[tw] Re: TW interactions with php echo.

2011-12-07 Thread skye riquelme
Hi Eric

Hope you have time to have a quick look at why my copy does not work.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5652992/emptyTestExternalTiddlers/empty.html

Thanks in Advance
Skye

On 6 dez, 10:06, skye riquelme riquelme.s...@gmail.com wrote:
 HI Again, Eric

 Seems strange it doesnot work for me, but does for you. I have put the
 empty file I tested here 
 -http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5652992/emptyTestExternalTiddlers/empty.html
 - maybe you can download it and see if it works for you. did I do
 something wrong...or is it to do with our computer configurations

 Thanks in Advance
 Skye

 On 5 dez, 02:00, Eric Shulman elsdes...@gmail.com wrote:



   OK tried your suggestion about double brackets -  and nothing
   happened no error message and no HelloThere message either.!

  hmmm... that should have worked.  It does for me.

   AND, as I am understanding your explanation...if I create a text
   output and its starts with div id=storeArea...and then uses the
   same format as a true tiddler ... div title='       '
   creator='      .../pre/ div  ...then the
   plugin will read ii in a create a new tiddler That would be
   fantastic

  You can define a storeArea *anywhere* in your output and the plugin
  will detect it.  You can use the #tiddlername param in the URL to
  extract a specific tiddler.

  However, this doesn't automatically create a new tiddler.  To create a
  tiddler from the remote content, you need to use the enhanced 'missing
  tiddler fallback' syntax provided by the plugin, like this:

  tiddler [[TiddlerName|http://...]]

  If TiddlerName exists in the document, then it is transcluded
  normally.  If the tiddler is missing, then the remote URL (following
  the | separator) is used to retrieve content and then automatically
  create a new tiddler named TiddlerName (controlled by the
  chkExternalTiddlersImport option)

  enjoy,
  -e
  Eric Shulman
  TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios

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[tw] Re: TW interactions with php echo.

2011-12-06 Thread skye riquelme
HI Again, Eric

Seems strange it doesnot work for me, but does for you. I have put the
empty file I tested here - 
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5652992/emptyTestExternalTiddlers/empty.html
- maybe you can download it and see if it works for you. did I do
something wrong...or is it to do with our computer configurations

Thanks in Advance
Skye

On 5 dez, 02:00, Eric Shulman elsdes...@gmail.com wrote:
  OK tried your suggestion about double brackets -  and nothing
  happened no error message and no HelloThere message either.!

 hmmm... that should have worked.  It does for me.

  AND, as I am understanding your explanation...if I create a text
  output and its starts with div id=storeArea...and then uses the
  same format as a true tiddler ... div title='       '
  creator='      .../pre/ div  ...then the
  plugin will read ii in a create a new tiddler That would be
  fantastic

 You can define a storeArea *anywhere* in your output and the plugin
 will detect it.  You can use the #tiddlername param in the URL to
 extract a specific tiddler.

 However, this doesn't automatically create a new tiddler.  To create a
 tiddler from the remote content, you need to use the enhanced 'missing
 tiddler fallback' syntax provided by the plugin, like this:

 tiddler [[TiddlerName|http://...]]

 If TiddlerName exists in the document, then it is transcluded
 normally.  If the tiddler is missing, then the remote URL (following
 the | separator) is used to retrieve content and then automatically
 create a new tiddler named TiddlerName (controlled by the
 chkExternalTiddlersImport option)

 enjoy,
 -e
 Eric Shulman
 TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios

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[tw] Re: TW interactions with php echo.

2011-12-04 Thread skye riquelme
Hi Again suggestion.

In trying to access Jeremys message as you suggested (from a blanck TW
- with External Tiddlers TemporaryTiddlers and SectionLinks only
installed)... I got a macro error...saying that names is
undefinied (in FF) and Cannot convert names to object in Opera.

This also raises a question. to have ExternalTiddlersPlugin read
in information from a php file that is producing output with
echowould I have to format that output as a tiddler..div
title title='   ' creator='  .../pre/
div  ?

Thanks
skye


On 3 dez, 21:53, Eric Shulman elsdes...@gmail.com wrote:
  My main application is using a local TW and uploading data server-
  side, so I have a major conflict on domain nameyour plugin
  explains that acessing a file server-side from a local file...wont
  work.

 Since you are planning to run a local TW, you should be ok.

 The cross-domain restrictions only apply if the TW document is hosted
 online.  If the document is being run locally (i.e., file://...),
 then remote access to URLs *does* work (at least, it does for me).

 Try this:

 * Install ExternalTiddlersPlugin in a *local* empty.html file.
 * Create a new tiddler containing:
    tiddlerhttp://www.TiddlyWiki.com/#HelloThere

 When the macro is rendered, you *should* see the remotely-accessed
 text from Jeremy's [[HelloThere]] tiddler.  Let me know if that works.

 enjoy,
 -e

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[tw] Re: TW interactions with php echo.

2011-12-04 Thread Eric Shulman
 In trying to access Jeremys message as you suggested (from a blanck TW
 - with External Tiddlers TemporaryTiddlers and SectionLinks only
 installed)... I got a macro error...saying that names is
 undefinied (in FF) and Cannot convert names to object in Opera.

Minor syntax issue with macro usage.  Since the parameter starts with
http:, the TWCore macro processor sees this as a name:value pair,
rather than a URL.  To be properly recognized, add doubled square
brackets around the parameter to quote it, like this:

   tiddler [[http://www.TiddlyWiki.com/#HelloThere]]

 This also raises a question. to have ExternalTiddlersPlugin read
 in information from a php file that is producing output with
 echowould I have to format that output as a tiddler..div
 title title='       ' creator='      .../pre/
 div  ?

