiki.
I could see real value in this, so that multiple highly graphical
flash wikis can be rendered safely off an ordinary TiddlyWiki

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[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyFlash!

2009-04-01 Thread smartrics

Can I run Java Applets in TiddlyFlash?

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[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyFlash!

2009-04-01 Thread Mark S.


Any chance of incorporating Oracle 9i or higher into the framework? TW
is lacking a true database engine. This action alone would create an
adaptive zero administration process within the context of a bi-
directional  application, harnessing paradigm-shifting energies into a
nexus of a semi-open-source scalable knowledge base.

Deployed on a server, the licensing costs probably wouldn't exceed
50,000. Since its now SEO compatible, this cost could be recouped by
selling advertising terms inside the TiddlyFalse environment.

-- Mark




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[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyFlash!

2009-04-01 Thread mck


I believe I found the relevant link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_Fools%27_Day

Cheers!

Mark


On Apr 1, 2:51 pm, Måns humam...@gmail.com wrote:
 Is it just Morris and I who cannot find a link to tiddlyFlash
 anywhere??
 Would someone please point in some direction - I can't wait to see
 what it is capable of..

 YS Måns Mårtensson

 On 1 Apr., 17:54, Mark S. throa...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Any chance of incorporating Oracle 9i or higher into the framework? TW
  is lacking a true database engine. This action alone would create an
  adaptive zero administration process within the context of a bi-
  directional  application, harnessing paradigm-shifting energies into a
  nexus of a semi-open-source scalable knowledge base.

  Deployed on a server, the licensing costs probably wouldn't exceed
  50,000. Since its now SEO compatible, this cost could be recouped by
  selling advertising terms inside the TiddlyFalse environment.

  -- Mark
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[tw] Re: Announcing TiddlyFlash!

2009-04-01 Thread Måns

Thanks :-)

I eventually got the message...
It was worth it ..

YS Måns Mårtensson

On 2 Apr., 00:49, mck mckel...@gmail.com wrote:
 I believe I found the relevant link:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_Fools%27_Day

 Cheers!

 Mark

 On Apr 1, 2:51 pm, Måns humam...@gmail.com wrote:

  Is it just Morris and I who cannot find a link to tiddlyFlash
  anywhere??
  Would someone please point in some direction - I can't wait to see
  what it is capable of..

  YS Måns Mårtensson

  On 1 Apr., 17:54, Mark S. throa...@yahoo.com wrote:

   Any chance of incorporating Oracle 9i or higher into the framework? TW
   is lacking a true database engine. This action alone would create an
   adaptive zero administration process within the context of a bi-
   directional  application, harnessing paradigm-shifting energies into a
   nexus of a semi-open-source scalable knowledge base.

   Deployed on a server, the licensing costs probably wouldn't exceed
   50,000. Since its now SEO compatible, this cost could be recouped by
   selling advertising terms inside the TiddlyFalse environment.

   -- Mark
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