Nope.  ExternalTiddlersPlugin will read in *any* externally-provided
content as plain text.  However, *IF* there is a storeArea within
that content, then it can also parse and extract an individual tiddler
definition from that content.


enjoy,
-e
Eric Shulman
TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios


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[tw] Re: TW interactions with php echo.

2011-12-04 Thread skye riquelme
Hi Again Eric

OK tried your suggestion about double brackets -  and nothing
happened no error message and no HelloThere message either.!

AND, as I am understanding your explanation...if I create a text
output and its starts with div id=storeArea...and then uses the
same format as a true tiddler ... div title='   '
creator='  .../pre/ div  ...then the
plugin will read ii in a create a new tiddler That would be
fantastic

Thanks Again
Skye

On 4 dez, 16:04, Eric Shulman elsdes...@gmail.com wrote:
  In trying to access Jeremys message as you suggested (from a blanck TW
  - with External Tiddlers TemporaryTiddlers and SectionLinks only
  installed)... I got a macro error...saying that names is
  undefinied (in FF) and Cannot convert names to object in Opera.

 Minor syntax issue with macro usage.  Since the parameter starts with
 http:, the TWCore macro processor sees this as a name:value pair,
 rather than a URL.  To be properly recognized, add doubled square
 brackets around the parameter to quote it, like this:

    tiddler [[http://www.TiddlyWiki.com/#HelloThere]]

  This also raises a question. to have ExternalTiddlersPlugin read
  in information from a php file that is producing output with
  echowould I have to format that output as a tiddler..div
  title title='       ' creator='      .../pre/
  div  ?

 Nope.  ExternalTiddlersPlugin will read in *any* externally-provided
 content as plain text.  However, *IF* there is a storeArea within
 that content, then it can also parse and extract an individual tiddler
 definition from that content.

 enjoy,
 -e
 Eric Shulman
 TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios

 
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[tw] Re: TW interactions with php echo.

2011-12-04 Thread Eric Shulman
 OK tried your suggestion about double brackets -  and nothing
 happened no error message and no HelloThere message either.!

hmmm... that should have worked.  It does for me.

 AND, as I am understanding your explanation...if I create a text
 output and its starts with div id=storeArea...and then uses the
 same format as a true tiddler ... div title='       '
 creator='      .../pre/ div  ...then the
 plugin will read ii in a create a new tiddler That would be
 fantastic

You can define a storeArea *anywhere* in your output and the plugin
will detect it.  You can use the #tiddlername param in the URL to
extract a specific tiddler.

However, this doesn't automatically create a new tiddler.  To create a
tiddler from the remote content, you need to use the enhanced 'missing
tiddler fallback' syntax provided by the plugin, like this:

tiddler [[TiddlerName|http://...]]

If TiddlerName exists in the document, then it is transcluded
normally.  If the tiddler is missing, then the remote URL (following
the | separator) is used to retrieve content and then automatically
create a new tiddler named TiddlerName (controlled by the
chkExternalTiddlersImport option)

enjoy,
-e
Eric Shulman
TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios

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[tw] Re: TW interactions with php echo.

2011-12-03 Thread skye riquelme
Thanks Eric

My main application is using a local TW and uploading data server-
side, so I have a major conflict on domain nameyour plugin
explains that acessing a file server-side from a local file...wont
work.

Any other possibilities?

Thanks
Skye

On 3 dez, 00:43, Eric Shulman elsdes...@gmail.com wrote:
  its possible to say query a MySQL database and have the php file
  return a value using the print or echo functions.. with that
  result showing up as text in the target iframe responseframe.

  However I want to use that feedback and process it inside TW. Thats
  the question.
  While the html /php functioning is well documented elsewhere... this
  interaction within TW is...well only you guys can answer that part of
  the question??? I hope.

 In order to render the output using the TWCore wikify() processing,
 you can't use an iframe, because that iframe is a completely separate
 document environment, isolated from the TW run-time.

 Fortunately, this plugin may offer a possible solution:
    http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#ExternalTiddlersPlugin
    http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#ExternalTiddlersPluginInfo

 enjoy,
 -e

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[tw] Re: TW interactions with php echo.

2011-12-03 Thread Eric Shulman
 My main application is using a local TW and uploading data server-
 side, so I have a major conflict on domain nameyour plugin
 explains that acessing a file server-side from a local file...wont
 work.

Since you are planning to run a local TW, you should be ok.

The cross-domain restrictions only apply if the TW document is hosted
online.  If the document is being run locally (i.e., file://...),
then remote access to URLs *does* work (at least, it does for me).

Try this:

* Install ExternalTiddlersPlugin in a *local* empty.html file.
* Create a new tiddler containing:
   tiddler http://www.TiddlyWiki.com/#HelloThere

When the macro is rendered, you *should* see the remotely-accessed
text from Jeremy's [[HelloThere]] tiddler.  Let me know if that works.

enjoy,
-e





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[tw] Re: TW interactions with php echo.

2011-12-02 Thread Eric Shulman
 its possible to say query a MySQL database and have the php file
 return a value using the print or echo functions.. with that
 result showing up as text in the target iframe responseframe.

 However I want to use that feedback and process it inside TW. Thats
 the question.

 While the html /php functioning is well documented elsewhere... this
 interaction within TW is...well only you guys can answer that part of
 the question??? I hope.

In order to render the output using the TWCore wikify() processing,
you can't use an iframe, because that iframe is a completely separate
document environment, isolated from the TW run-time.

Fortunately, this plugin may offer a possible solution:
   http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#ExternalTiddlersPlugin
   http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#ExternalTiddlersPluginInfo

enjoy,
-e

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